planetside 2 for mac or gaming console

[Magpie]

planetside as always been my all time favourite shooting game over COD/BF ect but buying a new laptop on mac OS will planetside 2 be on mac? or a gaming console like xbox 360?

cheers

[Coreldan]

Probably neither. Consoles restrict modern games way too much. Mac is just not a standard. Not worth putting it on either, really.

[Trolltaxi]

I'd hate to see it on consoles - how would they compete with PC gamers without their aimbots?

[Magpie]

ahh sony probly dont want to pay the license for mac, or spend the money or time making the cross over bit gutting, dont think my old pc will play the new one.

well you never know if ps2 gets big may invest

i think console iwould have a diffence sever because pc would have the upper hand with a keyboard and mouse more buttoms = more shortcuts. but it would be a bit shit too much lag and it would dim the game down

[CrystalViolet]

Since console games outsell PC games at more than a 10 to 1 ratio, I think they would be stupid not to release a console version of PS2 on the next gen hardware. SOE is a business after all, and they are going for the broad shooter market with PS2.

New hardware will be more than capable of running the game, and remember that a console is nothing more than a PC optimized for gaming. Servers would likely not be cross-platform though.

[Coreldan]

As long as it's ported from PC to console and not the other way around.

Sick and tired of suffering in my PC games cos the game was made for consoles.

[Death2All]

Please no on consoles.

PC gaming is in need of a serious revival. Putting a massive game like PS on console and then further optimizing it for that would be the biggest slap in the face ever.

As for Mac, I don't really have anything against it, but I think time would be better spent optimizing the game for PC and working out bugs and fixes over the years instead of trying to put it on an OS not meant for gaming. Just a waste of time.

[Magpie]

As for Mac, I don't really have anything against it, but I think time would be better spent optimizing the game for PC and working out bugs and fixes over the years instead of trying to put it on an OS not meant for gaming. Just a waste of time.

Lol selfish windows user! But with a mac there would not be any bugs!

Don't think ps2 would work in console going from ps1 its a very indepth game with making outfits, all the difference chat rooms, buttom layouts ect how would people chat mic? It would be mayhem with 300 players, typing? Takes me time to type on the Xbox.
Only way it would work on console is with a keyboard and mouse

[Duddy]

Putting the Mac/Console argument aside for a moment, a platform I'd love to see the game on is OnLive.

How awesome would it be to be able to play from almost any device provided I had an internet connection? (And the appropriate input ofc)

That said, not sure how a F2P MMO would work on OnLive given how things are currently handled...

[BorisBlade]

i could see it on a ps4 since it has a nice open system and is also a sony product. The xbox on the other hand probably not. They do the "apple style" business model, which means they prohibit any developer from making cross platform games for their system, they massively scrutinize and delay any patching, so much so that it makes mmo's a huge pain to near impossible to do on the system (hence the reason there are pretty much zero of them on the 360) so that if you get a massive bug or whatever, you dont get an instant patch like on a pc that day, but probably weeks or longer down the road. And they pretty much get to tell you what you can and cant do, you have no choice in the matter, you get to be their little bitch like with apple. Its not a system that promotes innovation or online persistant world games.

Microsoft loves controlling you, so i dont see it changing anytime soon. Its sad to see console makers getting away with such terrible systems that just hurt the overall gaming experience. I hope the ps4 stays much more open and just works more on their community experience (which is why the xbox does so much better). You dont need an authoritarian dictatorship to have a good community experience, you can do it while promoting choice and freedom and innovation in gaming all at the same time.

[FIREk]

Is OnLive still around? :O

As far as I know OS X doesn't support DirectX, so don't expect anyone to rewrite the graphics engine to use OpenGL just so that a bunch of hipsters can play PlanetSide 2 in Starbucks. :P

In all seriousness, though... I've got a Mac at work and, to be honest, OS X is a joke for gaming and I respect game companies for making Mac ports, as they're most likely doing it out of pity. :P I've got a bunch of colleagues at work that own Macs and they use Windows on those when they want to play games. Starcraft 2, for instance, is pathetic on OS X, but if you install Windows on the same Mac, through Bootcamp, you'll get as much fps and visual quality as your hardware can muster.

TL;DR: OS X is only good for Spaces, the Dashboard and whatever the F9 thing is called, so buy Windows and install it on your Mac if you want to proper games, in a proper way. ;)

[BorisBlade]

Putting the Mac/Console argument aside for a moment, a platform I'd love to see the game on is OnLive.

How awesome would it be to be able to play from almost any device provided I had an internet connection? (And the appropriate input ofc)

That said, not sure how a F2P MMO would work on OnLive given how things are currently handled...

Yeah OnLive is pretty sweet when compared to consoles. (i prefer the control, choice, and modability of my pc games tho). Played some F.E.A.R. 3 on a tablet the other day with a wireless controller. Crazy to see that knowing your tablet cant even remotely process those graphics and you are just getting a streaming feed. Cant beat that for mobile atleast when you have a nice wireless connection. And i do have it on my pc as well for the game bundle they have, only downside i see is the 720p rez, but thats due to them waiting on better bandwidths becoming more widely available which wont be much longer. On a smaller tablet or laptop tho its not a problem.

And yeah im curious as how how they would even handle MMO's with OnLive. It would require some changes on their end, and a custom ui set up that would work with their system for billing etc. But I dont see why it couldnt be done. However MMO games already have innate lag even if its very small, the very very small lag you get with onlive would combine with this tho which could make it a noticable problem. I could be wrong tho. If they have a solid low ping to the game servers for their hardware then the increase in lag on the user end wouldnt be enough to cause problems.

OnLive is a closed system too tho, so they would need to change things on that end as well. However they keep it closed to maintain speed (they dont want an additional ping by letting you use other multiplayer servers on the net) not so much to maintain control of you like apple/microsoft.

[ringring]

Is OnLive still around? :O

As far as I know OS X doesn't support DirectX, so don't expect anyone to rewrite the graphics engine to use OpenGL just so that a bunch of hipsters can play PlanetSide 2 in Starbucks. :P

In all seriousness, though... I've got a Mac at work and, to be honest, OS X is a joke for gaming and I respect game companies for making Mac ports, as they're most likely doing it out of pity. :P I've got a bunch of colleagues at work that own Macs and they use Windows on those when they want to play games. Starcraft 2, for instance, is pathetic on OS X, but if you install Windows on the same Mac, through Bootcamp, you'll get as much fps and visual quality as your hardware can muster.

TL;DR: OS X is only good for Spaces, the Dashboard and whatever the F9 thing is called, so buy Windows and install it on your Mac if you want to proper games, in a proper way. ;)

I know cupid already plays PS1 on Mac .... and gets great fps.

Also, I thought Higby had confirmed ps2 would be on PS4 or whatever it's called. I don't do consoles.

[Magpie]

Is OnLive still around? :O

As far as I know OS X doesn't support DirectX, so don't expect anyone to rewrite the graphics engine to use OpenGL just so that a bunch of hipsters can play PlanetSide 2 in Starbucks. :P

In all seriousness, though... I've got a Mac at work and, to be honest, OS X is a joke for gaming and I respect game companies for making Mac ports, as they're most likely doing it out of pity. :P I've got a bunch of colleagues at work that own Macs and they use Windows on those when they want to play games. Starcraft 2, for instance, is pathetic on OS X, but if you install Windows on the same Mac, through Bootcamp, you'll get as much fps and visual quality as your hardware can muster.

TL;DR: OS X is only good for Spaces, the Dashboard and whatever the F9 thing is called, so buy Windows and install it on your Mac if you want to proper games, in a proper way. ;)

That's a really smart ideal, hook up a external hard drive to the MacBook and install windows 7

Cheers I'll look into it

[Magpie]

Is OnLive still around? :O

As far as I know OS X doesn't support DirectX, so don't expect anyone to rewrite the graphics engine to use OpenGL just so that a bunch of hipsters can play PlanetSide 2 in Starbucks. :P

In all seriousness, though... I've got a Mac at work and, to be honest, OS X is a joke for gaming and I respect game companies for making Mac ports, as they're most likely doing it out of pity. :P I've got a bunch of colleagues at work that own Macs and they use Windows on those when they want to play games. Starcraft 2, for instance, is pathetic on OS X, but if you install Windows on the same Mac, through Bootcamp, you'll get as much fps and visual quality as your hardware can muster.

TL;DR: OS X is only good for Spaces, the Dashboard and whatever the F9 thing is called, so buy Windows and install it on your Mac if you want to proper games, in a proper way. ;)

Thats a really smart ideal! I'll hook up a external hard drive and install windows 7

Cheers I'll look into it

[Ailos]

Quote from my friend (she is an avid Mac user)

I don't like windows 7. It's confusing to me, and I can never figure out how to find anything.

If they make a version of PS2 for Mac OS that will be translated into

I don't like PS2. It's confusing and I can never figure out how to shoot and the red bonus numbers never calculate right for me.

Having to install boot camp and windows on your Mac is a rite of passage that also incidentally acts as an IQ filter.

[Bittermen]

Since console games outsell PC games at more than a 10 to 1 ratio, I think they would be stupid not to release a console version of PS2 on the next gen hardware. SOE is a business after all, and they are going for the broad shooter market with PS2.

New hardware will be more than capable of running the game, and remember that a console is nothing more than a PC optimized for gaming. Servers would likely not be cross-platform though.

PS2 will be out long before the next generation of consoles...

Hopefully.

1000vs1000 players is impossible on the current gen.

[Zulthus]

Hopefully PS2 never hits consoles. This is a PC title and should remain that way.

[LongBow]

I'd hate to see it on consoles - how would they compete with PC gamers without their aimbots?

their reticules shrink faster ...


will it run on macs?
It depends on if they used Direct X ... as Direct X is exclusive to Microsoft platforms.

will it be on PS4?
we got a standard "cannot confirm or deny"...

[Mastachief]

If mac users want it go bootcamp and stop wasting our dev resources on that stupid crap.

Consoles cannot handle it and i hope it doesnt see the future gen either as it limits the future enhancements to the game as the hardware cannot be upgrade

PC only thanks

[SKYeXile]

Mac or console?

GET OUT.

[HarbingerAzrael]

Look i dont wont to bring up the old mac v pc argument,
But i dont thinks its fair to rule out PS2 on mac altogether, a handful of mac user including myself are dead keen about playing PS2 but dont own PC desktops (i do plan on build one just for games when i have money).

i understand that the thought of PS2 on mac is not ideal and would divide resources but couldnt be see as a side project down the track after PS2 gets established.

[JawsOfLife]

I don't see OnLive making this available because:
A) OnLive may or may not have gone under recently (seriously, did they break up the business or not?) and
B) PS2 is free to play. OnLive would make no direct money, and I seriously doubt they would make much profit if they got, say, a portion of microtransaction payments. doesn't seem like a feasible business strategy.

[Timujingeo]

That's exactly how I'm playing PS2 at the moment with win7 64 bit and bootcamp 4, works like a dream tbh.
Though i do have the 27" i7 iMac with 12gb RAM and 2gb 6970 gpu so it should work ok.
Apparently there is talk of a Mac OS specific version of PS2, but due to the limitations of OpenGl I doubt very much if it would run as well as through windows, certainly if my experiences with world of warcraft are anything to go by.

Thats a really smart ideal! I'll hook up a external hard drive and install windows 7

Cheers I'll look into it

[Astrok]

I'd hate to see it on consoles - how would they compete with PC gamers without their aimbots?

Maybe they launch it on playstation 4.I really see that happen.And why do u hate it? they could have their own servers like DC universe has.

so ps2 for console and ps2 for pc seperated.

No problems with that.

Besides more and more games provide the option to play with mouse+keys on console (for example dust514) mmo ps3 exclusive .

[Timealude]

Maybe they launch it on playstation 4.I really see that happen.And why do u hate it? they could have their own servers like DC universe has.

so ps2 for console and ps2 for pc seperated.

No problems with that.

Besides more and more games provide the option to play with mouse+keys on console (for example dust514) mmo ps3 exclusive .

I dont see how they could port it over to consoles without losing some functional buttons

[brighthand]

Hopefully PS2 never hits consoles. This is a PC title and should remain that way.


same. Asking for a console port of a PC game is like wishing a hurricain descend upon your grandmother's house.

What I can't understand is how people can't see that this is bad? When I hear the word "multiplatform" in relation to a game's development, I think of a finite amount of resources being stretched accross several platforms, with a thinner list of features so that greater advantage is taken of the systems' common features/attributes/player preferrences, rather than focusing on fleshing out one specific platform's strengths and making the best product possible.

The resason why Planetside 2 is so full of potential (it still has some things to work out, I must say), is that the PC user base and hardware, *on average*, is slightly more sophisticated. Its hotkeys, mouse, third party applications and customizations, as well as hardware (that will always be ahead of consoles), all combine to make a more advanced gaming experience that gives developers alot more to work with.

Don't think I am being elitist. I also play on PS3 and love that platform as well, but my objective observations while gaming on both platforms have lead me to the aforementioned conslusions.

[Sunrock]

planetside as always been my all time favourite shooting game over COD/BF ect but buying a new laptop on mac OS will planetside 2 be on mac? or a gaming console like xbox 360?

cheers

Well the Xbox 360 would not be able to run the program I believe... The hardware is just way too old. Maybe next gen consoles would...

But for mac... You can use a windows emulator for mac to play windows games. Not sure how well that would work with this game.

[jepaul]

Can't Mac run windows products? Boot camp? I'm an idiot when it comes to Mac as they offer nothing other than pretty cases and really nice packaging.

I'm in the graphic and video editing business btw. Our boxes blow away any $5000 Mac by a long shot. Our i.t. loves them because parts are plentiful and cheep. Purchasing loves them because, well, the parts are plentiful and cheep. Marketing hates them because they make their living by convincing others their product is bette.

Typing from an iPhone btw.

[Blue Sam]

Count the number of keybindings in PS2. Compare to number of buttons on a given console controller. Yeah, that isn't going to work.

So, we're stuck with mouse/keyboard (and joystick) - which is good, since that's just straight up the best way of playing FPS games that I'm aware of (apart from mouse/trackball - I really do like those). Mac/PC is still fine - and indeed, apparently already works with Bootcamp.

So, how about mouse/keyboard on a console? Still no, unfortunately. The current generation doesn't have anything like the processing power required, at all. So, on to the next generation:

The WiiiU should be able to run it at the lower settings, and will probably have mouse/keyboard support. Honestly, if you're going to put it on a console, this is by far and away your best shot, but I don't know how bad Nintendo's DRM and stuff will be.

The 720 will have the same ridiculously closed format as the 360, and will probably not have decent mouse/keyboard control, and the supposed architecture will make a port a pain in the arse.

Getting it onto the PS4 would obviously be easier in terms of making the manufacturer happy - because at the end of the day, it's Sony. However, it does look a little light on RAM (as in, worse than the laptop I'm typing this on - note that the 720 will have the same problems here, in all probability). On the other hand, it will probably have the USB ports necessary for mouse/keyboard support. As with the 720, the large delay between PS2s likely launch and the console's release could cause problems.

Tl;dr: If you're going for a console port, WiiU is probably your best shot, but even there it'll be a bit contrived, and you'll basically be using it as a PC that you can't upgrade, before you even get into the problems with getting it past the manufacturers checks.

[Gortha]

Look i dont wont to bring up the old mac v pc argument,
But i dont thinks its fair to rule out PS2 on mac altogether, a handful of mac user including myself are dead keen about playing PS2 but dont own PC desktops (i do plan on build one just for games when i have money).

i understand that the thought of PS2 on mac is not ideal and would divide resources but couldnt be see as a side project down the track after PS2 gets established.

IMacs, Macs, Macbooks are Intel Personal-Computers. Install a decent Operatingsystem alá Win7 on it and play PS2.

Well most Hardware in Macs is not that potent like custom PCs. So u wont have much FPS in most cases on most Macs. Big, mega expensive Mac Workstations will do it, like a new medium PCs will do it.

But please, stop requesting Mac Versions for HighEnd Games.
Mac is a tiny piece of the Hardware-Cake. Most of em are Hipsters, Audio- or Grafix-Guys, who don´t even play games. So, why should a company waste its rescources on a bunch of trolls, who are using some fancy typewriter?:huh:

Reg
Gortha

[Neophyteone]

Lol.

Mac doesn't have support for Direct X and probably never will since it is a Microsoft product. Forgelight engine is built with direct X and unless you are willing to give them ExxonMobile as payment they will not rebuild it to opengl/cl.

If you so much want to go bootcamp on a mac you ruin the purpose of the mac, then you could just buy a normal pc laptop and spray it white, save 1000$ bucks.

The hardware of a macbook (assuming you are using a macbook if you go to starbucks) will not handle planetside2 since it is too demanding.

Please get out.

/Regards
Neo.

[Neophyteone]

Look i dont wont to bring up the old mac v pc argument,
But i dont thinks its fair to rule out PS2 on mac altogether, a handful of mac user including myself are dead keen about playing PS2 but dont own PC desktops (i do plan on build one just for games when i have money).

i understand that the thought of PS2 on mac is not ideal and would divide resources but couldnt be see as a side project down the track after PS2 gets established.

Implying you can afford a mac but cannot afford a gaming PC.

Please get out.

[HarbingerAzrael]

Implying you can afford a mac but cannot afford a gaming PC.

Please get out.

I never said that I bought my mac.

Also i dont think it fair of people to just denial Macs the right to games, More and more people are buying macs, along with that framerate is not an issue because most macs that are running at the moment are the intel ones which have some punch to then.
Valve accommodate for both operating systems.

And suggesting to go out and get windows it stupid

Gortha your statement about troll using mac is just bullshit.

[jepaul]

What video card is any affordable Mac going to have that can power ps2? And affordable is anything less than $1500 because I can build one hell of a pc for $1500. What does you Mac do that my $1500 pc can't? My PC has no crashes and no viruses because I'm not an idiot.

[Neophyteone]

I never said that I bought my mac.

Also i dont think it fair of people to just denial Macs the right to games, More and more people are buying macs, along with that framerate is not an issue because most macs that are running at the moment are the intel ones which have some punch to then.
Valve accommodate for both operating systems.

And suggesting to go out and get windows it stupid

Gortha your statement about troll using mac is just bullshit.

go bootcamp and get ps2 running, show me your framerate. if you even can update your drivers to support ps2 at the very first. But the very first statement that you cannot afford a gaming pc but you do have a mac is just silly.

why ask so much from a developer, if you go mac, its because you dont want to play games on it, its not for that purpose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

The reason nothing is beeing developed for mac is because not many enough use it.





Also ^1 what jepaul said.

[ProgamerX]

I have heard that they are going to develop a mac version for Planetside2 but, in the meantime this guy nearly got it working on a mac, research into it and it might be compatible with mac :)

Planetside2 on mac (Nearly) - YouTube

[Wahooo]

Since this thread has been resurrected, again, I thought I'd chime in.

Macs suck for games. All Apple products are overpriced but they do work. I got mine for 2 reasons. My kids/wife can more easily use it for what they want it for and My laptop and that desktop can communicate and I like the way everything I run on the mac works on the mac vs the PC. Comparing hardware in the mac to a PC is apples and oranges to some extent as Windows is a resource hog and many mac specific programs get a lot more from apparently less. I could afford and justify a macbook for what I use it for, I cannot afford to buy another pc just for games at this time.

That video??!?!?? Why would he... um... I don't think there will every be PS2 for mac, at least I hope not. Besides OSx and DirectX issues macs just don't run games well. Bootcamp is the answer and a good one. You simply turn you comp into a dual boot machine one partition is OSx the other is Windows. It isn't hard at all. And please, not a windows emulator that is... well dumb take MORE system resourced to run the emulator than windows already demands?

I had L4D2 on both boots and I have to say... don't play FPS games on a MAC... just don't. There is inherent lag with the mouse, there is inherent mouse acceleration that even with 3rd party apps doesn't 100% go away, it other issues that don't feel the same off of windows.

PS2 runs on my computer just like it would if i were running it on a custom made gaming laptop that is 2.5 years old... which means adequate but not that good. GPU is middle of the road, everything else is good.

One thing though if you are going to game on a mac through bootcamp, make sure you get a 3rd party fan control program. There are some specific ones, otherwise bad things can happen heat wise.