got nc launcher?

[SuperMorto]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg858/scaled.php?tn=0&server=858&filename=g6kmy.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[SKYeXile]

It looks so pov, lol.

[Coreldan]

Before anyone wonders, that is from Trays twitter.

I'm not sure if I like the looks of that thing. Looks a bit too much like a DIY/makeshift weapons.

Oh well, at least it makes them Prowlers and Magriders go boom.

The blue seems a bit too light? And I think theres perhaps a bit too much of it, perhaps a bit more grey/black/something so it wouldnt look so much like a toy gun :D

Also the front grip looks.. weird. I would go for some a bit more traditional design. Perhaps just "cut off" the extra from the front grip that continues towards the end of the launcher.

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

Is it camera controlled again tho?

[Coreldan]

Phoenix was said to be laser guided, however they are gonna implement that, no more camera controlled. That could however be just a "generic" rocket launcher, something like an ES Decimator instead of the next-gen Phoenix.

[Gandhi]

As an homage to the Red Green Show I'd love it if one NC weapon had even a little bit of duct tape on it. This looks like a good candidate... that shoulder rest? Just replace the bland looking padding with some duct tape :D

[Magpie]

Looks like sonthink I could buy for a kid to play with.... Looks cheap and like a plastic toy lol

Is it one of them nerf remakes?!

[Knocky]

I'm not sure if I like the looks of that thing. Looks a bit too much like a DIY/makeshift weapons.


Sadly we NC are ragamuffins in PS2. :cry:

[DviddLeff]

I would add some more metal to it to replace some of the blue like Coreldan said.

Still, love the shape of it.

[Hmr85]

I actually love the look of the thing. I can foresee many Magriders and prowlers going boom in my future. I like that thrown together we are salvaging what we can to fight look of it.

[Vancha]

It does look somewhat kid-oriented with such a bright blue. Simply darkening it might work.

[BlazingSun]

I'm tending more and more to the Terran Republik :(.

I like that thrown together we are salvaging what we can to fight look of it.

I don't .. at all.

[Hmr85]

It does look somewhat kid-oriented with such a bright blue. Simply darkening it might work.

I would say lets wait to see a in game shot of it. It might be a lot darker than that. That just looks like concept art to me.

[Hmr85]

I'm tending more and more to the Terran Republik :(.



I don't .. AT ALL.

To each their own I guess. I think it looks pretty good. I do agree it could be a tad darker.

[Vancha]

I would say lets wait to see a in game shot of it. It might be a lot darker than that. That just looks like concept art to me.

I was going to say actually, the picture looks like it could be somewhat over-exposed.

[MrBlip]

I like the way it looks, but the color seems very off.

I almost feel like it should be a solid metal-silver color with gold trim.

[Goku]

I like the way it looks, but the color seems very off.

I almost feel like it should be a solid metal-silver color with gold trim.

I agree with this. While I find the NC soldiers lacking blue, this weapon has far too much. The overall design is great though.

[Tikuto]

There's too much blue. :rolleyes:

[Graywolves]

I see the NC blue and I want to paint it red.

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

I don't know that its too much blue, just too much Powder Blue, needs to be a lot darker. It looks wierd as a box, but I think its not circular anymore like the MCG no longer has a Tribarrle or Triforce, because they dont fit the "empire design" (NC=squares, TR=circles, vs=triangles).

[Mastachief]

I'm really not a fan of this, i think they are taking the NC have salvaged all their weapons too far.

[Pillow]

Rolling Stones - Paint it Black LYRICS - YouTube

[Baron]

Surprised no one has mentioned the railing structure (top & bottom) for this weapon. My guess is that with sidegrades, you could make this weapon system look very different.

[Zhane]

Eh, it's okay, but it does look very... Nerfy.

[Zulthus]

I like it. The NC are people who salvage everything together so this is right up their alley. The design is not bad at all but I do agree with everyone else and say that the color could be a bit darker with a bit less blue all around.

[Hamma]

Rehosted!

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1864

[Coreldan]

I like it. The NC are people who salvage everything together so this is right up their alley. The design is not bad at all but I do agree with everyone else and say that the color could be a bit darker with a bit less blue all around.

I don't agree with this part. Lorewise we have the CEOs of companies back in terrans. We have mercenaries as the bodyguards of these people. Sure, we also have the guerilla-like people, but mercenaries hired by company CEOs do not have to operate with some fucking salvage crap.

[Vancha]

I don't agree with this part. Lorewise we have the CEOs of companies back in terrans. We have mercenaries as the bodyguards of these people. Sure, we also have the guerilla-like people, but mercenaries hired by company CEOs do not have to operate with some fucking salvage crap.

You seem to assume the industry titans that are on our side are producers of military equipment.

[Graywolves]

I don't agree with this part. Lorewise we have the CEOs of companies back in terrans. We have mercenaries as the bodyguards of these people. Sure, we also have the guerilla-like people, but mercenaries hired by company CEOs do not have to operate with some fucking salvage crap.

They do when they're stuck on an alien world and a totalitarian group has control over all the military weapons from Earth.

[Hmr85]

They do when they're stuck on an alien world and a totalitarian group has control over all the military weapons from Earth.

yep, I agree

[Lonehunter]

I don't see any kind of mounted camera on there, but the video feed could always go strait to your visor. (If the Phoenix mechanic is returning)

[Coreldan]

It was confirmed Phoenix won't be camera controlled like it was, but "laser guided".

[Zulthus]

Oh, yippee. NC get a Javelin. Brb maximizing top armor

[Shotokanguy]

Just make it the same color as the Phoenix, IMO. It's a dark blue, basically. Still looks like a material a weapon could be made out of. Otherwise, I think it looks fine.

Frankly, however, I think it's bullcrap that they're removing the camera fire from the Phoenix. Just...unbelievable. I sure hope it's not because they thought it was too powerful because that's just ridiculous reasoning. It was a one of a kind weapon, fun to use.

[Graywolves]

Just make it the same color as the Phoenix, IMO. It's a dark blue, basically. Still looks like a material a weapon could be made out of. Otherwise, I think it looks fine.

Frankly, however, I think it's bullcrap that they're removing the camera fire from the Phoenix. Just...unbelievable. I sure hope it's not because they thought it was too powerful because that's just ridiculous reasoning. It was a one of a kind weapon, fun to use.

Phoenix sniping was the most annoying thing in the game and should never come back in this game or any other.

[Zulthus]

Just make it the same color as the Phoenix, IMO. It's a dark blue, basically. Still looks like a material a weapon could be made out of. Otherwise, I think it looks fine.

Frankly, however, I think it's bullcrap that they're removing the camera fire from the Phoenix. Just...unbelievable. I sure hope it's not because they thought it was too powerful because that's just ridiculous reasoning. It was a one of a kind weapon, fun to use.

I'm glad they are, it's finally balanced. You shouldn't be able to sit behind a hill, unable to be fired upon, and your whole team is spamming rockets into the base. The Phoenix needs to be on par with the Lancer/Striker. They are finally fixing it.

[Shotokanguy]

You're talking as if there's nothing they could've done to balance it.

[Graywolves]

You're talking as if there's nothing they could've done to balance it.

Exactly, the way to balance it was to take it out.

[Vancha]

I think the game's probably better off without the Phoenix being how it was in Planetside. It wasn't unbalanced so much as it's existence seemed devoted to being annoying.

[Zulthus]

I think the game's probably better off without the Phoenix being how it was in Planetside. It wasn't unbalanced so much as it's existence seemed devoted to being annoying.

That's a better way of wording it. It wasn't exactly unbalanced.

[Graywolves]

I think the game's probably better off without the Phoenix being how it was in Planetside. It wasn't unbalanced so much as it's existence seemed devoted to being annoying.

Yes

[Hmr85]

Phoenix sniping was the most annoying thing in the game and should never come back in this game or any other.

I only used for that purpose on annoying ass snipers that had nothing better to do. I am man enough to admit it. With that said, I agree its probably for the best the camera option is gone. Balancing and all.

[GTGD]

The Phoenix was only effective as a group, it was way too slow to be really effective alone. It was also really annoying. I too used it to piss off snipers and engineers who insisted on covering land with CE.

I like this change, though it will probably still be pretty garbage if it's single shot.

[Knocky]

I'm glad they are, it's finally balanced. You shouldn't be able to sit behind a hill, unable to be fired upon, and your whole team is spamming rockets into the base. The Phoenix needs to be on par with the Lancer/Striker. They are finally fixing it.


Are you frikken kidding me?

You think it's OP because you can fire it from behind a rock?

You VS get those rapid fire AV sniper rifles aka Lancer, the TR get their fire and forget missiles and we NC get to fire one missile every 10 seconds...and you think WE got the best AV missile? :huh:

[Graywolves]

Are you frikken kidding me?

You think it's OP because you can fire it from behind a rock?

You VS get those rapid fire AV sniper rifles aka Lancer, the TR get their fire and forget missiles and we NC get to fire one missile every 10 seconds...and you think WE got the best AV missile? :huh:

Yes.

[Zulthus]

Are you frikken kidding me?

You think it's OP because you can fire it from behind a rock?

You VS get those rapid fire AV sniper rifles aka Lancer, the TR get their fire and forget missiles and we NC get to fire one missile every 10 seconds...and you think WE got the best AV missile? :huh:

Uh-huh.

[Hmr85]

It was a tad op. I mean be honest with yourself. When you and 5 other guys can hide behind a hill and take out enemy vehicles at will and not have to expose your self to incoming fire like the other factions. ./shrug

Game play wise, yeah, just a tad. Real world wise I'll take any advantage I could get.

If where gonna make this game balanced get rid of the VS direct fire laser beam of death and give everybody auto lock on or self guided with a beam if you can keep it on target. :P

[Bags]

Lancer > Phoenix > Striker

[SKYeXile]

I'm glad they are, it's finally balanced. You shouldn't be able to sit behind a hill, unable to be fired upon, and your whole team is spamming rockets into the base. The Phoenix needs to be on par with the Lancer/Striker. They are finally fixing it.

LOL Your complaining about the Phoenix been changed? it was the shittiest thing NC had...its DPS was terrible and it left you completely vulnerable. Iv done somany passes along nc base walls in a skeeter and taken out +3 phoenix users in a single 120kmph+ straif.

[texico]

Lmfao. I'd have traded the Phoenix for the Lancer in a heart-beat.


Anyway, we have rechargeable shields now don't we? The annoyingness of having to heal minor damage all the time is gone ;)

[Zulthus]

It's not the fact that their damage was shit. It's how many NC fired them and that you couldn't fire back. They didn't have to risk getting shot to destroy all of your CE, turrets, terminals, etc. Striker/Lancer users had to risk getting shot to do anything.

[Vancha]

Yeah, the Phoenix was unrivaled in annoyingness, but I think you're severely under-appreciating the Lancer if you think five phoenixes behind a rock would achieve more than five lancers sniping tanks and BFRs in unison (I'm not saying it's OP, it's just very, very nice.)

[Zulthus]

Not at all. I use the Lancer daily and it is the best concentrated fire AV weapon there is.

[Shotokanguy]

They could always just reduce the turn radius on the Phoenix missile, if the big thing was that it can be fired from behind cover.

But jeez, is that a big deal? I would've figured the fact that it can hit enemies that are behind cover would be more annoying.

Keep in mind this is from a NC perspective.

[Hmr85]

They could always just reduce the turn radius on the Phoenix missile, if the big thing was that it can be fired from behind cover.

But jeez, is that a big deal? I would've figured the fact that it can hit enemies that are behind cover would be more annoying.

Keep in mind this is from a NC perspective.

It was both that they don't like.

[NewSith]

Are you frikken kidding me?

You think it's OP because you can fire it from behind a rock?

You VS get those rapid fire AV sniper rifles aka Lancer, the TR get their fire and forget missiles and we NC get to fire one missile every 10 seconds...and you think WE got the best AV missile? :huh:

You dirty flamebaiter...

[Hmr85]

Good example of the VS lancer with moar music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqz0iH95hk

[Knocky]

You dirty flamebaiter...

I am NOT dirty! I took a shower this morning and the Old Spice is still spicin in the pits.

I simply took umbrage at the false assertions made by the mind numbed VS robot.

One who has finally admitted that the Lancer is the most powerful AV in PS.

Phoenix drivers are nothing more the cloaker/sniper bait....period.

[NewSith]

I am NOT dirty! I took a shower this morning and the Old Spice is still spicin in the pits.

I simply took umbrage at the false assertions made by the mind numbed VS robot.

One who has finally admitted that the Lancer is the most powerful AV in PS.

Phoenix drivers are nothing more the cloaker/sniper bait....period.

Whatever you say...

[Tasorin]

Phoenix was said to be laser guided, however they are gonna implement that, no more camera controlled. That could however be just a "generic" rocket launcher, something like an ES Decimator instead of the next-gen Phoenix.

Next Gen-Phoenix should be something like: Mark - Lock - Fire - Forget & an alt Dumb fire mode.

Hopefully the advantage to the Phoenix 2.0 will be something like a shorter lock cycle, a missile that is the toughest to shake, or hits the hardest vs. any hard target.

[TheBladeRoden]

NC make their weapons, MAXes, and homes out of cardboard boxes.

[atone]

its Blue! Normally i'm against the excessive colorization of weapons and equipment, but this for some reason This I like. I guess its the juxtaposition of its candy color and the serious damage it looks like it can do. i find that humorous. it looks like it was cut from the support structure of some old mine tunnel and re purposed to forcefully ventilate the hull of a tank. very guerrilla :thumbsup:

[Zulthus]

I am NOT dirty! I took a shower this morning and the Old Spice is still spicin in the pits.

I simply took umbrage at the false assertions made by the mind numbed VS robot.

One who has finally admitted that the Lancer is the most powerful AV in PS.

Phoenix drivers are nothing more the cloaker/sniper bait....period.

You obviously have not been reading this whole thread. This was never about who has the best or worst AV. Before you call me mind numbed, maybe you should reread until you can finally figure out what we're talking about.

[Shotokanguy]

Zulthus, are you being serious with these posts? He was clearly being lighthearted there, why are you so serious all the time?

[Knocky]

/sigh.....

Very well...moving on. :rolleyes:

[Zulthus]

That doesn't translate very well over the internet.

[sylphaen]

I think it looks a bit too blueish because the pic is oversaturated. T-Ray phone cam may not be as blurry as Higby's but it definitely is very vibrant with colors.
^^

Now while the lancer was my definitely my favorite AV, coordinated (there is a reason why friendly Phoenix missiles showed on the minimap) players shooting a stream of 6 phoenixes together towards your tank with high unlikeliness of missing was... powerful. And deadly. The VS vehicles did not have a ton of armor like the vanguards did.

They were also the bane of MAXes.

The Striker felt like the weakest since it may rarely have killed vehicles due to the lock on but it also made enemy vehicles push back.

A shared problem with strikers and phoenixes is they gave away your location. The great plus of the Lancer was near-instant hit on target and not giving away your location (however, it was easier to miss a shot).

[Knocky]

That doesn't translate very well over the internet.

You sir are very correct.

[Graywolves]

Zulthus, are you being serious with these posts? He was clearly being lighthearted there, why are you so serious all the time?

This is why we can't have nice things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Figment]

I'm not sure about you lot, but the industrial theme doesn't surprise or annoy me so much - as I'm more surprised it's a rectangular beam with a square profile and random triangles to support ...forces... that... work in... the plain... of the side?


I can't recall any cannon or bazooka that has a rectangular structure...I mean the force of the expanding air inside on the seems would be ginormous. Clearly this must be a super sci-fi high tech weapon as it'll fire laser guided composite aerodynamic bricks. *nods*


Sorry, am simply a bit confused about the design of the barrel. >.> Maybe you can stack them easier in piles now? I dunno. Must be some reason for that. Maybe they ran out of round piping due to the Conglomerate's new sewage system?


(EDIT: probably the internal barrel is round, still looks a bit silly)

[Hmr85]

Its to help guide the fins of the rocket at its target. So think of a rail system inside the launcher with each fin on a rail. ./shrug.

Also just because its square on the outside doesn't mean the actual tube inside isn't round.

[Coreldan]

Maybe you can stack them easier in piles now? I dunno.

It must be this.

[Rbstr]

The Phoenix, while fun to shoot and annoying to people hiding behind things, was a terrible AV weapon.

The DPS was simply pittiful. As a battery weapon, where you've got a dozen guys fireing at the same target, it was OK...but alone it wasn't worth crap.
A Max could autorun in and out of your range before you could kill him.

I can't recall any cannon or bazooka that has a rectangular structure...I mean the force of the expanding air inside on the seems would be ginormous.
It's called a recoilless rifle. (Yes, it's a rocket launcher, but they opperate in much the same manner - the tube is open at both ends, not closed at one)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoilless_rifle
Part of the point is that you don't need a really heavy barrel to shoot a big projectile, like you would with a traditional gun/cannon type thing.

But the reason these things are circular tubes is that's the shape of the projectile, Squares would have excess volume in the corners. Or a Square with a circular hole would have excess material. Lots of potential reasons, pressure containment isn't really one.

[Figment]

It's called a recoilless rifle. (Yes, it's a rocket launcher, but they opperate in much the same manner - the tube is open at both ends, not closed at one)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoilless_rifle
Part of the point is that you don't need a really heavy barrel to shoot a big projectile, like you would with a traditional gun/cannon type thing.

True. Forgot about the open back end taking most of the pressure off as the expanding gasses can exit in two weaker directions. :)

Still if something explodes inside of something there's a force that acts outwards onto the hull. The lightest solution is to use a tube, rather than a box of plate materials as you wouldn't get stress concentrations at the corners. Plus it probably takes less manhours to make. And of course weight/strength optimization is an important design factor, normally. :) But yeah, it's a game anyway.

But the reason these things are circular tubes is that's the shape of the projectile, Squares would have excess volume in the corners. Or a Square with a circular hole would have excess material. Lots of potential reasons, pressure containment isn't really one.

Accuracy through forced rotation around the main axis for stability would seem to be a good reason for a cilindrical shape? :)

As said though in the edit, I'd expect this to be more of an external visual thing. :) Patriot missile systems has a square external shape as well after all.

[sylphaen]

Knowing that it's an NC weapon, the reason for squared tubes must be all the magnets they add to make the pewpew launch faster.
:rolleyes:

[Figment]

Knowing that it's an NC weapon, the reason for squared tubes must be all the magnets they add to make the pewpew launch faster.
:rolleyes:

Could be an interesting idea, launch acceleration could be enhanced with magnets I suppose to require less fuel for launch on board the projectile and pack it with more explosives (MOAR!). :)

If we're looking at the mechanics now anyway, it is supposedly a laser guided rocket launcher, which I would expect means the rocket has a propellant next to stabiliser and control fins for use in flight. :) The rear end seems to be open which would suggest it does launch using some sort of fuel. Would be nice to have a Thundy Gauss cannon effect as well. :o

Because everything that has Thunderer DNA in it is instantly cool. :cool: