Now that Beta's coming, can we get recommended specs?

[Thoreaux]

With Beta approaching I can't help but realize; I'm sitting here with a dusty old 8800GT 512mb (albeit a water-cooled, factory overclocked variant), and a 2.66 dual core intel. Looking at the screenshots you guys are putting out I'm thinking, "There's no way my box could draw that at playable fps." I know I'm not the only one thinking that, either.

So, devs, how hard are you going to punch me in the wallet? It'd be nice to have some lead time to prepare my setup for Beta.

[Tapman]

I intend to test it on the several machines I have access to, all varying in age and muscle. Up to five years old is what we've all been told several times, I'll let the data do the talking.

[none]

When I get in(because it WILL happen), I'm going to try to slap it on a tegra 3 powered netbook and see what happens.

[fuzzehthehydra]

Yeah, I'm hoping the specs will be released soon too, as I'm running on a 2.53 intel duo. Still, they're supposedly targeting 5-6 year old machines so assuming that it's optimised to hell and back, we should be fine.

Also, remember that those pics will probably be taken on maximum graphics settings (for impact). Our computers probably won't have to render stuff that spectacularly detailed.

[Aractain]

Our computers probably won't have to render stuff that spectacularly detailed.

OH YES THEY WILL!

Computer, prepare for maximum graphics! Preparing for maximum graphics. MAXIMUM GRAPHICS! Maximum graphics.

Only have a 580 right now, don't know what nVidilord will have out by then but we will not stop, we will never surrended until graphics are no longer able to improve!

Unfortunately I only have 1920x1080 on an oldish 40" TV so I can't render in 2500ish love but Ill make sure everything else is top! I promise T-Ray, I PROMISE!

[Traak]

Recommended specs? :D

Octuple-Xeon server with 128GB of RAM, 28 SSD's in Raid 50, triple Nvidia or quadruple AMD video cards, liquid-nitrogen cooling, and a Razer Orochi mouse.

At least, that's what I recommend.

[Justaman]

Here we go, I found a computer that will run it on max. And dare I say, 16x AA? Well, maybe 8x.
Shazaaaam! (http://www.cray.com/Products/XK6/XK6.aspx)


"The Cray XK6 supercomputer is a trifecta of scalar, network and many-core innovation. It combines Cray’s proven Gemini interconnect, AMD's leading multi-core scalar processors and NVIDIA’s powerful many-core GPU processors to create a true, productive hybrid supercomputer.

Capable of scaling to 500,000 scalar processors and 50 petaflops of hybrid peak performance..."

[Coreldan]

Oh dear, you guys are in a dire need for an upgrade :D

I think my GPU could use upgrade for PS2, at least if I'm gonna Fraps like I'm planning to (see my YouTube link in signature). I have:

Phenom II X6 1090T mildly overclocked at 3,5ghz, should be capable of easily at least 4ghz with default cooler
HD5770 1GB
8GB of DDR3 1333mhz
750w PSU

[SKYeXile]

OH YES THEY WILL!

Computer, prepare for maximum graphics! Preparing for maximum graphics. MAXIMUM GRAPHICS! Maximum graphics.

Only have a 580 right now, don't know what nVidilord will have out by then but we will not stop, we will never surrended until graphics are no longer able to improve!

Unfortunately I only have 1920x1080 on an oldish 40" TV so I can't render in 2500ish love but Ill make sure everything else is top! I promise T-Ray, I PROMISE!

You're always preparing for everything!

[Coreldan]

Graphics equal might! No.. that wen't wrong, didnt it?

[Aractain]

Technology = graphics.

[LZachariah]

Remember, the Devs are AMAZED at how quick-moving and fluid the Forgelight Engine is; they're saying that it will process really impressive graphics even on middle-to-low-end machines. Now, I would certainly love to upgrade my system for Planetside 2, but even now, my rig is really solid (I play all my games on 1920x1050 with at least x2 AA plus details/textures/decals set to max). However, I think that we're ALL going to be impressed at how agile the Forgelight Engine is!


~Zachariah

[Nephilimuk]

I always quite liked these j/k

http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/25d7510/en/fixed/470/274/1950sGlasses.jpg?format=jpg

on the subject of PC's though going to wait for the beta before i decide

[Xyntech]

on the subject of PC's though going to wait for the beta before i decide

That's my approach. Parts generally get cheaper over time as well, so I wouldn't mind waiting for a price drop here or there since my budget's a bit tight lately.

Hopefully my current computer doesn't interfere with me getting into beta, but I think it should be fine for running the game on lower settings at least.

[Quovatis]

If you are thinking of upgrading, now is a good time. Get an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU. It's by far the best performance per dollar and will allow you to run any modern game extremely well. Games are rapidly getting to the point where a quad-core CPU is recommended (if not already the case).

It will be interesting to see how PS2 performs. I suspect, like many FPSes and PS1, it will be more dependent on the CPU rather than the GPU. So if you have to make a choice between a kick-ass GPU or CPU, the CPU is probably the better bet.

[Canaris]

It will be interesting to see how PS2 performs. I suspect, like many FPSes and PS1, it will be more dependent on the CPU rather than the GPU. So if you have to make a choice between a kick-ass GPU or CPU, the CPU is probably the better bet.

I shall go for a kick ass everything just to be safe hehe ;)

[SpLiTNuTz]

Hopefully my new rig will run it on high

- Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM
- Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
- OcUK Battle 750W Dual Rail High Efficiency Modular '80 Plus' Power Supply
- Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Arctic Cooling Freezer 13
- msi nvidia gtx 560 ti twin frozr ii

[Raymac]

With the graphics quality they are aiming for, and the massive numbers of players they are aiming for, and a brand spanking new engine, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get recommended specs until well into beta and just before launch. It just sounds like there are many unknowns at this point.

[Nephilimuk]

Hopefully my current computer doesn't interfere with me getting into beta, but I think it should be fine for running the game on lower settings at least.

I would not worry about getting into the beta on spec. If they are doing it right they will want a good spread of systems in order to benchmark. 386 with maths coprocessor could be pushing it though :P

[Arrow]

Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz / Turbo Boost up to 3.80GHz
64 bit Quad-Core Processor
2TB Hard Drive
8GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory
800W PS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 1GB <---------Is going to get upgraded by release
3 x PCI-e x16 expansion slots, means i can go crazy.

I REALLY hope my computer can run this beesh.

[Bags]

Hopefully my new rig will run it on high

- Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM
- Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
- OcUK Battle 750W Dual Rail High Efficiency Modular '80 Plus' Power Supply
- Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Arctic Cooling Freezer 13
- msi nvidia gtx 560 ti twin frozr ii

Someone tweeted a build exactly like that to Higby, and he said it would be bitchin'.

[Infektion]

With Beta approaching I can't help but realize; I'm sitting here with a dusty old 8800GT 512mb (albeit a water-cooled, factory overclocked variant), and a 2.66 dual core intel. Looking at the screenshots you guys are putting out I'm thinking, "There's no way my box could draw that at playable fps." I know I'm not the only one thinking that, either.

So, devs, how hard are you going to punch me in the wallet? It'd be nice to have some lead time to prepare my setup for Beta.

I'll buy that card from you if you'd like, I'd be nice to just have a dedicated physx card. :groovy:

[Death2All]

They said they're aiming for 5-6 year old systems to still run the game great, but given the level of detail we've seen and the scope of the game, I don't see how that's possible. Might have to go in debt to buy an awesome rig for this game.

[Rivenshield]

They said they're aiming for 5-6 year old systems to still run the game great

My rig's three years old, albeit with a newer graphics card, so I guess I'll be able to test out that theory....

[Bags]

I really am skeptical of that claim... but who knows, forgelight looks like magic, so maybe it is.

[Zulthus]

Before upgrading I'd like to see how it runs on

-AMD Athlon II x4 655
-GTX 460 1GB
-4GB RAM

[Xyntech]

I really am skeptical of that claim... but who knows, forgelight looks like magic, so maybe it is.

Forgelight is powered by ancient Vanu technology.

Just imagine if it were powered by TR technology. It would probably look just as good, but my god, the lack of optimization. More is better my ass, trim some fat you chubby bastards.

Or if it were powered by NC technology? Ha! Never compromised, yeah right. Bugs everywhere you'd turn, massive security issues since they would undoubtedly try and make it open source (for FREEDOM!). Unpolished glitchy for sure.

I think Nanite Systems powered the first game. Good for it's time, but outdated now. Gotta accept Vanu into your heart if you want to cut it in todays market.

[Rivenshield]

I really am skeptical of that claim... but who knows, forgelight looks like magic, so maybe it is.

Foregelight had better be the cleanest, tightest code that was ever written in Christiandom if that's gonna be true. Me...? I've written documentation for a lotta software development teams, and I've seen how these things go in real life versus the PowerPoint presentations, and I'm more or less internally prepared for something that looks half as good on a *new* machine and lets me do battle against 1200-1500 combatants.

I'll still be completely happy, mind.

[Ghoest9]

Im hoping my 3 and half year old machine can run it fairly well if I get a new card.

[Vancha]

I have...

- AMD 64 3500+ (Single core)
- 2x512MB DDR 333mhz RAM
- A bottlenecked ATI HD3850

Think that'll run it?

Yeah, me neither.

[Trolltaxi]

I wonder how well the integrated GPU of my i5 2500K will perform... :)

[SpLiTNuTz]

Someone tweeted a build exactly like that to Higby, and he said it would be bitchin'.

Sweet! Thanks bags

[inigma]

I am currently working on a PS2 build just for beta and beyond, I'm looking for feedback, but I think these specs will give me awesome play for 2-3 years with PS2 without upgrading:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38262

The PS2 Core Gaming Rig (https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=22674567): (newegg prices)

Case:$125 NZXT Phantom Black ATX Full Tower (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146068)
PSU: $220 Corsair Pro Series Modular HX1050W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034) (for future upgrade to 2 gtx 580s)
Mobo: $150 ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265)
CPU: $320 Intel i7 2600K (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070)
Cooler: $35 Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099)
RAM: $83 Corsair Vengeance 16GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233143)
HDD: $170 OCZ Agility 3 120 GB SATA III SSD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726)
GPU: $590 EVGA 3 GB GTX 580 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587)
BR Burner: $96 Pioneer Black 12X BD-R (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129066)

Rig Total:$1789 (newegg wishlist) (https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=22674567)


Monitor: $210 ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" LED LCD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153)
Keyboard: $8 LITE-ON SK-1688U/B Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823107128)
Mouse: $35 Logitech G400 Black 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Gaming Mouse (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577)
Headset: $25 KOSS SB45 3.5mm Connector Circumaural (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826263010)

System Total : $2067 (newegg wishlist) (https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?BundleExist=N&ID=22674627&ChangeQty=0)

Thoughts?

[Alaska]

I believe that'll definitely give you awesome play for the next 2-3 years. =]

[inigma]

I believe that'll definitely give you awesome play for the next 2-3 years. =]

Great. I pushed da button. Its on order. :)

[Alaska]

After only one reponse? ^-^

I mean from what the devs have said about how far back they want to go..what you posted should blow the lid off PS2 or anything that comes out in the next 3-4 years with no problem. I just didn't think you'd go ahead and order it, I almost feel responsible for your actions in some way LOL. :P

[Arrow]

After only one reponse? ^-^

I mean from what the devs have said about how far back they want to go..what you posted should blow the lid off PS2 or anything that comes out in the next 3-4 years with no problem. I just didn't think you'd go ahead and order it, I almost feel responsible for your actions in some way LOL. :P

I dont think hes complaining to much. It was almost as if he planned it. Gah I want that GTX 580..... but alas price drops in the spring will have me laughing glad that I havent dropped any money on a new graphics card yet.

[inigma]

After only one reponse? ^-^

I mean from what the devs have said about how far back they want to go..what you posted should blow the lid off PS2 or anything that comes out in the next 3-4 years with no problem. I just didn't think you'd go ahead and order it, I almost feel responsible for your actions in some way LOL. :P

lol, dont' fret Alaska. it's been a three week research project. the final build is based on the recommendation of several tech sites, newegg reviews and other reviews, and recommendations from friends, tech geeks, ps1/2 (gotr) outfit mates, and other gamers who have built their own systems recently. Arrow was right, I planned it. I just needed last minute emotional support to pull the trigger. :)

If all goes well overall, I just might name one of my hdds after you. thanks man!

And Arrow's comment is just icing on the cake. I let you all know how it goes on the PSU tech forum. Here's hopin' for a Jan 1, 2012 boot up.

happy holidays!

[Alaska]

It's all good. I kinda figured you had it all under control. lol ^-^

Hope it all works out! :D

[SgtMAD]

I have that same case,it is the size of a piece of furniture.

I went with the 570 instead of the 580,same power supply and i went with the corsair H80 cooler

it should do the damn job

[GuvNuh]

i hate you all so very, very much. my tower died, and now having to use an old tower a buddy gave me, which i got working by cannibalizing 3 other busted towers, my own included. Really, i don't even know how this thing works. Maybe 2.8ghz dual core with 1.5gigs of ram, and a pretty average gpu. went through seven cd/dvd drives before i found 2 that worked.

[inigma]

i hate you all so very, very much. my tower died, and now having to use an old tower a buddy gave me, which i got working by cannibalizing 3 other busted towers, my own included. Really, i don't even know how this thing works. Maybe 2.8ghz dual core with 1.5gigs of ram, and a pretty average gpu. went through seven cd/dvd drives before i found 2 that worked.

I can relate, but not so sure I can empathize:

I'm coming from a 10 year old 32 bit XPH, P4 1GB system, 120GB HDD, ATI 2800 128MB, and a 17" tube the size of an old tv. Jumping to a 64 bit W7P, i7 2600k 16GB, 120 GB SSD, GTX 580 3GB, and a 24" LED. I'm hoping to see a slight increase in my previous computing experience. If all goes well, I am hoping that this will be well worth the 10 year wait (and savings ive put into it) imho. Being my first ground-up build, I really hope I don't mess anything up, and I hope to learn a lot in how computers have progressed in 10 years. I got my cpu today. Rest of the parts will be in by Friday. Hoping for a Jan 1, 2012 power up (and a January beta? *grin*).

[Arrow]

I can relate, but not so sure I can empathize:

I'm coming from a 10 year old 32 bit XPH, P4 1GB system, 120GB HDD, ATI 2800 128MB, and a 17" tube the size of an old tv. Jumping to a 64 bit W7P, i7 2600k 16GB, 120 GB SSD, GTX 580 3GB, and a 24" LED. I'm hoping to see a slight increase in my previous computing experience. If all goes well, I am hoping that this will be well worth the 10 year wait (and savings ive put into it) imho. Being my first ground-up build, I really hope I don't mess anything up, and I hope to learn a lot in how computers have progressed in 10 years. I got my cpu today. Rest of the parts will be in by Friday. Hoping for a Jan 1, 2012 power up (and a January beta? *grin*).

oh it will be night and day good sir. you will shit your pants.

[Vancha]

I can relate, but not so sure I can empathize:

I'm coming from a 10 year old 32 bit XPH, P4 1GB system, 120GB HDD, ATI 2800 128MB, and a 17" tube the size of an old tv. Jumping to a 64 bit W7P, i7 2600k 16GB, 120 GB SSD, GTX 580 3GB, and a 24" LED. I'm hoping to see a slight increase in my previous computing experience. If all goes well, I am hoping that this will be well worth the 10 year wait (and savings ive put into it) imho. Being my first ground-up build, I really hope I don't mess anything up, and I hope to learn a lot in how computers have progressed in 10 years. I got my cpu today. Rest of the parts will be in by Friday. Hoping for a Jan 1, 2012 power up (and a January beta? *grin*).
Look up the computer building guides from Newegg and CareyHolzman on Youtube.

[MercDT]

AMD Phenon X4 955 Processor 3.20GHz
4GBs RAM 1333MHz
ATI HD5770 1GB
500W PSU
Windows 7 64bit

Thoughts? I'll probably will be getting a new case, psu, and gpu sometime in 2012.

[Arrow]

Possibly upping the ram a bit too? got cheap sticks for sale for sure.

[Vancha]

Supposedly RAM prices will be going up in the near future. Now might be a good time to get them, even if you won't be using them right away.

AMD Phenon X4 955 Processor 3.20GHz
4GBs RAM 1333MHz
ATI HD5770 1GB
500W PSU
Windows 7 64bit

Thoughts? I'll probably will be getting a new case, psu, and gpu sometime in 2012.
I expect that rig will run PS2, if not at max settings.

[Coreldan]

Luckily I already got my 8GB of RAM, should suffice me for pretty much this computers life time.

For the record, here's mine:

AMD Phenom II x6 1090T @ 3,5ghz (can be OCed easily up to 4ghz even with default cooler)
HD5770 1GB
8gb of 1333mhz DDR3
750w PSU

Could really use another real HDD to make recording easier, currently frapsing all my APB videos on a USB2 external HDD..

[inigma]

arrgh.

Now this is odd. I used the Corsair memory config tool for the AS Rock Extreme4 Gen3 mobo to select the 16GB Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 which I purchased, however according to the memory support list for ASRock Extreme4 Gen3 mobo, its not listed. Oy vey! Is the list out of date or am I missing something here? Why would Corsair list it but not ASRock?

I thought I did my research. People on newegg for the memory have the same mobo and it works fine for them, however, and this is a big however, those ppl were also using an i5 instead of an i7 2600k. i did some google searches and found that those using an i7 2600k with the ASRock Extreme4 Gen3 were unable to run all four sticks of the Corsair memory without getting BSOD'd in Win7. 2 sticks work just fine, but not all four. This was for both the p67 and z68 gen3 boards. I think I found some answers by ASRock support forums that the issue is with the cpu's memory controller, and not the board or memory per se.

Can someone help me confirm this? This would really suck to get all four sticks and be handicapped to just 2 with my new build lest I get BSODs. I really liked the color of the Corsair as it matches the neutral black and (and blue led) theme of the rig. The only DDR3 1600 speed 16GB 4x4GB kit that appears supported by the ASRock page that also has a heatspreader is the (tr colored ick!) red g.skill ripjaws.

Any suggestions? Should I rma the Corsair as soon as I get it in the mail this Thursday, or just try it out, see if it works, wait for it fail if ever, and then rma it and get the ripjaws?

I'm sweating here. I thought I did enough homework to make sure I got the right memory.

[Was_Ash_Emerald]

One thing we don't seem to know is just how many cores PS2 (Forge Light) can use.

All games that use 2 or more cores, afaik, use it in manner that's fairly dumb - AI on one core, sound on one, graphics on another, etc.

A truly scalable engine would use 8 or 16 cores potentially.

If such were the case for PS2, the latest AMD 8-core would likely to do better than the 4 core I7s. This would be an exception, as normally Intel processors are better due to their higher IPC.

The bottom line is... WAIT to purchase any new hardware if you can, until PS2 beta starts.

[inigma]

One thing we don't seem to know is just how many cores PS2 (Forge Light) can use.

All games that use 2 or more cores, afaik, use it in manner that's fairly dumb - AI on one core, sound on one, graphics on another, etc.

A truly scalable engine would use 8 or 16 cores potentially.

If such were the case for PS2, the latest AMD 8-core would likely to do better than the 4 core I7s. This would be an exception, as normally Intel processors are better due to their higher IPC.

The bottom line is... WAIT to purchase any new hardware if you can, until PS2 beta starts.

I want to play in the beta. :) So I figured buying the parts at the signup announcement was a good time to do so, especially now that it seems probably a beta could be ready in the next month or so. This would allow a good month to tweak whatever system one gets in time for the beta.

If I didn't want to play beta, I would have waited until the beta start date to purchase.

I just hope my memory purchase as detailed above, wont come back to bite me. If anyone has info on the compatibility of the memory module I posted above and the ASRock mobo mentioned above, I'd be interested in knowing.

[Coreldan]

I really hope Forgelight will use multiple cores well. It's fucking 2012 (by the time the game comes out), nobody has less than two cores, most people who will play the game will have a minimum of 4. :D

I got 6 myself.

[Bags]

Huh, I hope I didn't goof by getting my 2500k now :x

[TigerClaw]

this is what im currently running
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 3582MB RAM
GeForce 8600 GT
i have a 650 watt power supply

i think about going this root


Krypton Z68 600i Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz @ 4.60GHz Overclocked Bundle ( http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-063-OE&tool=3 )
add in another 4 gig of ram to bring it up to 8
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Golden Sample 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card ( http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-151-GW&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1010 )

and im going to "borrow" a 120 gig SSD from work and then run windows and my mains games off it, then use a normal HD for data storage etc.


i have been doing some research and unless you doing high level rendering etc there doesnt seem to be a need to go to i7 for gaming, although im guessing you are going to be future proofing yourself.

to be fair if i put in a SSD and new graphics card in my current PC i think it will run most games well ( once it get it off vista :evil: )

[TigerClaw]

i5 2500k vs i7 2600k

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=288

the i7 will be better to have for video encoding etc, but the I5 seems to be more sutible for gaming and provides better power to £ ratio.

[SuperMorto]

I have to get mine in as its 2 days old :D and I love it <3

Preccessor = Intel I7 2600k 3.4 4xCores.
Motherboard = GByte GA-Z68XP-UD3P
GCard = GTX 580Amp
Ram = 16GB
SSD= 120GB
HDD = 2TB Fast SATA II
PSU (will change this at first chance)
DVD etc etc bla bla,

Its so calm, whatever I'm doing.

http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=231&stc=1&d=1324987344

And have you ever seen such a tidy desktop :) my desktops are always that tidy.