The Cycler ARV

[RodenyC]

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426431_322460684465216_209775182400434_992802_2069 351515_n.jpg
Cycler ARV (Automatic Rifle Variant) - The high modularity of the Cycler weapon system allows Heavy Assault solders to field the battlefield with variants outfitted with heavy 20' barrels and 100 round drum magazines. The slight loss in accuracy is more than made up for in sustained fire and makes any Heavy Assault soldier deadly at close range. - [Virrago]

[Zulthus]

Here, this might help people out.

http://www.planetside2.com/news/jan282012weapons

[Conq]

I keep seeing the words "at close range" on TR guns. Is that just a TR thing?

[SKYeXile]

I keep seeing the words "at close range" on TR guns. Is that just a TR thing?

both these guns (Cycler ARV and MCG) we have seen are for the heavy assault, the close range "tank" sorta class.

[BlazingSun]

The gun looks a bit strange .. but it might be the angle. In my opinion it might look better if it wasn't as long (and instead a bit bulkier on the sides?).

PS.: That drum magazine never holds 100 rounds. ;)

Edit: I had to do it ... might be a bit too short now, but I'm getting my point across I think. (Not that it will make any difference)

http://korndemon.lima-city.de/PS2-Cycler2.jpg

Edit 2: Thinking about it again it might look better if the barrel at the front was shorter and the rest would stay the same.

[xSquirtle]

Looks more like a rifle

[Bags]

Looks stupid, and why would a rifle like that be close quarter?

[Oryon22]

RPK baby

[Raelity]

I think this is the LMG variant of the Cycler, with that long barrel and drum mod. If you cut it off mentally just after the forward ironsight you get a more normal assault rifle shape.

[Knocky]

The Devs said that we will have a choice of HA.

This is probably the longer range HA as opposed to the MCG.

[CutterJohn]

20' barrels

Oh my...

[Hmr85]

Its missing the tripod for deploying that baby and laying down some suppressive fire.

[Sirisian]

Maybe it's like the HSR? That's what I thought when looking at it.

[SKYeXile]

hey does anybody know if this gun was ever confirmed as the cycler?

or was a cycler simply mentioned and we assumed it was it?

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/screenshots/tpblog2.jpg

[Lonehunter]

That's another variant of the Cycler, we've also seen one with basically no barrel at all

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

I wanna know how this compares to an MCG, seems almost the same from the description. If the LMGs are ment for up close, low accuracy sustained fire, they work as an alternative for NC and VS, but don't really make sense for TR.

[RadarX]

hey does anybody know if this gun was ever confirmed as the cycler?

or was a cycler simply mentioned and we assumed it was it?

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/screenshots/tpblog2.jpg

I can confirm you will know by this time tomorrow. :)

[ratfusion]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404867_319061914805093_209775182400434_984452_1422 67322_n.jpg

Pretty sure from the outline we already know the answer.

I really liked the smoother model in that earlier screenshot and assumed it was the Cycler. If this is an earlier iteration can we have it back? The model just revealed is too clunky, looks like something the NC would bash together.

I really thought the teardrop drum of the original Cycler was iconic, I'm sad to see it not coming back.


It is mentioned that this weapon is for heavy assault, shouldn't this be the longer range option to the MCG (as the MCG doesn't have sights and likely wont' be accurate at great ranges). A short ranged LMG doesn't make sense.

[CuddlyChud]

I think they mean this is the heavier version of the cycler, so it has less range than the normal MA cycler.

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

I really liked the model in this screenshot and assumed it was the Cycler. If this is an earlier iteration can we have it back? The model just revealed is to clunky, looks like something the NC would slop together.

The model in that SS is the cycler in its MA form that will be used by the Light Assault class. The version in the OP is the HA version of a cycler.

[ratfusion]

The model in that SS is the cycler in its MA form that will be used by the Light Assault class. The version in the OP is the HA version of a cycler.

No I understand that this is the light machine gun variant of the Cycler assault rifle and not the normal Cycler. But the teaser outline screenshot confirms that the Cycler must be the last unrevealed weapon, and looks like the shorter version of this Cycler ARV, and not like that smoother weapon from the earlier screenshot.

[Pillow]

20 inch barrel short range gun??? :confused::confused:
That gun makes no sense.

[SKYeXile]

No I understand that this is the light machine gun variant of the Cycler assault rifle and not the normal Cycler. But the teaser outline screenshot confirms that the Cycler must be the last unrevealed weapon, and looks like the shorter version of this Cycler ARV, and not like that smoother weapon from the earlier screenshot.

i think the the one i liked may still be around, but as an SMG, more equivalent to the pulsar. you will notice both have no under rail attachments.

[EVILPIG]

hey does anybody know if this gun was ever confirmed as the cycler?

or was a cycler simply mentioned and we assumed it was it?

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/screenshots/tpblog2.jpg

That's the Carbine.

[Impen]

20 inch barrel short range gun??? :confused::confused:
That gun makes no sense.

Actually it says 20 foot barrel. I think the close range refers to low orbit space ships.

[Notso]

20 inch barrel short range gun??? :confused::confused:
That gun makes no sense.

yeah with a barrel like that youd think itd have a better range than the "regular" cycler

[Levente]

one thing i dont like so far are some weapon designs, like this one. that long cylinder how it sticks out it just looks crap , sorry to say : (

[FIREk]

I can confirm you will know by this time tomorrow. :)

<3

[Toonlad]

Absolutely hideous looking, if its for cqb then it should be short and compact, you run about looking like a pole vaulter with that THING !!!!

Is this the start of the silly designs creeping in. Please chop at least 16" off the thing.

Really keep it with in the ethos of plantside not this horrible Bang stick.

[SKYeXile]

Absolutely hideous looking, if its for cqb then it should be short and compact, you run about looking like a pole vaulter with that THING !!!!

Is this the start of the silly designs creeping in. Please chop at least 16" off the thing.

Really keep it with in the ethos of plantside not this horrible Bang stick.

the whole heavy class is made for close quarters, this looks to be the gun that while still decent in CQC, but has some range on it so it can at least offer suppression fire at distances.

I think it will look rather small when a heavy is holding it :)

Higby, make that screenshot happen. MCG too.

[Knightwyvern]

Hmm. Like others have said, it feels weird to me that this would be a "short range" version of the cycler. I mean, the primary reason to extend a barrel is to give more range and accuracy, not less of both or either. LMG are not meant to be CQB weapons, though they can be used for such in a pinch. Just too heavy and unwieldy. They are best used at medium to long range for suppression and ground control over an area vs infantry and occasionally light vehicles.

[Shamrock]

If its a short range suppressive SMG it would look the part with a shorter barrel. Im wondering if the longer barrel is a side-grade option or comes as standard? As far as im aware you cant prone position, otherwise a tripod on the longer barrel would have looked the part.

AR15 conversion on auto m16 belt fed Valkyrie Armament - YouTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=c7UR1cYZmm8

[acosmo]

Hmm. Like others have said, it feels weird to me that this would be a "short range" version of the cycler. I mean, the primary reason to extend a barrel is to give more range and accuracy, not less of both or either. LMG are not meant to be CQB weapons, though they can be used for such in a pinch. Just too heavy and unwieldy. They are best used at medium to long range for suppression and ground control over an area vs infantry and occasionally light vehicles.

god damn. seriously. ^

[basti]

100 rounds? Woha

I really hope the VS get something similar. I love the "rapid constant fire" stuff. But i love lasers a bit more. Now combining both, hurrrrrr :D

[Hamma]

I'm sure all the empires will have similar variants.
I can confirm you will know by this time tomorrow. :)

Yay!

[acosmo]

100 rounds? Woha

I really hope the VS get something similar. I love the "rapid constant fire" stuff. But i love lasers a bit more. Now combining both, hurrrrrr :D

i bet the minigun has 200! :evil:

[SKYeXile]

100 rounds? Woha

I really hope the VS get something similar. I love the "rapid constant fire" stuff. But i love lasers a bit more. Now combining both, hurrrrrr :D

VORTEX WHIP!

[BlazingSun]

Seems like we have seen the standard Cycler in screenshots already (though it lacks a magazine in these shots it seems) http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1832
For an assault rifle it has an appropiate lenght, but the Cycler CQC variant is indeed a bit too long, now that I have seen this screenshot.

Edit: That's what the Cycler ARV would look like when beeing held by a soldier (the black overlay). The angle is not quite right, but the overall length from this perspective should be pretty close to what it would look like I think.

http://korndemon.lima-city.de/PS-Cycler3.jpg

[Ale]

How long is a G36k? MG36? MG3? RPK? PKP? M60? M240b? C9? the LMG version of the L85? What about .50 cals? A long, heavy, barrel is a staple on both heavy and light machine guns.

The mentioning of close range effectiveness means damage output based on a large round, not handling mechanics or ease of use in CQC, and the suppressive fire bit is the clincher... this is a medium range LMG.

[Vancha]

Edit: That's what the Cycler ARV would look like when beeing held by a soldier (the black overlay). The angle is not quite right, but the overall length from this perspective should be pretty close to what it would look like I think.
It might be, if Cycler ARV's weren't solely available to these guys (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1686).

[SKYeXile]

I can confirm you will know by this time tomorrow. :)

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

[Knocky]

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

Heh....he has till 12:51 tomorrow morning.

:)

[BlazingSun]

How long is a G36k? MG36? MG3? RPK? PKP? M60? M240b? C9? the LMG version of the L85?

Not as long as this gun here.

It might be, if Cycler ARV's weren't solely available to these guys (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1686).

Are these guys taller or what?


Anyway ... I`ll just wait and see what it looks like in game. :groovy:

[Vancha]

Are these guys taller or what?
Possibly. They're certainly a hell of a lot bulkier.

[EVILPIG]

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.


I already answered this for you.

[SKYeXile]

I already answered this for you.

They said the sawnoff version we have seen of that gun was a carbine variant, but not what that gun actually is, thought one would presume obviously lower caliber than the Cycler.

Pretty gay calling a weapon a carbine if there isn't a larger version of it that uses the majority of the same parts.

[super pretendo]

weapon enthusiasts, like any enthusiasts, will be disappointing when their level of detail and knowledge is not matched by the producers of whatever.

[SKYeXile]

weapon enthusiasts, like any enthusiasts, will be disappointing when their level of detail and knowledge is not matched by the producers of whatever.

Carbine been a more compact gun isn't really detailed knowledge :P

[Canaris]

Cycler RPK..... love it!

[Aaron]

Looks sweet! But why would it have low accuracy if it has such a long barrel?

[Rbstr]

The reason it's less accurate is simply a design choice. They don't want the machine gun to be a better Assault rifle than the Assault rifle.

I, personally, like it. Devs, you're making it hard to pick my side, when you make the TR stuff look decent.

[Coreldan]

Look at the bore size :D Realistically speaking the round won't even be half of that in diameter, so how could it come out accurately from a barrel like that, no matter how long?! :D (ok, just realized u cant see the bore diameter in that pic, but in the normal cycler pic you can).

They need to add some default muzzlebreak kind of thing or make the bore size smaller cos it looks absolutely ridicilous atm :D

But yea, seriously speaking what Rbstr said. Balance > Realism.

I, too, am a sucker for weapons and weapon mechanisms IRL (been competing for years as well as own several guns of my own), but I try not to bring in the RL stuff too hard into games, cos RL does not know these "balance" and "overpowered" thing at all. The point of RL weapons is usually to kill, not to have a fair fight :D

[NewSith]

Looks sweet! But why would it have low accuracy if it has such a long barrel?

I think they mean sustained fire accuracy... Try to make two double-barrel shotgun shots one instantly after the other, you'll see what long barrel does =)

[Brokinarrow]

Looks stupid, and why would a rifle like that be close quarter?

Yeah.... 20" barrel does not equal close quarters. The standard M-16 has a 20 inch barrel and a max effective range of 500 yards for a point target...