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Frozen-Monkey
2003-03-01, 08:40 PM
Is there something to stop a guy from just poping out of the forest and putting an Anti-vehical round into a base?

Flameseeker
2003-03-01, 08:42 PM
Radar, scout patrols, aircraft fly-bys, people looking from base walls. What do you mean by pop a AV round into a base? You can't hurt bases BTW.

Hamma
2003-03-01, 08:43 PM
:confused:

Frozen-Monkey
2003-03-01, 08:44 PM
i mean to anoy people and maybe kill a person in the process

Vicentegrad
2003-03-01, 08:46 PM
i wager he means if some lone soldier or three could slither to a base under cover of night or trees and then fire as many grenades or missiles into the base attempting to cause havoc on the defenses

sure, you could....but I'd say the net worth isn't much vs the effort

you may kill someone, or a few even, but I just really think you'd be stopped

also remember that invisos can't carry rifles or heavy weapons

Flameseeker
2003-03-01, 08:46 PM
You mean, chuck a grenade over the wall? Phoenix people randomly? That won't last long. You'll get tracked by the smoke trail.

Frozen-Monkey
2003-03-01, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Vicentegrad
i wager he means if some lone soldier or three could slither to a base under cover of night or trees and then fire as many grenades or missiles into the base attempting to cause havoc on the defenses

sure, you could....but I'd say the net worth isn't much vs the effort

you may kill someone, or a few even, but I just really think you'd be stopped

also remember that invisos can't carry rifles or heavy weapons
you got the idea exept maybe justsneek through the trees in the middle of the day, crraling would take to long

Frozen-Monkey
2003-03-01, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Flameseeker
You mean, chuck a grenade over the wall? Phoenix people randomly? That won't last long. You'll get tracked by the smoke trail.
move to a different location after each shot, you got to admit this would be very anoying

Nightmare
2003-03-01, 08:54 PM
lol, that sounds awesome... I mean awful. *writes down plan on paper*

Navaron
2003-03-01, 09:19 PM
"Is there something to stop a guy from just poping out of the forest and putting an Anti-vehical round into a base?"

The base full of pissed off guys?

TheGreatCarbini
2003-03-01, 09:21 PM
Well if your that close to a base you would have to use alot of luck to be unseen unless you have a stealth suit of the base is in the middle or a forest. heavy rain and snow might help too. But also remeber that tall grass won't hide you cause it doesn't clip all the way out, so if your too far from the enemy, he wont see the grass your hiding in, but he'll see you.:)

edit: typos:p

AcidCat
2003-03-01, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Vicentegrad


sure, you could....but I'd say the net worth isn't much vs the effort



I think that sums it up pretty well.:)

Sando138
2003-03-01, 09:30 PM
whats to stop a lone soldier from causing havoc? have you factored any nearby reavers, quitos, baslisks, harrassers, or lightnings into this equation yet?

lone Soldier causing havoc + Reaver + lightning = (lone Soldier causing havoc + (bullet*300)) + (Reaver + lightning - (bullet*300)) = corpse + Reaver + Lightning

Hellsfire123
2003-03-01, 09:32 PM
First off, you cant crawl, only crouch walk.

Second, anything within the base SOI shows up on radar, except infiltaror suits.

Third, Inf cant carry the heavy weapons your talking about, and even if they did they would be visable as soon as you fire.

Well thats three reasons most people wouldnt even try it. Another good one is the base full of guys and the lack of back up you brought.

Oh, and if the enemy happens to have an interlink station, the wall turrets would kill you. Well thats five....

The game was designed so people didnt do lone wolf missions like this one. Im thinknig the only way you gcould do something like this is to drive and enforcer (NC buggy with rocket luancher) close to the base, fire a few rounds and drive away before you can get attacked. Wont help if anyone in the base has the reaver cert though.

DarkDragon00
2003-03-01, 10:44 PM
Terran Elite Airborne Regiment

Plus really, an ambush ia a group of people attacking a smaller group of people that really dont know its coming. Lone Wolfs cannot ambush! at least i dont think you can legally call it an ambush.

-Dark- CO [TEAR]

Fire_Monkey
2003-03-01, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
The base full of pissed off guys?

:lol: this is why we love nav

SandTrout
2003-03-02, 02:34 AM
Sure, a lone wolf could ambush. Set a boomer and mines, get a thumper, and camp until a squad comes by and, well, :blowup:.

This would take a lot of planing, and you might have to wait a long time for a group to come through, so it's probably not worth the effort.

SpaceDrake
2003-03-02, 03:04 AM
A lone wolf cannot cause too much havoc.

An entire squad of guys who are secure in the fact that they can be reborn if they die in the process of causing a lot of havoc and destruction is another matter entirely. :devilwink

Frozen-Monkey
2003-03-02, 07:44 PM
dont you mean respawn?

Flameseeker
2003-03-02, 08:23 PM
I don't think that two guys can ambush a base.
"Hey let's wait for the base to come by and then jump it!"
"Yeah, good idea."
6 hours later
"Do bases move?"
"No, I don't think so."
"Oh. Well let's make a new plan."

NeoTassadar
2003-03-02, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Frozen-Monkey
dont you mean respawn?

In that context, same damn thing. In different context, it could mean actually born again (infants with guns :D ), but not there.

TGF NightHawk
2003-03-02, 10:06 PM
You could use this tactic to your outfit's advantage, that is if you are a crazy f*#@er! You could pull up on your basilisk & fire/toss grenades etc. While you draw some attention, your outfit could attack from the opposite side & catch them off guard!
Something like that....anyway!;)

tmax
2003-03-02, 10:52 PM
seriously a loner may be able to take out one or two guys but they will eventually just run out and stomp him

Zatrais
2003-03-03, 06:46 AM
Lonewolfs.... free BEPs! :D

Hawklans
2003-03-03, 09:07 AM
Cant see much to say a lone ambusher is going to be effective... and anyway its not really an ambush if you attack a base.... ambush implies suprise but surely if your in a base you expect to be attacked....

Now ambushes away from bases will happen, i cant wait for the first time an enemy squad comes over a hill to find 4-5 squads waiting for them..... oh the bloody slaughter...

As a distraction the idea has real merit, anything that gives an attacking force a few seconds to cover open ground around the base will help and even if the lone attacker gets slaughtered then it might well be worth while.

Sorry for being pedantic about the ambush definition

And hello everyone by the way

balab
2003-03-03, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Hellsfire123

Second, anything within the base SOI shows up on radar, except infiltaror suits.


is this true? i thought radar displays most vehicles and moving players. w/ the silent run implant you could even slip under the radar while moving.

btw anyone have an approx on the range of the personal radar?

Chanfan
2003-03-03, 01:47 PM
True, this isn't ambushing, it's harassing.

Harassing with hit and run tactics can, in fact, be a very effective thing to do, assuming there's some organization behind it.

If your lone wolf - or small squad - can draw and keep the attention of a larger force, they are doing a very useful service to their side - assuming that it is taken advantage of.

Anytime you have two roughly equal forces, this can be useful - because while the harassing force is keeping a larger force busy, the rest of your force can be attacking in numerical superiority at some important location.

This really works well when you have several harassing forces at several different locations. If the enemy is smart enough to have a reserve - or even if it's just the folks just coming into the game - it makes it hard for them to determine where the real attack is. Any time spent sitting in the safe zone, trying to sort it out, or spawning at the harassed locations (instead of the real target) is a boon for the attacking side. It's extra time to secure those spawn points and camp them, to prevent the diverted reenforcements from making it in after they figure out the harassers aren't a real threat.

Just harassing randomly doesn't have nearly the value. It does, admittedly, make it a little more difficult to tell when the harassment is random or a ploy to keep troops pinned. You could get lucky and help out an attack that just happens to be going on at that time. Plus, it could be for the enjoyment of the harassers, so what the hey. :)