Let's talk about aircrafts.

[MGP]

So, now all 3 faction-specific aircraft are unveiled, we can start ranting about which is best at which.
Scythe is the most maneuverable aircraft, it "Rules the skies" (c) T.Ray. It's best at air-to-air combat.
Reaver is the flying tank, that will annihilate ground targets. It's best at air-to-ground combat.
And Mosquito is the... uhm... fastest aircraft. It's best at running away :rofl:

Amirite? :D

[Canaris]

*newspaper slap* No you're wrong, that's a bad mgp... BAD MGP!

Mossys are like Raptors, I wouldn't worry about the one you can see ;)

[NewSith]

My question on lib customization still remains!

[Coreldan]

Was it actually said that Reaver is the best air-to-ground? I recall them saying that they can all be fitted for all tasks, but given, Reavers strength is (something along the lines of) more armor and more/bigger guns, while trading away speed and maneuverability.

Well, I guess that would make it somewhat best in air-to-ground where maneuverability or speed isn't so necessary, as long as you can dish out some nasty damage while eating the anti-aircraft for a while :D

Perhaps I should try to learn to fly this time around.. Never got around to it in PS :D

[Xyntech]

Mosquitos being the fastest will make them great for organizing together, rapidly deploying and quickly getting in and out of a situation.

This will work great with the TR's whole "strength in numbers" thing, as a large group of Mosquitos will probably be more effective than a large group of Reavers or Scythes.

The Reaver will still be great in large groups though. I wonder about the Scythe. Surely it will rule the skies in 1 on 1 battles, but what about when you have 20 versus 20? Suddenly the armor advantage of the Reaver or the speed advantage of the Mosquito may win out.

Over all, I hope it comes down much more to skill. I like that the ES fighters are distinct, but I don't want any of them to be gimped in one way or another. Just slightly better or worse.

[SKYeXile]

Mosquitos being the fastest will make them great for organizing together, rapidly deploying and quickly getting in and out of a situation.

This will work great with the TR's whole "strength in numbers" thing, as a large group of Mosquitos will probably be more effective than a large group of Reavers or Scythes.

The Reaver will still be great in large groups though. I wonder about the Scythe. Surely it will rule the skies in 1 on 1 battles, but what about when you have 20 versus 20? Suddenly the armor advantage of the Reaver or the speed advantage of the Mosquito may win out.

Over all, I hope it comes down much more to skill. I like that the ES fighters are distinct, but I don't want any of them to be gimped in one way or another. Just slightly better or worse.

Skythe can be equiped with duel skillfires, it rules the skies, no doubt.

[CutterJohn]

While there are differences between the craft, I doubt it will be very much in practice.

Of course there will still be endless threadnaughts on them, with tons of spreadsheets and whatnot.

[FastAndFree]

I can't believe it took me this long to realize this, but it makes perfect sense that the Mosquito (and other assorted TR vehicles) are the fastest in their class.

They are painted red!

Brilliant, SOE :rofl:

[NewSith]

I can't believe it took me this long to realize this, but it makes perfect sense that the Mosquito (and other assorted TR vehicles) are the fastest in their class.

They are painted red!

Brilliant, SOE :rofl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PLBC687EA84E804572&v=b3CGTrEfFkA#t=316s

[Elude]

I can't believe it took me this long to realize this, but it makes perfect sense that the Mosquito (and other assorted TR vehicles) are the fastest in their class.

They are painted red!

Brilliant, SOE :rofl:

Red means nothing unless orks are using them!

[FastAndFree]

Red means nothing unless orks are using them!

And yet the TR proves you wrong

[HELLFISH88]

Red means nothing unless orks are using them!

It works because it is believed to Work... which yes, explains SOO much about the Terrans Now.

[BorisBlade]

Keep in mind, the speed differences are not gonna be that much when comparing base models of each. You wont get some hit and run vehicle versus one who can stay longer but is slower. Now if you customize a reaver with armor as the focus with less speed and skeeter with speed and less armor, then you could see a good difference hopefully, but in general when comparing similarly customized aircraft i dont think the difference will be very big, more like PS1 did with ES vehicles.

Think of the mbt speeds in ps1, a mag was about 20% faster than a prowler but in reality it didnt make much of a difference at all. If you got close to a prowler in a mag, he had way more than enough time to kill you before you could use your "speed" to get away or do anything useful.

Even lookin at the skeeter vs reaver in ps1, they handled quite differently but still, it wasnt insane and thats prob the difference in pS2 if you customize in the extreme while in general the base models will be fairly close. Its easier to balance like ps1 where the changes are small but noticable. Not enough to really decide a battle but they add some differentiation. Plus it lets customization be teh shining star, otherwise if they are too different on a base level, you end up customizing to compensate for your weakness just so you can compete.

[Xyntech]

I'm just thinking about how the Reaver will surely be able to customize for more armor, the Mosquito will undoubtedly be able to customize for extra speed, so all I can think of is...

How insane is it going to be to fly a Scythe that has been customized for even better maneuverability?

That shit is going to give you whiplash.

[Raka Maru]

I want my PHANTASM!!!

[Ailos]

Perhaps I should try to learn to fly this time around.. Never got around to it in PS :D

Not coming out of PS2's VR until I can do barrel rolls.

[SKYeXile]

Not coming out of PS2's VR until I can do barrel rolls.

Press B to barrel roll.

[Hamma]

:lol:

The most important new feature.

[FastAndFree]

If they handle more like helicopters than jets I can't wait to fraps all the people falling out of the skyHelicopter Fail

Although, it turns out, it is apparently possible to do a barrel roll with a helicopter.

Then again I shouldn't be surprised, model helicopters routinely fly upside down to show off, though I'm not sure if actual helicopters can handle that so well with their more complex fuel systems

[Blackwolf]

I think the Scythe would be wicked in packs, probably better then Mossies with their speed advantage.

Think about it, when you see a murder of crows or any other swarm of anything, what are you watching? You are watching a large group of whatever maneuvering around each other, not racing. A group of Scythes flying circles around each other would break locks left and right. If the TR stick to their flak AA MAX though...

The Scythe's maneuverability will be a huge advantage in air-to-ground and air-to-air. I can't see it having very powerful weaponry as a result. Depending on how they handle, I could see one picking up an enemy aircraft on their tail and cutting their forward thrust to spin around and hit reverse thrust, then strafing to either left or right while firing away at their target. Granted there are a million ways to counter that maneuver, but just as many other options open to the Scythe pilot at that particular point in time.

Scythe will probably have the highest learning curve of the 3. It's already my favorite though :D

[Xyntech]

Scythe will probably have the highest learning curve of the 3. It's already my favorite though :D

This is what excites me most about the scythe, the highest learning curve.

I wanted ES aircraft and improved flight mechanics. Not only am I getting both, but my empires aircraft may potentially be the most radically deep flight system of all.

It's like Christmas in July, in December.

[Chaff]

Never could fly worth a shit. The Scythe sounds the most intriguing.

Maybe I need to try it again, but stick with it.

Spamming AA MAX flak does sound like best countermeasure to a swarm or hornets on crack (Scythes).

[Raka Maru]

Can't... wait... to... shoot... down... ***AA Max arms trembling***

[Khellendros]

I can't wait to see how the new flight mechanics will affect dogfighting, hopefully it'll allow for more interesting maneuvers than the circle strafing we saw in PS1.

[Peacemaker]

Nothing complex about it, Gravity fed systems can't do it. Fuel pumps allow it, and most helicopters can do loops barrel rolls and even manuvers like an Immelman. Battlefield vietnam did a pretty good job of it. I hope they have a fun flight model.

[Canaris]

You boys remember Mexico! :D

http://youtu.be/DkY76umd1zE?t=1m10s