PS2 VS looking like Halo Covenant?

[Magpie]

Just looking at the new VS gear on PS2, and the Magrider and Scythe looking close to the Covenant Wraith/Ghost/Banshee?

Just saying no need to go mad

[LZachariah]

I hear you, Magpie. And sure, I don't think you're insulting anyone. I love the VS; they look amazing. But yeah, I guess I can see some similarity in the design. Both the VS and the Covenant have that ridged, scalloped look with overlapping triangular plates. It certainly doesn't look SO similar that I saw it and thought, "Psh, well this is obviously a Halo ripoff," but sure, they share some common features :-)

~Zachariah

[basti]

http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/f/f9/Halo-3-Banshee.jpg


http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20111122_4ecc12fb236eb.jpg

http://www.cardgameforge.com/images/properties/5911/72c41a3d9a32e7835b7d1d614f14e696.jpg

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/artlink03.jpg



Yeeaahah, looks TOTALLY SIMILAR!


Get a clue...

[Sabrak]

Meh.

The Scythe looks like a Cylon fighter, and Terran heavy assault armor kinda reminds me of Fallout's Brotherhood of Steel armor .

So yeah... We'll always find similarities everywhere.
It's getting difficult to make totally new things.

[Magpie]

Not saying look the same but they have same style.
Hovers,purple,shape style

[IceyCold]

So, anything that either: hovers , is purple , or has a sleek design is obvious Halo?

Gotta say, I am not really seeing it.

In fact to me, the Mag looks WAY more like the alien fighters from Independence Day than a Covenant vehicle.

[NewSith]

fuck this game its a Halo clone from head to toe i wonder when people will stop copying Halo and cod also X360>PC!!!11! your all gay.

*trollface*

[WarrantOfficer]

Personally when I began to read the thread I thought to myself "Oh, another troll." However upon further investigation it seems you're serious; This is quite disturbing since it is common knowledge in the gaming community that a good deal of "modern" video game artistry styles originate from Warhammer 40,000.

Power armour and other common shooter themes gained popularity in the 1980's because of warhammer 40,000. If you're accusing PS2 of stealing Halo's art style, you're essentially accusing the thief of the thief of the thief here.

This has been going on for a long time and not much has really been done about it.

[atone]

its seems that for most purple+alientech= halo. Wonder if ppl would feel the same if they weren't purple.

The design trends that are employed here have been in use way before halo. For some reason humans imagine(d) aliens liking smooth curves with pointy bits thrown in here and there. A lot of the more popular designs are actually based on insects, i.e. beetles and such, (However the trending now is toward more rough, or "boney" kinds of designs) and as said before Vanu and the other faction designs are based on the original planetside. Which came out around the time of halo. So its not hard to believe there are some similarities?

EDIT: posted this the same time others. Seems like everyone has the same gripe. mag you stirred up a bees nest

[Magpie]

I'm not saying It's a halo clone or PS team have stolen design but just commenting on it, but I could just see a NC guy on top of a Magrider with a jammer!




http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080714152121/halo/images/7/7f/1216048876_Phantom_front.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_covenantdropship/images/CovDropship0.jpg

[Tasorin]

BattleTech - 1984
WarHammer 40k - 1987
Halo - 2001
PlanetSide - 2003

Get the point yet?

[Shogun]

halo is the real thief! the masterthief char is a copycat of the doom marine.

there will always be similaritys is scifi games/films. the devs explained already why they have chosen the faction colors and since no normal thinking person would choose purple, the alienlovers got it.
the vs are technically advanced, and how many ways are there to show this, other than letting their tanks hover and shoot laser?
sure, there has been games with hovering alien tech in purple, but shit happens ;-)

and i liked the halo look, so there is nothing wrong in reusing working elements of existing scifi in new scifi. it´s common in the genre. by the way, look at the non scifi games! they look all the same, too! just because the war they refer to looked that way.

the important thing is, that ps2 plays very very different than any halo COD or other fps out there. it´s simply not comparable. other games are like watching tv while planetside is more like a real paintball match in comparison.

leaning the alien design a little towards halo was the second best the devs could do! i could just imagine one style that would have rocked more... but i guess this would have been very expensive and coloring it purple would be blasphemic... the only better vs design would have been designed by h.r.giger ;-)

[NivexQ]

Guys, relax. He's not saying that they're identical, or that anyone stole anything from anyone; or that this is even a bad thing. He's simply stating that they look similar, which is very true. Stop taking everything as an insult.

[Lonehunter]

Not seeing a resemblance other then color

[Elude]

Yes they do look similar, but they've always looked similar since the original Planetside 1 cover. Sleak with energy weapons, they're purple, have hover vehicles, and they're both highly religious to another race.

I think the covenant look a lot like the protoss from starcraft, except purple instead of yellow. They even have similar body structures to the elite and have energy blades, they're also highly religious to another race!

[Raymac]

Most alien stuff looks fairly similar in sci-fi anything today. You either have alien green or alien purple. VS were already purple, so there ya go. Like T-ray said in the recent video. The VS design is triangular, scalloped, and obviously shiney. That's not unique, but it's not a direct copy either. Like other people have said, the VS vehicles look similar to the new cylon raider, or the ships from independence day, or the batwing. There's nothign wrong with drawing comparisons, because they are inevitable.

It kinda reminds me of the opening scene of The Player with Tim Robbins where they are pitching movie ideas and EVERY idea is simply "movie A meets movie B". Nothing truely original because it's all be done before.

The real bottom line is that in a game like Halo, they have AI and set pieces going on in the background to simulate that you are in some massive epic battle. In Planetside, you actually are in a massive epic battle.

[Crator]

I'm not saying It's a halo clone or PS team have stolen design but just commenting on it, but I could just see a NC guy on top of a Magrider with a jammer!

I think the real question on everyone's mind here is, what point are you trying to make?

[Trolltaxi]

TR soldiers use black and red, they have an easy to recognize headgear - and those yellow points are typical Eye of Sauron shield generators. Don't let yourselves mislead by the NC-blue jeans, we all know the truth! And look at the mustache! He is TR, hands down.

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens11702251module107197581photo_1277268947S uperMarioPartyArtwork.pn

[Draegon]

My first thought when I saw the Vanu's dyson, is that it was really similiar to the

Dramiel:

http://i.imgur.com/W9JXF.jpg

Daredevil:

http://i.imgur.com/psSz3.jpg

From EvE Online, which is an amazing game. Love that they are using the same skill system from that game just with their own tweaks.

[Ailos]

Just looking at the new VS gear on PS2, and the Magrider and Scythe looking close to the Covenant Wraith/Ghost/Banshee?

Just saying no need to go mad

Future VS cannon fodder right there.

Humans share 98% of our DNA with all the other mammals on this planet.

I've met quite a few people who struggle to tell the difference between a Lexus IS, BMW 3 series, or a Merc C-class, too. And they do have a valid reason to be confused - they all have 4 wheels, usually 4 doors, they have white lights in the front and red ones in the back, and are usually black or silver.

DETAILS PEOPLE. Details make all the difference in the world.

[Vancha]

Yeah, I don't understand people constantly comparing this with Halo...The Covenant comparisons least of all.

Are the shapes similar? No. Covenant is rounded, VS is angled.
Is the texture similar? No. Covenant is smooth, VS is scalloped.
Is the colour similar? Barely. Covenant is a pale bluish purple, VS is a stronger, pinkier purple.

I'm just not seeing it.

[Chaff]

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Damn Ailos,

I was thinking of automotive styling as I was reading thru this thread. Great analogy.

Cadillac CTS has Stealth Bomber/Fighter lines......but then again sharp angular lines have come and gone thru automotive styling from the very beginning.......so, we may initially say or think Cadillac got their CTS styling cues from a Stealth fighter.....but 50 years ago the Italians had ripped it off of American automotive styling common to the 20's and 30's......so......it's like fashion,.....it's all been done.....LONG ago.

There's little "new" music for that matter....12 notes in the chromatic scale......throughout history, every note has been played billions of times......so, is their any truly original or "new" music ?
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[Elude]

Vanu and Covenant have about as many similarities and differences as the Tyrannid do to the Zerg.

The point isn't that there are tons of unique things about the Vanu, the point is that there are enough similarities to make a comparison. The Covenant surely were not copied but they were certainly an influence in the design of the Vanu.

If you don't like this that's fine, it's not like Halo doesn't have influence written all over it from other projects, like Aliens, Doom, and even the Protoss in StarCraft.

[SKYeXile]

Yea terrans are coped from starcraft too, THEY AHVE THE SAME NAME! !!1

[SuperMorto]

We all came out of the same pond, get over it.

[DviddLeff]

When I showed the trailer to my Minecraft club at school and they saw the Mags they immediately linked it to Halo.

They are purple hovering vehicles after all.

[Xyntech]

Both extremes of this topic bother me.

There are similarities that you can compare between Halo and Planetside. Don't act like they aren't there, people don't keep bringing it up randomly for no reason.

Conversely, the games have a lot of differences, from the large scale of how they handle balance and battles, to the small scale details of color/shape/design philosophies, etc.

There are similarities between Planetside and a ton of other things as well. There are also a ton of similarities between Halo and a ton of other things. Some of those similarities overlap between the two series, others don't.

Pointing out the idiocy of calling Planetside a Halo clone is fine by me, but I just wish that someone could mention the two games in a single, rational sentence without the fanboys raging about it.

[Crator]

There's a simple explanation for this. Halo was very popular so many many people know about it. PlanetSide is not well known. Same concept when someone says, WoW-clone...

The statement pisses us PS1 vets off because the game mechanics are very different. Whereas when someone says, WoW-clone they are more correct in saying that since the game mechanics are the very similar...

[SuperMorto]

Halo had lots and lots and lots and lots of AI, PS1/2 have none.

[Xyntech]

Halo had lots and lots and lots and lots of AI, PS1/2 have none.

Well, PS2 at launch maybe... ;)

Halo also had regenerating shields, where as Planetside 2...

Sorry, now I'm just trolling.

[Magpie]

Well, PS2 at launch maybe... ;)

Halo also had regenerating shields, where as Planetside 2...

Sorry, now I'm just trolling.

Ps2 NC max ;)

[SKYeXile]

Ps1 NC max ;)

Personal shield bro.

[Kouza]

Also the TR look like the Marines from halo :O

[SKYeXile]

Well, PS2 at launch maybe... ;)

Halo also had regenerating shields, where as Planetside 2...

Sorry, now I'm just trolling.

Yea planetside also has people in mechanised armour, where as halo...

I think a difference is Planetside 2 wont be a total sausage fest like halos.

[Gogita]

This post is directed towards Magpie.

This was your original statement:

Just looking at the new VS gear on PS2, and the Magrider and Scythe looking close to the Covenant Wraith/Ghost/Banshee?


As Basti clearly showed you, they do not resemble each other and then you tried to save your ass by changing your statement to: "oh yeah it's the same style". Damnit man, I hate forum people like you. Stop being so ignorant and just admit that you were wrong. So far the only hovering vehicle we've seen is the Magrider, which does not resemble the Wraith from Halo other than that it floats. Your statement fails even more with the Scythe, because there the ONE AND ONLY similarity between it and a banshee it that it's purple! That's all!

Would you have complained if the color of the VS was not purple? Probably not, but it was a design choice given by the fact that the VS in PS1 was purple as well. The design to hover was also already in the first game. So if you are so convinced of your argument, you should think that the VS in PS1 is also copied from Halo, which makes you one of the many stupid people on internet that have no clue what they're talking about.

[SKYeXile]

smedly stole the idea of a hover tank in tanarus from halo...in his time machine.

[T-Ray]

Not saying look the same but they have same style.
Hovers,purple,shape style

No comment

[Magpie]

No comment

Not saying your work is coped, i think its Excellent very well made, keeps to the style of PS1 but playing halo reach at a mates house reminded me of VS.

[SuperMorto]

Not saying your work is coped, i think its Excellent very well made, keeps to the style of PS1 but playing halo reach at a mates house reminded me of VS.

Ahhh so it wasnt PS that reminded you of Halo? It was halo that reminded you of PS?

:)

Halo is that last game I think of when I play PS, and ive played a lot and I mean alot of Halo.

[sylphaen]

No comment
Not saying your work is coped, i think its Excellent very well made, keeps to the style of PS1 but playing halo reach at a mates house reminded me of VS.

I think he was simply pointing in a very gentle way to the fact that you may have zero affinity with design if you still find those halo vehicles similar to PlanetSide concept art.

Just sayin'...

[Magpie]

Planetside is more like battlefield, halo is just a 16 player muitplayer

My point is look at both tanks, the planetside Magrider and the halo wraith now what do they both got in common?

Colour both purple
Hover tech
2 sits
Plasma weapons
Alien look
Two weapons one Anti vehicles one anti troops

[EVILoHOMER]

The only thing I see that is the same are the colours

[razor851]

BattleTech - 1984
WarHammer 40k - 1987
Halo - 2001
PlanetSide - 2003

Get the point yet?
No, sir.