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SuperMorto
2011-09-25, 05:45 PM
Hi all,

When PS1 came out, I had the game the day before its official release as the fool in the shop got the dates wrong haha! :groovy:

But at the time I had a poor graphics card, and I never could play the game to well. It wasnt my skill just a poor PC. But now im on the verge of building a monster of a PC and have recently upgraded my internet to 27mb download and 7mb upload, so I am more than ready to take PS2 on.

I just hope with all my hart, that I can play at a competative level and we have good servers all round. As today I went back to PS1 to give it a go and the last server is American. :( I think I would of got less lag sitting on the moon! :)

So please make it good folks!

Morto!
basti
2011-09-25, 05:46 PM
Okay, stop making pointless threats, kay? We have no use for trolls, we just remove them...
SuperMorto
2011-09-25, 05:57 PM
Okay, stop making pointless threats, kay? We have no use for trolls, we just remove them...

What are you on about pointless threats?

I'm not quite sure how you would normally treat new users, but its not looking to good sir.
Mirror
2011-09-25, 06:00 PM
Im from the UK and get a ping of 115-130 its fine.
NewSith
2011-09-25, 06:05 PM
Im from the UK and get a ping of 115-130 its fine.

That really isn't... I'm from Russia and I get 120-140. And I'm using ADSL1.
zuesrocks
2011-09-25, 06:08 PM
asking for no lag in a game, is impossible
FIREk
2011-09-25, 06:10 PM
Im from the UK and get a ping of 115-130 its fine.

Ever since I upgraded from a 115.2kbps connection, a 115-130ms ping has stopped being "fine". :p I don't know how I could have managed to play Q2CTF for years on a 36.6 modem back in the day... ;)
Mirror
2011-09-25, 06:11 PM
That really isn't... I'm from Russia and I get 120-140. And I'm using ADSL1.

Like 95% of the people that play PS from the UK have the same ping. Im begining to wonder if people on these boards actually played PS 1 beyond the 2nd month of release.
SuperMorto
2011-09-25, 06:17 PM
Whooooooo hold on I never said it was all bad!, Thing is it was a combination of things that let me down, bad graphics card to start, then good card bad connection, then good card/good connection "BFRs" and by that time, I stop playing.

I did try to play PS1 today with a system that can handle the game no problems, but for some reason, the American server, just owned me. I would say im above average FPS player, but I could never get the balance right. Im more than sure it was Warner I played on, it wasnt to bad, but my graphics card was poor. And I always pushed it to far as the game looked great at high rez :) and I couldn't help myself.

Also playing today I noticed my Razor mouse seemed a little twitchy. But saying that I aint played for years.

Morto.
SuperMorto
2011-09-25, 06:21 PM
Just logged into server and ping was bouncing between 99-110, that isn't great considering on a European server you would get 20-40 or less.
Mirror
2011-09-25, 06:35 PM
Just logged into server and ping was bouncing between 99-110, that isn't great considering on a European server you would get 20-40 or less.

The problem with the euro server was it sucked. It was full of plasma..kinda like how gemini is today and like only 10 people could play on it before it fell over.
basti
2011-09-25, 06:57 PM
The problem with the euro server was it sucked. It was full of plasma..kinda like how gemini is today and like only 10 people could play on it before it fell over.

Are you insulting my Werner? :mad:
Hamma
2011-09-25, 08:01 PM
Okay, stop making pointless threats, kay? We have no use for trolls, we just remove them...

He's a new member and not trolling, be nice.

That being said this topic is rather vague ;)
Crator
2011-09-25, 08:06 PM
If you're asking for no lag for PS2 then you should be getting a server closer to you then the current PS1 server.
Brusi
2011-09-25, 08:33 PM
hope with all my hart

If this was not an intentional pun, then it's awesome (still kinda funny either way).
Graywolves
2011-09-25, 08:43 PM
If this was not an intentional pun, then it's awesome (still kinda funny either way).

No HART in PS2, don't hope with that.
ikon
2011-09-25, 08:51 PM
i barely lagged when i played ps1 on 56k

i'm sure they can handle this is 2012.

nn more posts like this
Talek Krell
2011-09-25, 08:51 PM
No HART in PS2, don't hope with that.
Tear his HART out why don't you?
cellinaire
2011-09-25, 10:26 PM
Don't you guys all know the power of ForgeLight™ ? =)

(and T-ray rocks lol)
NapalmEnima
2011-09-26, 01:03 AM
Lag: The delay created by the time it takes for a message to come from client A to the server, be processed, and go to client A-Z.

There's really no way around "ping" time. But what you can do is:
A: Prediction. "A body in motion tends to stay in motion", and all that. Lots of games do this, IIRC.
B: Cut out the middle man. I suspect PS2 will give each client a list of players to update directly rather than round-tripping to the server. They wouldn't need to send everything to these other players that is normally sent to the server, just the stuff needed to draw a given player in the right spot, doing the right thing[s]. The server can veto things, but this could result in much smoother player rendering for X other players.

So who do you send the extra info to? Most importantly other players aiming at you. People in your squad who can see you are likely candidates as well, though less important than folks trying to shoot you.

You do NOT want to send your information to folks who cannot actually see you at the moment. That's a great way to give cheaters information they can use against you.

You can determine how many different players you send direct updates to based on a bandwidth test, and you can store the results of that test with a MAC address (the ID built into each network card) so you don't have to run the test more than once.

"B" is all wild speculation, but gosh wouldn't that be cool.
SuperMorto
2011-09-26, 02:28 PM
This post was more about the fact i never had the equipment to play PS1 decently, so im hoping now I have that a good server will be available for us folks here in the UK.

As now I can play PS1, but the server sucks ass.
NapalmEnima
2011-09-26, 02:33 PM
This post was more about the fact i never had the equipment to play PS1 decently, so im hoping now I have that a good server will be available for us folks here in the UK.

As now I can play PS1, but the server sucks ass.

PS1 was way ahead of average availability in terms of PC hardware and network connection. I know I upgraded my PC specifically to play PS1.

I already had the broadband connection from my Tribes 2 days. I remember the first time I brought up the server list after getting it hooked up. Huge Grin. Pretty sure I "Woo hoo!"'ed.
TacosWLove
2011-09-26, 03:01 PM
I too hope my new PC and interwebs can play PS2 :D Cuz ive got, hiiiiigh hope, Hiiiiigh hopes...


We are just stating our hopes in this thread rite? Cuz wit mah Sandy vagina 2600k and a GTX570 paired with a 24Mb connect I should be able to fly my desk closer to the server for better pings, i mean hell what else is a 200mm fan good fur?
Crator
2011-09-26, 06:36 PM
Sandy vagina

I always liked Tacos and sandy vagina. Mmmm, good. :P
Brusi
2011-09-26, 10:05 PM
Does SandyVag actually give that much better performance? My current rig is an absolute monst0r but based on a pre SandyVag Rampage 3 extreme mobo.

I wouldn't dream of upgrading again so soon... unless i knew Planetside 2 could be better ;)

Ah well, i assume it will be my 250ping for Aus which will be my primary bottleneck anyway.
Traak
2011-09-28, 01:56 PM
ESPECIALLY because hart is obsolete English for a type of deer.