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Destroyeron
2003-03-03, 07:45 PM
Who knows how to install a Geforce4 4600 8x into a Gateway? If you need something else on how to please tell me. Is there a differnce between a Geforce4 4600 and a geforce4 4600 8x? cause I ordered a geforce4 4600 and got the 8x one...

Timormi
2003-03-03, 08:22 PM
they are prolly the same thing, but you might wanna contact NVIDIA for info on it and how to install it....:rolleyes:

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-03-03, 08:24 PM
I didn't even know they had a 8x AGP version of the 4600. I know they have one for the 4800 and the 4200.

ABRAXAAS
2003-03-03, 08:26 PM
a 8x will not fit a 4x slot, you will ahve to send it back :( or get a new mobo

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-03-03, 08:32 PM
well that's not entirely true. Check if your motherboard is 8x compatible. Chances are you can run it but it will run at 4x not 8.

ABRAXAAS
2003-03-03, 08:35 PM
yeah it will work if your mobo is 8x compatible , if its not you'll know right away it wont fit 8x requiersa longer slot;)

TGF NightHawk
2003-03-03, 09:01 PM
This should be in the tech forums...powda could hook you up, most likely!!:thumbsup:

powdahound
2003-03-03, 09:53 PM
You'll have to check to see if your mobo supports it. Usually it's better to do this research BEFORE you actually buy the thing... lol. :) I also didn't know they had a 4600 8x agp... Anyway, check your mobo (call Gateway or something) or just put it in and see if it works! If it doesn't, send it back and get a 4x. :)

ABRAXAAS
2003-03-03, 10:07 PM
if you can avoid buying the 4600 8x they have slower performance than the 4x and thats because there is no programs that are demanding enough to use it so its just gives you reduced performance ,a real waste untill doom3 comes out ,oh and unreal2 it will work better with unreal 2;)

powdahound
2003-03-03, 11:09 PM
I highly doubt that 8x would make it any slower... It shouldn't have any problems running at 4x at all.

OneManArmy
2003-03-03, 11:32 PM
yea.. uhh.. what the heck guys... All AGP slots are the same. If the MOBO does not support 8x then it will run at 4x. And quite honestly there is no damn improvement from 4x to 8x...

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-03-04, 01:17 AM
There aren't any improvements because games and programs don't take advantage of it. In alot of tests running at 8x was worse than 4x by 1 to 2%.

Sputty
2003-03-04, 01:32 AM
Well, some video cards(the 4800 for one I believe) require 8X and won't work on 4X I think. Not sure if 4X will work on 8X slots

Destroyeron
2003-03-04, 05:05 PM
I didn't order the 8x one, but thats what they sent me.

ABRAXAAS
2003-03-04, 05:11 PM
A 4x will fit in a 8x slot a 8x will not fit in a 4x slot .
and all the benchmarking I have seen actually shows slower performance .

Zatrais
2003-03-04, 05:28 PM
fit? the physical size of the APG 3.0 slot is the same as AGP 2.0.... As for the AGP speed, all AGP 8X cards are backwards compatible whit agp4X....

Saying you need a AGP 8 board whit a AGP 8X card is like saying you need a DDR 400MHZ board to run 400MHZ chips.... You can turn down the speed yourself.

ABRAXAAS
2003-03-04, 05:31 PM
Then why is my agp slot on my ASUS A7N8X deluxe longer than the agp slot on my old motherboard it even has a tab to remove before placing in the 8x graphics card so it fits.

Zatrais
2003-03-04, 05:49 PM
You must have a wierd board then becuase none of the A7N8X boards that i've seen has a tab of anny sort or a larger AGP slot than the AGP 2.0 and 3.0 size...

http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20021111/images/asus-board.jpg

Thats a stock A7N8X board, can't see anny tabs or a larger than normal AGP slot there....

edit: figured i should add, ASUS conforms to the agp 3.0 standard whit all it's AGP 8X boards, i own a AGP8X asus board and theres no tabs or larger slot on that.

OneManArmy
2003-03-04, 06:04 PM
ALL AGP SLOTS ARE THE SAME!!!! WE WENT OVER THIS!!!! THE SPEED IS DETERMINED BY THE BIOS ON THE MOBO.


4x 8x or even 2x is a software thing not a hardware.... sheesh.... if there is some extra tab its for locking the AGP card into the slot(completely useless) and thats it... but they will all fit fine.... Just dont try and jam it into a PCI slot...

Destroyeron
2003-03-05, 04:02 PM
Can someone post a pic on an APG slot?

Zatrais
2003-03-05, 04:44 PM
Look at the pic i posted... the black slot right to the 6 white slot is the AGP slot.

Destroyeron
2003-03-05, 05:28 PM
what pic? :confused:

Zatrais
2003-03-05, 05:31 PM
http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20021111/images/asus-board.jpg

Lexington_Steele
2003-03-05, 05:34 PM
so a AGP slot looks like a hammer with some text :p

Zatrais
2003-03-05, 05:36 PM
I see a screenshot of a asus A7N8X when i click the link....

Lexington_Steele
2003-03-05, 05:42 PM
The rest of us are seeing a Tom's Hardware Guide logo.

Zatrais
2003-03-05, 05:44 PM
http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20021111/nforce2-03.html

here then, scroll down and see the pic.

Destroyeron
2003-03-05, 06:05 PM
I still get the hammer...rofl

Zatrais
2003-03-05, 06:06 PM
ah ffs, screw it.

Maus
2003-03-05, 06:15 PM
*pokes destroyeron with a scroll bar*
the piccies r at the bottom =)

Sputty
2003-03-05, 06:22 PM
All I see are two pics, one containing audio jacks and the other DIMM slots

Destroyeron
2003-03-05, 06:23 PM
Yeah, great er....pathetic minds see alike. *grins at Sputty*

Zatrais
2003-03-05, 06:25 PM
Well for me there are 2 pics before that, 1 of the box and of the motherboard.. look at the webpages source if you don't belive me =P

Destroyeron
2003-03-05, 06:33 PM
forget it, google roxxors your boxxurs and my suxxors to luxxors please forget the xxors