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Tigersmith
2011-07-19, 03:06 PM
Update: http://wiki.planetside-universe.com/ps/PlanetSide_2#System_Specifications

What do you guys think the system requirements for this game will be.
I have alot of friends with mid range systems. That can play WoW, Rift, Cyrsis 2 reasonably well.

I will be picking up a new comp sometime in the near future when I hear the official system specs. going all out for this game. very excited.

But what type of systems do you think the game will run on?

Volw
2011-07-19, 03:09 PM
They said they are aiming to make it run on a 4(5?) year old PCs in the interview.

I'm quite sure Crisis 2 grade PC is going to be more than enough.

Sentrosi
2011-07-19, 03:22 PM
Yeah, a lot of speculation right now. Especially over my PhysX question posted a couple of days ago. Right now I'm running a dual core e8400 w/ 4Gb of memory and a Radeon 6850. But will probably do a massive upgrade and roll into a hexa-core with 6-8Gb of memory and 2 nVidia cards SLI'd. Could be overkill, could be just right. But I want to do Planetside 2 justice when playing it. You don't buy a Ferarri to just have it sit in your driveway.

krnasaur
2011-07-19, 03:46 PM
As soon as I settle down in 1 spot i'll get a kickass PC. Until then I'm stuck on my laptop.

Vancha
2011-07-19, 04:26 PM
It depends whether they meant 5 years old from when they made the statement or 5 years old at the time of release. Either way, everything's just speculation until people can test their rigs in beta.

MgFalcon
2011-07-19, 04:27 PM
The soul of your first-born.

And 2Gig of Ram

Bags
2011-07-19, 04:35 PM
They said 4 - 5 years old, Smedley said 3 years.

My computer which was just behind the curve 4 years ago:

C2Duo @ 2.66 Ghz
2 GB 800 MHz Corsair Dominator Ram
8800 GT 512 mb

Probably something like that.

I have a GTX 460 right now and I'm waiting to find out what the specs are before I upgrade my CPU/RAM/MOBO.

Infektion
2011-07-19, 04:40 PM
I say
Recommended:

Dual core 3.0Ghz or better
GTX 260 or equivalent
4GB Ram
DVD-Rom
56k dialup or better (had to throw that in)

Sirisian
2011-07-19, 05:25 PM
I'd imagine DX10/11 honestly. With their feature set, from a programming perspective, I'm picturing bottlenecks in DX9 leading me to believe they'll not support or drop DX9 support quickly in order to make certain feature untoggleable.

Medium range DX10 card probably will be the minimum with a quad-core CPU and 4 GB of RAM with Windows 7.

What they'll tell people though on the package? DX9 with a dual core XP and 2 GB of RAM. It'll run horribly on low quality in battles and die when the fights get large.

Bags
2011-07-19, 05:56 PM
I'd imagine DX10/11 honestly. With their feature set, from a programming perspective, I'm picturing bottlenecks in DX9 leading me to believe they'll not support or drop DX9 support quickly in order to make certain feature untoggleable.

Medium range DX10 card probably will be the minimum with a quad-core CPU and 4 GB of RAM with Windows 7.

What they'll tell people though on the package? DX9 with a dual core XP and 2 GB of RAM. It'll run horribly on low quality in battles and die when the fights get large.

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume when they mean "run on 4 - 5 year old gaming machines" they mean ~30 fps with everything turned to shit.

Infektion
2011-07-19, 06:24 PM
highly doubt a base quad will be needed for DX11, that's just ridiculous! 3.0+ Ghz Dualcore man, that's going to the the recommended... because if this game is optimized for dual core... MAYBE a tri-core, then my 4.0Ghz or 3.5Ghz Dualcore E8400 will be better than a 2.6 Quad logically using only 3 cores. Honestly How many games are truly even taking advantage of 3 or more cores? that being said, I highly doubt Planetside will be have that much CPU demand. I'm seeing more of a GPU demand with a relatively moderate CPU model and/or clocked chip. Think about it, a 4 year old system had Pentium D's and EARLY C2D for Intel and AMD had Athlon x2's like the 4600+-5500+. I remember buying an AMD Athlon x2 5000BE(2.6Ghz) chip in 2006. My brother is using that chip overclocked to 3Ghz and running strong after 5 years! That's what I used to play Planetside on, with an AGP HD3850 512MB getting 60-90 Frames per second. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: good times good times :lol:

Bags
2011-07-19, 06:25 PM
I hope my GTX 460 will be good enough :x

Infektion
2011-07-19, 06:34 PM
I hope my GTX 460 will be good enough :x

I'm sure it will, I'm actually thinking of buying a GTX 460 1GB... I was jsut about to get the galaxy super OC one for 160... and they sold out! I was fucking pissed. Which do you recommend? I'm stepping off the ATI(not AMD) train and this is going to be my first geforce since geforce MX440 from when I use to play tribes 2.
my cardline is as shows:
9600PRO(flashed to XT) 256MB -> X850PRO(pencil vmod and flashed to XT) 256MB -> HD1950 -> HD3850 512MB /END AGP
HD4850 512MB PCI-e. Now i'm looking at the Nvidia GTX460 (by the way, nvidia sounds like spanish for envious, food for thought)

Bags
2011-07-19, 06:40 PM
I'm sure it will, I'm actually thinking of buying a GTX 460 1GB... I was jsut about to get the galaxy super OC one for 160... and they sold out! I was fucking pissed. Which do you recommend? I'm stepping off the ATI(not AMD) train and this is going to be my first geforce since geforce MX440 from when I use to play tribes 2.
my cardline is as shows:
9600PRO(flashed to XT) 256MB -> X850PRO(pencil vmod and flashed to XT) 256MB -> HD1950 -> HD3850 512MB /END AGP
HD4850 512MB PCI-e. Now i'm looking at the Nvidia GTX460 (by the way, nvidia sounds like spanish for envious, food for thought)

I got this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-127-534&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=&VideoOnlyMark=&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=#scrollFullInfo

But it's out of stock, the only other MSI 460 they have is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127518

Which is slower and more expensive (mine comes in at $130 after MIR, this one is $150 after MIR) though I'm sure you can OC it up to the speeds on the one I got as they have the same cooling.

I've had it for a week and in my most graphic intensive game, Crysis, it doesn't go over 55 C under full load. Fans only get up to about 60%, and are just BARELY audible when there's no game noise. Idles at 40% fans 35 C. Great card, great value.

Oh, and I guess I should add that it gets good fps too :p. 30 - 40 everything on high in Crysis 1 with my old computer ([email protected], 2gb ram)

Hamma
2011-07-19, 08:40 PM
It's pretty speculative at the moment but if you have a pretty good computer you are playing modern games on now you should be more than fine.

I intend to build a couple badass computers for Jen and I in the next several months. I want to smash mine every time I use it :lol:

BorisBlade
2011-07-19, 08:56 PM
I intend to build a couple badass computers for Jen and I in the next several months. I want to smash mine every time I use it :lol:

I used to say that alot Hamma...til finally one day it started losing some very important data and lockin up on startup, and just went downhill from there for a good week. After 6 years of reliable pc gaming, it was time to put it out to pasture. I ordered the new one, then took the old one outside and proceeded to smash it into tiny bits. It felt like a scene outta Office Space. Good times indeed! :D

Hamma
2011-07-19, 10:22 PM
haha awesome :lol:

LordReaver
2011-07-20, 03:18 AM
I used to say that alot Hamma...til finally one day it started losing some very important data and lockin up on startup, and just went downhill from there for a good week. After 6 years of reliable pc gaming, it was time to put it out to pasture. I ordered the new one, then took the old one outside and proceeded to smash it into tiny bits. It felt like a scene outta Office Space. Good times indeed! :D

Hmm, I spend too much time repairing computers. I can't get past the part where you wasted a bunch of good components.

SKYeXile
2011-07-20, 08:41 AM
Can I runs PS2 ON I7, 6G RAM AND 5970, I KNOW NOTHING About computers but i spent $4000.00 on pc, is ok RIGHT?

Sirisian
2011-07-20, 09:00 AM
Can I runs PS2 ON I7, 6G RAM AND 5970, I KNOW NOTHING About computers but i spent $4000.00 on pc, is ok RIGHT?
You summed up how I usually tell people to build computers. Go big or go home. Hate watching friends who pick up a mid-range computer every upgrade and never experience games how they were meant to be played.

Sadly we're going to see a few people do that. I saw someone pick up a single 460 the other day just because it was cheap. :'(

Bags
2011-07-20, 12:58 PM
You summed up how I usually tell people to build computers. Go big or go home. Hate watching friends who pick up a mid-range computer every upgrade and never experience games how they were meant to be played.

Sadly we're going to see a few people do that. I saw someone pick up a single 460 the other day just because it was cheap. :'(

Yup. I picked up a GTX 460 last week because it was only $130. And now I have a $40 MIR to spend on other upgrades. Deal with it.

Infektion
2011-07-20, 01:29 PM
You summed up how I usually tell people to build computers. Go big or go home. Hate watching friends who pick up a mid-range computer every upgrade and never experience games how they were meant to be played.

Sadly we're going to see a few people do that. I saw someone pick up a single 460 the other day just because it was cheap. :'(

This has to be a satire, because the sheer ignorance and self absorbed undertone is too thick to even look past. That, or this guy is a complete douche bag in real life and doesn't have real friends, just people he gets along with for the mean time. I'm picking up a GTX 460 as well, you wanna talk shit about that?

I got this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-127-534&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=&VideoOnlyMark=&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=#scrollFullInfo

But it's out of stock, the only other MSI 460 they have is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127518

Which is slower and more expensive (mine comes in at $130 after MIR, this one is $150 after MIR) though I'm sure you can OC it up to the speeds on the one I got as they have the same cooling.

I've had it for a week and in my most graphic intensive game, Crysis, it doesn't go over 55 C under full load. Fans only get up to about 60%, and are just BARELY audible when there's no game noise. Idles at 40% fans 35 C. Great card, great value.

Oh, and I guess I should add that it gets good fps too :p. 30 - 40 everything on high in Crysis 1 with my old computer ([email protected], 2gb ram)

c2d's are no joke, specially when overclocked. But if your computer can run Crysis (on high) and be ok, then I doubt you'll have much problems, IF ANY, with planetside 2. It is a MMO after all, and playability is number 1 aspect. I'm going to buy the ASUS ENGTX460 (not top) because it's like 130-140 after rebate, and I read that the asus are OC champs.

Chaff
2011-07-20, 03:03 PM
When I emailed SOE Tech Support in June about getting some info on componet specs to help optimize PS2 play, I got the following response:



Greetings,

Thank you for contacting in game support. While we don't know what the spec's well be, its a pretty safe bet that the pc you are building will be able to run the game fairly easy. I'd hold off on more member or a different 3d card until Planetside next gets closer to launch.

If there are any other issues that we may assist with, please don't hesitate to contact us again!

Best of luck to you,
Senior GM Vedan Oogly

Infektion
2011-07-20, 03:14 PM
When I emailed SOE Tech Support in June about getting some info on componet specs to help optimize PS2 play, I got the following response:



Greetings,

Thank you for contacting in game support. While we don't know what the spec's well be, its a pretty safe bet that the pc you are building will be able to run the game fairly easy. I'd hold off on more member or a different 3d card until Planetside next gets closer to launch.

If there are any other issues that we may assist with, please don't hesitate to contact us again!

Best of luck to you,
Senior GM Vedan Oogly

So what video card was he referring too, if any? We got his message, now we must put 2 and 2 together :)

Chaff
2011-07-20, 03:21 PM
Memory: 12GB (2GB X 6) DDR3/1600MHz
CPU: Intel Core i7-990 Extreme Edition 3.46 GHz
MB: GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Chipset
VIdeo: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe


This was the core stuff I refenced to them in my initial inquiry.

This was the direction I was leaning to in June, but I'm waffling....and open to input from those (here)more on-the-ball than I.

Chaff
2011-07-20, 03:30 PM
I tend to think in the first few months I'm on this game that I may very well happily spend hours & hours each week just wandering around & exploring the new maps/territory/environment.

I would like a system to personally affix permanent Personal Waypoints - that I could toggle on/off.

That way, I could save my favorite AMS spots, sniper locations, short cuts past rough terrain (jet pack friendly ?)......

Bags
2011-07-20, 03:42 PM
Was there really any doubt that rig wouldn't destroy Planetside 2? :p

Chaff
2011-07-20, 03:56 PM
I think so, but I'm not a tech-head.

I talked myself into 2 of the NVIDIA 590's....cuz they're 3 GB/ea...and my BB tells me MORE is always better. Also, the 990 OC's well.....if COOLING is aggressively addressed. I could safely run it in the 4.2 range. They make liquid cooling for cards now. I was affraid to fry my stuff before.

Cyber PC built my last gamer. I like them, but you have to stay on them during and post-build. They have some sweet liquid cooling options.


If I went with 2 of the 6970's (2GB/ea) it would save me roughly $800 off my rig.

Hell, I'm talking (delusional babbling ?) about a $5,000+ rig and I'm average (at best) at PS. I appreciate and value quality.

I know when I die in PS that I suck.

With an optimized machine I'd know my PC gave me every chance it could to win - but, on the other hand - I'd have less validity to deny how lame I am when I keep geting pwned.

whatever

I could enjoy the "pretty" and enhanced graphics - dead, or alive.

The longer they delay in PS2's launch, the more I'll have saved.

CrystalViolet
2011-07-20, 04:05 PM
I say
Recommended:

Dual core 3.0Ghz or better
GTX 260 or equivalent
4GB Ram
DVD-Rom
56k dialup or better (had to throw that in)

This is about where I'm at assuming I spend $50 to upgrade my AMD 4200+ to a 6400+. I built my PC in late 2005, but it was a pretty high end machine for the time. The GTX260 core 216 (glad I went green) was added a couple of years later. Really hope this setup works.

Bags
2011-07-20, 04:08 PM
I think so, but I'm not a tech-head.

I talked myself into 2 of the NVIDIA 590's....cuz they're 3 GB/ea...and my BB tells me MORE is always better. Also, the 990 OC's well.....if COOLING is aggressively addressed. I could safely run it in the 4.2 range. They make liquid cooling for cards now. I was affraid to fry my stuff before.

Cyber PC built my last gamer. I like them, but you have to stay on them during and post-build. They have some sweet liquid cooling options.


If I went with 2 of the 6970's (2GB/ea) it would save me roughly $800 off my rig.

Hell, I'm talking (delusional babbling ?) about a $5,000+ rig and I'm average (at best) at PS. I appreciate and value quality.

I know when I die in PS that I suck.

With an optimized machine I'd know my PC gave me every chance it could to win - but, on the other hand - I'd have less validity to deny how lame I am when I keep geting pwned.

whatever

I could enjoy the "pretty" and enhanced graphics - dead, or alive.

The longer they delay in PS2's launch, the more I'll have saved.

Something tells me 3GB of VRAM is unnecessary unless you have some outrageous resolution. But if you can afford it... meh why not? :p

Whenever the specs are announced I'll be upgrading my E7300 and 2gb of DDR 2 800 mhz ram to something much more modern.

I don't plan on being able to max it with good fps, but as long as I can get a steady 60 fps with the game not looking like complete shit I'll be content.

Chaff
2011-07-20, 04:45 PM
I do want to run HIGH resolutiuon

Also, I won't have to upgrade for a while.
The processor is my primary focus. I'm hoping for something faster that the 990 yet also OC's safely & reliably.

Primarily, it's a semi-delusional wish list. PS can do that that to a person. I don't splurge on much, but a PS dedicated machine is an exception. I'd rather have MORE than I need than be under-powered.

I've got $2,500 set aside already - I would be just fine at that price point if I chose not to save/spend more.

Bags
2011-07-20, 04:49 PM
Primarily, it's a semi-delusional wish list. PS can that that to a person. I don't splurge on much, but a PS dedicated machine is an exception. I'd rather have MORE than I need than be under-powered.

Yup, unfortunately I'm in college with no job so I get to upgrade a tiny bit every couple of years.

Infektion
2011-07-20, 10:59 PM
Yup, unfortunately I'm in college with no job so I get to upgrade a tiny bit every couple of years.

lol! Good times eh? I'm IT tech paying for my 2/2 apartment and living with my fiancée and 8mo daughter... And let me tell you, Miami is one expensive city to live. I was in NY a month ago and C.O.L. Is around the same :-(. I just don't have the expenses to go all out like I use to, atleast not yet :-).

BronzeElemental
2011-07-20, 11:02 PM
With such low required specs a playstation 3 would blow it out of the water. No reason NOT to port to console IMO.

Infektion
2011-07-20, 11:03 PM
With such low required specs a playstation 3 would blow it out of the water. No reason NOT to port to console IMO.

You're an idiot without a doubt.

Hamma
2011-07-20, 11:05 PM
Bronze you are on notice.

Back on topic please ignore his post.

Goku
2011-07-20, 11:08 PM
Memory: 12GB (2GB X 6) DDR3/1600MHz
CPU: Intel Core i7-990 Extreme Edition 3.46 GHz
MB: GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Chipset
VIdeo: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe


This was the core stuff I refenced to them in my initial inquiry.

This was the direction I was leaning to in June, but I'm waffling....and open to input from those (here)more on-the-ball than I.

Why oh why get a 990X and only spend $300 on a 570 :confused:

Bags
2011-07-20, 11:18 PM
Why oh why get a 990X and only spend $300 on a 570 :confused:

I thought he said somewhere that he had two and was considering a third.

Sirisian
2011-07-20, 11:44 PM
You summed up how I usually tell people to build computers. Go big or go home. Hate watching friends who pick up a mid-range computer every upgrade and never experience games how they were meant to be played.

Sadly we're going to see a few people do that. I saw someone pick up a single 460 the other day just because it was cheap. :'(
This has to be a satire, because the sheer ignorance and self absorbed undertone is too thick to even look past. That, or this guy is a complete douche bag in real life and doesn't have real friends, just people he gets along with for the mean time. I'm picking up a GTX 460 as well, you wanna talk shit about that?

Part satire. However, you missed my key point. On a technical side I was pointing out a serious flaw in logic. The reason the 460 GTX is recommended is because people assume you'll buy 2 and run them in SLI which is far cheaper than running a single 580 GTX.

Also as a friendly reminder, don't resort to personal attacks on these forum. I was at Cedar Point today with friends. Just got back at 11 PM to read forums.

I'd imagine the 460 would be perfect for running the game though. I've been more worried about people thinking they can use a DX9 card with the features we've heard already.

Bags
2011-07-20, 11:47 PM
Part satire. However, you missed my key point. On a technical side I was pointing out a serious flaw in logic. The reason the 460 GTX is recommended is because people assume you'll buy 2 and run them in SLI which is far cheaper than running a single 580 GTX.

Also as a friendly reminder, don't resort to personal attacks on these forum. I was at Cedar Point today with friends. Just got back at 11 PM to read forums.

I'd imagine the 460 would be perfect for running the game though. I've been more worried about people thinking they can use a DX9 card with the features we've heard already.

Maverick up in this bitch?

And I don't see why anyone would recommend a card thinking it will be SLI'd when someone states they are on a budget. :/

SKYeXile
2011-07-20, 11:48 PM
Yea, i would avoid SLI or crossfire...personally. get the duel GPU single card, no issues then. Id probably also not get an Nvidia card, but thats just me.

Sirisian
2011-07-20, 11:55 PM
And I don't see why anyone would recommend a card thinking it will be SLI'd when someone states they are on a budget. :/
Well I based it off a friend that went the SLI route. He kept linking me to benchmarks in favor of SLI (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/02/geforce_gtx_580_vs_460_1gb_sli/2). It's a really nice budget setup actually to use the 460 in SLI.

Maverick up in this bitch?

(Okay only post off topic I'll make. I went in 2007 when they were building it, so I rode it the first time today. The tunnel launch was amazing. I've never seen it in a roller coaster). :love: It was 99 F in Sandusky though. I think it scared people away so we only had 1 hour 15 minute waits basically on all the coasters (Even millenium force. Then again to be fair we were there when it opened). Fun fact a prius can take you from Kalamazoo Michigan to Sandusky Ohio and back with a single tank).

Bags
2011-07-21, 12:13 AM
Meh, my lone 460 will have to be enough because I doubt my 500w PSU can do SLI. And SLI ain't too budgety if I have to buy a new PSU. Though my next round of upgrades will probably include a PSU.

I love staying at a hotel in the park whenever I go, as you get in very early the next morning. Maverick = thrice in 30 minutes, Millennium = quatroice(?) in 30 minutes.

Infektion
2011-07-21, 12:04 PM
Meh, my lone 460 will have to be enough because I doubt my 500w PSU can do SLI. And SLI ain't too budgety if I have to buy a new PSU. Though my next round of upgrades will probably include a PSU.

I love staying at a hotel in the park whenever I go, as you get in very early the next morning. Maverick = thrice in 30 minutes, Millennium = quatroice(?) in 30 minutes.

Bags, you and I are kinda on the same PC boat.
I'm running my 80% 630w, watercooled E8400 @ 4.0Ghz, 4GB ram, 2x velociraptors Raid0 in adaptec hardware raidcard 256MB ram w/ battery (those 3 things are worth more than my whole computer, lol) and HD4850 512MB. the only plausible upgrade routes are... A) buy an i5 2500k + P series mobo + ram and keep my card (even though it's old tech) or B) buy a GTX 460 1GB, run the system for it's necessity and upgrade in the next year. So for right now instead of dishing out the 400, i'll pay 160 for what I need and when it comes time to upgrade (ivy bridge will be out by then) i'll cop that and get a much better performance boost having already the GTX 460 1GB. Makes perfect sense right?

Goku
2011-07-21, 12:09 PM
I'd imagine the 460 would be perfect for running the game though. I've been more worried about people thinking they can use a DX9 card with the features we've heard already.

For the most part I believe most gamers have moved past any DX9 gen card. There is likely many XP users that have DX10/DX11 cards on XP, but are limited to DX9 since XP has no support for that. My 7900 had trouble running the original PS with full detail on 1280x1024 (SLI helped me bump it up). Those users on even x1900/7900 will likely have trouble running this game even on low I bet.

Bruttal
2011-07-21, 12:29 PM
I have a GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) its dx11 on vista am getting 100fps with every freakin thing on in ps1 vertsync and tripple buffer

Edit rez is 1680 x 1050

Bags
2011-07-21, 12:55 PM
Yeah, I got E7300 @ stock, 2 GB DDR 2 800 mhz and a GTX 460.

With everything on minimum and the lowest resolution I barely get 60 fps in an empty sanctuary.

Planetside, how the fuck does it work?

duomaxwl
2011-07-21, 01:04 PM
Planetside is retarded. I just got a 560 ti and while it doesn't dip as low as my old 9600gt did the max fps is like 100 lower.

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk

Bags
2011-07-21, 01:06 PM
Yeah, it's hilarious because I can play something like Crysis on high @ 1900x1080 and get ~40 fps.

duomaxwl
2011-07-21, 01:10 PM
Yeah. I know it's not my processor because that's running at 3.7. It's pretty frustrating putting out that kind of money and not seeing a huge increase in the main game you play.

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk

Chaff
2011-07-21, 05:12 PM
Why oh why get a 990X and only spend $300 on a 570 :confused:


Good question. I already stated I'm no tech -head.....so I'm here reading....and reading & listening.
I tend to go for overkill. I did it when I was a gigging musician - I bought the best - and I was always glad I did. I see my gaming machine with a similar mindset (Spinal Tap....."IT GOES TO ELEVEN !")

I want more than FPS, I want the lush environment at high resolution. I DO NOT know the best configuration to do this in PS2. I'm trying to attain this information by any means I can.

As the launch of PS2 gets closer I'll be looking for more information/advice from you (more knowledgeable) cats here.

BronzeElemental
2011-07-21, 05:40 PM
The first thing to consider is your budget. In all honesty if you don't know that much about building your own computer there are services online (cyberpower, pcspecialist etc.) that you select a base model and then bling upto your budget based on what needs you have. I'd recommend that route.

Although you will get slightly less for your money the benefits are that you can't really go wrong, you can often call and talk to someone over the phone AND you can usually get a 1 to 3 year warrenty on it. For a small fee they usually offer to overclock your system for you too.

Just my advice.

Tigersmith
2011-07-21, 05:42 PM
The first thing to consider is your budget. In all honesty if you don't know that much about building your own computer there are services online (cyberpower, pcspecialist etc.) that you select a base model and then bling upto your budget based on what needs you have. I'd recommend that route.

Although you will get slightly less for your money the benefits are that you can't really go wrong, you can often call and talk to someone over the phone AND you can usually get a 1 to 3 year warrenty on it. For a small fee they usually offer to overclock your system for you too.

Just my advice.

Good Advice

Goku
2011-07-21, 05:45 PM
Yeah, I got E7300 @ stock, 2 GB DDR 2 800 mhz and a GTX 460.

With everything on minimum and the lowest resolution I barely get 60 fps in an empty sanctuary.

Planetside, how the fuck does it work?

Adding an extra stick of ram probably would help...

My Athlon II X2 @ 3.0GHz, 4GB DDR3, and 4770 can play max settings at 1680x1050 around 60 FPS depending on the fight. Your processor is comparable to mine and your GTX 460 out does my 4770 by at least 50%. Something is wrong there.

Raymac
2011-07-21, 05:57 PM
The first thing to consider is your budget. In all honesty if you don't know that much about building your own computer there are services online (cyberpower, pcspecialist etc.) that you select a base model and then bling upto your budget based on what needs you have. I'd recommend that route.

Although you will get slightly less for your money the benefits are that you can't really go wrong, you can often call and talk to someone over the phone AND you can usually get a 1 to 3 year warrenty on it. For a small fee they usually offer to overclock your system for you too.

Just my advice.

I'm not much of a tech-head either, but this ^ is great advice. (and I thought Bronze was just a troll the other day. I'm glad I was wrong) I did this with Alienware about 5 years ago and I'm glad I did. I've made a couple upgrades since then, but it was a great place for me to start.

Right now, my AMD Phenom II 925 @ 3.6Ghz with 4GB RAM and an Nvidia GTX260 runs Planetside to perfection. I have everything maxed out and I don't think I ever see my fps drop below 50, and in the Sanc it says 400+. I figure I'll likely want a new GPU for PS2, but I'm hoping my processor will hold up for awhile.

Chaff
2011-07-21, 06:08 PM
The first thing to consider is your budget. In all honesty if you don't know that much about building your own computer there are services online (cyberpower, pcspecialist etc.) that you select a base model and then bling upto your budget based on what needs you have. I'd recommend that route.

Although you will get slightly less for your money the benefits are that you can't really go wrong, you can often call and talk to someone over the phone AND you can usually get a 1 to 3 year warrenty on it. For a small fee they usually offer to overclock your system for you too.

Just my advice.


My son & I built a couple game machines ourselves using Frys & NewEgg. It was fun, but I view is as more hassle than it's worth.

I used Cyber PC for my last gamer, and was happy with it. They don't have the best finish / attention-to-detail ..... unless you stay on them. Do some research of your own first. EX; If YOU don't know about the case(s) they recommend/offer - your bad. They are prone to leave out essential drivers and/or disks you may need to reload from later.....be demanding from the start, work with one person, and keep (tactfully) the follow-up on him......they will build my PS2 rig.

CYBER PC has some nice liquid cooling options for CPU, RAM, VRAM, HD, ...... and, if you follow their recommended build components for Overclocking....they will cover the expensive (and liquid-cooled) components that make a top-notch system hum - and do so under the 3-year warrant. Not bad.

Coreldan
2011-07-21, 06:13 PM
For people from Europe who dont have to will/skills to build their own systems, I can very warmly recommend Novatech (http://www.novatech.co.uk/).

Bought a Revolution-pc from them like 4 months back and I've been extremely satisfied. They also gave me the best customer support I've ever gotten in my life.

Goku
2011-07-21, 06:19 PM
To all you guys who do not build their own rigs. Honestly it is not hard at all to do. You get to choice you own components (often higher quality) at a cheaper price. If you are technical or even played with legos when you were a kid you can do it no problem.

Raymac
2011-07-21, 06:31 PM
To all you guys who do not build their own rigs. Honestly it is not hard at all to do. You get to choice you own components (often higher quality) at a cheaper price. If you are technical or even played with legos when you were a kid you can do it no problem.

It's all about your confidence level though. Like the first time I ever upgraded my RAM, it felt like I was doing some intricate work for NASA on some rocket. But after doing it, swapping out some sticks of RAM takes nothing. Or when I just replaced my processor for the first time, I still had to call a buddy who I trust for tech stuff because I couldn't get the old fan off of the board and I was afraid of breaking something.

In hindsight, yeah, the stuff was easy....when everything goes right. Troubleshooting any sort of problems that come up can be a major hassle, and it's good to have a reliable warranty when that happens.

BronzeElemental
2011-07-21, 06:31 PM
(and I thought Bronze was just a troll the other day. I'm glad I was wrong)

I am greatly misunderstood.

Sentrosi
2011-07-21, 06:47 PM
For those who want to upgrade but do not know how to build their own PC, I will gladly offer up my services to you. I can work within your budget and deliver to you a quality rig that fits your budget. Peacemaker and any other Dragonwolf here can vouch for me. Send me a pm and we can work something out.

Bags
2011-07-21, 07:02 PM
To all you guys who do not build their own rigs. Honestly it is not hard at all to do. You get to choice you own components (often higher quality) at a cheaper price. If you are technical or even played with legos when you were a kid you can do it no problem.

Hah, yeah when I got my first gaming rig in 2007 I wanted to build it myself because I'd get more for less, but my dad was pretty much like, "buy it on a site and I'll pay the extra. No hassle".

I was like okie.

My son & I built a couple game machines ourselves using Frys & NewEgg. It was fun, but I view is as more hassle than it's worth.

I used Cyber PC for my last gamer, and was happy with it. They don't have the best finish / attention-to-detail ..... unless you stay on them. Do some research of your own first. EX; If YOU don't know about the case(s) they recommend/offer - your bad. They are prone to leave out essential drivers and/or disks you may need to reload from later.....be demanding from the start, work with one person, and keep (tactfully) the follow-up on him......they will build my PS2 rig.

CYBER PC has some nice liquid cooling options for CPU, RAM, VRAM, HD, ...... and, if you follow their recommended build components for Overclocking....they will cover the expensive (and liquid-cooled) components that make a top-notch system hum - and do so under the 3-year warrant. Not bad.

Yeah my brother got from CYBERPC, and I was a little hesitant to recommend them... but the only thing that was wrong when we got it was one cable came out of the mobo. Everything else was fine. It came on time, everything was correct, great wiring job, etc.

Hamma
2011-07-21, 09:58 PM
I've heard ibuypower (http://www.ibuypower.com/) makes a pretty sweet rig also.

Bags
2011-07-21, 10:16 PM
I've heard ibuypower (http://www.ibuypower.com/) makes a pretty sweet rig also.

Aren't they owned by the same company?

Hamma
2011-07-21, 11:30 PM
Beats me.

Goku
2011-07-22, 12:40 PM
If anyone is interested I made thread for the parts you would need for building a new computer at 3 price points here (http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?p=578545#post578545). I plan on updating later today with recommended monitors to go with builds too.

Infektion
2011-07-22, 02:24 PM
Yeah, I got E7300 @ stock, 2 GB DDR 2 800 mhz and a GTX 460.

With everything on minimum and the lowest resolution I barely get 60 fps in an empty sanctuary.

Planetside, how the fuck does it work?

yo bags... I don't know if you know this... but you're bottle necking your video card... it's down right obvious, you need to OC that proc and get 4GB ram ASAP. I'd recommend trying to get 3.5Ghz. Let me know your mobo model, i'll help you reach that.

Bags
2011-07-22, 02:50 PM
yo bags... I don't know if you know this... but you're bottle necking your video card... it's down right obvious, you need to OC that proc and get 4GB ram ASAP. I'd recommend trying to get 3.5Ghz. Let me know your mobo model, i'll help you reach that.

Oh I'm well aware. I'm just not going to be upgrading until I know the specs for Planetside 2.

I had to replace my 8800 because it was idling at 70 C with 100% fans, and the 460 GTX was only $130. I can run Crysis on high / highest @ 1900x1080, and get ~40 FPS even with the 4 year old components bottlenecking me, so I'm still convinced there's something wrong with Planetside.

Though when playing Planetside I use about 80% of my RAM so I think if anything I'd need faster ram and not necessarily 4 GB (but I'm sure I will get 4GB when I upgrade).

kcptech
2011-08-23, 02:22 PM
System Recommendations for Beta 1: (Not Finalized, more recommendations at the moment.)

+2.6 GHz Multicore Processor
2GB or more of Memory
nVidia Based 400 series or better to support ForgeLight’s nVidia PhysX Engine (To Test PhysX)
or any DX 9 or higher Vidcard with Shader 3.0
8GB HD Space
8X DVD-ROM
Broadband Internet
EAX 4.0 Audio with RAM
Operating System Support is currently Windows XP SP3 and up, as well as support for 32 and 64 Bit environments.
The game will be Multithreaded offering better performance for Processors with more cores.
The game will also support very large texture maps up to 1.5GB. Currently they are at a minimum of 256MB.

Game will function on non-nvidia cards but with PhsyX disabled.
Lower specs will run at reduced performance.

Sirisian
2011-08-23, 03:15 PM
or any DX 9 or higher Vidcard with Shader 4.0
DX9 is Pixel Shader 3. Allows for trivial character skinning and animation since >95% of gamers have it. DX10 introduced pixel shader 4.

Goku
2011-08-23, 05:00 PM
System Recommendations for Beta 1: (Not Finalized, more recommendations at the moment.)

+2.6 GHz Multicore Processor
2GB or more of Memory
nVidia Based 400 series or better to support ForgeLight’s nVidia PhysX Engine (To Test PhysX)
or any DX 9 or higher Vidcard with Shader 4.0
8GB HD Space
8X DVD-ROM
Broadband Internet
EAX 4.0 Audio with RAM
Operating System Support is currently Windows XP SP3 and up, as well as support for 32 and 64 Bit environments.
The game will be Multithreaded offering better performance for Processors with more cores.
The game will also support very large texture maps up to 1.5GB. Currently they are at a minimum of 256MB.

Game will function on non-nvidia cards but with PhsyX disabled.
Lower specs will run at reduced performance.

Where are you getting this from or are you just attempting to think what it maybe? Last I knew EAX was dead anyway.

Bruttal
2011-08-24, 05:37 AM
heres the setup am gonna be buying

Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with Five Fans, window side panel, top HDD dock

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-OC LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified


Intel Core i7-970 Gulftown 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7970

4 OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTX40G 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)(Raid 5 )

2 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-12GBRL

PLANAR SA2311W Black 23" 2ms HDMI Widescreen 3D Vision Ready LCD Monitor + NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit Bundle

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

MASSCOOL 8WA743 92mm Long Life CPU Cooler

do i think its over board YES do i think it will last me another 6 years Yep the geforce 570 supports 3way SLI the ram will help keep up with my serious issues of Multitasking (ive been known to have a Everquest window up at the same time am playing planetside)

Oh and the 4 SSD's thats just candy really kinda like the 3d vision monitor and glasses ;) total price on that rig before taxes shipping all that is 2905 rounded up so needless to say i wont be buying most of it till taxes come in next year lol.

Mutant
2011-08-24, 07:20 AM
System Recommendations for Beta 1: (Not Finalized, more recommendations at the moment.)

+2.6 GHz Multicore Processor
2GB or more of Memory
nVidia Based 400 series or better to support ForgeLight’s nVidia PhysX Engine (To Test PhysX)
or any DX 9 or higher Vidcard with Shader 4.0
8GB HD Space
8X DVD-ROM
Broadband Internet
EAX 4.0 Audio with RAM
Operating System Support is currently Windows XP SP3 and up, as well as support for 32 and 64 Bit environments.
The game will be Multithreaded offering better performance for Processors with more cores.
The game will also support very large texture maps up to 1.5GB. Currently they are at a minimum of 256MB.

Game will function on non-nvidia cards but with PhsyX disabled.
Lower specs will run at reduced performance.

Where are you getting this from or are you just attempting to think what it maybe? Last I knew EAX was dead anyway.


Smells like BS to me.

For a start the PhysX implementation PS2 is using will almost certainly be the PhysX SDK that runs on the CPU not GPU so ATI or Nvidia is irrelevant. (there are less than 30 games to date that use PhysX GPU acceleration)


SM 4 is DX10 on not DX9

And i do think that SM4 will be a requirement and so mean Vista or newer windows.

Goku
2011-08-24, 08:53 AM
build

So you do not have this yet? SB-E is coming out this winter and is replacing the 1366 Gulftown processors, so you are better off waiting till then for a build by then. That SSD setup is a BAD idea. Those SSDs from what I have seen are not reliable at all you are basically quadrupling your chances of having one fail. You are best off getting a newest gen SSD. Just go with a 128 GB Vertex 3 if you want the fatest or stretch it do 256GB for more performance.

Will you be doing anything to make use of a six core anyway? Otherwise you are wasting way too much of your budget on that. You could put that towards a GTX 580 or 570 SLI as far as I can tell you are not doing SLI yet. That 1200W PSU is total over kill as that is only really needed for tri or quad multi gpu config. There is a lot wrong with that build and you could get a lot more performance for spending $3K.

If I was spending 3K and wanted 3D Vision I would be doing this:

Intel 2500K/MSI P67 GD65 Combo - $364.98 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660186)
Samsung F3 1TB - $59.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185)
EVGA GTX 580 - $479.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587)
EVGA GTX 580 3D Vision Glasses Combo - $604.98 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.690219)
CORSAIR Professional Series HX1050 1050W PSU - $219.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034)
(2x) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - $99.98 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311)
Crucial M4 128GB SSD - $211.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442)

Total at Newegg = $2,200.82

Then for the monitors:

Planar SA2311W bought from their site (http://www.planaronline.com/product/?id=997-6161-00lf) for $900 by placing 3 separate orders with coupon code SA100off to get $300 off.

The total comes to about $3100 from newegg and planar's site. The 2500K will perform just as good as that i7 970 in games even if you are multitasking overclock it to 4.8GHz too. You have GTX 580 SLI to run 3 monitors for 3D surround vs just one. The Crucial M4 128GB should be plenty for games and is reliable if you are looking to keep it for a long time. In my opinion anyway this is a much better use of $3K you get a way better gaming experience having those three monitors and have the brute force to push them.

You want to keep this for six years? That is a really really bad way to spend funds on a computer. You are way better off spending $1K every 2 years or so on a new computer. This is due to the this setup you plan on getting will be dated in just two years. A setup 2 years from now will likely get you similar performance to this one for $1K then one 4 years from now will totally massacre this build. What you need to take into consideration is the next gen consoles as these will up the graphics quality of PC games due to last gen no longer holding back the hardware on PC. This will make your $3K look even more ancient down the road. Hell that 970 is going to be dated already due to Sandy Bridge - E coming out this winter anyway, so will already be behind the game.

Chaff
2011-08-24, 05:51 PM
Hey, I like where Bruttal was going.....but I'm still trying to get a handle on my impending build. However, I'm scared of SSD's right now. It's rare, but they have staiility issues no one seems to have clearly identified yet. I think they're outpacing the MBs or not in sync with the CPUs. To pay top dollar, I need to see them identify and correct the issues surrounding SSDs.

I have no interest in 3D, but I have a buddy that swears by it. Goku's system sounds good for the $2,200 price tag, but I liked Bruttal's....then Goku seemed to shoot it down pretty brutally (pun was unavoidable).

Sure. The new Sandy Bridge are coming out, but they initially will sell at a rediculous premium.

Anyway. I'm still gonna share where I'm hovering at (today). PLEASE. No one CRUSH me. I'm open to ideas and input. I'm trying to learn what's a wise investment vs what's not. Here goes;

i7-2600K / 3.40GHz (OC it to 4.5 - 4.7)
8 GB Mushkin Enhanced Redline [7-8-7-24] ($95 on NewEgg)
ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Z68 MB (not sure, need info on OC compatabilty w/CPU & GPU)
3 X HIS IceQ X Turbo / 2GB / 840MHz / AMD 6950 (@265/ea)
(I like NVIDIA, but the price on AMD screams "buy me !")

I'm under $3K, but I'm confused on the monitor front. I'm thinking I might run a single 27" Planar. I like the idea of 3 monitors, but I'm not ready to spend much there yet.

I hear conflicting opinions of SLI on multiple cards - with one monitor
....and a whole different spin on running SLI w/mult cards, and with 3 monitors.
HELP
.

Goku
2011-08-24, 08:54 PM
I have no interest in 3D, but I have a buddy that swears by it. Goku's system sounds good for the $2,200 price tag, but I liked Bruttal's....then Goku seemed to shoot it down pretty brutally (pun was unavoidable).

I understand why commenting on builds can sound bad like that. Though the vibe is often unavoidable if the build just is not good. Just trying to give people a proper system for the money. Really what he is trying to accomplish is not feasible in my opinion. If you are building a state of the art rig with all the bells and whistles you really should at most update that 3 years down the line. He wants to keep that rig for 6 years just is not going to work. Like I said spending $1,000 every 2 years will result in a far better gaming experience of those 6 years verse buying all high end with $3,000 right now.

i7-2600K / 3.40GHz (OC it to 4.5 - 4.7)
8 GB Mushkin Enhanced Redline [7-8-7-24] ($95 on NewEgg)
ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Z68 MB (not sure, need info on OC compatabilty w/CPU & GPU)
3 X HIS IceQ X Turbo / 2GB / 840MHz / AMD 6950 (@265/ea)
(I like NVIDIA, but the price on AMD screams "buy me !")

I'm under $3K, but I'm confused on the monitor front. I'm thinking I might run a single 27" Planar. I like the idea of 3 monitors, but I'm not ready to spend much there yet.

I hear conflicting opinions of SLI on multiple cards - with one monitor
....and a whole different spin on running SLI w/mult cards, and with 3 monitors.
HELP
.

Are you buying this or was this the recommendation for Bruttal? I already see a few problems with that. First ram is way overpriced. You are paying double the price for that verse what a 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz will net you for $40-$50. Second is that motherboard as that is mATX and only supports 2 way XFire/SLI, so that will not work for Tri-Fire. You will hate me for saying this, but you are just wasting that system's potential if the core components are that 2600K and TRI 6950 on that 27 Inch Planar. The resolution is only 1920x1080 and a single 6950 handles that with no issues.

With that you either need to get a higher resolution/more monitors or put your budget lower as that system is not needed at 1920x1080. If you want a need single monitor with a higher resolution to drive that I would recommend the Dell U2711 27 inch 2560x1440 as that is a perfect match for the 6950s. Maybe budget limited with that as it costs $800-$1000 depending if there is a sale on it, but just take out a 6950 as 2 will be good for that resolution on top of dropping the CPU down to a 2500K. If you are spending that much and can fit in a 2600K I say go for it, but if its barring a better monitor or video card a 2500K is perfect. There is no performance difference between a 2600K or 2500K in games.

Mutant
2011-08-25, 05:23 AM
I'm under $3K, but I'm confused on the monitor front. I'm thinking I might run a single 27" Planar. I like the idea of 3 monitors, but I'm not ready to spend much there yet.

I hear conflicting opinions of SLI on multiple cards - with one monitor
....and a whole different spin on running SLI w/mult cards, and with 3 monitors.
HELP
.



I am currently running an 6970 Eyefinity setup with 3 x Samsung 2343BW (2048 x 1152) so ~ 6200 x 1152 px
along with a Q9550 + 4GB DDR2 800


At that resolution a few games need settings to be reduced a bit (like metro2033) to keep > 30 fps. If you are looking for constant 60 FPS with all the candy on a 6990 is prob the baby you need.

When running on a single screen max setting on anything i have tried just screams along.

While most games run ok in eyefinity (PS1 does not) "full support" ie HUD realignment on centre screen is all too often lacking.
AVP and MOH both play beautifully with Eyefinity.

I find most of the time playing on single monitor due to poor game support for eyefinity

For the money eyefinity is a good way to spice up your gaming my 3 screens cost less than £500 which is cheaper than even a single decent 27" or 30" IPS screen.
That said i think i would now save up and get a single decent 30" ISP screen.


In the past i have run an SLI setup (8800 GTS) but i found it to be highly hit and miss with how well it performed depending on the game, if you know what games you’re going to be playing and you know they perform well with SLI (or xfire) then it is prob worth it. But i have since taken the opinion that is better to just buy a single top end card and upgrade it regularly.

Speaking of which
the AMD 7xxx series is due in 3-6 months (should be before xmas maybe even late q3)
and the Nvidia 6xx or 7xx or whatever they jump to is likly 6+ months out. (march/april seems possible without any f*k ups)

Both of which will be on 28nm process which should give a decent performance increase (or price decrease).
If i was in the market for a top end gpu right now i would hold off till 7xxx shows it head.

Goku
2011-08-25, 12:56 PM
If anyone is thinking of doing a new build feel free to put a new thread in the tech forum answering these questions (http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37183) for feedback around the time you want to build (with in say 2 weeks). If people continue posting in this thread for help it will just get into a huge mess.

Infektion
2011-08-26, 03:21 PM
I think I'll be okay for the mean time running my
E8400 @ 3.8Ghz (conservative OC)
4GB DDR2 1066Mhz @ 105xMhz (for stability)
and my GTX 460 XLR8 Ed.


If the game is CPU intensive, I'll move on to a i5 2500k and if it's GPU intensive then I'll just pair it up with another GTX 460.

Tiberius
2011-11-03, 07:23 PM
Which of the new HP laptops would be best for PS2?

They all have different processors core i3, i5, and i7, which setup will be the best for running PS2? I've been looking at the dm4t entertainment series, but I dunno much about rigs.

Zulthus
2011-11-03, 07:51 PM
Laptop Gaming is an oxymoron.

Traak
2011-11-04, 07:42 AM
If you have to use a laptop, here's my thread about just that topic:

Gaming Laptops and Prices (http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37536)

I've never thought of gaming and HP in the same concept, except to laugh at the idea.

Levente
2011-11-04, 12:27 PM
They said they are aiming to make it run on a 4(5?) year old PCs in the interview.

I'm quite sure Crisis 2 grade PC is going to be more than enough.

dont be so sure, remember we are talkin about thousends of players on one server plus i think the lightning is leaps ahead of cryegine and frostbite combined together. i think youll need a really high end pc to run this on max settings

Bags
2011-11-04, 12:33 PM
You don't seriously think thousands of people will be on the screen at once though, do you?

And I don't think he was talking about maxing it.

Goku
2011-11-04, 01:00 PM
@ Tiberius

Do you actually need a laptop instead of a desktop? If so and you want HP you should be looking at the DV series listed under their high performance section. Get at least a 6770 and a higher clocked Core i5 CPU. What exactly is your budget on this?


If you have to use a laptop, here's my thread about just that topic:

Gaming Laptops and Prices (http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37536)

I've never thought of gaming and HP in the same concept, except to laugh at the idea.

Traak lol. That HP is like what 1/5 or less the cost of those laptops in your thread?

TRex
2011-11-04, 06:36 PM
You don't seriously think thousands of people will be on the screen at once though, do you?

And I don't think he was talking about maxing it.

Hope my system an handle this , and I hate the big zergy battles anyway. Hoping to be more of the perifery /resecure type of cat and mouse stuff I want to play.

Xyntech
2011-11-04, 07:05 PM
Rendering huge numbers shouldn't be too big an issue. For one thing, you will probably never have more than 10 people right up in your face where you need the most detail. You will also probably rarely have more than 50 or 60 people within a 100m radius of your character during normal gameplay. Maybe when you are grouping together for a screen shot, but you don't need optimal performace during that as long as you can still move around easily enough to get into position.

So even if there does end up being 1500 people on a continent, you will probably never see more than a few hundred within a viewing distance radius at any one time. Most of those hundreds will be more distant, low detail models if they are far away as well, meaning that each one will cause much less of a performance hit than a single soldier standing right in front of you will.

Speaking of lower detail view models, that's another option to keep performance up, although not a pretty one and certainly not to be used except as a last resort to maintain frame rates. If you have too many people close by, you can lower the quality of the models you are seeing to give an emergency increase to your fps.

Ideally, you would have the option to toggle which get's sacrificed first during unusually high graphics demanding situations, frames per second or visual quality, so that you could still take a high quality screenshot of a ton of people all clustered together, even if you had to do it at 3 frames per second.

Lonehunter
2011-11-04, 07:08 PM
I think DirectX 11 is a guarantee. With all the stuff they're doing with NVIDIA/PhysX it'll be easy.

Tiberius
2011-11-04, 10:50 PM
Yeah, I have to use a laptop since I'll probably be deployed when the game is released. I'd like to spend under 1k.

Would I be good with the dv7t select edition? It's a core i5 - or should I go for the quad edition? It has has a core i7 and some better specs.

Traak
2011-11-05, 06:41 AM
Do you actually need a laptop instead of a desktop?

What exactly is your budget on this?

That HP is like what 1/5 or less the cost of those laptops in your thread?

Ah, but there are not ONLY ultra-high-end laptops in my thread. I will quote a few laptop builds from my thread. Not ALL of them are 8kilobucks :D

I didn't know anyone offered customized Asus G74's, but, I checked out another site: http://www.powernotebooks.com. It has a variety of makes, including Sager, so I was pleased to find that you could get a top-line Asus, which is, at this writing, the G74, and customize it.

$2589
Only VPU offered: Nvidia GTX 560M with 3GB of RAM
Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM 2.2~3.1GHz, 45W w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads
Intel® 510 Series 120GB SATA III Solid-State Drive (Up to 400MB/s
The SSD is a very large part of the price increase over stock. But it's responsible for a very large part of the speed increase one will experience, too.
750GB 7200 RPM disk drive
Windows 7 Ultimate with disk


Clevo 17.3" SLI-capable laptop
$2925
Intel 4-core i7-950 (not the new-gen Sandy Bridge)
Arctic Silver thermal compound
1 NVidia GTX 560M video card
12GB RAM
1 Bigfoot Networks 1102 network card, one step down from the 1103 spec'd above
2 120GB SSD's in RAID 0
1 750GB storage/backup drive


In contrast, here's what's available from the upper end of HP's lineup:

HP ENVY 17-2290NR Notebook
$1699
Intel Core i7 2670QM(2.20GHz)
17.3"
8GB Memory DDR3 1333
1.5TB HDD 7200rpm
BD Combo
AMD Radeon HD 6850M

How does this compare, for example, to an ASUS G74 from NewEgg that costs ten dollars more?
$1709.99
ASUS G74 Series G74SX-A1
Intel Core i7 2630QM(2.00GHz)
17.3"
12GB Memory
1.5TB HDD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M Notebook
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
BD Combo
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
LCD Features: LED backlight
Model #: G74SX-A1

Alienware 1-VPU
Backlit keyboard
$1949
Intel i7 2670QM 2.2-3.1GHz processor, four-core, 6MB cache
1 Nvidia GTX 560M 1.5GB 3D
4GB RAM 2X2GB 1600MHz
1 HDD 500GB 7200 RPM SATA II
Intel Centrino wireless-N 1000
Alienware is found on Dell's website.
Low specs available at the bottom of Dell's 3D 17.3" lineup gets you in the door at an affordable price.


The Asus has more RAM than the HP or Alienware and a VASTLY superior video card than the HP. For ten dollars more than the HP. Does the HP have a backlit keyboard like the ASUS?

Nvidia 560M performance (http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560M.48313.0.html)

AMD 6850 performance (http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6850M.43079.0.html)

HP is not really where I would look for performance or value. Like Dell, they jack up their price because of their name.

ASUS seems to be the best value for their level of performance, and they can be upgraded, on various sites, with better CPU, RAM, and SSD's if you have the budget.

Or you can get twin-GPU gaming laptops that are VERY capable, but they don't compare, price-wise to even much-less-expensive desktop or tower computers.

Tiberius
2011-11-06, 01:42 AM
Thanks for the help guys.

Goku
2011-11-06, 10:56 AM
Tiberius is this mostly to replace your desktop over seas by the sounds of it. If you are primarly looking for gaming as the primary usage as opposed to mobility/battery life I would opt for something along Traak is recommending that is a actual desktop replacement, but maybe a bit cheaper (may have to stretch your budget, but worth it).

This ASUS Laptop has a quad i7, GTX 560M like above, and 1920x1080 15 inch screen for $1200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230141).

There is also this refurb ASUS laptop with a slightly slower quad i7 and 17 inch screen for $950 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230174). If you are worried about the warranty get the extra 2 years from newegg for another $100. I was shocked to see that was cheaper then squaretrade that had a 1 year for $170. That company is normally far cheaper then in house warranties, oh well.

Tiberius
2011-11-06, 12:46 PM
Yeah, those ASUS laptops are BEAST. I'd never heard of them before, I'll probably stretch my budget to get one.

Heaven
2012-03-30, 10:38 AM
This is what I am planning on buying for Planetside 2. I don’t think it will need this amount of power but I prefer to have it so I can play it on high settings at least.

Processor
Intel Core i5-2500k Quad Core (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics

Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX

Memory
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
1GB AMD RADEON HD7770 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable


After watching footage form GDC and Alpha the game is looking pretty damn nice but I can imagine it still getting lag in a big heated battle, cant wait to actually find out the official specs though :)

Goku
2012-03-30, 10:55 AM
Please don't bump old threads. There has been more recent topics on this too.