Empire Brief New Conglomerate

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-empire-brief-new-conglomerate-2603.htm

[Graywolves]

Bah beat me to it. I was looking at GW2 stuff and was like "ooh new tweets."

[krnasaur]

Look at the reaver in the backround, does that mean the design from http://hosting11.imagecross.com/image-hosting-61/255reaver-psn-exclusive.jpg

is scrapped?

[KCTitan]

Very nice.

[Raymac]

Look at the reaver in the backround, does that mean the design from http://hosting11.imagecross.com/image-hosting-61/255reaver-psn-exclusive.jpg

is scrapped?

Doesn't appear to be scrapped, but maybe slightly tweaked. It's still very very similar. I think the biggest thing is that it is just from a different angle so we can get a better view of it.

I've been waiting a long time to see it, and I am not disappointed at all. I'm gonna enjoy flying the new and improved Reaver.

Don't fear the reaper, but fear my Reaver!

[Mastachief]

That reaver looks hardcore and i'm excited at the haunches of the vanguard

[FastAndFree]

I think I liked the new-old Reaver better :( (I'm just setting myself up for a faceplant if they are indeed the same...)
This one definitely conjures up images of an attack helicopter, as opposed to the Mosquito which looks somewhat fighter-ish

Oh well, not my place to judge it now anyway.

... but a bigger picture of it would be appreciated :) Zoom in and enhance!

[T-Ray]

Look at the reaver in the backround, does that mean the design from http://hosting11.imagecross.com/image-hosting-61/255reaver-psn-exclusive.jpg

is scrapped?

same design

[Raymac]

I think I liked the new-old Reaver better :( (I'm just setting myself up for a faceplant if they are indeed the same...)
This one definitely conjures up images of an attack helicopter, as opposed to the Mosquito which looks somewhat fighter-ish

Oh well, not my place to judge it now anyway.

... but a bigger picture of it would be appreciated :) Zoom in and enhance!

Some of the cues I was looking at were:
1) the tail, I always suspected the reaver was a bit longer because the old pic seems to hint that the tail is set back.
2) The engines seem to be int he same place, esecially in relation to the wings.
3) the frame of the cockpit window is similar, but maybe shortened slightly
4) The 2 small vents on either side of the nose (which I thought might have been rocket launchers) seem to be in the same spot.

The only difference I can really tell seems to be in the nose, but that might just be because of the gun location now, which looks awesome btw.

EDIT: Plus what T-Ray just said haha

[Aaron]

As expected, the N.C. are the all out heavy assault empire; possibly more then before.

[Manitou]

Is that the tail end of a Vanguard on the left side edge of the picture?

[Captain B]

Oh my God I cannot wait for the rest of time. I want the weeks to come.

[Raymac]

Is that the tail end of a Vanguard on the left side edge of the picture?

Looks like it, and maybe a Vanny turret in between the 2 soldiers?

[Redshift]

This guy is clearly a spy....
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg877/scaled.php?tn=0&server=877&filename=7qld.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/uploads/dcsclient/000/000/000/522.jpg?v=90.3

[Tapman]

I am so excited. NC are the true rebel freedom fighters that draw the best warriors. Our equipment might not shoot as many bullets or be as technologically advanced but corporate people know how to solve problems if they are saving their own and their families' collective ass. We don't need all of those extra bullets or Vanu technology, we work on the philosophy of aim small, miss small and we attract the skill to follow through. Our gear is going to be awesome.

Higby/T-Ray, we have seen concept art/snapshots of the MAX suits and some vehicles but when are we going to get the 3D character modeling for them? I am stoked for all of our weapons and armor but I want more on my MAX and Vanguard!

[basti]

What do my eyes see? Right, Food for our Hungry hungry Energy weapons! YOU SHALL BURN NC! VANU WILL PREVAIL!

[Gandhi]

Are you sure the theme isn't racial diversity week?

The Reaver looks great, can't wait to see the finished Scythe :D

[mbarrett]

NC for life, my blood is blue through and through . there's nothing better than kicking the TR' s asses . and im sick of how everyone goes to play TR with their stupid global pop all of the time , this time players will wake up and see the TR for what they really are , shit weapons . crap max units and a weak tank that's bark is worser than its bite !

[CrystalViolet]

The Reaver does look quite sexy. I'm going to miss piloting the old bird, but I guess I'll have to adjust to shredding them with my Scythe.

[HELLFISH88]

This guy is clearly a spy....
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg877/scaled.php?tn=0&server=877&filename=7qld.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/uploads/dcsclient/000/000/000/522.jpg?v=90.3

But for which side? :x

Stereotypes are hilarious.

[QuakCow]

The guns seem...large. And yay! vanguard butt!

[HELLFISH88]

The guns seem...large. And yay! vanguard butt!

http://voomvu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Dat-Ass.jpg

[MooK]

http://pxoink.net/files/ncsig2.png

[Xyntech]

Yeeha! New Reaver pic! If you look closely at this and the PS Next Reaver, you can tell they are the same. It's just like the Mosquito though, where even though the design didn't change too much, it looks significantly different from this other angle. At first I thought that the engines were now out on struts, more like the original Reaver, but on closer inspection, you can see that the engines are up against the body and that there are just some added missile pods on the wings, similar to the Mosquito missiles we have seen.

Interesting that the old PS N Reaver pic looked like it could have been a two seater, but clearly this isn't the case from this new angle. Funny how perspective can trick the eye like that.

Now where's the Dyson? I gotta see what I'm giving up the Reaver in exchange for. Gotta see what I'll be tearing those Reavers and Mosquitos apart with :D

[Captain B]

Before:
http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu157/cardiffgreens/PC%20Gamer/PS2_pcgamer003.jpg

After:
http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/uploads/dcsclient/000/000/000/522.jpg?v=90.3

I'm guessing the asian's got the heavy-hitting, slower-firing, longer-ranged Gauss and the other dude in the first pic's got the basic AR version? Wonder what the carbine'll look like...

Oh, wait:
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/6i3qqg.jpg

[Hamma]

One thing to remember about that Reaver screenshot we got at the beginning of the year is that it was without any weapons on it, it was not even inside of the game.

[SuperMorto]

same design

Beat me to it, its the same design folks, if you look the Reaver it has 2 little wings on the new picture, but looks like it has 4, but its the engines. Also the first picture has the landing gear out and no load-out. And the first picture you cant see the rounded underbelly of the ship and an extra dome, oh and a big fucking gun! :)

It also has 2 horns, you can see 1 on the new picture, but the old one they blend in with the angle its shot at.

So all I can say is hold shit, you can really change the look of your vehicles.

[SKYeXile]

i think the cockpit is slightly different from the one we saw earlier, probably because of the change from 1 seater to 2.

this is a photoshop of that original with the landing gear up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/SKYeXile/nogear.jpg

[Graywolves]

But for which side? :x

Stereotypes are hilarious.

He's a Vanu spy!

And he's a very damn good one apparently.

[Captain1nsaneo]

http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/uploads/dcsclient/000/000/000/522.jpg?v=90.3

Is it just me or does that guy look like he's off balance? Seems like there's a bit too much weight out front.

[Biscuit]

i think the cockpit is slightly different from the one we saw earlier, probably because of the change from 1 seater to 2.

this is a photoshop of that original with the landing gear up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/SKYeXile/nogear.jpg


could be tweaked abit visual, but i remember them saying that Vehicles will have customized loadout(s)

so in a wild guess, that could be the same chasis but with a couple of components installed making both reaver's different.

the new-new reaver = noticed the mini-chaingun on the bottom, could be for anti-infantry/veh purposes including two missle racks for anti ground vehicles.

the new-old reaver= maybe the two large components on either side of the cockpit could be missle containers for Air vs. Air confrontations (ala wasp)
and the smaller looking nozzle on the bottom would be also for Air vs. Air bullets? (shame on me if not making sense)

[SniperSteve]

The NC guns are HUGE, and look way out of proportion. Tone it down to 90% original size, keep the idea that it is big, loose the fact that it is too large.

Edit: Maybe as far as 80%...

[Traak]

Possible Vanu weapons?

Men In Black -- The Noisy Cricket - YouTube

Interesting that the flash hider or whatever it is at the end of the NC rifle is pointed down, thus increasing the amount of muzzle flip when the weapon is fired.

Some AK's were designed with the opposite idea in mind: actually REDUCING muzzle flip.

http://images.wikia.com/superfanon/images/9/99/Ak47bayonet.gif

The relatively rare "shovel nose" AK's had the flash hider cut away so the gases would be propelled a bit more upwards than downwards to reduce climb when firing in fully automatic.

Evidently the NC are so macho they have the muzzle rise increased. :D

[Zulthus]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390550_272948222749796_209775182400434_851024_1711 539845_n.jpg

Open in new window for full size

[Hamma]

Posted in main news post, and here!

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1711

[atone]

not really feeling the nc helmets. though this one is missing part of the face mask

[Graywolves]

that nc with the jumppack looks sexy

[SavageB]

No rexos?

[Captain B]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390550_272948222749796_209775182400434_851024_1711 539845_n.jpg

NC WITH JET PACKS?!? OH YOU DONE GONE FUCKED UP NOW VANU!

[Sifer2]

Surprised they went with the raw firepower design for them again. Since to me that always seemed like it offers a distinct advantage in FPS. Though I guess if they are going with a faster TTK CoD approach this time then it wont be as much an advantage as it was before. Since spray an pray will be stronger.

If the Reaver is only for NC then i'm now curious what Air vehicle is Vanu specific.

[T-Ray]

I am so excited. NC are the true rebel freedom fighters that draw the best warriors. Our equipment might not shoot as many bullets or be as technologically advanced but corporate people know how to solve problems if they are saving their own and their families' collective ass. We don't need all of those extra bullets or Vanu technology, we work on the philosophy of aim small, miss small and we attract the skill to follow through. Our gear is going to be awesome.

Higby/T-Ray, we have seen concept art/snapshots of the MAX suits and some vehicles but when are we going to get the 3D character modeling for them? I am stoked for all of our weapons and armor but I want more on my MAX and Vanguard!

coming real soon ;)

[Captain B]

...I just realized that armor looks like football padding painted gold and blue.

That's just how NC rolls. *Middle of a football game* "What? We're going to war? Game over, bros. We gotta' go kill shit." *Busts out the paint* "Suit up!"

[TheHalekTheory]

so, the TR are like England, the NC are like the Americans, trying to win freedom from the TR, and the VS are like the Japanese, with they're electronics and make out parties?

[SKYeXile]

so, the TR are like England, the NC are like the Americans, trying to win freedom from the TR, and the VS are like the Japanese, with they're electronics and make out parties?



VS are Ze germans, Supier tech and the master race, but the technology is untested and clearly faulty for war conditions...eg: tiger tank, aka: mag.

Also, TR = republic and NC = Rebels...ITS STAR WARS PEOPLE!.

[SKYeXile]

Possible Vanu weapons?

Men In Black -- The Noisy Cricket - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTqxFIpc1j4)

Interesting that the flash hider or whatever it is at the end of the NC rifle is pointed down, thus increasing the amount of muzzle flip when the weapon is fired.

Some AK's were designed with the opposite idea in mind: actually REDUCING muzzle flip.

http://images.wikia.com/superfanon/images/9/99/Ak47bayonet.gif

The relatively rare "shovel nose" AK's had the flash hider cut away so the gases would be propelled a bit more upwards than downwards to reduce climb when firing in fully automatic.

Evidently the NC are so macho they have the muzzle rise increased. :D

Would the base the case if it was a gauss rifle still though? i would have thought there would be relitivly little kickback...though newton may have another theory.

[Marth Koopa]

NC WITH JET PACKS?!? OH YOU DONE GONE FUCKED UP NOW VANU!

I'll go Tribes on your ass, son. Our jet packs will be sexier and fart purple ribbons!

[Tapman]

coming real soon ;)

Thanks for the reply! Btw when are they going to let you guys have more freedom to get into details with us in general? Strictly after Beta starts or is announced? Are you periodically taking (as much as you have time to see) what we talk about here into consideration and discussing it internally and just not ready to respond to the majority of it?

I know that you all have confidentiality agreements and nobody wants anyone to risk getting reprimanded but I guess it still feels like we are in the dark about the majority of the game especially given the complexity of its predecessor and the even bigger potential you are now working with. That said, we all definitely appreciate your active participation with the community thus far and I for one am excited to give SOE another shot at this awesome concept. I believe in all of you.

:wantbeta:

[Traak]

Surprised they went with the raw firepower design for them again. Since to me that always seemed like it offers a distinct advantage in FPS. Though I guess if they are going with a faster TTK CoD approach this time then it wont be as much an advantage as it was before. Since spray an pray will be stronger.

If the Reaver is only for NC then i'm now curious what Air vehicle is Vanu specific.

It's called the Scythe. search this website, you'll find the picture.

[Blakein]

Also, TR = republic and NC = Rebels...ITS STAR WARS PEOPLE!.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390550_272948222749796_209775182400434_851024_1711 539845_n.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u-VEqJQiH0I/S3NS_38scmI/AAAAAAAAAOU/n5nlLY20Gjo/s320/4.jpg

Check.

[Bags]

From what I've seen I really like NC so far.

[MGP]

Uhm... I'm a bit confused. In PS2 only NC will have reavers, and only TR will have mossy? Amirite?

[Zulthus]

Yea, and VS get the Scythe.

[Traak]

Uhm... I'm a bit confused. In PS2 only NC will have reavers, and only TR will have mossy? Amirite?

You got it right, and the VS plane is the Scythe.

There is no visual indication from them yet that any plane is common-pool. All the Galaxies we have seen are in NC colors, nothing in VS or TR colors.

As far as I'm concerned, if they had nothing that was common-pool, that would be fine. Just for the audibles. :D

[Higby]

From what I've seen I really like NC so far.

Thats right Bags... come right this way, I can get a bunk and a locker setup for you! All aboard the NC pwnage train!

[Brusi]

and a few spare boxes of velociraptor shells...

[CrystalViolet]

There is no visual indication from them yet that any plane is common-pool.

Libs have been confirmed as common pool. I believe Gals have as well. Would be cool if they gave us empire specific gunships some day down the road.

[Bags]

Thats right Bags... come right this way, I can get a bunk and a locker setup for you! All aboard the NC pwnage train!

NC:
Cooler rifle
Cooler plane
Cooler armor

TR:
Uhh...

[Zulthus]

Don't settle for plywood beds and small ass lockers, the VS have huge rooms with walk in closets, jacuzzis, free food, a King sized bed, and much more!

[Aractain]

NC:
Cooler rifle
Cooler plane
Cooler armor

TR:
Uhh...

TR is like your big sister, you don't want to disappoint do you?

[CrystalViolet]

Don't settle for plywood beds and small ass lockers, the VS have huge rooms with walk in closets, jacuzzis, free food, a King sized bed, and much more!

Vanu has a strict no Bronie policy.

[Higby]

Don't settle for plywood beds and small ass lockers, the VS have huge rooms with walk in closets, jacuzzis, free food, a King sized bed, and much more!

The VS have none of that, all they need is Vanu. Vaaaaannnnnnuuuuuuuuu. *Raises arms and lumbers around* Vaaaaannnnuuuuuu.

Bunch of zombies! Whereas NC has a kegger after ever battle and drinks out of the helmets of fallen elmos, come on, you can't beat that!

[Bags]

The NC smell nice.

[SKYeXile]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390550_272948222749796_209775182400434_851024_1711 539845_n.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u-VEqJQiH0I/S3NS_38scmI/AAAAAAAAAOU/n5nlLY20Gjo/s320/4.jpg

Check.

l knew from memory the helmets looked rather similar, but thats so close its not funny and why this post contains no lols, except that lol and this lol referencing the other lol...crap.

[Zulthus]

The VS have none of that, all they need is Vanu. Vaaaaannnnnnuuuuuuuuu. *Raises arms and lumbers around* Vaaaaannnnuuuuuu.

Bunch of zombies! Whereas NC has a kegger after ever battle and drinks out of the helmets of fallen elmos, come on, you can't beat that!

My tank is bigger than yours.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k517/ZulthusPS/wewin.png

[SKYeXile]

My tank is bigger than yours.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k517/ZulthusPS/wewin.png

you're aware the magrider energy shots will simply dissipate on the NC's armour and their shots will penetrate our armour and kill the driver in 1 hit yea?

Balanced.

[Bravix]

you're aware the magrider energy shots will simply dissipate on the NC's armour and their shots will penetrate our armour and kill the driver in 1 hit yea?

Balanced.

Wait...we have armor this time!?

SCORE! :D

[Bravix]

Vanu has a strict no Bronie policy.

This is a blatent lie. Have you not seen the "Friendship is MAGIC" Outfit we started?

My rank is Pegasus. nbd.

Edit: Double post, sue me >.>

[T-Ray]

What do my eyes see? Right, Food for our Hungry hungry Energy weapons! YOU SHALL BURN NC! VANU WILL PREVAIL!

oh yeah

[Grimster]

The VS have none of that, all they need is Vanu. Vaaaaannnnnnuuuuuuuuu. *Raises arms and lumbers around* Vaaaaannnnuuuuuu.

Bunch of zombies! Whereas NC has a kegger after ever battle and drinks out of the helmets of fallen elmos, come on, you can't beat that!


Ah fond memories of that. :)

[T-Ray]

The VS have none of that, all they need is Vanu. Vaaaaannnnnnuuuuuuuuu. *Raises arms and lumbers around* Vaaaaannnnuuuuuu.

Bunch of zombies! Whereas NC has a kegger after ever battle and drinks out of the helmets of fallen elmos, come on, you can't beat that!

sound like a bunch of drunks if u ask me

[T-Ray]

The VS have none of that, all they need is Vanu. Vaaaaannnnnnuuuuuuuuu. *Raises arms and lumbers around* Vaaaaannnnuuuuuu.

Bunch of zombies! Whereas NC has a kegger after ever battle and drinks out of the helmets of fallen elmos, come on, you can't beat that!

Thanks for the reply! Btw when are they going to let you guys have more freedom to get into details with us in general? Strictly after Beta starts or is announced? Are you periodically taking (as much as you have time to see) what we talk about here into consideration and discussing it internally and just not ready to respond to the majority of it?

I know that you all have confidentiality agreements and nobody wants anyone to risk getting reprimanded but I guess it still feels like we are in the dark about the majority of the game especially given the complexity of its predecessor and the even bigger potential you are now working with. That said, we all definitely appreciate your active participation with the community thus far and I for one am excited to give SOE another shot at this awesome concept. I believe in all of you.

:wantbeta:

we mainly talk mostly about the things that have been pretty much solidified. anything that is still in flux, I tend not to talk about. And then theres marketing that wants to release info and assets on a schedule. you have to understand that this is Sony and the fact that we are allowed to share all the things we have so far is amazing.

[Tapman]

we mainly talk mostly about the things that have been pretty much solidified. anything that is still in flux, I tend not to talk about. And then theres marketing that wants to release info and assets on a schedule. you have to understand that this is Sony and the fact that we are allowed to share all the things we have so far is amazing.

Hence my second paragraph. I am regularly amazed at how accessible you guys are and the increased flow of information lately compared to a just a few weeks/months ago despite reporting a vague timetable for general release and moot about Beta. As long as there is enough regular information coming out to spur the discussion around here then we should be able to stay distracted enough to wait for more. :)

I'm loving these NC Facts Higby, keep 'em coming! We may be a bunch of drunks but what does that tell you about the people playing for the other empires if a bunch of wasted rebels can still kick their asses? Nothing like drinking a beer in one hand and wiping the field on the 150mm with the other!

[MGP]

Yea, and VS get the Scythe.

Oh... that really sends game down the drain for me. I was a huge TR fan, and my favorite unit of all time was the Reaver... Now i can't have it. That's really sad.

[RedKnights]

This is a blatent lie. Have you not seen the "Friendship is MAGIC" Outfit we started?

My rank is Pegasus. nbd.

Edit: Double post, sue me >.>



....you're in the outfit I started?

[Corax]

Ok 1: NC Ultramarines.... Excellent!

2: Freaking love the NC screen shots.

3. Love more vanguards. From the 2 you see in these photos (1 screen left, 2nd between 2 soldiers) I definitely am liking the artistic course they are taking.

4. Weapon-Loaded Reaver looks fantastic. Reminds me of a cross between an apache and a fighter jet. Im wondering if they will have different varieties of rocket pods (single fire, barrage, hellstorm). As well as the underslung rotary gun. Which probably can be configured to rip threw armor or infantry..... What would be sick was if you could link all 3 weapon systems together for a solid blitz of munitions. A literally wall of projectiles...... Jackhammer style =)

5. Comparing the 2 new pics together I would almost venture to say that the Gauss Rifle being carried by the jump trooper and the foot slogger is actually just a standard assault (non-heavy) Gauss Rifle. Because we know jump troopers will be a light agile only troop with medium weapons. And he and the ground pounder are carrying what seems to be the same gun. So if I am right, what we have before us may just be a Gauss Rifle? Also, great news to have a picture for the new NC pistol. NC pistol is looking to be a gnarly magnum handcannon..... that thing is huge! Wonder what the Scat-Pistol will look like (if it is coming back at all). Also it looks like we got a visual for a different type of ammo clip. The pic with the single jump trooper looks as if his rifle has a drum clip, where as the pic with 2 troopers shows a standard 'sickle' or maybe 'box' clip.

As stated earlier..... NC helmet looks like Rogue Squadron helmet. Ergo NC = Rebels which means we win! NC > TR/VS. Its simple math really.
I mean.... do you want to look like a Beetle, A goofy Gas mask goggle sporting Nazi, or these kickass boys in Blue and Gold....

I mean really, when your looking down the barrel of these guns the last 2 things you think of will be, "I should have rolled a different empire", and "Ouch".

[Levente]

im a rocker so TR is for me, love the red and black hehe. Everything looks perfect so far, keep up the awesome job!

[Aractain]

If you think about it TR are all about curves, just like females. So TR likes females.
NC likes angular and square. Like film actor jaws! NC likes males.
VS likes other species that are not human. Thus VS likes.... animals?

Conclusive proof that you should roll all threee BAAABBYY yeah! I mean go TR!

(minor note: Nothing wrong with being gay, its just most of you (i.e. not females, not gay, not secure in your self) will feel uncomfortable when all your equipment has pictures of men on it. Just sayin)

[Corax]

Oh and also: If you want to see a pic of the TR sniper. Either watch the trailer and pause at 0:29 seconds. During the trailer you can also see the pulsar.

Here are screenshots of em. Sorry for the poor quality.
http://a.yfrog.com/img610/8721/ygsh.png (http://yfrog.com/gyygshp)

Tr Sniper or Common pool?

http://a.yfrog.com/img640/8199/vvgx.png (http://yfrog.com/hsvvgxp)
VS Pulsar!

[Bruttal]

That Pulsar looks sick but still waiting on our Lasher info, but considring TR hasn't seen there MCG and were yet to still see the jackhammer. this may be one of those things in "Flux" or Marketing issues as higbby said.

[Tikuto]

You know ... they actually look more awesome than the TR! :O

[Aractain]

Okay seriously now... The NC look like wannabe superheros. Why do you like them? I mean sure, they have an apacheReaver with an MCG on the front (thanks guys....) but the Mossy is so sleek and sexor!

TR look like real soldiers. From the future! At the very least the VS are in second place, how can you all be like "OMGAWDS NC 4 EVAR!". Is this all just because of Higbys hair? Really? Thats all it takes?

[Corax]

Is this all just because of Higbys hair? Really? Thats all it takes?


Yes

[FIREk]

Why in the world would the sleeves of "well maintained" uniforms be torn? It looked silly enough on the view model... :<

While I don't see the point in making stuff worn at all, considering it's all spawned from nanites (most likely), I can see the appeal of chipped paint on armor. NC pants and body armor are also kind of worn, but it's only the sleeves that not only look primitive (like flour bags instead of rip-stop or some other military-grade fabric), but they're also ripped and torn in places.

I won't be playing NC so I won't mind shooting those apparent space hobos, but that's a bit inconsistent, I think. ;)

[SKYeXile]

Oh and also: If you want to see a pic of the TR sniper. Either watch the trailer and pause at 0:29 seconds. During the trailer you can also see the pulsar.


http://a.yfrog.com/img640/8199/vvgx.png (http://yfrog.com/hsvvgxp)
VS Pulsar!

look at that sexy beast, working the bullet resistant spandex.

[Fab]

I think it's the sexiest gun we saw so far. The armor is nice too !
Can't wait to see the VS turnarounds

[Corax]

OK
Because I was watching the video again, I decided to dissect more info out of the trailer via screen shots. So here is some more screenage to drool over and see if you can glean any tidbits of info as we wait for NC week to role on!

http://a.yfrog.com/img614/5552/71nl.png (http://yfrog.com/h271nlp)
First. A better picture of the Pulsar firing =)

http://a.yfrog.com/img620/793/ncja.png (http://yfrog.com/h8ncjap)
Super Close up of Mossie cockpit

http://a.yfrog.com/img739/2161/mzbl.png (http://yfrog.com/kjmzblp)
NC Ironsights w/ muzzle flash .... killing some Barneys =)

http://a.yfrog.com/img858/7533/hudr.png (http://yfrog.com/nuhudrp)
NC Ironsights while he goes VS duckhunting.... Also check out the shell casing going screen right. Also note the explosions in the background. Not only firey, but it also throws up dirt / dirtcloud.

http://a.yfrog.com/img741/4923/1md9.png (http://yfrog.com/kl1md9p)
NC Pre-color application? Also, jump trooper with no ski-mask goggles but same helmet?

http://a.yfrog.com/img736/3333/n2s.png (http://yfrog.com/kgn2sp)
I chose this one cause it shows the first hint of vehicle wreckage. In the background is a wrecked magrider. Apparently it is on fire (note arrow). So perhaps instead of just instant vehicle husk. We now also have vehicles that burn after death providing a smokescreen as well as a hazard zone due to fire.

http://a.yfrog.com/img615/4401/58ig.png (http://yfrog.com/h358igp)
Great screen featuring more detail on part of the magrider. As well as ingame HUD of magrider (TRay mentioned on twitter to me that this is very much subject to change). Also note screen right for vehicle occupants. And thank you to shuttledem dude. This shot also features crosshairs, magrider projectile as well as compass on top side, speed (in Kpm). Bottom right of screen is Armor bar. Also this features perhaps our first look at the Language of Vanu! So now the VS can gab on about how they have their own language and recipes for the best grape kool-aide. Also note this screen gives you a great look at what some towers will be like. Note the semi-open air midsection. Should be interesting now for Towers of Doomers.

So here is some more info!..... Hope you all like it =)

[Fab]

great work!
Apparently i'm not the only one watching the video over and over again... ;)

It looks like this video show the same "map"/area than the NC picture that was just released. I love the style.

One thing about the magrider picture : you can see on the middle right a mignature of the tank, maybe for damages localisation ? Did we get some intel about damages on vehicles ? How was it in PS ?

[DarkSkyes]

Where is my MCG? I don't care about these smurfs or those pink barnies, Yes they do look pretty but i want to see my new MCG please.

Just sayin.

[Hamma]

Cool breakdown Corax!

I seem to remember the devs saying that NC got a facelift since that video, as you said more color application and updating.

And then theres marketing that wants to release info and assets on a schedule. you have to understand that this is Sony and the fact that we are allowed to share all the things we have so far is amazing.

Agreed! Many props to Smed and SOE for really letting the devs mingle with the community it is awesome.

Also to piggy back on the first part of your post this is also the reason we haven't been able to get a whole lot in the way of screenshots and media here at PSU.

[Redshift]

you have to understand that this is Sony and the fact that we are allowed to share all the things we have so far is amazing.

Aye sony do like to release games in a cloud of obscurity.

Maybe it's to keep down marketing costs... That makes sounds business sense :P

[kaffis]

Thats right Bags... come right this way, I can get a bunk and a locker setup for you! All aboard the NC pwnage train!
It's good to see that my concerns over all Higby's talk of his TR test character boding ill for his loyalty was unfounded.

and a few spare boxes of velociraptor shells...
I totally have to figure out which NC weapon system I'm going to nickname "The Velociraptor"...

[Doctor Digit]

So what are ya'll NC wanting to see most from the new SS and Video this week? Hell, It'd be bad ass to see a turn 360-degree turn around of a NC Max Unit. That or their heavy armor. Still hard to top the TR though!

[Geist]

NC:
Cooler rifle
Cooler plane
Cooler armor

TR:
Uhh...

I'd say only the rifle looks better, other than that:

The Armor looks like football gear, like someone has already say.

The Reaver in the picture provided is just meh compared to the new Mosquito(although i wish they would change the name to something more menacing).

A little disappointed in the new NC. They were the coolest looking faction in the original, but it looks like they went too far in the big and blocky direction over formfitting angles. Oh well, just my opinion, take it or leave it.

[Lonehunter]

Maybe it's to keep down marketing costs...

I wonder if we'll ever know the marketing budget in Planetside1.

I'm betting it was under $200, any other bets?

[Graywolves]

Be TR to be part of the greatest legacy of power! In the Terran Republic you will have a band of brothers who will fight side by side with you in battle! A brother you can count on, not like the VS or NC who will betray you for their own freedoms or a shiny new toy!


BE RED AND BLACK OR BE DEAD AND SAD!

[Trolltaxi]

Nice blue&gold paint on their armour! Looks sexy in a crosshair! :) And no plating on the stomach-area. Great!

A shot into the belly means a long and painful agony! And if you are patched, you will most likely die of sepsis. (Did you know that warriors with a belly wound was treated with a mixture full of garlic in the Middle Ages? They drank it and lay down. If the doc could smell the garlic around the wound some hours later, they knew it's game over for the fighter.)

[Quovatis]

The NC advertising of a kegger after every battle is enticing, but I'll stick to VS, even if they are religious nutjobs.

[CrystalViolet]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg864/scaled.php?tn=0&server=864&filename=lbaq.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[Captain B]

Ok 1: NC Ultramarines.... Excellent!


Ugh, to hell with Ultramarines and Matt Ward. They can BOTH die in a fire.


Okay seriously now... The NC look like wannabe superheros.


Generation Kill - Rudy Reyes Superhero - YouTube

WINNING = NC > TR = VS = FAIL

Live it, learn it, love it.

[GuyFawkes]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg864/scaled.php?tn=0&server=864&filename=lbaq.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

not too impressed with the smacktard helmet and WoW shoulders, but the sandwich looks great so not all bad.

[SKYeXile]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg864/scaled.php?tn=0&server=864&filename=lbaq.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

lol his lunch is so wrong.

[CrystalViolet]

not too impressed with the smacktard helmet and WoW shoulders, but the sandwich looks great so not all bad.

the squareness of the armor reminds me too much of low poly characters from the early days of 3D games. Maybe chamfering the edges, and curving the flat plains a bit more would help. The samich looks ok, but I don't eat meat, so I don't have much of an opinion.

[GuyFawkes]

lol his lunch is so wrong.
even the bread is OP , must be NC sandwich

[SniperSteve]

Wow, the structure in the cliffs there is really interesting...

[GuyFawkes]

Wow, the structure in the cliffs there is really interesting...

I half expected to see some sandmen lurking somewhere , looks like Tatooine

[TheRagingGerbil]

Wow, the structure in the cliffs there is really interesting...

^
| This.

Underground base?

[Trolltaxi]

NC has underground facilities - they've been living there since they betrayed Mother Republic. That's just to get used to their graves.

[Edelhonk]

the new NC armor make me laughing

especially their new "ski-googles"...omg...thats looks totaly funny like hell

I asking myself what will kill me first in PS2...the shots from the gauss or the hard laughing about NCs silly helmets...i bet on the laughing.

In PS TR had "Ze googles"...but thats over. Now they locking more like modern tactical sunglasses, especially the one of the TR-RExo helmet (PS2 TR RExo is still the most badass looking armor anyway).

Seems now the NC got clown-style... i mean their google look like skiing or diving googles from from the 1970s...omg lol.

[FastAndFree]

the new NC armor make me laughing

especially their new "ski-googles"...omg...thats looks totaly funny like hell

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1105/110705jarhead.jpg

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/italiansoldiersystem/images/4-soldier.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/sabretron/32271188tw9.jpg

[Missundaztood]

NC looking awesome. Rugged!

It's great to see the factions so far atheistically relating to their themes!

[Edelhonk]

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1105/110705jarhead.jpg

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/italiansoldiersystem/images/4-soldier.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/sabretron/32271188tw9.jpg

sry...but the sunglasses they "wear" on the first 2 pics look many more like the glasses on TR armor especially when you compared them to this pic

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/screenshots/mhigtweet.png

and even the last looks 100times better then the NC ones.

The NC looks more like this
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/be/beco-beginners-diving-mask-m-.jpg
with out the cover for the nose

[HELLFISH88]

Aye sony do like to release games in a cloud of obscurity.

Maybe it's to keep down marketing costs... That makes sounds business sense :P

Keeping marketing cost's down is exactly what hamstring Planetside in the first place.

What we have here is Advertising that SOE doesn't necessarily need to spend ten's of thousands of dollars just to get out. Their Development Teams and Fanbase do it for them. These are the people who are about the game the most therefore it ought to be the most effective.

[xSquirtle]

I still would like to see the NC max. I was not impressed with the concept art originally presented. Same went for the reaver, however the new photo of the reaver in the background made me quite happy.

Side note:

Comparing gear, weapons, and vehicles to things like other art designs, is getting ridiculous. Just face the fact that ever game imaginable, had some art guy base his entire designs off someone else's idea, to some extent. The more you make a bigger deal about every minor detail, the more you will always assume it's just another COD and Battlefield clone.

[cellinaire]

the squareness of the armor reminds me too much of low poly characters from the early days of 3D games. Maybe chamfering the edges, and curving the flat plains a bit more would help. The samich looks ok, but I don't eat meat, so I don't have much of an opinion.


All armors in this game should look exactly the same. Same old armors with only different color schemes would be great. And yeah I also don't like the squareness of the buildings and towers. Why even make the buildings square or rectangle? They remind me too much of the N64 days of gaming, what have the artists and programmers been doing last 8+ years I'm baffled. Is it because of dev team's laziness, maybe? blah blah blah....

[Erendil]

All armors in this game should look exactly the same. Same old armors with only different color schemes would be great. And yeah I also don't like the squareness of the buildings and towers. Why even make the buildings square or rectangle? They remind me too much of the N64 days of gaming, what have the artists and programmers been doing last 8+ years I'm baffled. Is it because of dev team's laziness, maybe? blah blah blah....

Couldn't disagree more. Giving each empire their own armour style just adds to their unique feel and gameplay-wise makes it easier to ID friend from foe.

Plus from a lore standpoint it makes sense that they'd look different since the armour is presumably coming from different sources: TR are using a conventional Republic armour whose design has been tweaked and perfected over the centuries, hence the form-fitting pieces and smooth edges. NC are using a more crudely-designed but pragmatic/functional design that's probably easier to make/repair, and the VS of course have alien-tech inspired armour. :cool:

As for the buildings... This is a colony planet, so you'd expect the architecture to be more primitive/simple and square, etc. Especially if they (I expect) used salvaged colony-ship parts for some of the architecture. Heck, the towers and base walls still have landing struts attached to them...! :p

[Halseth]

I dunno if I like the NC armor. It's very bright, and reminds me more of heavily armed football players. Some of it looks alright, but I liked the TR stuff a lot more.

Most interested in the Vanu stuff though, and it's more what I'm used to. Why do they always have to save the best for last?

[Zulthus]

That made me think... in the PS1 lore, weren't the bases and facilities already there when they arrived? And now the three empires are building them by themselves? Or am I missing something?

[SKYeXile]

eh Nm.

[EASyEightyEight]

Couldn't disagree more. Giving each empire their own armour style just adds to their unique feel and gameplay-wise makes it easier to ID friend from foe.

Plus from a lore standpoint it makes sense that they'd look different since the armour is presumably coming from different sources: TR are using a conventional Republic armour whose design has been tweaked and perfected over the centuries, hence the form-fitting pieces and smooth edges. NC are using a more crudely-designed but pragmatic/functional design that's probably easier to make/repair, and the VS of course have alien-tech inspired armour. :cool:

As for the buildings... This is a colony planet, so you'd expect the architecture to be more primitive/simple and square, etc. Especially if they (I expect) used salvaged colony-ship parts for some of the architecture. Heck, the towers and base walls still have landing struts attached to them...! :p

Think you missed the large amounts of sarcasm dripping off that thar quoted post, Chief :)

I imagine the NC armor isn't made for easy repair, but more so because it's probably the cheapest armor to make. "Your weapon is made by the lowest bidder." These ARE corporations after all. The mercs, patriots and volunteers probably don't get paid nearly as much as they deserve, but the latter two will probably line up to fight in droves in the name of freedom.

Their equipment wouldn't be top quality either. We'd be seeing super soldiers all over the place if the corporations of the New Conglomerate really invested into their troops. Instead they mass produce the AK2-8C33, a simple, hard hitting assault rifle, and conveniently don't spend as much on ammo because of its design.

NC will be about making what little they have count the most on a per shot basis of course. Just like last time :cool:

EDIT: I just realized while naming the NC rifle (heehee) that the date of the first armed conflict on Searhus is in the year 2845. These memos, and Connery's logs take place in the 2600s. So either people live a long ass time (believable actually) or the new leaders have long since strayed from the ideals of the old.

[HELLFISH88]

That made me think... in the PS1 lore, weren't the bases and facilities already there when they arrived? And now the three empires are building them by themselves? Or am I missing something?

They always reminded me of Molded Concrete so I'm going with giant Pre-fab molds.

[Erendil]

Think you missed the large amounts of sarcasm dripping off that thar quoted post, Chief :)

I imagine the NC armor isn't made for easy repair, but more so because it's probably the cheapest armor to make. "Your weapon is made by the lowest bidder." These ARE corporations after all. The mercs, patriots and volunteers probably don't get paid nearly as much as they deserve, but the latter two will probably line up to fight in droves in the name of freedom.

Their equipment wouldn't be top quality either. We'd be seeing super soldiers all over the place if the corporations of the New Conglomerate really invested into their troops. Instead they mass produce the AK2-8C33, a simple, hard hitting assault rifle, and conveniently don't spend as much on ammo because of its design.

NC will be about making what little they have count the most on a per shot basis of course. Just like last time :cool:


Haha, whoops! :huh: :bang: Yeah, I read his post as a standalone entity and not as a reply to the post he quoted. Completely missed the satire. That's what I get for posting while at work (sshh, don't tell anyone!).... :P~

But yeah.... What I said still stands. I think NC equipment would be easy/cheap to make and repair since they wouldn't have sunk money/resources into having either top-notch manufacturing or service centers....

Plus I'm guessing their stuff is made w/ simpler parts which would be inherently cheaper to create replacements for. Much like comparing an AK47 (NC) to an M4A1 (TR). In many ways actually, now that I think of it... manufacturing costs and tolerances, ease of use/maintenance/repair, weapon power/RoF, maybe even accuracy, etc


They always reminded me of Molded Concrete so I'm going with giant Pre-fab molds.

My memory is kinda fuzzy from back then (2003 was a helluva long time ago) but I seem to recall that the bases were indeed prefab'd and were already on Auraxis when humans arrived. not certain tho.

[CrystalViolet]

All armors in this game should look exactly the same. Same old armors with only different color schemes would be great. And yeah I also don't like the squareness of the buildings and towers. Why even make the buildings square or rectangle? They remind me too much of the N64 days of gaming, what have the artists and programmers been doing last 8+ years I'm baffled. Is it because of dev team's laziness, maybe? blah blah blah....

my post was constructive, yours was childish. I win.

[Missundaztood]

All armors in this game should look exactly the same. Same old armors with only different color schemes would be great.

Okay, but why do you think think this?

If I remember correctly a questionnaire was emailed to PS1 players RE changes they'd like to see in PS2. I specifically remember one of the multiple answer questions gave the option to vote for faction individuality!

Obviously many people wanted the same! The armour in PS1 wasn't incredibly different from one another really, I think very simliar.

In PS2 were hopefully looking at completely individual, distinguishable factions which is awesome!

[LordReaver]

After noticing this, I can't unsee it. The rock formation in the background on the right of the second picture, totally looks like a crying person.

[Missundaztood]

Maybe people are just looking into it to much? It's an NC with a gauss and jet pack on...tis all.

[FastAndFree]

sry...but the sunglasses they "wear" on the first 2 pics look many more like the glasses on TR armor especially when you compared them to this pic


Yes, but perhaps you missed that they both also have "ski masks" on their helmets?

[Traak]

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[Talek Krell]

That made me think... in the PS1 lore, weren't the bases and facilities already there when they arrived? And now the three empires are building them by themselves? Or am I missing something?They were. A lot of the expansion material was set up to look a lot like the planet sort of catering to the apparent desires of the people colonizing it. I'd noticed that it seemed like the facilities in PS2 were actually built by the colonists, and I've been wondering if maybe nanite construction doesn't play as large a role this time around.

After noticing this, I can't unsee it. The rock formation in the background on the right of the second picture, totally looks like a crying person.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110517172122/tardis/images/7/71/WA.jpg (http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Weeping_Angel&image=WA-jpg)Don't blink. ;)

[FastAndFree]

Don't blink. ;)

Why did you have to do that, man :/

[cellinaire]

my post was constructive, yours was childish. I win.

Can't say all your post in this thread were constructive, but I know my post was infantile, too. So I guess we're even now, right? :cool:

and "I win" ....whut?

[cellinaire]

Okay, but why do you think think this?

If I remember correctly a questionnaire was emailed to PS1 players RE changes they'd like to see in PS2. I specifically remember one of the multiple answer questions gave the option to vote for faction individuality!

Obviously many people wanted the same! The armour in PS1 wasn't incredibly different from one another really, I think very simliar.

In PS2 were hopefully looking at completely individual, distinguishable factions which is awesome!


Well, I was actually refering to a CViolet's post. Not that I want uniformity myself. Absolutely not =)

[Brusi]

lol his lunch is so wrong.

Seriously... is it a double decker sandwich made out of madeira cake?! wtf?

Higby's 3 year plan includes a triple bypass...

[Hamma]

not too impressed with the smacktard helmet and WoW shoulders, but the sandwich looks great so not all bad.

Glad I am not the only one who thought this about the shoulders :lol:

r33t purple shoulders?

[Mod]

Another image from Facebook:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/296650_273825892662029_209775182400434_853584_9949 33312_n.jpg

Although it does appear to be very similar to the first just from a different angle.

[CGar]

Loving the improvements, but the factions still have too much grey...

[Xyntech]

I'm thinking that the grey is there to provide a canvas for more in depth custom skin options. Hopefully we will be able to replace it with other neutral colors.

I know that black has always been associated with the TR, but a lot of VS armor in PS1 had black in places. Now those spots are replaced with a more greyish white color on the VS pajamas, which will probably be the underlying clothing on all VS armor if the TR and NC are any indication. Hopefully we will have the option to replace it with a blacker variant as a customization option.

[EASyEightyEight]

Neutral colors go well with just about every color, except each other in terms of white and black. Good god I just want to murder people who dress their characters in pitch black and bleach white simultaneously. It lacks personality AND it hurts to look at it.

[SKYeXile]

are you guys forgetting?

http://www.planetside2.com/news/sept27Art.html

looking that that grey is rather diminant in the NC and TR, but not so mkuch for the VS...there is porbably still to much grey in some of those though.

I wonder in ps2...will there be name plates or not.

[Xyntech]

I did forget about those, or more accurately, I forgot where I had seen them. Thanks Sky, you rule.

Hah! look at that shit. TR and NC both get some nice healthy doses of black to work with, while the NC get... Blue, gold and grey! Lmfao.

I hope the VS still get the option to have orange visors. Those were badass. I always liked the way the orange complimented the purple more than I liked the teal.

It's not like it infringes on the NC color scheme either, as long as you make it a more redish orange. Right between red and gold, just like purple is between red and blue, perfect.

[SKYeXile]

There was a fair amount of orange on the VS max concept, so i think SOE agree.

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/P/Planetside%202/Everything%20else/vs_max--article_image.jpg

[Xyntech]

There was a fair amount of orange on the VS max concept, so i think SOE agree.

That thing also sports the black piping between the purple armor plates, the way it's supposed to be. Shit, if the in game model looks half as good as that thing, I may have to take some serious time away from piloting and start using MAXes. Give me a new Scythe pic, quick! I must stick to the skies!

[Equinox]

Sweeeeeet

[Traak]

Would the base the case if it was a gauss rifle still though? i would have thought there would be relitivly little kickback...though newton may have another theory.

Well, they round is fired, according to Planetside lore, by a conventional case/cartridge, then is accelerated further by electromagnetic effects.