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brickbuster

2012-01-29, 06:05 PM

Hey guys, I'm just suggesting that perhaps SOE should make Planetside 1 FTP. Let's face it: Planetside 1 does not have very many people playing it, and the closing of the free trial has led to a decrease in the number of people even wanting to try it. Not to mention that with more people playing the game, planetside 2 will gain more attention and the game will be even more popular upon release. I undersand that SOE wants to maximize profits, but making the original free would be a nice advertizing move, and one that we planetside players would appreciate as well.

HitbackTR

2012-01-29, 06:31 PM

QFT

HitodamaKyrie

2012-01-29, 10:34 PM

I'd say I have to agree somewhat. At the very least, once PS2 comes out, Keep PS1 going, but make it free? It'd be kinda odd to go "PS2 is great, but I want some old school PS. Oh wait, I have to pay $15 to play it. Nevermind."

BigBossMonkey

2012-01-30, 12:54 AM

At the very least reactivate the subs of old players for a few months or something.

SKYeXile

2012-01-30, 01:04 AM

yea i dont think we want anybody thinking about playing PS2 to play PS1.

SuperMorto

2012-01-30, 05:11 AM

I pay and I play.

Crator

2012-01-30, 09:49 AM

PS1 SOE forums asking for just this. Posted back in 09/2011. No response yet: Free to play, fodderside 2.0? Something? (http://forums.station.sony.com/ps/posts/list.m?topic_id=88000028136)

CuddlyChud

2012-01-30, 10:43 AM

I don't think SOE would ever make PS1 free to play. The only source of income for PS1 is the sub. You're basically just asking them to run the servers for no chance of income whatsoever. From a marketing perspective, i'm sure the money they would lose running those servers would be better off making tv commercials or something.

Coreldan

2012-01-30, 10:50 AM

I wrote a long reply, but ze internet ate it, but Chud above pretty much TLDR-moded it.

But yeah, I'm fairly sure once PS2 goes live, they pull the plug on PS1. The only reason they still keep it up cos the subs create revenue, most likely a nonexistant amount, but as long as they are not losing money, why not? That's probably also why PS has nonexistant support, cos it would cost too much seeing everything.

PS going F2P till PS2 could work, but has some major downsides too. The game has outdated mechanics and graphics, not sure if it would be a good tool for promoting PS. The population even as F2P probably wouldnt be big enough to truly experience Planetside anymore. A huge thing is hackers, we already have a fair share of those, cheaters would infest this game and cos its not worth of them to support this game at any large scale, the playerbase would probably overall be left with a sour taste from the game going F2P. Not to mention, they would lose money in short term over making it F2P, naturally.

And if it counts for something, Im still subbed and playing.

duomaxwl

2012-01-30, 10:57 AM

As much as I'd love not to pay a sub, I think making it F2P would do more harm than good.

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Sirisian

2012-01-30, 02:51 PM

I take it you saw Everquest went F2P? (http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/30/its-official-everquest-goes-free-to-play/) Sadly such a model wouldn't work well for PS1 since it has no real security in place against hackers. Chances are the game will be shut down instead. I sent a tweet last year ago this actually (https://twitter.com/#!/Sirisian2/status/135948623711174658).

Atheosim

2012-01-30, 11:23 PM

I'm thinking that a month or two before PS2 launch they'll just reactivate all inactive PS1 accounts, and then pull the plug roughly at PS2 launch.

alienmoose

2012-01-30, 11:24 PM

C is right, hackers would ruin this. Having lilililiilillliiiilll kill potential PS2 buyers with his underground scat max would be bad for business.

Lonehunter

2012-01-31, 11:01 AM

They recently announced EQ was going Free to Play, so if they haven't for PS1 I'm afraid it'll just be shut down.

Warborn

2012-01-31, 12:20 PM

Keep PS1 pay-to-play so that potential PS2 players aren't turned off to the brand, and then shut it down when PS2 arrives.

Gonefshn

2012-01-31, 01:01 PM

I am also of the opinion going F2P is not a viable option.

Despite PS being the incredible game we all know it to be, I agree it is a poor advertisement for PS2. The game has a very large learning curve especially to get into it now. The game is also WAY past it's prime.

If planetside did anything wrong it was showing people how great the game actually was. I got my friend to play but only because I sat him down and spent an immense amount of time showing him the ropes. PS is absolutely a cult game, so I say for now we leave it for the faithful.

FirstChaos

2012-02-01, 09:34 PM

Yea just make it so people who had a subscription to PlanetSide are able to 2 play again. I don't have reason why i just don't wanna pay for no updates , no costumer support and flying scat maxes .

Baneblade

2012-02-01, 10:14 PM

SOE won't waste any dev time on PS1 now, the game is effectively dead now that PS2 is coming.

VioletZero

2012-02-02, 11:50 PM

Yeah, make it free so that I can try it out! :D

On the SOE side of things, it would be a good way to hype up PS2.

Mastachief

2012-02-03, 04:52 AM

Just give old account re-activation for a couple of months. This was done over a christmas period a few years ago

Atheosim

2012-02-03, 03:04 PM

Obviously opening PS1 to the public is a terrible idea, so reactivate old accounts for a month maybe two before PS2 or PS2 beta launches..

Tigersmith

2012-02-07, 10:21 AM

I wish they could but hackers would get outta control fast.

This game would be amazing FTP

TacosWLove

2012-02-07, 01:47 PM

We all wish :(

But it just doesnt have the anti hack support it needs and I'd rather seem them spend $$ on PS2 then anit hack support. Sure all it would take is a GM to be online all the time to get rid of most the major hackers, but then you have all the COF hack bastids that can be more difficult to spot.

Goku

2012-02-07, 03:02 PM

I think it would be great to make the game F2P for vets that have subbed for years. Although I do not think this is a good way to bring people to get interested in PS2. The game is just lacking compared to modern games and will likely turn people away from the game.

Crator

2012-02-07, 06:20 PM

No, but what giving PS1 vets free access does do is hopefully provide the game with enough people to play against for those people who are looking at PS2 and want to check out PS1 for the first time. BTW, there seems to be many new players in the game currently for this very reason.

Crator

2012-02-08, 08:27 PM

LONGFELLA KOJ

2012-02-08, 09:40 PM

Can anyone with an account that was previously subbed verify if this is true? Someone is saying they got 45 free days on the PS1 forums: is planetside 1 free to play ? (http://forums.station.sony.com/ps/posts/list.m?topic_id=88000028427)

It's from the day SOE got hacked by the super hacker group. Shut down all of the online networks. As a thanks they granted all players who have ever subbed any SOE game a free 45 days.

Crator

2012-02-08, 10:43 PM

Oh, I thought they only offered the free time up to a certain date.

Baneblade

2012-02-09, 01:18 PM

The last chance to take advantage of it was August.

Shanesan

2012-02-10, 12:33 AM

It can't be free. There needs to be something on the line.

Remove the monthly fees for those who already own it.
Charge $10 for those who want to play who haven't bought it.

That will keep out the hackers for the most part, especially after they're banned for the first time.

Goku

2012-02-10, 12:26 PM

EZShot

2012-02-11, 05:46 PM

Shanesan

2012-02-11, 08:06 PM

I just downloaded the direct2drive version of PS1, no subscription, been playing for a few hours...

Think old veterans should try to log in with their old accounts. Dont get how I got in without paying :huh:

If you didn't use the 45 days free after Sony got hacked and took all their services down, that's what you're burning now. Merry Christmas!

HitbackTR

2012-02-12, 01:54 AM

If you didn't use the 45 days free after Sony got hacked and took all their services down, that's what you're burning now. Merry Christmas!

o really?

Crator

2012-02-12, 09:48 AM

I beg to differ:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-soe-services-back-online-2473.htm

Firstly, as a Station Account holder in good standing, you will receive 45 days of game time (30 days plus 1 day for each day of the outage) added to your Station Account. This game time applies to any game you have currently or previously activated on your Station Account.

For those customers on an active paying plan, this time has been added to the end of your current billing cycle. For all other customers, your time begins upon your first login to each of the relevant games. Customers must login by 11:59 pm PST August 31, 2011 to claim the game time.

Shanesan

2012-02-12, 02:25 PM

I beg to differ:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-soe-services-back-online-2473.htm

Ah. Well, if he's new, then he's just using his first 30 days free.

EZShot

2012-02-13, 05:25 AM

I'm not new either, was playing on Werner in 2005 for a good 8-9 months.

I also used the free 45 days that were given right at the beginning.
EDIT: last year. not at first installation/registration

And the free 30 day trial that was run when I first joined.

So what's going on?

Yelena

2012-02-13, 01:53 PM

Goku

2012-02-13, 08:33 PM

Now that things are picking up for planetside 2 and its coming beta, i figured that i could try out the original and see what it was like. I was very surprised to find out that there was no trial option remaining or other free time. It makes no sense to subscribe to something that is clearly very dead and once the beta kicks off, likely in march, i hope to be doing that.

As a newcomer, who never played planetside, it does leave a poor impression, especially as i spent time reading over the forums to see just how bad things are in planetside at the moment.

Is hacking really such a concern when the game is surely about to be turned off anyway?

There are a lot of newcomers like myself who are seeking to get some interest and knowledge....planetside 1 should be a selling point, not some sort of graveyard that we have to pay to visit.

Hacking was a huge issue with the free trials. A hacker gets banned by a CSR to only be back on in minutes after creating a new account. This was actually driving paid subs away from the game. Which means SOE was losing money and the free trials at the time were not bringing in new subs.

If you are really interested in PS2 I suggest avoiding PS altogether. The games are going to be far different in how their being implemented. The only major similarities are the large fights, factions, and story line. You will likely only be turned off by the game due the poor state its in. SOE really has not supported the game properly for several years and its prime time was back in 2004ish. The game is old I really don't know what you were expecting, this runs on DX 8 lol.

Yelena

2012-02-14, 05:49 AM

Yup, very interested in planetside 2. I`ve been following its development for quite some time, especially as games like wow and sto all limited pvp to such a stupidly small scale. As a pvp fan, planetside 2 is the last beacon of hope for large scale, team based action.

This is probably why team fortress 2, which is an old game by today's standards, is so amazingly successful. There are so few games where you can actually plan, socialise and fight with a team these days.

Planetside 2 also brings back good memories of battlezone 1 and 2, which let you base build and actually go out in your vehicles in first person mode. Similar ideas too with the vanu and the battlezone sentient machine/ human hybrids.

One thing i really love about games like planetside and, say EVE online, is that you can really make history with them because of the large, persistent world that is so lacking in other mmo's and similar games. Groups of people can, by virtue of effort, change the game for everyone and do great things. You can have live news programmes covering big battles and they will be remembered for a long time to come. You really can be come, by popular agreement, the leaders of your faction and their public persona, capable of giving orders and getting them followed by countless people across the globe.

Everyone out there trying to kill WoW has been aiming in the wrong place and has just tried to beat it at its own game. The "massive" in MMO was where they should have aimed and the MMO-FPS has a chance of really making something new that stands up on its own. It had better do, too, otherwise all we have is EVE online and thats quite a toxic and negative community that just gets less pleasant every day.

Yelena

2012-02-14, 05:53 AM

I did know what to expect though, even though its old. I played TRIBES, back in the day, so i am guessing it looks a bit like that did. Even so, just seeing a small battle, even the limited ones that planetside offers today, is still much much better an impression of what planetside 2 will be like than anything else out there i could choose to look at, except perhaps some console games.

I watched a few playthroughs on youtube of some folks trying planetside out when the free trial was available and was impressed. It may seem like a shadow of what it was to all you veterans, but believe me, there is still nothing comparable out there and i`d love to see a free month where all the vets come back and do their stuff, with me getting some practice and just a taste of the scale and community.

Canaris

2012-02-14, 07:23 AM

I just downloaded the direct2drive version of PS1, no subscription, been playing for a few hours...

Think old veterans should try to log in with their old accounts. Dont get how I got in without paying :huh:

that a new account or an old accout?

well the answer is really the same.

New account - free 30 days of play then you put in your details, I did this when I gave my original to my brother. won't last

Old account - might still have some free play time on it from when SOE got hacked and they gave everyone free play time in lieu, won't last

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5339/11505085545993tw.gif

EZShot

2012-02-14, 09:59 AM

Old account - might still have some free play time on it from when SOE got hacked and they gave everyone free play time in lieu, won't last

Ok, we'll see how it goes. Definitely used the 45 days when SOE got attacked though...

DeathHaze

2012-02-14, 10:26 AM

Good idea over "free". Give vet's Trial Codes for 2 week trials, say 3-5 per vet. That way you have to contact someone to get a code, not just sign up for a trial account over and over and over. May get some new ppl in, as well as old vet's who would like to see the condition of the game before locking in for a month.