Advertisements in PS2

[Lonehunter]

If you played the original you remember the ads. How do y'all feel about ads in PS2? With a F2P model I'm sure this is a possibility.

[Bags]

I didn't mind them as long as they were quiet.

[Zulthus]

Absolutely nothing wrong with billboards or something of the sort showing advertisements. As long as they are out of the way/in an uncap or friendly base, something like that..

[Azren]

Im all for ADs, they are a stable and secure income for the devs and in turn make sure that the game store will not break the game balance.

[Grimster]

Yeah sure ads is fine by me. For me personally they could always have images meant for advertising on the loading screens also. I have a vague memory that they used to have this back in the day. It was a Intel image if I recall correctly. Maybe it wasn't a ad but it sure looked like one. :)

[Draep]

WTF? You sell-outs. NO ADS for PS2 please. Advertisements ruined the whole feel of the first game. I roll out to a base, fire going on all around me, about to die and I see an old spice commercial happening on the wall?

The ADs in PS1 were tacky, loud and repeated over and over. They have absolutely no place in this kind of game. I don't care of the devs make money from them, Sony is a giant company with plenty of revenue sources, they don't need to whore out this game for a couple of extra bucks. Where would you even put the ads anyway?

[Zulthus]

They... didn't ruin any feel at all. They were in the HART building and friendly bases. And how are any of us sellouts? Ads in a game aren't for personal advancement. They weren't nearly as annoying as you seem to think they were.

[Logit]

If you played the original you remember the ads. How do y'all feel about ads in PS2? With a F2P model I'm sure this is a possibility.

If the money goes back into the game we should all welcome them with open arms. Any money they have to make this game better is good IMO.

[Hamma]

I liked the advertisements when they had PSU in them.. :lol:

[The Desert Fox]

If you played the original you remember the ads. How do y'all feel about ads in PS2? With a F2P model I'm sure this is a possibility.

Considering they did it when they were charging us 15 bucks a month, I feel like it's not just a possibility but a guarantee.

[Draep]

They... didn't ruin any feel at all. They were in the HART building and friendly bases. And how are any of us sellouts? Ads in a game aren't for personal advancement. They weren't nearly as annoying as you seem to think they were.

You're a sellout because you are willing to accept ads in a game you pay for already. Maybe ads would make more sense in an free to play model, but in PS1 you payed a pretty hefty monthly fee plus the cost of the game. Ok listen. I live in a world where I get bombarded everywhere I go with advertisements. Frankly, I'm sick of people trying to sell shit to me. Ads IRL are pretty annoying, I don't need them mucking up my online fun time.

Ads in a game aren't for personal advancement.

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[Logit]

You're a sellout because you are willing to accept ads in a game you pay for already. Maybe ads would make more sense in an free to play model, but in PS1 you payed a pretty hefty monthly fee plus the cost of the game. Ok listen. I live in a world where I get bombarded everywhere I go with advertisements. Frankly, I'm sick of people trying to sell shit to me. Ads IRL are pretty annoying, I don't need them mucking up my online fun time.


I pay $100 to go to a Phillies game, am I sellout when they try to advertise to me?

$15 is "pretty hefty?"

PS2 IS free to play, so it makes sense.

[Draep]

This ain't a baseball game, I expect to be advertised to there. Though to be honest I wouldn't like it much there either. You can't just accept the fact that some people don't want to have things sold to them sometimes?

[Logit]

This ain't a baseball game, I expect to be advertised to there. Though to be honest I wouldn't like it much there either. You can't just accept the fact that some people don't want to have things sold to them sometimes?

Only if you can accept that fact that this isn't 1992, and advertising is part of the everyday world we live in.

[Draep]

Thats a topic for a different forum altogether.

[Atuday]

I liked the use of Ads in the game but ads that made noise angered me a lot. Either silent ads or ads that "feel" like they belong in planetside would be great. For example an ad for in tr bases would be for a store that sells ammo ;) Put an android phone ad in that speaks directly to the vanu techies. Sell penis enlargement pills to the NC. And when we invade each others bases then we see the adds of the other empires.

[Crator]

Uh, not really. We are talking about Ad.Verts. in PS2.

Anyways, why not just add option to allow paying subs. to turn off the ads?

[Crazyduckling]

Not a huge fan of the ingame ads. We've grown used to them, but I don't want to walk to the battlefield after just seeing a billboard in my spawn saying, "This kill brought to you by Coca Cola" and it has a nice bottle of Coke with a smiling NC character.

I know its not really like that, but I think ads detract from the mood of the game.

[basti]

No problem with ingame ads, but they need to be done right. Means no sound, ever. Place them kindly on the walls of bases again, or add like a random billboard that looks somewhat broken in an urban area. That stuff would work well. But sound is a no go, as well as putting ads somewhere into the UI.

[waldizzo]

I'm okay with ads as long as they allow me to buy my way out of them.

[Zulthus]

Draep, you don't seem to know what a sellout is. A sellout is a person who changes the way they do things for the worse for personal gain. So, I have no idea why you are calling any of us sellouts. Advertisements are optional to watch. If you don't want to buy anything, don't stand in front of a 2x2 feet poster watching what you hate being bombarded with. Yes, we should have an option to turn off the sound. Nothing wrong with additional revenue for SOE.

[Talek Krell]

His questionable vocabulary aside, I think Draep is talking about the billboards that they had mounted in some bases. I think they eventually (and wisely) turned those off so that it was just the adds above the HART door.

[Lonehunter]

It would probably limit the amount or quality of sponsors, but they could even put in an option to just turn them off.

SOE could even make the adds themselves. A hot chick in a TR bikini drinkin a Dr Pepper, a Jackhammer with the Beretta logo on the side, or a skeeter pilot listening to a radio channel.

[Draep]

Advertisements are optional to watch. If you don't want to buy anything, don't stand in front of a 2x2 feet poster watching what you hate being bombarded with. Yes, we should have an option to turn off the sound. Nothing wrong with additional revenue for SOE.

They aren't optional, just like the ad on the side of a bus isn't optional to watch, its gonna flash in front of your vision whether you like it or not. I ain't gonna turn off my sound, are you kidding me? I ain't standing infront of the fuckers, they just appear when i go somewhere. I see them and think, is that we're fighting for?

sell·out
   /ˈsɛlˌaʊt/ Show Spelled[sel-out] Show IPA
noun
1. an act or instance of selling out.
2. an entertainment, as a show or athletic event, for which all the seats are sold.
3. Informal . a person who betrays a cause, organization, or the like; traitor.
4. Informal . a person who compromises his or her personal values, integrity, talent, or the like, for money or personal advancement.

Don't talk to me about fucking vocabulary.

[Duddy]

Don't talk to me about fucking vocabulary.

Clearly he wouldn't want to, you use "'aint" and "gonna" repeatedly.

Also to have "sold out" would imply that these people would of previously held the value that advertising was bad, but who are you to assume they did?

More importantly, just because you're exposed to advertising it does not mean you need to pay attention to it. Unless you have an obsessive preoccupation with advertising. :lol:

[Draep]

Clearly he wouldn't want to, you use "'aint" and "gonna" repeatedly.

Also to have "sold out" would imply that these people would of previously held the value that advertising was bad, but who are you to assume they did?

More importantly, just because you're exposed to advertising it does not mean you need to pay attention to it. Unless you have an obsessive preoccupation with advertising. :lol:

Or maybe it's more like people like you are willing to sell the integrity of the game for money that you 1. won't collect on and 2. can't guarantee will be put back into the game. The ads are intrusive because you run into them no matter what, every time I go through the door of the HART building, I ain't gonna force myself to look down.

Still having trouble with your vocab words? How about you "ain't" gonna get laid looking like some fat slob from 'Bama, even though you type beautifully. Please Mr. Grammarian, call out everyone who uses contractions, have a fucking type 2 diabetes attack every time someone uses "F2P, lol, j/k or ur ugly"

So you don't talk to me about shit either. Don't bother responding to me, I wouldn't want you to get sweaty.

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

I never really noticed the adds in PS1, so as long as they do it the same way idc.

[Draep]

Clearly he wouldn't want to, you use "'aint" and "gonna" repeatedly.

Also to have "sold out" would imply that these people would of previously held the value that advertising was bad, but who are you to assume they did?

More importantly, just because you're exposed to advertising it does not mean you need to pay attention to it. Unless you have an obsessive preoccupation with advertising. :lol:

What***39;s My Name (DMX) - YouTube

[Duddy]

Or maybe it's more like people like you are willing to sell the integrity of the game for money that you 1. won't collect on and 2. can't guarantee will be put back into the game. The ads are intrusive because you run into them no matter what, every time I go through the door of the HART building, I ain't gonna force myself to look down.

Still having trouble with your vocab words? How about you "ain't" gonna get laid looking like some fat slob from 'Bama, even though you type beautifully. Please Mr. Grammarian, call out everyone who uses contractions, have a fucking type 2 diabetes attack every time someone uses "F2P, lol, j/k or ur ugly"

So you don't talk to me about shit either. Don't bother responding to me, I wouldn't want you to get sweaty.

Haha, wow, so defensive! :rofl:

If you need to resort to fallacy whenever someone disagrees with you perhaps you should consider whether using forums (you know, a place for discussion?) is the right for you. :doh:

Anyway, ignoring the Ad Hominem, you can't guarantee where the money will go either. As a result your point holds as little weight as anyone else in this discussion, so I'd avoid taking the whole "high horse" route.

As for integrity, again you're implying that some stance was held in he first place. I'd like to see such proof, particularly considering the bar has been set that there is no such stance as a result of the ads in PS1.

Hell, you attack me even when I didn't even state my position! I'd actually be against ads unless they were integral to the F2P that has been hinted at. Even then, I too would want them to be unobtrusive, perhaps not for "integrity" but simply because... who likes adverts?

[Draep]

I apologize. I just talk to people how I would in person. I'm just trying to express that I am fundamentally opposed to in game advertising and though nobody on the forums has yet come out with the same view, I can't imagine I am alone in thinking it's tacky. If it is integral to the F2P system, alas I accept.

Gotta admit the DMX was a nice touch though right?

[Traak]

Sure, ads that are run-down blasted signboards with no animations and no sound. That would sell stuff better than "Hi, I'm a half-man, half field mouse" or whatever ads, I think.

[Draep]

sbsth

[Duddy]

I apologize. I just talk to people how I would in person. I'm just trying to express that I am fundamentally opposed to in game advertising and though nobody on the forums has yet come out with the same view, I can't imagine I am alone in thinking it's tacky. If it is integral to the F2P system, alas I accept.

Gotta admit the DMX was a nice touch though right?

Apologies for if what I said just wound up in anyway as well. :)

The problem with written text is that, bar use of emoticons, a large part of your body language is missed out. And it's this missing part that actually makes up a lot of how we communicate, and emoticons just don't cut the mustard. (So yeah, not a fan of text generally speaking)

And yes, the I found the DMX quite amusing. :lol:

As for the reason of our disagreement, don't be disheartened if people don't agree with you. The vocal majority rarely represent the silent majority, and besides I've seen enough to know that there are others here that agree with you (if not as vehemently!).

Keep it constructive and I'm sure you'll win others round. :cool:

[Sirisian]

It saddens me that you think the game will do so poorly with F2P that ads will be necessary. I didn't personally mind them in PS1, other than that they broke the immersion a little bit. It did seem to cheapen the game. If ads are necessary I think they should rethink their payment model.

[Graywolves]

They should be like youtube front page ads, quiet until you walk up to them and press a button and then it's all like "OLD SPICE! I'M ON A HORSE!"

[basti]

Lets make a shot into the blue here:

We know there are urban areas, means stuff like citys. Based on that, we can assume that the war broke out somewhat late, means the TR were all over auraxis for quite a while, having a somewhat peacful colony. Now, the thing with citys is that you have ads everywhere. Billboards, Big TVs, stuff like that. Its already there, so why not just damage the stuff a bit to let it fit into the war theme, and put ads on there. It would fit right into the game, and still produce cash.

[dsi]

If ads means no pay-to-win then a resounding hell yes from me. If it makes the gameplay better give me ads on my splash screen, launcher, and respawn menu, ads on billboards in cities and insets while riding as a passenger in a vehicle.

[Furret]

Maybe you guys use the HART building differently than I do, but when I go into the HART building I'm usually re-certing, changing up my favorites, boarding the HART, or redoing my implants, not dicking around staring at the walls looking for advertisements. The only times i'd be in the HART building with nothing to do is if i'm waiting for the HART timer, at which point i usually alt-tab and check facebook/psu for however long i have to wait.

And if you're as 'bombarded with ads' as you claim to be, you ought to have learned to ignore them.

[Crator]

If ads means no pay-to-win then a resounding hell yes from me. If it makes the gameplay better give me ads on my splash screen, launcher, and respawn menu, ads on billboards in cities and insets while riding as a passenger in a vehicle.

Hey guess what, they've stated several times they aren't putting a pay-to-win model in the game.

[Talek Krell]

People's definitions of what constitutes "pay to win" are demonstrably different though, and Smed's recent comments will surely have caused some people to cry foul.