Anti-Antiwar Protest today!

[avail]

My college hosted a peaceful antiwar protest today, which about 40-50 people attended. Being a red blooded american, I felt it was my duty to put on a ski mask and steal their shit in broad daylight.

http://www.gis.net/~powda/hosted/avail/SOL2.JPG

http://www.gis.net/~powda/hosted/avail/SOL4.JPG

God Bless America :D

[Navaron]

lol

[mistled]

:rofl: you are the man

[Navaron]

Here in Omaha theres gonna be an anti-anti war march. Supposed to be huge. Sounds like fun...

[Lexington_Steele]

That is awesome!

[ABRAXAAS]

Fuck americans are retarded, I still dont understand why this war is necessary:confused:

[avail]

This was a simple prank to piss people off. Don't turn this into some political debate. k thx.

[ABRAXAAS]

You cant start a thread relating to this war and not expect for it to turn into a political thread;)

[Headrattle]

I find it interesting that at my job (About 500 people on night shift) most of the people that were in the military don't want war. Yet, most of the people that weren't in the military do.

Other then that I think the "prank" is childish and silly. Especially the part that reads "nuke em."

No offense.

[Hamma]

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gg avail hahahahhahhaha

[powdahound]

You better keep that on your wall. :)

[Toimu]

:rofl:

That's great man !!!

[avail]

Originally posted by Headrattle
I find it interesting that at my job (About 500 people on night shift) most of the people that were in the military don't want war. Yet, most of the people that weren't in the military do.

Other then that I think the "prank" is childish and silly. Especially the part that reads "nuke em."

No offense.

a) This was done because people here don't actually "protest" it's more of name calling against republicans and our president.

I've got no problem with people's varying opinions, but when they are nothing more then mere name calling, it's uncalled for. This prank was just to fuck with them.

b) I'm going into the military, and I'll just leave you with a quote.. "No one prays for peace more then the soldier, for it is he who carries the scars of war"

c) "Nuke Em" is a joke. Get the stick out of your ass and try and take it for what it is.

[Toimu]

Originally posted by avail

b) I'm going into the military, and I'll just leave you with a quote.. "No one prays for peace more then the soldier, for it is he who carries the scars of war"

Me too, 54B, I'll be getting my ship date next week.

[Headrattle]

Originally posted by avail
a) This was done because people here don't actually "protest" it's more of name calling against republicans and our president.

I've got no problem with people's varying opinions, but when they are nothing more then mere name calling, it's uncalled for. This prank was just to fuck with them.

b) I'm going into the military, and I'll just leave you with a quote.. "No one prays for peace more then the soldier, for it is he who carries the scars of war"

c) "Nuke Em" is a joke. Get the stick out of your ass and try and take it for what it is.

A) depends on what you call "name calling." Some people seem to believe that saying "we are going to war for oil" is insulting the president. It isn't. It is just an incorrect assumtion. Oil is part of it. But it isn't by any means the only reason.

B) I used to be in the military. Part of me wants to go back to fight for my country. Not because I want to see combat, but because I feel I have that duty. But that doesn't change the fact that the war without a coallition is a bad idea, in my opinion.

C) hehehehe, yeah you have no problem with peoples varying opinions... except my opinion when I said it is silly and childish. I am "taking it for what it is." And in my opinion it is "childish" and "Silly."

However your last post was funny. I am giggling as I write a response.

[Mtx]

Originally posted by Toimu
Me too, 54B, I'll be getting my ship date next week.

*thinks*

I don't know of a MOS that sits further away from the frontline than that.

I think Air Force personel get closer to the action than you will. :p

[avail]

btw, name calling included "Fuck Republicans" and "Bush is our generation's Hitler" to name some.

And dude, this is a joke. Take it for that. Stop laying down flame bait.

[Headrattle]

You are right. I guess I was doing a little unintentional trolling. Didn't mean to.


Sorry 'bout that.

[KoldFusion]

Originally posted by Mtx
*thinks*

I don't know of a MOS that sits further away from the frontline than that.

I think Air Force personel get closer to the action than you will. :p

Careful MTX i'm leaving for the Air Force on April 8th and I know you wouldn't want to offend me :) :D I'm entering the military not because i'm a war monger... but because I feel I have duty. Every male in my family for the last 100 years has been in the military. One of my brothers is going in a few months after me and the other would except he is medically disqualified. God bless the USA.

PS. Anyone want to second my motion for Avial to be president? :)
Nice work pal. The ONLY thing that chaps my ass about the protesting isn't even the proptesters fault..... but where is the voice of the people on the news supporting the war.... damn news nazis. I think we should hold a huhg pro-war rally just to show people... mainly our troops that there are a MAJORITY of us who support them when thay are called to do thier duty wether we agree with the cause or not. Our troops deserve that.... they don't need another homecoming like Vietnam.

PPS. I support the war in Iraq... however UN backing equals better.

[Gortha]

read this:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48303-2003Mar5.html

Try starting to think about your mindless War.... and try to learn something about your own Country the USA..... the most Europeans know more than the US-Folks.

[KoldFusion]

is that link coming up for anyone else? I'll entertain your blasphemy :)

[Squeeky]

:rofl:

[Manitou]

I am in the military right now. I don't know of a single troop who doesn't see the need to squash the bug in Iraq. (...and we will, watch us...)

Peace is maintained by power. I don't believe for an instant that Saddam Hussein or any other tyrant/dictator, if given the opportunity, wouldn't use that power to destroy us.

You think he would take it to the UN council to see if he was allowed to bomb us? :rolleyes:

[Derfud]

I found this little quote interesting from another forum... think it over...


The problem about this war is that the USA failed to explain why Iraq is so much more dangerous than numerous other countries in the world that have weapons of mass destruction, tolerated by the USA. The decision seems kinda arbitrary, like the USA need a scapegoat. They are finished with Afghanistan, now they need a new target to satify their desire for revenge for 911. After they are finished with Iraq, who is next? Is it really up to one country in the world to decide which other countries are allowed to have weapons of mass destruction and which are not? Is the USA the moral authority to make this decision? Imagine the USSR hadn't crumbled and was still as strong as during the cold war and now THEY would claim to be that authority and decide that some country is not allowed to have any weapons.
Last but not least I think a war would INCREASE the danger for the USA, because the anti-American spirit among Arab countries would get a LOT worse after such a war, creating more muslim extremists seeking revenge. Hardliner policy didn't bring Isreal peace. It only made the palestinians even more mad, creating more suicide bombers. The same is going to happen to the USA.

[MrVulcan]

*thinks- i need an anti-anti-war rally to go to .....

[CockRoach]

why does everyone want to be all nice to saddam? you all know, stop denying it.... if we dont blow him and his so called army up then we can expect a nuke or a anthrax warhead commin this war is a few months...

avail you did a good thing, nuke em!

[OneManArmy]

The problem about this war is that the USA failed to explain why Iraq is so much more dangerous than numerous other countries in the world that have weapons of mass destruction


what like north korea as an example? Contrary to what you think America dose not enforce nazi style power over everyone. We don't have to deal with every country that happens to be a threat. in the North Korea case, china, japan and I think russia has pledge to stop them.

But I don't see to many countries next to iraq that could stop them.

[MrVulcan]

Originally posted by OneManArmy
what like north korea as an example? Contrary to what you think America dose not enforce nazi style power over everyone. We don't have to deal with every country that happens to be a threat. in the North Korea case, china, japan and I think russia has pledge to stop them.

But I don't see to many countries next to iraq that could stop them.

ya, NK is more china's problem than ours, im sure that if their 3 mill troops feel too worried, that they will have not problem walking over like 100,000 troops with half the tech :lol:

[KoldFusion]

The problem about this war is that the USA failed to explain why Iraq is so much more dangerous than numerous other countries in the world that have weapons of mass destruction, tolerated by the USA. The decision seems kinda arbitrary, like the USA need a scapegoat. They are finished with Afghanistan, now they need a new target to satify their desire for revenge for 911. After they are finished with Iraq, who is next? Is it really up to one country in the world to decide which other countries are allowed to have weapons of mass destruction and which are not? Is the USA the moral authority to make this decision? Imagine the USSR hadn't crumbled and was still as strong as during the cold war and now THEY would claim to be that authority and decide that some country is not allowed to have any weapons.
Last but not least I think a war would INCREASE the danger for the USA, because the anti-American spirit among Arab countries would get a LOT worse after such a war, creating more muslim extremists seeking revenge. Hardliner policy didn't bring Isreal peace. It only made the palestinians even more mad, creating more suicide bombers. The same is going to happen to the USA.


First, the decision is not arbitrary. We told the world from the get go that we fight terrorism "where ever" it may be. We went ahead (stupidly IMO) and labeled Iran, Iraq, and N.Korea as the axis of evil. The US does not have to make the case here.... Saddam has made the case against himself over the last 12 years. This is not as petty as scapegoating. I'll tell you whos next... N. Korea
As far as one country policing the world..... well.... yes it is the job of one country. The world has put us in that role. Wether they like us or not. For example.... when the war on terror started, many of the middle east nations said to the US..." come over and fix Isreal and Palestine", what would have happened if the US and a few allies didn't intervene in Bosnia to stop the ethnic cleansing that milosevich was performing. You see the world is content to stand on the sidelines and allow this atrocities to occur. Their actions stop at nothing but petty talk. Take the UN and the Iraq situation. I have said this before and I'll say it again.... When resolution 1441 was passed unanimously with the language "serious consequences" not a single one of the countries thought that meant when non-compliance is evident to give him sore time by adding inspectors via a new resolution. They knew it meant the use of military force. But as history has shown the french a spineless snakes and russia still can't be trusted... Germany... well Germany is lucky it is still it's own country after the first 2 world wars (so they should STFU). Bottom line is this.... the UN has done a fine job of making them as irrelevant as the league of nations which dissolved BTW b/c it was useless. The UN should do the same and a new charter should be made. Yes the USA should make the decision since noone else will. (see my other posts on this matter b/c i don't want to type it all again.) "war is immenent" "N. Korea or Iraq"
The arguement about the increased anger in the arab world toward the US does have merit. But your damned if you do and damned if you don't. I do believe the goal of wiping out terrorism is an unattainable goal... however, I do believe terrorist should be confronted and fought at every oppotunity one way or the other.

[MrVulcan]

cool nk info:


http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp?0dm=N235N

on the left under divided korea, you will see a thing called: "N. Korea's missiles" and it shows how far they can reach, etc..

[MrVulcan]

WRH_KoldFusion, another point is that during WWII, russia and the US/Brit were going to each police half of the world, but with the fall of the ussr, we have to look after their half too :lol:

[Hamma]

I bet avail is thrilled at the path this thread has taken.

[avail]

Originally posted by Hamma
I bet avail is thrilled at the path this thread has taken.

:(

[Hamma]

:love:

http://www.dc101.com/poll/tiffani3.jpg

There. Can't go wrong.

[Gortha]

@CockRoach

The Iraq has no Missiles which can reach the USA.

@WRH_KoldFusion

WRH_KoldFusion:
"As far as one country policing the world..... well.... yes it is the job of one country. The world has put us in that role."

LooooooooooooooL did u fall on your head... i think it tooks some damage.

[KoldFusion]

GO AWAY NAZI. SHOO! If you guys didn't get such a hard on and get the 2 worst conflicts in the world going maybe your country would have an army to help. get back in line.

[Lexington_Steele]

in any forum

half naked women > war

[Arshune]

OMFG agreed. I love that picture, I should make it my wallpaper. :D

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by WRH_KoldFusion
First, the decision is not arbitrary. We told the world from the get go that we fight terrorism "where ever" it may be. We went ahead (stupidly IMO) and labeled Iran, Iraq, and N.Korea as the axis of evil. The US does not have to make the case here.... Saddam has made the case against himself over the last 12 years. This is not as petty as scapegoating. I'll tell you whos next... N. Korea
As far as one country policing the world..... well.... yes it is the job of one country. The world has put us in that role. Wether they like us or not. For example.... when the war on terror started, many of the middle east nations said to the US..." come over and fix Isreal and Palestine", what would have happened if the US and a few allies didn't intervene in Bosnia to stop the ethnic cleansing that milosevich was performing. You see the world is content to stand on the sidelines and allow this atrocities to occur. Their actions stop at nothing but petty talk. Take the UN and the Iraq situation. I have said this before and I'll say it again.... When resolution 1441 was passed unanimously with the language "serious consequences" not a single one of the countries thought that meant when non-compliance is evident to give him sore time by adding inspectors via a new resolution. They knew it meant the use of military force. But as history has shown the french a spineless snakes and russia still can't be trusted... Germany... well Germany is lucky it is still it's own country after the first 2 world wars (so they should STFU). Bottom line is this.... the UN has done a fine job of making them as irrelevant as the league of nations which dissolved BTW b/c it was useless. The UN should do the same and a new charter should be made. Yes the USA should make the decision since noone else will. (see my other posts on this matter b/c i don't want to type it all again.) "war is immenent" "N. Korea or Iraq"
The arguement about the increased anger in the arab world toward the US does have merit. But your damned if you do and damned if you don't. I do believe the goal of wiping out terrorism is an unattainable goal... however, I do believe terrorist should be confronted and fought at every oppotunity one way or the other.

Why does the US police the world? Because it is in the interest of the US to police the world. Do you really think that, while policing the world, the US does not put the US first and the rest of the world second?

Terrorism did not begin on 9/11. Where was our war on terrorism before 9/11?

If we are allowed to term french as spineless snakes and say that russia can not be trusted, why can't they say things about us? Why aren't those countries acting altruistically the way you suggest the US is.

ROFL @ the germany comment. What would you have done with germany after world war 2? Would you have made it part of the US or Russia?

The concerns of a German, a Russian, or a Frenchman are not less important than the concern of an American. In fact since they are all closer to Iraq than the US, their concerns might be more important.

You see all these countries acting in their own self interest. Why can't you see that the US is doing the same?

[Tobias]

Nothing silences us nerds like boobies.

[Arshune]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
ROFL @ the germany comment. What would you have done with germany after world war 2? Would you have made it part of the US or Russia?
I'd just like to say a few things about WWII, especially regarding Germany. Yes, they were led by a madman, yes they killed a lot of innocent people, and yes they acted in an unwarrantedly aggressive manner. However, in the decades following WWII, Stalin killed 60 million of his own citizens compared to Hitler's 6 million. Germany didn't have a lot of options for recovery after WWI, the reparations were so high that about the only way they could have possibly gotten by was conquest. Russia also actively tried to cover the world with a blanket of communism. So if I were you guys, I'd look on Russia with a LOT more distaste than Germany. Oh, and we DID give Germany to Russia and the US, half and half each.

P.S.-this isn't really directed at you Lex, just kind of throwing that info out into the air. I only quoted you so people would know what issue I'm addressing. :D

[Lexington_Steele]

Lets also remeber that Russia is no longer being led by Stalin and Communism fell. There is no USSR anymore.

Lets not judge countries by governments that have long since fallen and leaders that have been in their graves for some time now.

Lets judge them by the actions of their current administrations, and how they have handled themselves in the last 15 years or so.

[Arshune]

I meant in relation to him mocking the Germans because they were being bad during WWII.

In the present, they're both kind of obscure to me. I don't concern myself with current events too much and neither of them makes anything that I like to eat.

And communism didn't fall yet, we still have 3 holdouts.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Arshune
And communism didn't fall yet, we still have 3 holdouts.
I meant in Russia. :)

[Derfud]

Yeah, but commies are soooo cool!

[Arshune]

Communism actually has a pretty good idea at its heart, it just doesn't work if there's even the most rudimentary form of economy present...so unless you own a small island with less than 100 people on it and no money to be seen, the whole thing hits the fan. :(

[OneManArmy]

I'd have to disagree there, Communism is a horrible form of goverment. Its whats inbetween Communism and Capitalism thats the gooey tasty center.. mmm.... gooey..... :drools:

[Toimu]

How many Arab countries were upset about 911 or the Anthrax? NONE! So why should we care that they don't want us to go to war with Iraq?

[Lexington_Steele]

Actually the leaders of many Arab countries sent their condolences.

Even PLO leader Yassir Arafat sent his condolences.

Being Arab does not equate to enjoying the death of innocents.

[OneManArmy]

and more importantly they want to appear to be on our good side...

[Headrattle]

Actually Communism is basedon Marx's idea for a Utopia. And we all know that there is no such thing as a Utopia.

Basicly, everyone is judged based on what they do and how important that job is. Your statis is based on how important you are to the community as a whole. Not a bad idea.

Untill you get power hungry leaders.
Untill you have to decide which role is more important.
Untill you put large numbers of real humans into the mix.
That is when it all falls apart.

As for this quote
"But as history has shown the french a spineless snakes..."
Depends on how far back in history you want to go back. They held off the Germans in WWI. In WWII they were just stomped. They went to Vietnam before we did. And lets not forget Nepolean, He tried to take over europe, and his country suffered because of that. It hasn't been a superpower since.

Bottom line is this.... the UN has done a fine job of making them as irrelevant as the league of nations which dissolved BTW b/c it was useless.

Useless because many of the countries don't want to do what America wants? You do know that is one of the reasons most of the world hates us right? Most of the world believes that we are practicing colonialism.
Invading Iraq, while morally correct (more or less) only renforces this idea.

Oh, andthis isn't a war on terrorism. Terrorists are not a soverign nation, and they are not trying to create one. They are criminals, nothing more. The most evil and hardest to catch of all of the crimanals. But still criminals.
Try to keep that in mind.

[Derfud]

The thing that makes Communism better than capitolism is that it will fall apart when the power hungry leaders come into the scene, but with capitolism the system stays intact, and gradually starts screwing over the population and no one notices.

[OneManArmy]

but, you are also forgetting the lazy asses who wont do anything because they get paid no matter what. for ex.

jim works in a shoe factory, He gets 20 bucks a day if he makes 10 shoes or 50 shoes, it doesn't matter if the shoes are even wearable, he still gets 20 bucks a day. So he stops caring about quality, and so forth and so on.


capitalism breed quality, because everyone wants to make money, and in order to make money you have to have the better product. In communism its basically all goverment controlled with no competition.

[Headrattle]

That is true Army. And that is how it was in was Russia. It was a matter of pride, but that dropped off rather early.

once again, damn humans screw everything up.

[Derfud]

Yes i know Army....


Stupid Humans....

[Bighoss]

communism looks like a good idea on paper but it doesn't work out because no one counts on human error... luckily I don't make any:D