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Chaff
2011-08-25, 04:49 PM
;)
Budget:
$2,500 (flexible – could go another thousand)
...and spending LESS is no problem.
Location:
San Diego, CA
Computer Purpose:
Planetside2 & various MMOG, MS Office, Pinnacle Video Editing, Photoshop, web, music,…
Parts:
Complete build
Monitor/Resolution:
Looking at Planar 27” PX2710 / 1920X1080
(have 2 nice 24” Samsung already)
OS:
Need W7, 64bit
(ran XP on old machine)
MB needs:
USB 3.0/Sata 6.0 Gb/s
SLI / Firewire option would be nice
OC compatability w/2500K or 2600K (have my eyes on: ASUS P8P67-M PRO)
SSD:
Corsair 128GB SSD
(Model: Performance 3 Series CSSD-P3128GB2) (SATA 6Gbps)
OC:
YES. Both CPU & GPU
...the MUSHKIN Enhanced Redline I referenced over on that other thread was for 8GB at 1600 MHz. I just like that brand - dunno what's actually the best. Was 7-8-7-24. $95 seemed good for that much Mushkin.
Timeline:
Flexible / would like machine for Beta / best to wait until October/November
NOTE:
Some overkill on MB or video card(s) is fine – soon, I may want to run multiple monitors, SLI,….
The price and 7ms response time on the Dell U2711 put me off. The super-high resolution is impressive.
Seems more optimum for graphics than gaming.
:D
Just a couple more questions. What kind of specs are you coming from? Part of the reason the U2711 has a slightly higher response time is due to the IPS screen as that has much better colors compared to a TN. With your budget I would seriously consider it. I see many gamers using that monitor and swear by it. The response time isn't that bad considering just a few years ago these IPS screens had 20 ms + response time. Out of all the time I have been helping people with builds they never spent your budget on 1920x1080. Have you considered getting another 24 inch monitor like the ones you have to do a multimonitor setup?
Chaff
2011-08-25, 05:08 PM
Good questions.
Just cuz I start at 1920 doesn't mean I'll stay there long
It's just where my current monitor(s) stops
How can I know which I'd prefer unless I've seen both setups ?
3 X 24" at 1920X1080
vs
1 X 30" at 5760X2160 (or whatever it actually is)
Will those super rediculous resolutions of the Dell pay dividends in PS2 ?
(btw, I HATE Dell)
All things being equal - I tend to think a 30" monitor is as big as I'll ever want
and that one monitor will be easier for my BB to focus on than three.
The quality of the picture will probably freak me out - in a real good way.
BB = ?
I really have no opinion on Dell. The last product I personally bought from them was a Desktop like 10 years ago. Many highly regard them in the monitor market though.
I never used a huge 30 inch or multi monitor, so I cannot comment on either setup. I would recommend reading up on peoples opinions. I have seen people going from multi monitor to a 30 inch screen and preferring that, but others have the exact opposite.
Really can't go any further till then as there is a huge difference between a 1920x1080 vs big/multimonitor setups.
Chaff
2011-08-25, 05:22 PM
BB = SIZE of my brain
I think you (or I) might have sold me on the big Dell monitor. Before I respawn, my corpse will be that much more impressive there on the ground....
Not sure who I will/can get to build this thing. More importantly, I want to know the small details of a good build are all pre-handled before I take delivery. If I spend a few grand, I want a sytem 100% done.
I will need help dialing in the monitor and game settings. I want to keep my FPS up. Running high FPS is what made me think of staying at 1920. I did not run that high of a resolution on PS1, so I might be very happy at 1920.
I might be wise to never see what I've been missing - with a monitor like the big Dell you like.
It is not hard assembling a computer either. If you could do a lego set when you were a kid then you are in the clear.
This is higher end then those tri 6950s you were thinking about, but check this review (http://hardocp.com/article/2011/05/03/nvidia_3way_sli_amd_trifire_redux/1) out to see how tri 580s/6970s perform at multimonitor/big resolutions.
Check this write up/video (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/28/amds_ati_eyefinity_technology_review) out for more input on multi monitor.
Chaff
2011-08-25, 06:16 PM
It's not the assembly. It's the the compatability within the small details that scares me away. Too many nuances of campatability between components - especially with serious OC - which I want. My son helped me build two machines. We did no OC. We did alright. Luckily, he had no fear of failure.
Interesting. I actually had some clue (thanks to reading reviews on Anandtech on some dif systems they have tested) as to the OC of the processor being essential to making the 580 work. That's how I ended up married to the idea of the 2600K.
Now, I have some new questions.
I'll get back to this in a day or two. Work to do. I may be back on tonight.
Thanks for your time & the knowledge - very cool !
....I'm left wondering if only TWO of the 580s would essentially pull the same numbers
as the tri-SLI.
....upon review of all the different test scores....
the resolution settings (2560 X 1600) on the big (30" ?) single monitor
and the accompanying high FPS struck me as the happy medium
that I think will best suit what I want on all fronts. Would only TWO 580s still work ?
Computers are designed for multiple parts being put together, so I would not worry about that fine details. Only major compatibility issues you may find is between ram, cpu, and mobo. All is easily avoidable if you know what parts you are getting.
GTX 580 SLI should be plenty for 2560x1600 in my opinion. If you find yourself needing more throw in another down the road to bump the FPS up more.
Are you leaning towards the U2711 or U3011 at the moment, since you keep talking about 30 inchers?
Do you only want Nvidia for this build, no ATI? I wish the 6970s where still around as you could get 3 for like $100 more and beat the GTX 580 SLI in terms of performance by about 30%.
For ya to get a idea here is a build I came up with:
Corsair HX1050 - $224.37
MSI P67A-GD65 Motherboard - $169.99
Dell UltraSharp U2711 - $854.64
(2X) EVGA GeForce GTX 580 Superclocked 1536 MB - (2X) $489.99
Sony 24X SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive - $19.99
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit - $91.98
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB - $59.99
Intel Core i5-2500K - $219.95
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 - $61.30
Crucial M4 128GB SSD - $206.99
SILVERSTONE RV02B-W 0.8 mm Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $159.99
Total = $3,049.17 not including shipping. You are not paying any taxes either, since it is from Amazon.
We can trim this down a lot if you want to stick with 1920x1080 to keep your frame rate more stable and lower the cost.
It is not hard assembling a computer either. If you could do a lego set when you were a kid then you are in the clear.
Not quite; the difference being is if you snapped a lego you were out $.30 versus being out ~$200 if you snap something here. :p
Hmm true. Thankfully I never snapped a computer part before. I came close snapping a motherboard when putting on a heat sink as the damn thing was bending quite a bit. Was fine in the end though.
Yeah, my last video card literally popped right in. I was pleasantly surprised.
Chaff
2011-08-28, 11:33 AM
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....still mulling things over, but I'm not going to go the U2711 route. Read dozens and dozens of reviews of U2711 buyers. IMO, the high-res quick-response gaming console market has not throttled-up yet. I suspect it will soon enough. When I see a high-res gaming monitor I think is worth anywhere near $1,000 - I'll get it - and upgrade my video card(s) to match. The fact I like to do photo work led me to temporarily over-value the double bonus of the super resolution of the Dell. Besides, I hate Dell. I'd rather buy from just about any other company.
Currently, I'm leaning into going with the 2500K or 2600K and building for high FPS and minimal lag. I like the 27" Planar running at 1920X1080 (the $300 ballpark is a plus).
I have a homemade machine mothballed in my sons old room. Nice solid mid-tower Lian Li case - usable with a P67/68 MB ?
Or, I have my old CyberPower built gamer that sits in a big full tower. MB fried. I can still use the optical drives. It's a CM STACKER. Well-vented mesh sides, mesh bottom, and mesh/fan top. Aluminum case. No windows. Circa 2004-ish. It's a monster.
I shall start gutting the CoolerMaster in preparation of a rebuild.
Looks like one (or 2 ?) 580s will be fine to run ONE 27" at 1920X1080. Or, instead of one 580, perhaps 2 AMD cards. 8GB memory seems like more than enough there as well. I'm a little stuck on the 580 card because I've goten this impression that they work best with the very high OC'd machines. Your prior link (HardOCP) and other Anandtech tests I've read seem to verify this belief.
Ignoring price - G Skill vs Mushkin - which do you think is better ? When my son and I built our first machines, I went with Mushkin. They seemed to reek of quality vs. other sticks we saw later.
Want to Super OC everything I can .... going for speed. Where do I go to get help/info on HOW to do it and what to watch for ?
COOLING the CPU, drives, MB, and cards are a priority and concern. I may buy a little 10,000btu wall/window air conditioner - and plumb it to flow around the case. Less than $250 on NewEgg and prob find cheaper elsewhere. Might be cheaper than a liquid cooling system anyway. Maybe a steady flow of 65 degree air flowing directly at the Stacker and lots of case fans circulating it thru will suffice. I don't know squat about installing liquid cooling - and don't trust myself to do it right.
I feel like I'm finally zeroing in on a saner system for the short-run .... and then I can essentially follow your "upgrade every year (or two)" mantra....
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One GTX 580 is overkill for my standards on 1920x1080, but if you want to keep high FPS with max settings it is the best way to go. If you wish to do that just get the 580 and do not bother with multi gpu cards.
The Stacker is a good case to with plently of room with lots of fans. What Liani Li case do you have?
Neither ram company in my opinion is any better then the ones you listed. Most of these guys buy ram from the actual maker then bin them to get the kind of product they want be it lower ram timmings or higher MHz.
I have read issues with using Air conditioners for cooling computer due to the condensation as it can cause a short circuit on the components in the interior. Factoring in cost it would cost way more on electricity and noise level too. Water cooling is the best way to overclock while having next to nothing for noise. To be honest a good high end air cooler will get the 2x00K series to their maximum overclock, so neither ACs or water is needed.
Anyway you can continue figuring out parts, but since you do not want to do this for another 2-3 months do not worry about finalizing anything. There is going to be new CPUs from AMD and Intel by then and possibly video cards. Whatever you come up today for a build will likely be far different by then. If you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread of course.
Chaff
2011-08-28, 11:59 AM
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Damn - you are like a Ninja on these pages - quick, silent, skilled, and deadly. I like it.
I'm listenting - don't think I'm not. Still reading. Closing in on final config....
Thanks man !
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Chaff
2011-08-28, 12:02 PM
...back of my Lian Li shows;
PC-65B ?
Is that the Model ?
What's a good Air Cooler that you'd recommend ?
What do you think is the BEST one out there ?
I hear y' on the new CPUs comin' out. If the price is too high and they don't OC incredibly faster - maybe the price of the 2500/2600K will be too good to pass up.
I'm fine with the upgrade every year plan - technology.....exponentially builds on itself. By the time the newest arrives in the mail ..... something better seems to already be coming off the assembly line.
I aim to stay reasonably close to the front of the technology wave - but won'y try to stay on the front of it. It would drive me nuts - and costs too much. I think right now, the 2500/2600K are a great example - not cutting-edge, but still pretty smokin' nonetheless.
Talk at ya again soon - have a GREAT Sunday.
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Of course. Just happy someone is taking in the advice! Yes if you have funds for a super high end computer, but plan to keep it for years and years. You are best off spending that money over those years on new builds/upgrades to keep it more current then the super uber computer could ever be within those later years.
@ The case
Yes that is the model. The is actually the same case I had for 2 years before giving it to my cousin for his build. Very nice craftsminship, but it fails to deliever the proper air flow for todays computers. You are better off with the stacker. At one time I had 7900 GT SLI and a Athlon X2 4200+ (S939) overclocked it was like an oven in there.
Chaff
2011-08-28, 01:16 PM
Still hoping for your recomendation on a good/best air cooler.
Also, If I decide to run triple 24" screens at 1920X1080
how many 580s will be needed to keep FPS high ?
2 ?
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Depends on how much you want to spend to be honest regarding that air cooler. Even $30 ones will be good enough for overclocking Sandy Bridge like the Coolermaster Hyper 212+.
Two should be plenty for that resolution from reviews I have seen, three if you want the best.
Mutant
2011-08-30, 10:31 AM
Still hoping for your recomendation on a good/best air cooler.
Also, If I decide to run triple 24" screens at 1920X1080
how many 580s will be needed to keep FPS high ?
2 ?
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Take a look at the corsair hydro cpu coolers at the high end, very good cooling but not silent.
the H100 gives near custom water loop cooling with ease of air installation.
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series.html?utm_source=Corsair&utm_medium=Website&utm_content=H60Banner&utm_campaign=FrontPage
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4257/corsair_hydro_series_h100_extreme_performance_liqu id_cpu_cooler_review/index1.html
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....still mulling things over, but I'm not going to go the U2711 route. Read dozens and dozens of reviews of U2711 buyers. IMO, the high-res quick-response gaming console market has not throttled-up yet. I suspect it will soon enough. When I see a high-res gaming monitor I think is worth anywhere near $1,000 - I'll get it - and upgrade my video card(s) to match. The fact I like to do photo work led me to temporarily over-value the double bonus of the super resolution of the Dell. Besides, I hate Dell. I'd rather buy from just about any other company.
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It seems you have been drawn away from the 30" idea but just to point out there are several options that are not Dell.
The following has my attention as good price/performance;
HP ZR30w 30-inch S-IPS LCD Monitor
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/HP-ZR30w-30Inch-SIPS-LCD-Monitor-Review/?page=1
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3754/a-new-30-contender-hp-zr30w-review/1
It is worth pointing out that refresh rate is not that important in itself. Input lag however is and it is incredibly frustrating that it is never on a monitors spec sheet.
The last gen of IPS panels were poor with quite a bit more input lag over TN.
The newer IPS panels with better image processors get input lag down to levels comparable to decent TN panels.
It should also be noted that IPS panels do not have inherently more input lag over TN planels as it is largly the image processing on the monitor that adds to the lag and some TN panels give much more input lag over good IPS.
Chaff
2011-08-30, 11:37 AM
If I was to value these high-end monitors primarily on their color accuracy, I would be sold. For the price ballpark, I want a little more performance in other areas. It is tempting though. Too close of a call for the money. The HP is impressive.
I still have my eye on them and it looks like I have at least another month to decide. My gut says to go this route later - they will only get better. Maybe around this time next year....
Chaff I found your next video card (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LPb_7cR40&feature=player_embedded#!)!
Chaff
2011-08-31, 12:02 PM
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Sweeeeeeeeet. 3GB GDDR5. Is this thing even for sale anywhere yet ? Price ?
Two ASUS ROG MARS II cards can be paired together to support NVIDIA® Quad SLI™ in an SLI-Certified motherboard such as the ASUS ROG Rampage III Extreme or Black Edition for the ultimate performance setup that allows you to crank up the graphics settings to maximum for an unmatched DirectX® 11 gaming experience* using NVIDIA® Surround™ technology (of course).
Is it love, or just sheer lust ?
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I think it is going to cost like $1,500 :D. It is a godly card though. If only I had money to blow...
Chaff
2011-08-31, 12:23 PM
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$1,500 ??????????????
REDONKULOUS !
...make it $29.99 (before $10 rebate) ! ! ! ! !
Let us know when you see it selling somewhere.....
....heck, I'm looking at OVER $900 for TWO of the 580s.
They need to price this ROG MARS II card around $850-$950
Hey, I'll ONLY buy TWO of these
....and run THREE of the U2711 monitors with it.
No problem.
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Mutant
2011-08-31, 12:40 PM
They are only putting 999 of those cards into retail, it is hardly more than a marketing stunt lol.
SgtMAD
2011-08-31, 02:08 PM
you don't have to sli the 580, i am running the 570 and was going to sli them but after seeing the cards performance I held off buying the second one.
I also have the ASUS ROG Rampage III Extreme,if you have the approx. $380 it is a nice MoBo
I am running the Corsair H-70 cooler and it is silent and easily handles anything I have thrown at it
I bought a 32 inch vizio xvt323sv led razor and it works perfectly as a monitor.
I run all this through a 4x2 hdmi switch that lets me network two HD sets,X-Box,home theater and my comp,I can display on either the 32 inch or my 40" Samsung or on both if I want to.
the coolest thing I bought was a coffee table that has a lift top on it that brings it up to desk height in front of my couch so I can play on either TV
thank god I am not married anymore,no woman would ever let me have all the gear I have set up in my living room without a huge fight.
Chaff
2011-08-31, 03:11 PM
women can and will get jealous of anything that doesn't center around them
unless, you find one of those rare females that enjoy gaming.
Doing anything together tends to help build bonds.
I just don't want my woman to be drivin' no BFT.
....her personality would better fit HA.
.....my daughter is a nerd. She likes it all .... sports, outdoors, ComiCon, gaming, music,...
Her boyfriend got lucky finding her. Oh.....she's also funny, smart, and very good looking.
Rare, but they're out there.
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Chaff your daughter sounds like a 1 in a million lol.
Chaff
2011-09-02, 05:47 PM
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yeah. she's a 1-in-a-million indeed. A hot nerd. They're out there.
My wife and I have learned to tolerate our differences. It's good for
us to have time to ourselves to do our own thing.
If I was going to buy my parts right now, this is where I stand:
(...good or bad....right or wrong)
PSU.... ANTEC HCP-1200
MB..... ASUS Maximus IV Extreme ROG P67
CPU.... i7-2600K 3.4 MHz
MEM.... 8GB
GPU.... 3 X HIS IceQ X Turbo Radeon HD6950 / 2GB / 880MHZ
SSD.... KINGSTON HYPER X / 240GB
HDD.... HITACHI Ultrastar 7K3000 / 2TB
DRV.... LG UH12LS28
Intel XTS100H Cooler
(around $2,800 - today)
Probabaly will drop another $300 by the time I clear escrow, move in, and pull the trigger on my build.
.....I got time to change my mind .... wait .... perhaps see some of the new stuff come out and force me to change my strategy/thinking.
.....still mulling things over....reading....HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND ALL !
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You still want to run that on 1920x1080 screen? That is such a waste of money doing that. Thats why I was saying multimonitor or the high resolution 27/30 inch.
Chaff
2011-09-02, 11:46 PM
figure I can run 3 X 24" at 1920X1080 right away
.....also....puts me RIGHT where I want......
.....where I almost HAVE to go HIGH RES
I can get the PC READY for it NOW....
.....and wait a few months.....
THIS config defintely is open to change
BUT, it puts me EVERYWHERE I want to be
.....short of my ULTIMATE monitor config.....
I think I might start off with 3 X 24"
.....a lot of cats swear by this setup.
I need to at least TRY it for a few months.
I like 1920X1080 - looks GOOD to my eye
and this way I keep my lag down & FPS high
(and I am primed to switch to the HIGH RES setup)
can't lose either way (IMO)
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Thats not the way to build a PC, Chaff. You are doing a complete over kill 3K build for a 1920x1080 monitor and going multimonitor a few months down the road. By the time you order this and then go multimonitor there will be way better video cards out that would allow you to run that res even better. Thats why it is not a good idea to be planning ahead like that. Really I think the best option for you is just to go with a single 580 for 1920x1080 as that will provide good FPS then go another for multimonitor whenever you get to that point. Just seems the recommendations I gave you got thrown out the window and you are back to the first build you wanted.
Chaff
2011-09-03, 12:17 AM
Thats not the way to build a PC, Chaff. You are doing a complete over kill 3K build for a 1920x1080 monitor and going multimonitor a few months down the road. By the time you order this and then go multimonitor there will be way better video cards out that would allow you to run that res even better. Thats why it is not a good idea to be planning ahead like that. Really I think the best option for you is just to go with a single 580 for 1920x1080 as that will provide good FPS then go another for multimonitor whenever you get to that point. Just seems the recommendations I gave you got thrown out the window and you are back to the first build you wanted.
(I have the multi-monitors RIGHT NOW)
....who knows.....I haven't pulled the trigger yet.....and if you read back....I've done a hell of a lot of waffling.
A LOT of people think spending ONE PENNY on gaming is a waste, so PERSPECTIVE, no matter how clear or skewed, is what ultimately drives us all.
...may not SEEM like it, but I am TRYING to NOT let my TWACKED side get the better of me on this. My imagination sometimes (temporarily) gets the better of me. :evil:
I don't need no school teacher scolding from no one. I'm a grown ass man - and I've got a long track record (of going sideways when I know better).
:D
No worries. I HEAR what you're sayin', and it makes TOTAL sense.
We'll see. I'm gonna have fun no matter how damn responsible I (do, or don't) force myself to be.
:groovy:
You said only had two monitors, so you need to add another. Did you already buy another Samsung like the ones you have?
I don't need no school teacher scolding from no one. I'm a grown ass man - and I've got a long track record (of going sideways when I know better).
I realize I may sound jerkish, but I honestly do not know any other way to put it. A 1920x1080 with that setup is just a total waste of $3,000 when a $1,000 is plenty for that res. I am not scolding you in anyway. You did make the thread for feedback do not forget. Even on all the tech sites I visit I do not think I see anyone running 3 way 6950s at that res. Every know and 6950 crossfire maybe, but most multi gpu I see at that res is 460, 6850, or 6870. All higher end 6950 + video card are perfect for the res.
Chaff
2011-09-03, 12:47 AM
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Adding a 3rd 24" monitor is not an issue. My gut tells me I will, and I will start off runnig three monitors. I want to give it a few months.
If I could run super high resolutions on any screen size - the logistcal reallities may be that 3 X 24" is about it ..... and that 3 X 27" (or bigger) would not work.
I am liking the idea at running 3 x 1920X1080 X 24"
(at least for a few months)
Last year I gave one of my extra 24" to my wifes best friend. Her Mom just died, and they'll be using her PC .... so fate may give me my 3rd 24". I like it cuz they'll all be the same Samsung. I've still got mine, and my son left me his old PC (that was in that Lian Li). He's good with just his laptop. He surfs waves (and the internet) - not into gaming anymore.
ONE 6980 will suffice the 3 X 1920X1080 ?
...and MAYBE I have to throttledown most of the rest of it....
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Adding a 3rd 24" monitor is not an issue. My gut tells me I will, and I will start off runnig three monitors. I want to give it a few months.
I am sorry, but you are confusing me now. You are starting with multi monitor then? How you are phrasing everything I am thinking you are starting with one 1920x1080 monitor then moving to three at a later time. Now its 3 x 24 inch monitors then moving to 3 x 27 inch? Are the 27 inch the Planar?
6980? Do you mean 6970 or 6990?
Chaff
2011-09-03, 12:56 AM
I'm 99% setled on starting off running 3 X 24" @ 1920X1080
I had TWO all along, and it looks like a third one I gave away
will come back - I take it as A SIGN. They are all the same 24" Samsung.
The 27" PLANAR was something that I thought I'd look at as a single monitor
and if I liked it, I figured going 27" X 3 was then an option. I'm on my wifes
desktop with a 22" LG - and three-wide of these seems like it'd be enormous.
I doubt 3 X 27" is logistically feasable. It's so EASY to go 3 X 24", I feel I have
to try that first.
As I calm myself down I am left with the assumptive reasoning which is telling
me that going with three monitors at 27" or bigger would be a logistical mistake.
I'm having a hard time with my overkill tendencies. I should go down on the SSD
and my big HD. The Antec is overkill, but I want a PSU I can leave in there for a
long time. You can talk me down the ledge on most anything else.
If I like the 3 X 24" setup I assume I'd start looking for super high resolutions on that size
monitor....and try to SANELY work my way there.
Have a great Memorial weekend
Labor day? What video card are you talking about? There isn't a 6980 I know it is a typo of course.
Yeah 240GB is a bit overkill unless you have the budget for a SSD like that. 128GB should be plenty. If you have a need for 2TB of storage between games, movies, pictures, and so on thats fine as it doesn't eat a large portion of a budget. The PSU is good too. I would of likely recommended that for a 3 way setup anyway.
Chaff
2011-09-03, 02:14 PM
yes / typo / my bad
yeah - LABOR Day (serious brain farts lately)
....considering the 6950 (instead of the GTX580)
lots cheaper, and is pretty close in performance.
GTX seems to really light-up with serious OCing.
I do not think I showed you this one yet. Here is a review (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/05/03/nvidia_3way_sli_amd_trifire_redux/1) the features a 6900 + 6970 Tri-Fire vs GTX 580 Tri-SLI going head to head with 3 monitors and a 30 inch monitor. A 6990+6970 is the same as 6970 3 way crossfire. Keep in mind the 6950 is a bit lower performance verse the 6970.
Chaff
2011-09-05, 10:54 PM
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....already read that review a while back. Anandtech has test data that yields the same conclusion.
My last sentence in my post right before yours hits directly on this.
I've been stuck on the 580 for a while - and tests like this are why.
I got stuck on the 2600K & GTX580 combo a while back. They seem
to be an OC'ing match made in Heaven.
.....still, I've looked at AMD options more than once during that same time....
I'm hoping to beat Beta, but it's not necessary that I do. Maybe it's better if I don't. I might learn something about PS2 mechanics that help my build.
I'm mostly hoping that some stuff comes out that either drives what I already like down by a good margin, or some of the performance numbers on the new stuff is just too damn good to pass up.
I'm still dealing with an intenal debate on the 27/30 Dell/HP HIGH resolution single monitor route.
I do NOT like waffling this much, but I guess it's good I have the luxury of waiting for exterior dominoes to fall - before I build. I'm locked on the Antec, 8GB memory, 2600K,...
(.....don't mean I havn't "looked" at the Phenom II X6 1100T...)
I'm gonna try to lay off posting here until I'm within a week or so of pulling the trigger. I'm tired of hearing me.
I'll be back for the final submisson in a few weeks (I hope).
....my Stacker is stripped bare and has LOTS of room.
Lol Chaff. I can't wait to see your waddling when AMD's new CPU comes out. Its a octo core!
Mutant
2011-09-06, 05:50 AM
Lol Chaff. I can't wait to see your waddling when AMD's new CPU comes out. Its a octo core!
Whats the bet they announce bulldozer chips the day before Chaff presses go on the build :D
Hacks have been briefed and are under NDA already so cant be long.
And then once everything has been re adjusted HD7000 series hits lol
And then SB-E
and..
and,,..
Still at least its looking like ivy bridge and kepler are April/May now.
Whats the bet they announce bulldozer chips the day before Chaff presses go on the build :D
Hacks have been briefed and are under NDA already so cant be long.
And then once everything has been re adjusted HD7000 series hits lol
And then SB-E
and..
and,,..
Still at least its looking like ivy bridge and kepler are April/May now.
Indeed. We will tell him why he doesn't need 8 cores and then he is set after 3 pages. Then SB-E comes out. That will be at least 8 pages of discussion :D.
I vote we rename Tech Forum to Goku Forum.
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