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Tikuto
2011-12-15, 11:54 AM
What the hell's goin' on?
(Correct me if I'm wrong)


It came to my mind that xeno colonist are marking habitable planets with warpgates. Recent fiction suggested to me that within Earth's solarsystem two or three wormholes appeared at separate times. The warpgates are for the aliens to travel the universe at any time, and so they could travel to Auraxis at any time? Reason why they probably never established on Earth is maybe because of Humanity. Holding back.

Auraxis's Vanu Sovereignty could be an alien experiment to tame humanity's chaotic nature. If successful the aliens may claim Earth without Auraxis's human inhabitants knowing, and so this could spark a whole new literature of PlanetSide story-telling (not game). If it may prove their hypothesis a part-success though TR and NC reject the ways of VS, theory would be to overwhelm humanity but for what reason? And so they're highly a potential threat. The VS, brainwashed, may think differently until proven (like when they attack).

I may have missed how Terran Republic came to locate and establish on Auraxis. Enter wormhole -- 'Hello, Auraxis.'?

It also came to mind that even in this future warping and wormholes have not been fully embraced except for, maybe, Rebirthing technology. I'd prefer it to stay that way to keep all 3-Empire war on one plant, condensing populations.
And just to add, I like the idea of repeated Rebirthing consequently altering human mind's psychology, stimulating confusion, aggression and reinforcing a previous state-of-mind: war, almost as if all humanity knows is war.



Summary:
Warpgates are alien settlements to translocate across the universe.
Warpgates cannot be harnessed by humanity ... yet.
The artifacts of the VS is an alien experiment to subdue Humans.
Why would these xenos want to attack Human? (The Day The Earth Stood Still reference?)
Rebirthing may be a type of warping though completely different. To add, it makes us retarded.

Captain1nsaneo
2011-12-15, 12:13 PM
You cause interesting thoughts!

If I recall the sequence of events that lead up to the TR being formed it was:
1st Opening of Wormhole, Earth Scanned
2nd Opening, Pluto goes Boom

Theory: The warp gates are smaller to the tech required to safely move through the wormholes. While the warp gates are for terrestrial transport (imagine logistics with teleporters, you could download a car) similar tech is used for the safe travel through wormholes. The alien race in question is nomadic because hey teleportation and wormholes = lots of resources. Think the aliens from Independence Day.

So our plucky aliens have run their course and used up Auraxis (at least to the point it was no longer pathetically easy to get resources) and are moving out to Earth! Here comes their giant ship through the wormhole! OH WAIT! Pluto, depressed over no longer being a planet, commits suicide and saves the human race by plugging up the exit! So aliens all get smashed inside the wormhole and die.

Or maybe they don't die and merge together in the madness of the beyond to become Vanu! Who is currently trapped inside an unstable wormhole. And then the Ferengi come and make excellent deals for everyone! And by everyone we mean the Ferengi!

Tikuto
2011-12-15, 12:17 PM
As soon as Earth or Auraxis discovers alien activity on the other side of the universe through telescopes is probably when they'll attack.

Auraxis may just be a reserve and not the xeno's home planet. Until the xeno-aliens decide to reclaim it, it's a science laboratory, a human zoo to them.

Aliens Warpgates and resource-gathering is a key bit of theory-thinking -- yes! O_

Canaris
2011-12-15, 12:33 PM
Anyone else getting the feeling that we might just be rats in some big maze?

In the original PS story the planet Auraxis itself had a sort of self aware consciousness, the original Vanu were dead but their legacy remained, perhaps the planet got lonely for company and figured if it brought humans over to keep it company, whats the worse that could happen.

What if deep down in PS2 planet Auraxis is still thinking and plotting.....

Xyntech
2011-12-15, 01:47 PM
What if deep down in PS2 planet Auraxis is still thinking and plotting.....

As a loyal soldier of the Vanu Sovereignty, I for one welcome our new planetoid overlord.

We shall be the harbingers of Auraxis plans.

In return, delicious purple koolaid.

What do the TR and NC offer? Peace? Fah. Freedom? Who needs it?

Join the VS! Apocalypses are cool. I've never seen a good post-stabilization or a good post-liberation movie that could hold a candle to Mad Max, I Am Legend, or The Road.

Tikuto
2011-12-15, 02:13 PM
What if deep down in PS2 planet Auraxis is still thinking and plotting.....Bit far-fetched and too simplified for my liking, and somehow doesn't link to those mysterious Warpgates?



"On the day the fracture closed, the dwarf planet Pluto was inexplicably torn to pieces. We had no idea what could possibly destroy an entire planet, but you can easily understand the panic it caused when the news was released."Pluto. Was this an accident or deliberate? Leading theories of recurrent openings of Warpgate within same solarsystem emitting 'scanning' waves may suggest deliberate. We all know these xeno are elusive and never-seen, and so maybe they wish to stay that way. Destruction of Pluto would be a whole huge separate chapter: startle Earth's human inhabitants, measure human's responses and awareness and make a judgement of humanity's psychi from that. Studying prey. Or ... it's just simply an accident.

The fact that there's something amiss about the whole thing, and considering alien life, torments us. Making us hysterical and insecure, fortified and curious. Theorizing and investigating: allured to enter the next Wormhole to Auraxis, segregate Earth populations and experimental brainwashing (Vanu Sovereignty artifacts), dumbfounding us. It all leads to war of Earth, which may already be lost! Humanity may be in peril!
The difference is ... people of Auraxis can prove alien life by the Warpgates. Earth is in disbelief and cannot prove alien life. Auraxis will be ready for battle -- Earth will not.

LongBow
2011-12-15, 02:37 PM
What if deep down in PS2 planet Auraxis is still thinking and plotting.....

ooo dark, I like it!


What do the TR and NC offer? Peace? Fah. Freedom? Who needs it?


I reckon with enough bullets or one really big bullet they could take a planet ...
and they'd annoy the Vanu and thus T-ray, I don't see how this could possibly go wrong ...

Bravix
2011-12-15, 03:07 PM
You cause interesting thoughts!

If I recall the sequence of events that lead up to the TR being formed it was:
1st Opening of Wormhole, Earth Scanned
2nd Opening, Pluto goes Boom

Theory: The warp gates are smaller to the tech required to safely move through the wormholes. While the warp gates are for terrestrial transport (imagine logistics with teleporters, you could download a car) similar tech is used for the safe travel through wormholes. The alien race in question is nomadic because hey teleportation and wormholes = lots of resources. Think the aliens from Independence Day.

So our plucky aliens have run their course and used up Auraxis (at least to the point it was no longer pathetically easy to get resources) and are moving out to Earth! Here comes their giant ship through the wormhole! OH WAIT! Pluto, depressed over no longer being a planet, commits suicide and saves the human race by plugging up the exit! So aliens all get smashed inside the wormhole and die.

Or maybe they don't die and merge together in the madness of the beyond to become Vanu! Who is currently trapped inside an unstable wormhole. And then the Ferengi come and make excellent deals for everyone! And by everyone we mean the Ferengi!

I say we nominate Pluto as an honorary planet for its fine deeds.

I honestly found this theory the most plausible, especially the Ferengi part. Those fu*kers are everywhere!

Canaris
2011-12-15, 03:25 PM
Bit far-fetched and too simplified for my liking, and somehow doesn't link to those mysterious Warpgates?



Pluto. Was this an accident or deliberate? Leading theories of recurrent openings of Warpgate within same solarsystem emitting 'scanning' waves may suggest deliberate. We all know these xeno are elusive and never-seen, and so maybe they wish to stay that way. Destruction of Pluto would be a whole huge separate chapter: startle Earth's human inhabitants, measure human's responses and awareness and make a judgement of humanity's psychi from that. Studying prey. Or ... it's just simply an accident.

The fact that there's something amiss about the whole thing, and considering alien life, torments us. Making us hysterical and insecure, fortified and curious. Theorizing and investigating: allured to enter the next Wormhole to Auraxis, segregate Earth populations and experimental brainwashing (Vanu Sovereignty artifacts), dumbfounding us. It all leads to war of Earth, which may already be lost! Humanity may be in peril!
The difference is ... people of Auraxis can prove alien life by the Warpgates. Earth is in disbelief and cannot prove alien life. Auraxis will be ready for battle -- Earth will not.

Your forgetting that Auraxis was a shattered planet when the colonist arrived it's still extremely mineral rich because that's what we're fighting over in PS2,

The original inhabitants are gone leaving behind a broken planet and remnants of their culture, ruins, psionic barney dolls and warp gates.

The real question is who or what activated the wormhole to Sol system and lured us there. There has never been talk of seeing a wormhole generator when the colonists came through to the Aurxais system.

I just don't trust Auraxis

Tikuto
2011-12-15, 05:37 PM
Your forgetting that Auraxis was a shattered planet when the colonist arrived it's still extremely mineral rich because that's what we're fighting over in PS2,

The original inhabitants are gone leaving behind a broken planet and remnants of their culture, ruins, psionic barney dolls and warp gates.Old or new fiction? O_. I must re-read stuff. Linky plz? :p

Still, alien settlement on Auraxis could just be contemporary if they appear that way. If so, it may still suggest homage for their own inter-galactic resource-collecting business. Alien explorers and colonist. They could reappear expecting an empty Auraxis or know humanity is here on purpose, know by AN accident, or even just by accident or they have no clue how Humans arrived there. Events in Earth's solarsystem suggest PlanetSide's xeno aliens and Wormholes means threat, and that we're unwitting cattle being exercised--a trap! Something suspiciously malignant going on...

The first wormhole alien scan may have an untranslated message or it has been kept secret by the Terran Republic. If so, "What the hell?".


Broken planet with lots of richness? Meh.... ? :confused:

Tikuto
2011-12-15, 06:12 PM
You cause interesting thoughts!

If I recall the sequence of events that lead up to the TR being formed it was:
2nd Opening, Pluto goes Boom

So our plucky aliens have run their course and used up Auraxis (at least to the point it was no longer pathetically easy to get resources) and are moving out to Earth! Here comes their giant ship through the wormhole! OH WAIT! Pluto, depressed over no longer being a planet, commits suicide and saves the human race by plugging up the exit! So aliens all get smashed inside the wormhole and die.

Or maybe they don't die and merge together in the madness of the beyond to become Vanu! Who are currently trapped inside an unstable wormhole. And then the Ferengi come and make excellent deals for everyone! And by everyone we mean the Ferengi!

Trapped inside a wormhole. Probably the most unfathomable thing that even aliens or Hawkins could not comprehend. But, still, the 3rd Wormhole to Auraxis? A scheduled return to safe-zone the aliens from Earth's solarsystem?

How would it relate to the artifact on the, I think it was an asteroid belt? Is this mind-magic material a completely separate chapter?


Alien's interest in extra-terrestrial life leads them to scan Earth's solarsystem.
Alien's interest in Human's newfound element or artifact 'Auraxium' leads them to scan Earth's solarsystem. Obviously none but intrigued by Humanity.
(Their inter-galactic mission to deploy Warpgates on Auraxium-rich planets universe-wide.)
Alien's attempt to investigate Humanity upon 2nd Wormhole -- OH SHIT! SNEAKY PLUTO! BOOM!
Alien's search & rescue. 3rd Wormhole. Failed. Timelessly trapped or deceased.
Humans discover Auraxium and enter 3rd Wormhole.
Convenient to the xenos they watch Humans on their Auraxis...These may suggest that they may not be hostile at all. Nice aliens, maybe :D. Still, it doesn't explain the nature of this new 'Vanu' material/artifact.

Plausible?

Canaris
2011-12-15, 07:20 PM
Together, we look towards a new chapter in humanity. Our scanners show New Earth to be an inhospitable and devastated world. Scientists with knowledge on the matter have told me that even after we terraform it, life on our new planet will remain difficult. However, I know how adaptable we are in matters of overcoming seemingly insurmountable challenges, even if only given the last 300 years of history as an example. I have no doubt in my mind that the discoveries we’ll make will make up for the hardships this journey has caused us to endure. Tom would’ve probably had more eloquent and reassuring words to inspire us, but he’s not here. Luckily for me, I’ve found a new inspiration for the future.

http://www.planetside2.com/news/nov282011backstory.html

Tikuto
2011-12-18, 08:36 AM
http://www.planetside2.com/news/nov282011backstory.htmlMaybe inhospitable to Human levels. These xenos may be ok living on there or, as I've said, it may just be a tiny single settlement amongst their many across the universe. Warpgates are on auraxis (New Earth?) and expectedly in multiple numbers, and so their plans before becoming in-contact with Humans may have been straight linear: settle on Auraxium-rich planets and transfer resource to their homeworld.

After: Possibly, since their discovery of Humanity (Wormhole 1) the responsible universal alien colonial authority may have designated xeno-team Auraxis to investigate Humanity (Wormhole 2). Auraxis alien colonists had a new agenda but Wormhole 2 collapsed by sneaky Pluto.
Search & Rescue (Wormhole 3) failed. These xeno-aliens were unaware of Humanity's readiness to enter Wormhole 3. Auraxis, VS artifiacts and extra-terrestrial life was discovered. Aliens may consider Auraxis compromised possibly in fear of Humanity's chaotic nature and strength. With all the Warpgates of Auraxis may suggest the aliens were ready to harvest Auraxis (New Earth?) but Wormhole 3 countered their industrial plans.

If this is the case, they can come back to repair and reconfigure their Warpgates and purge their world Auraxis of the Human rats spoiling it. They want Auraxium but the ill-minded Vanu Sovereignty responsible for selfishly menacing diplomacy. THREATS OF EARTH'S DESTRUCTION!
WAR!!!



Where PlanetSide's humans have a story surely the aliens do also because it may be those responsible for the Wormholes (considering Wormhole 1's scannings)

Ailos
2011-12-19, 05:09 PM
I don't remember reading anything about the reason for why the scanning upon 1st opening occurred. But the governments used it to unite Earth under one rule, to provide indisputable evidence of extraterrestrial life and potential threat. The aliens may have had their reasons to scan it, but here's what I think about it, based on the fact that the average politician has less intellect than a cat:

One or more power-hungry politicians on Earth conspired to say that there was a scan by extraterrestrial life to create the new unified government.

Historically, power is always seized by a new government through one of two ways: lying, trickery, deception and the general norm of politics (such as in a military coup or election rigging, etc.) OR an individual/group rising to the occasion (such as organizing from anarchy or when the old government fell apart due to bankruptcy, etc.). There were already functioning governments on Earth, although the planet as a whole was dysfunctional, so no opportunity there. So the new government HAD to trick everyone into creating its existence.

Another example can be found from the SETI program. When those guys first started looking through the sky for signals of extraterrestrial intelligence, they were baffled by pulsars, until they figured out that they're just dead stars. We know little about wormholes, and we hypothesize that they can only form as a result of a massive gravitational field, such as one caused by a black hole. But we don't know that for sure. We don't really know they exist for sure. And we've found weird shit in place we weren't looking countless times before. So a wormhole may not need to have been created. Or maybe there were aliens on the other side, but as per PS1 lore, they could only follow wormholes rather than create them. But I'm guessing that the "scanning" signal recorded by scientists from the 1st opening was nothing more than a naturally occurring phenomenon simply unobserved up until then. And what is this "scanning" anyway? An attempt to scan with a radar-type device from the outer solar system wouldn't tell anyone much other than Earth's mass +/- 10%, and that there's a shitton of water here. It cannot be any more detailed simply because electromagnetic waves would not allow it to be. Any actual, informative scan that would tell an alien race that there is another species on a planet must be performed from closer within, or at least last MUCH longer. It must last several Earth years, if not decades, from such a long distance to yield anything conclusive. And on that time scale, we would've had plenty of time to study it and maybe even go closer and explore, even with today's technology. So whatever the scan must've been, it was probably just a pulse of radiation or a sweeping beam of radiation. Either way, it's entirely plausible that it occurred naturally, and not by aliens.

And finally, I always want to add the fact that religion, beliefs, and politics can mix to produce ridiculous results. Just look at any of the current Republican presidential hopefuls. Add some shady science to this, and it wreaks of something Kim Jon Il would have come up with. Science works, but anything new must always be taken with a grain of salt until it's proven, observed, documented, and studied carefully. A single "scanning" signal wouldn't even classify as an experiment, let alone one powerful enough to draw scientific conclusions about. But someone with misguided faith will view that signal as a sign of God or as the case here, as a sign of an alien race (who then go on to revere it).