Higby Tweets Map

[Hamma]

First shot we've seen of a map..

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1754

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20111117_4ec5ab0f19883.jpg

[SgtMAD]

that map has controlled choke points on the roads between the bases

[Raymac]

COOL

Upper right looks like a warpgate, except there seems to be more structure there, possibly like the concept art we've seen.

[Hamma]

COOL

Upper right looks like a warpgate, except there seems to be more structure there, possibly like the concept art we've seen.

Yea first thing I noticed, structures within a warp gate.

And all sorts of structures along roads

[FIREk]

COOL

Upper right looks like a warpgate, except there seems to be more structure there, possibly like the concept art we've seen.

"Uncapturable footholds" for sure, conveniently placed within the safety of a warp gate force field. ;)

[Marth Koopa]

AWESOME

Looks like the worlds really will be more detailed than the first!

[Khellendros]

That bunker/tower in the lower right looks like it's in some sort of Hole-in-the-Wall structure, heh.

[Sifer2]

that map has controlled choke points on the roads between the bases


Sounds cool but if its true the Galaxy is a flying AMS this time I don't see how ground terrain would matter a whole lot. Unless you really need to capture the bunkers along the way to speed up the base hack time.

[Talek Krell]

Sounds cool but if its true the Galaxy is a flying AMS this time I don't see how ground terrain would matter a whole lot. Unless you really need to capture the bunkers along the way to speed up the base hack time.
Perhaps automated logistics will figure into the picture somehow? Practically speaking the roads wheren't all that valuable in the original game. Although if terrain has greater effects on vehicle handling that may be different.

[Roy Awesome]

Did anyone notice the sticky notes that say 'Dont Forget the Important'. Important what?

[duck]

Eh, I'm not a fan of the one-tone color scheme. It's too BF3-esque.

I liked PS1's ingame maps, they were colorful and easily shows terrain detail, etc. It would take me longer to decipher this type of map and figure out where to go, as opposed to a colored, detailed map like in PS1.

I also see no text or labels of any sort. Each base should have its own name like in PS1.

[Khellendros]

duck, I'm pretty sure that is nowhere near the finished version.

[Hamma]

Well it's work in progress, I doubt we are seeing the final map.

[xSquirtle]

Eh, I'm not a fan of the one-tone color scheme. It's too BF3-esque.

I liked PS1's ingame maps, they were colorful and easily shows terrain detail, etc. It would take me longer to decipher this type of map and figure out where to go, as opposed to a colored, detailed map like in PS1.

I also see no text or labels of any sort. Each base should have its own name like in PS1.

Its exactly what BF3 players and myself hated. Color that shit in!

[Vash02]

What are those speckles around the two bases on the left? I'm going to guess boulders. I dont think they are trees. if they are then what is with the green smudges at the bottom?

[SKYeXile]

Sounds cool but if its true the Galaxy is a flying AMS this time I don't see how ground terrain would matter a whole lot. Unless you really need to capture the bunkers along the way to speed up the base hack time.

Cause im gonna shoot those bitches down and if the terrain is then mountainous im then going to proceade to mess up your infantry.

[Xyntech]

Sounds cool but if its true the Galaxy is a flying AMS this time I don't see how ground terrain would matter a whole lot. Unless you really need to capture the bunkers along the way to speed up the base hack time.

That flying AMS is going to be an easy target to shoot down until you gain control of the outside of the base. If it lands, it will either be a ways away from the base, or it will be close by and an easy target to find and destroy. It's much easier to sneak a land vehicle close to a base than it is to sneak a giant aircraft in close.

I'm hoping Sunderers are the new land based AMS and that Galaxy spawning is just one option.

I imagine it will be pretty hard to capture a well defended base without bringing in some tanks as well, so choke points will probably be critical, while aircraft will allow for tactical insertions behind enemy lines.

[Sifer2]

That flying AMS is going to be an easy target to shoot down until you gain control of the outside of the base. If it lands, it will either be a ways away from the base, or it will be close by and an easy target to find and destroy. It's much easier to sneak a land vehicle close to a base than it is to sneak a giant aircraft in close.

I'm hoping Sunderers are the new land based AMS and that Galaxy spawning is just one option.

I imagine it will be pretty hard to capture a well defended base without bringing in some tanks as well, so choke points will probably be critical, while aircraft will allow for tactical insertions behind enemy lines.


Out of all that I only agree with Tank support. Not having Tanks will be a painful drawback for flying straight to the enemy base.

But generally no its not that hard to just fly straight there. Pretty sure that's been done in Planetside 1 for years. Unless they want to start putting unmanned AA turrets as part of the terrain you can control. Then you really would need to fight your way up the roads.

[SniperSteve]

Looks cool. I am sure the final map will be colored. Colored maps are where it's at. This is probably some sort of overlay layer for some special map effect or something.

[Raymac]

I asked Higby about the color on the map over twitter, and being the cool guy that he is, he responded:

he's just starting on defining a look for a certain type of map overlay - i'll post updates as it evolves!

So most important, it's in the early stages. Also it sounds like there might be a number of different overlays with the map. For example, I can't help but notice the large number of dots which makes me wonder if they represent soldiers on the battlefield.

Also I wonder if the lighter blue towards the bottom are clouds. If this is a "high altitude" view it would make sense that cloud cover would have a tactical effect, especially if the overlay is like a radar that would show troops and vehicles.

[Bags]

It's very blue.

[NivexQ]

Looks like a weather map to me. The green in the bottom would indicate rain/storms.

[Captain1nsaneo]

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4807/ps2map.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/ps2map.jpg/)

Sorry the words didn't convert as clearly as I would have liked.

[Trolltaxi]

On the left it is a hilltop tower or stronghold.

[Captain1nsaneo]

Check out the AMP station in the background of this pic. That wall layout lines right up with the base in the middle of the map.

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20111117_4ec570982edcb.jpg

[ShockNC]

It's very blue.

Higby already admitted that the NC own the world.

[MgFalcon]

It's an interesting change up from the last map scheme, I wonder if they have different modes for the map... From the looks of this one, it's either thermal (judging by the small amounts of green at the bottom), or the flow of nanites, which would be cool.

[TheRagingGerbil]

I'm guess Satellite IR view of a continent that is currently wrapped in darkness.

[FastAndFree]

Guys we are all missing an important detail here!

CARS IN THE BACKGROUND!
Enhance the license plate, run a background check

Track them, find them

[Sirisian]

Was hoping for just a 3D satellite map. This works too I guess.

[Canaris]

also what are those, well for want for a better word the glass bead looking things on the road south and west of the warp gate, I'm thinking those sand emplacement walls they have around bases.

http://cryptome.org/info/af-war-arch-1002/pict18.jpg


These map designs look great, all the little hamlets and towers around the main bases is making me giddy, I think I need to go outside and scream my joy.

[CutterJohn]

Its interesting how the "zomg future technology!" color shifts over time.

[SuperMorto]

DONT FORGET THE IMPORTANCE (DELL) OF SAVING?

I can imagine saving for these guys is a nightmare!

[Hamma]

Yea Canaris I was thinking the same thing - they look like temporary walls in place.

Looks like a weather map to me. The green in the bottom would indicate rain/storms.

I'm guess Satellite IR view of a continent that is currently wrapped in darkness.

This is exactly what I was thinking.


http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4807/ps2map.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/ps2map.jpg/)

Sorry the words didn't convert as clearly as I would have liked.

Holy crap! Imageshack keeps getting worse and worse as the years go on :lol: Nice breakdown though - the bases appear to be MUCH more varied this time around - and huge!

[SuperMorto]

Ive flattened the map out for a better look.

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/updatedmap.jpg

And some close ups.

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/001.JPGhttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/002.JPGhttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/003.JPGhttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/004.jpghttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/005.jpg
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/colour2.jpg
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/colour.jpg

[CutterJohn]

Super Troopers - Enhance - YouTube

[Baron]

The base in the Top left:

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/001.JPG

The CY pattern seems to resemble that of the AMP Station, the first base picture we got with all of the TR Mossies over the top

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/basescreenshot_trayoct.jpg

[SKYeXile]

The base in the Top left:

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/001.JPG

The CY pattern seems to resemble that of the AMP Station, the first base picture we got with all of the TR Mossies over the top

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/basescreenshot_trayoct.jpg

im not sure it does, the left side of the picture is more square than the right side, the map is perfectly symmetrical, but it looks like they both have that smaller CY out the back, and it could be an alternative base design.

[CutterJohn]

The base in the Top left:

The CY pattern matches that of the AMP Station, the first base picture we got with all of the TR Mossies over the top


That amp station has 9 battlements on its wall, the base on the map has 10.

[Baron]

why I said,

"Seems to Resemble"

[Xyntech]

Those bases are going to look so epic flying towards them at night, with everything all lit up.

Even more epic than they look in the day I mean.

[Talek Krell]

Didn't they say at one point that all the bases were somewhat hand crafted?

[SuperMorto]

Super Troopers - Enhance - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiqkclCJsZs)

IM PRINTING IM PRINTING!!!!! :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[Xyntech]

Didn't they say at one point that all the bases were somewhat hand crafted?

From the looks of things, I'd say that the big structures are the only uniform part, one for each of the three base types. The layout of the walls and the rest of the little little buildings and structures in the courtyard and surrounding the base are probably customized for each location.

Speculation of course, but what we have seen tends to suggest it as well.

Having more diversity in bases will be a nice changes of pace.

[Raka Maru]

Ive flattened the map out for a better look.

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/updatedmap.jpg

And some close ups.

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/001.JPGhttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/002.JPGhttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/003.JPGhttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/004.jpghttp://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/005.jpg
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/colour2.jpg
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/colour.jpg

Great job!!!

[SuperMorto]

Great job!!!

Well thank you very much sir :) you are so kind :D :love:

[Raymac]

After seeing SuperMortos awesome false color images there, I'm more convinced all those dots represent soldiers. Either that or the map has herpes.

And the new map seems noticably without dots which is interesting.

[HELLFISH88]

After seeing SuperMortos awesome false color images there, I'm more convinced all those dots represent soldiers. Either that or the map has herpes.

And the new map seems noticably without dots which is interesting.

They strike me more as tree's.

[SuperMorto]

After seeing SuperMortos awesome false color images there, I'm more convinced all those dots represent soldiers. Either that or the map has herpes.

And the new map seems noticably without dots which is interesting.

I mearley changed the colour scheme of things, no false stuff, just adjusting the origonal image to enhance anything we may not of seen.

That why I didnt make any comments so I didnt put myself in a big fooking hole :D

[Marth Koopa]

They can't be soldiers. Their sizes are inconsistent and they're too big.

[basti]

http://yfrog.com/z/nwze2rnj

Another picture of the map. Morto, ENHANCE!

[Captain1nsaneo]

http://a.yfrog.com/img860/5707/ze2rn.jpg

That right most base is definitely the AMP station we've been seeing. Looks like there's going to be a ton of bases per cont.

[SuperMorto]

http://yfrog.com/z/nwze2rnj

Another picture of the map. Morto, ENHANCE!

YES SIR give me 5 mins! BRB!!!

[sylphaen]

That lighting almost looks like a highlight overlay above a satellite map. Kind of like PS1 where you could select what to show over the map.

[SuperMorto]

Please bare in mind the quality of this picture is not up to scratch with the first, half the rez (from original).

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/map1.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/map2.jpg
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/map3.jpg

[SuperMorto]

Amp station = http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/ampstation.JPG

[SuperMorto]

Bases we have so far going of shape = :

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/001.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/002.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/003.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/ampstation.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/1of2.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/2of2.JPG
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/3of2.JPG

[SuperMorto]

Now for matches = :

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/1of2.JPG=http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/3of2.JPG
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http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/003.JPG=http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/2of2.JPG
=======================================
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/ampstation.JPG=http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/basescreenshot_trayoct.jpg
=======================================
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/001.JPG=nothing yet!?
=======================================
http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/002.JPG=nothing yet!?
=======================================

[Xyntech]

That right most base is definitely the AMP station we've been seeing. Looks like there's going to be a ton of bases per cont.

my thoughts in a nutshell

[Raymac]

I mearley changed the colour scheme of things, no false stuff, just adjusting the origonal image to enhance anything we may not of seen.

That why I didnt make any comments so I didnt put myself in a big fooking hole :D

No, I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood. I didn't mean false color as in "fake". I meant false color as in changing the color scheme to bring out more detail. It's the same thing astronomers do on images of galaxies and nebulas. Cool stuff, man. Very cool.

[SuperMorto]

No, I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood. I didn't mean false color as in "fake". I meant false color as in changing the color scheme to bring out more detail. It's the same thing astronomers do on images of galaxies and nebulas. Cool stuff, man. Very cool.

No problems then :D

[duck]

Updated map full screen, along with some interface on the left monitor.

http://yfrog.com/nwze2rnj:tw1

http://yfrog.com/z/nwze2rnj

[Khellendros]

Updated map full screen, along with some interface on the left monitor.


It looks like it may be the new equip screen, I see what look like weapon slots, but not sure what the circle thing in the center is, skill training perhaps?

[SKYeXile]

Updated map full screen, along with some interface on the left monitor.

http://yfrog.com/nwze2rnj:tw1

http://yfrog.com/z/nwze2rnj

hrm, notice all the small structures/casters are very evenly spaced apart, probably the control points for each hex grid.

[SKYeXile]

http://www.teamstarz.net/justimages/ampstation.JPG=http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/basescreenshot_trayoct.jpg

i think that map might be of that exact base, the surrounding structures correspond with what's on the map.

[Hamma]

Added! http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1761

[Higby]

i think that map might be of that exact base, the surrounding structures correspond with what's on the map.

You are correct.

[Ailos]

Am I the only one noticing that the bases seem closer to one another this time? I guess one way of speeding up combat was to get rid of boring transcontinental drives. Which I think works, it resembles the way our planet is tarting to look nowadays, the way metropolitan areas sort of blend into each other.

Even so, I don't see any definitive continental edges on that map, so at least we know it's bigger than a battle island (which is good!).

You are correct.

Damn, all you nerds that spotted that must've had your glasses/contacts subscriptions renewed recently.

[Higby]

Am I the only one noticing that the bases seem closer to one another this time?

Bases are a lot bigger is probably why it seems that way. The distance between large facilities is pretty much the same but there are a lot more outposts and control points inbetween and in the 'wilderness'

[Coreldan]

Bases are a lot bigger is probably why it seems that way. The distance between large facilities is pretty much the same but there are a lot more outposts and control points inbetween and in the 'wilderness'

I guess this is sort of too big of a question and something we'll have to wait a tad longer for, but how does that go together with the "everything is capturable/worth capturing"?.

Like, the bases seem even more kick ass now than they were before, but what is their worth in comparison to the land in between the bases?

I could figure land-area would be more for the resources, while a base could be for some other kind of benefits..

[SKYeXile]

I guess this is sort of too big of a question and something we'll have to wait a tad longer for, but how does that go together with the "everything is capturable/worth capturing"?.

Like, the bases seem even more kick ass now than they were before, but what is their worth in comparison to the land in between the bases?

I could figure land-area would be more for the resources, while a base could be for some other kind of benefits..

I would presume a base may control multiple hex grids, while a towwer may control 1-2 and these other outposts would jsut control one. Also the base may give you higher value resources, perhaps some at faster rate, not to mention if give you a proper defended spawn point for troops and vehicles, to spread your control further.

I do hope the game does not comedown to chasing ghost hackers the content trying to flip your shizzle and there is an incentive for taking points that are contested like PS1 or we will have another WAR on our hands.

[Coreldan]

Is there any nutshell information about the hexes? Read references to them a few times, but nothing really that actually explains em?

[SKYeXile]

Is there any nutshell information about the hexes? Read references to them a few times, but nothing really that actually explains em?

not really, but as far as i understand the hex grids are tied to the control points like a base, outpost, tower or something each hex will have different resources(Auraxium is one, i would guess titanium is another) on them that you need to upgrade weapons, armour and vehicles, possibly other things too.

Hex is also like the new lattice system, which with hex you can attempt to hack any base you like, hacking a base that you have no hex links to might take 15-30min, hacking a base that you surround with your controlled hexes may take only 2 min.

thats all i know.

[Coreldan]

Hmh, interesting.

I hope the time to hack a non-linked base is really long, gotta hate them ghosts taking random places in the middle of nowhere :D

[Ailos]

I hope the hacks are continuous hacking type procedures. I.E. you start the hack and two minutes later the CC is 25% subdued or something, and you have to go back to hack it some more to continue the process. Basically, there needs to be active presence of enemy personnel in a tower for it to stay a certain color, otherwise it could flip back to the color of the base it is attached to.

Or here is another idea.

Since towers are perma-linked to a specific base, their electronics can be hard-wired to be part of the base's telecommunications system. Thus, if you control the base the tower belongs to, you can hack it from within the base, without actually having to travel to the tower. That way, a defensive hacker can be sitting at the CC of the base and ensuring that nobody hack the surrounding towers.

When the assaulting army is trying to capture a tower as a nearby spawn point as part of their assault on a base, they could use tactical EMPs to temporarily disable the link between the tower and base, and give their hackers a chance of capturing it. Then, to prevent it flipping back, a similar defensive hacker has to sit at the CC and defend it from the base owners' attempts to recapture it remotely.

[NewSith]

http://yfrog.com/z/nwze2rnj

Why didn't anyone take a note of what's on the left. The thing really looks like class selection/customisation window...

[Khellendros]

Why didn't anyone take a note of what's on the left. The thing really looks like class selection/customisation window...

Ahem...

Updated map full screen, along with some interface on the left monitor.

It looks like it may be the new equip screen, I see what look like weapon slots, but not sure what the circle thing in the center is, skill training perhaps?

[NewSith]

Ahem...

If the discussion were hot I'd surely notice.

[MgFalcon]

It's an interesting change up from the last map scheme, I wonder if they have different modes for the map... From the looks of this one, it's either thermal (judging by the small amounts of green at the bottom), or the flow of nanites, which would be cool.

Called it.

[Elude]

Didn't they say at one point that all the bases were somewhat hand crafted?

I think I remember them talking about the terrain being manually molded rather then creating a height map and running it through some generator to create terrain like they did with the first game.

But I also think I remember them mentioning bases being more unique too so maybe you're right.

[Hamma]

Why didn't anyone take a note of what's on the left. The thing really looks like class selection/customisation window...

Apparently it's the vehicle terminal UI.

[Khellendros]

Apparently it's the vehicle terminal UI.

Yea, there was a nice closeup of that screen at the AGN tonight, I bet we are going to study that frame to death now. :lol:

[Raka Maru]

Ok, my turn to flatten the left side.