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Conq
2012-01-21, 05:41 PM
Well that question sounds cheesy, I'm mostly looking for a newer game similar in feel to PlanetSide to get my guild hyped for PS2. We have a big guild but it's hard getting them all interested in one game.

Was thinking about Section 8 Prejudice since you can get 4 keys for 45 bucks on Steam but then I noticed you could pre-order for instance beta access on Tribes Ascend.

Is there any go-to sci-fi shooter for this forum, aside from PS1?

Crator
2012-01-21, 05:50 PM
Why not play PS1? Sub price?

Xaine
2012-01-21, 05:53 PM
Honestly, there is no real comparison.

No other game really comes close to giving you proper training, and i'm not just saying that because i'm a fan boy. Battlefield 3 is probably going to be the closest, but apart from that - general FPS practise to get the aim up to scratch is always a good bet.

SKYeXile
2012-01-21, 05:55 PM
BFBC2 is probably the closest thing, its TTK matches more what SOE are aiming for than BF3.

Conq
2012-01-21, 06:09 PM
Why not play PS1? Sub price?

Don't know that I could get them interested in a game that old. Also time is a issue, I just want a game night two or three times a week for PS2 practice/fun. I assume it would take months to get a brand new PS1 outfit to a competitive level we could have any fun with.

Rumblepit
2012-01-21, 06:11 PM
there is no real comparison for ps1. but the ps1 combat is a dead art. no more adad combat, no more third person, no need to get into the habbit. you need to find a physic/cof based shooter that has the same or close to the same ttk rate as ps2.

that is if you want the combat practice. otherwise any game will do if your working on communications and outfit tactics.

XPquant
2012-01-21, 06:16 PM
I second Battlefield Bad Company 2. I play every night to stay sharp.

Crator
2012-01-21, 06:25 PM
there is no real comparison for ps1. but the ps1 combat is a dead art. no more adad combat, no more third person, no need to get into the habbit. you need to find a physic/cof based shooter that has the same or close to the same ttk rate as ps2.

that is if you want the combat practice. otherwise any game will do if your working on communications and outfit tactics.

Good point, however if it's large scale war you're looking to practice with, nothing else compares to PS1 except for maybe WW2 Online.

Coreldan
2012-01-21, 06:25 PM
While there is no real comparison, but APB:Reloaded is a good game to play as an organized team. Given, the group size is limited to 4, but still. Also has vehicles in a major role, but just normal cars, so not aircrafts and stuff like that.

If you have no clue what the game is like, I have plenty of footage uploaded from an organized groups PoV. Link is in my signature.

While the game has problems, it's free2play and still pretty much one of the best f2p games around (TF2 doesnt count, personally I dont like it at all anyways :D).

Given, APB is also a third person shooter, so won't really train you for an FPS, but still.

DxC
2012-01-21, 06:51 PM
I get my fps Fix so far from Arma 2 its not the same granted but its sort of open world and quite fun even though its trying to be a simulation and such

May swap to the Bf3 Boat soon though

Conq
2012-01-21, 07:01 PM
While there is no real comparison, but APB:Reloaded is a good game to play as an organized team. Given, the group size is limited to 4, but still. Also has vehicles in a major role, but just normal cars, so not aircrafts and stuff like that.

If you have no clue what the game is like, I have plenty of footage uploaded from an organized groups PoV. Link is in my signature.

While the game has problems, it's free2play and still pretty much one of the best f2p games around (TF2 doesnt count, personally I dont like it at all anyways :D).

Given, APB is also a third person shooter, so won't really train you for an FPS, but still.

Funny you'd suggest that. We (Murder Herd) went really deep in APB the first time around and just starting trying Reloaded a few days ago. The obvious complaint though is the group size.

FIREk
2012-01-21, 07:05 PM
I third BFBC2. It's not as broken as BF3 and the TTK is roughly where PS2 is aiming at (with PS2 reportedly being designed to be a bit slower than BFBC2).

NewSith
2012-01-21, 07:12 PM
FPSes:

Counter-Strike PCW or Quake for CQB and reaction time practice.
Battlefield for teamplay (hmmmmmmm) and long-range practice.

Non-FPS:

Lock-on for aircraft practice.
Dawn of War 2 multiplayer for versatility and trust practice.
Random fun game like minecraft or something for teambuilding.
Real-life chess and poker for strategy practice.
Heavy morning exercises for self-discipline practice, body and spirit.


Without any jokes, №7 (discipline, not exercises) is the most important thing, because without discipline there's no way you can keep your head cool in stressing and depressing situations.
Many teams I played with in differrent times usually had a problem maintaining self-control. Thus situations like "You're wrong, I'm right" and "-I'm a leader, you're not! -Prove it!" popped out here and there all the time.

If members of your team respect each other as much as they do themselves and team knows its own limit and tries to exceed it, - then there's no game that you need to practice for, you'll be competitive anytime anywhere.



But all this BS lecture aside, I'm quite sure you were just politely asking for an advice on what to play these days, aren't you?

If that's the case - APB, BF and Crysis 2 MP can do.

Shogun
2012-01-21, 07:33 PM
if there was any game that even comes near the planetside experience, this forum would only have half of its active population ;-)

that planetside is really unique is the reason why we are here every day to wait for more and drool over every bit of info about our big dream to get the planetside feeling from a modern game ;-)

i read on the net that last year there was a planetside 1 clone called mars war, but it´s already dead and offline again. only the chinese version is still going but i doubt you can get your guild to play a game where they cannot even read any letters or communicate with anybody.

best way to hype would be sending your friends videos of great ps1 action and the new gameplay footage of ps2. then tell them to imagine the epic action from ps1 video with the forgelight graphics power of the ps2 video.

Bittermen
2012-01-21, 08:28 PM
I think any game that is team oriented will help you.

Preferably a military shooter.

DxC
2012-01-22, 02:37 AM
Arma 2

I bring it up again as someone mentiond planetside in a server I was playing on last night
It had got dark on the map I was on and everyone had to swap to Nightvision and turn on the Headlights and then someone said I hope its this dark in Planetside 2

Coreldan
2012-01-22, 04:00 AM
Funny you'd suggest that. We (Murder Herd) went really deep in APB the first time around and just starting trying Reloaded a few days ago. The obvious complaint though is the group size.

Murder Herd rings some bells, I think :D

Nowadays there's also the Fight Club that is like pointless TDM with 16v16, but that's not a very good platform to train teamwork even if you can get more people in there :D

Death2All
2012-01-22, 04:57 AM
Play BF because PS2 is more than likely going to be a carbon copy of it. At least gameplay wise since it's the flavor of the month currently.

ringring
2012-01-22, 06:11 AM
Whatever you do don't play ps1.

The graphics will put you off ps2 and it's USP of huge battles has gone. It's maybe 60x50x50 at best these days.

Tehroth
2012-01-22, 01:06 PM
Hmm I'd say APB and Battlefield 3. How will factions get vehicles? Will it be from factories and when you conquest and take over other places you get more?

BorisBlade
2012-01-22, 02:37 PM
BF3 and CoD will not help in the least, esp CoD, its way too simplistic and boring. BFBC2 as others have said is not bad, but it wont help with the way PS2 will be. Without the scale and playstle of a persistant world its hard to get a feeling of it all. Most FPS games are just quick twitch matches so you get alot of the awful squad spawning and instant deaths and lame kill streak style things and what not. PS plays nothin at all like that.

PS1 is about as close as you'd get, but while the vehicle fights are still the best, the infantry fights are lacking compared to newer mechanics and may not meet the standards of the person who loves infantry combat. However it can do a ton to help teach teamwork. Its one of the few games where you can literally get together and even just go practice how to enter a tower or base, what formations to use, what tactics to use, etc. We used to do alot of practice runs assaulting towers and bases etc. It helped a ton.

Basically find a game that promotes and rewards teamwork and practice together to get disciplined. You can take 10 average players and become godly if you are well organized. You dont need to all be awesome if you are all working together well. Plus, find some free time to screw around with those guys like others have said. Play some games where you can all just mess around and have fun. Build a group of friends that enjoy playin together and hanging out. Thats the most important part. Ill take the crappiest PS player on earth if he can work well with the group and we enjoy playing with him, over the best PS player that we dont really like that much, any day of the week.

Conq
2012-01-22, 03:56 PM
Too bad Brink fell apart so fast, it had a lot of fun team work elements for the two weeks it lasted. Now they are down to 2 active servers.

Seagoon
2012-01-22, 04:10 PM
Guys, if you want a good game to practice for Planetside 2 look no further than Project Reality mod for BF2.

http://www.realitymod.com/

The game features large scale combined arms teamwork based FPS gameplay with servers usually 64 players in size but often 128 or even sometimes 256 player servers pop up. The maps are usualy 2X2KM or 4X4KM with a range of enviorments from citys to jungles.

The game revolves heavily around coordination in your squad as well as coordination in your team to get kills, not die and to win rounds.

Here are a few vids to demonstrate:

Canadian Mechanized Infantry - PR v0.97 Op. Marlin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjemp2-_Xo4)

Project Reality 0.97 - Cache assault with CAS support - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw9JrH84g9Q)

PR v0.96 Shijia Valley - PLA Combined Arms - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtZo_nDDyAk)