Please tell me I'm dreaming? [Archive]

BigBossMonkey

2012-02-08, 04:29 PM

this forum beginning to turn into Mordor like the BF3 Ea Uk forum. please dont. stop whining

Agreed. Constructive criticism and ideas are great, and we should definitely give the developers those... But this is what we're doing now.

Saintlycow

2012-02-08, 05:34 PM

this forum beginning to turn into Mordor like the BF3 Ea Uk forum. please dont. stop whining

Most of it is not whining. It's passion. People want a good game. Not rehashed COD

Aurmanite

2012-02-08, 05:37 PM

Most of it is not whining. It's passion. People want a good game. Not rehashed COD

No, there's some straight up whining. Some of the whining is passionate.

People don't have a god damn clue what they want.

basti

2012-02-08, 05:39 PM

Battlefield sized health bars?

What do you mean by that?

DayOne

2012-02-08, 05:39 PM

No, there's some straight up whining. Some of the whining is passionate.

People don't have a god damn clue what they want.

Well I want a burger...

(joke answer for a joke thread, 'nuff said)

Atheosim

2012-02-08, 05:41 PM

Get me some vegan baklava and I'm set.

Mastachief

2012-02-08, 05:49 PM

We want planetside with DX11 graphics , updated and functional netcode, the death of CSHD and bigger everything else.

Tikuto

2012-02-08, 05:49 PM

Well I want a burger...

(joke answer for a joke thread, 'nuff said)

No. I want a burger. :huh:

Aurmanite

2012-02-08, 05:53 PM

Well I want a burger...

(joke answer for a joke thread, 'nuff said)

You know what they call a quarter pounder in France?

Gortha

2012-02-08, 06:26 PM

Yeah, what means BF sized HealthBars?
Do you mean the faster TimeToKill with this? Faster paced Gameplay?

polywomple

2012-02-08, 06:29 PM

i think he means faster TTK

they never said it was as fast as BF, but somewhere in between BF and the original PS

DayOne

2012-02-08, 06:32 PM

i think he means faster TTK

they never said it was as fast as BF, but somewhere in between BF and the original PS

Remember the shields? With these we will likely have up to 3x "health". Even if TTK is the same as BF it will only be the same if you are shooting an Infil.

CrystalViolet

2012-02-08, 06:33 PM

I've always chuckled at the "every other shooter that's popular is teh sucks" people. Reminds me of console fanbois.

Lord Cosine

2012-02-08, 06:33 PM

I like health bars, I thought advanced targeting was awesome. Am I missing something?

"i think he means faster TTK"
-Ah derp.

Knightwyvern

2012-02-08, 06:38 PM

You know what they call a quarter pounder in France?

A .1134 kilogramer with cheese?

Lord Cosine

2012-02-08, 06:44 PM

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/pulp_fiction/samuel_l__jackson/pulp.jpg

Gortha

2012-02-08, 06:50 PM

Remember the shields? With these we will likely have up to 3x "health". Even if TTK is the same as BF it will only be the same if you are shooting an Infil.

Which shields?
Are u talkiong about the Implant Shield which consumes Stamina?

Tasorin

2012-02-08, 06:57 PM

No, there's some straight up whining. Some of the whining is passionate.

People don't have a god damn clue what they want.

I could have a clue if I got more then screen shots, back story, rehashed interviews and hype.

Some of us do know what we want in PS2, and right now its a matter of the nature of the beast while the game is still in development. Not being able to talk about Fight Club drives a metric shit ton of speculation about Fight Club.

But yes, the whining/speculation has gone off the chart since Jan.

DayOne

2012-02-08, 07:02 PM

Which shields?
Are u talkiong about the Implant Shield which consumes Stamina?

I'm pretty sure we have shields now instead of armour.

Rbstr

2012-02-08, 07:05 PM

We want planetside with DX11 graphics , updated and functional netcode, the death of CSHD and bigger everything else.

No, that's what you want. Some agree, some disagree, some think you should die in a fire.

Aurmanite

2012-02-08, 07:58 PM

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/pulp_fiction/samuel_l__jackson/pulp.jpg

mmm that is a tasty burger!

Neksar

2012-02-08, 08:13 PM

I could go for a royale with cheese about now...

Talek Krell

2012-02-08, 09:03 PM

I'm pretty sure we have shields now instead of armour.That statement is correct. Self-charging shields of varying capacity and protective value replace infantry armor. The underlying health bar remains.

CutterJohn

2012-02-08, 09:06 PM

Quick knife?
Battlefield sized health bars?
Kill cam?

Why?

Because you touch yourself at night.

cellinaire

2012-02-09, 12:18 AM

Surely, it's becoming hard to discriminate trolling/whining/grumbling from constructive criticism, nowadays.

Just saying.

Gortha

2012-02-09, 09:17 AM

I'm pretty sure we have shields now instead of armour.

I don´t think so.

Armor is Armor.

PS1 was:
Agile 100
Rexo 200
Max 650

It will be someting like this.

DayOne

2012-02-09, 09:20 AM

I don´t think so.

Armor is Armor.

PS1 was:
Agile 100
Rexo 200
Max 650

It will be someting like this.

Now it is rechargeable shields instead. It will probably be balanced by reducing the amount of shields or having a very slow recharge. Haven't heard much on the subject.

MooK

2012-02-09, 09:25 AM

Quick knife?
Battlefield sized health bars?
Kill cam?

Why?

I would personally rather have vehicle animations in return for the time it takes to program kill cam, quick knife and whatever "battlefield sized health bars," are. Or just the Sweeper shotgun. Or the Harasser. Or the Deliverer.

basti

2012-02-09, 09:51 AM

I don´t think so.

Armor is Armor.

PS1 was:
Agile 100
Rexo 200
Max 650

It will be someting like this.

Nice that you think that way, but your wrong.

Fact is, Infantary armor gets fully replaced with recharching shields.
How effective those shields will be depens on the class AND the shield you have (you can apperently customize that part as well).
The Health bar remains.

But, we have no informaiton if those shields will be Halo style (Damage to health only happens once the shield is fully depleted), or if they let damage onto your health through the shield, means they only deflect a certain amount of the recived damage. I guess we have both, depending on the shield.

Gandhi

2012-02-09, 09:51 AM

Surely, it's becoming hard to discriminate trolling/whining/grumbling from constructive criticism, nowadays.

Just saying.
That's is just a natural consequence of debating the same points over and over and over. Everything constructive about kill cams or OSOK sniping or TTK has already been said a dozen times, both sides are tired of repeating the same things so basically just spend their time bickering at each other in a vain attempt to get the other side to agree. I was just about to start a new round of this myself in the headshots thread.

Really all that's left to do at this point is wait for beta and hope the dev team isn't against trying different things and making changes were required. I know they've said they would, but what's isn't always what happens, usually because of time constraints. Regardless of how we feel about killcams for example I hope we'll at least get to try them in beta. Same with all the other contentious issues, and that includes things like removing OSOK for a while to see how it changes the gameplay.

Gortha

2012-02-09, 10:15 AM

Now it is rechargeable shields instead. It will probably be balanced by reducing the amount of shields or having a very slow recharge. Haven't heard much on the subject.

Even if there will be additional self-recharging shields.

Armor is Armor ;)

I am very sure that a Max has more Armor, not just a stronger Shield generator.
Even only by the looks of the Armors you can see, that Rexo and Max Cover
more, cover thicker of the Body as a Standard or Agile Armor.

It´s just logics.

@ Basti

Well it may be that the Armor and health is smelted down into one bar.
All i wanted to say, is a Max got more LIFE-Points than a Rexo/Agile etc.

Everything else would be unlogical - just by the look of the armor...

Warborn

2012-02-09, 10:18 AM

Gortha

2012-02-09, 10:40 AM

Armor as in what? Damage mitigation? It's unclear, but with MAXs being simply another infantry class and having no spawn timer or other such limitations it's unlikely that they require AV weaponry/armor piercing rounds to take down. They probably just have a bigger shield bar than other classes.

Yeah, Damage-Mitigation is a good point, i forgot about that. Maybe it´s just mitigation which makes the difference between armors.

But i wouldn´t bet that AP Ammo isn´t still in game...

AncientVanu

2012-02-09, 10:47 AM

Armor as in what? Damage mitigation? It's unclear, but with MAXs being simply another infantry class and having no spawn timer or other such limitations it's unlikely that they require AV weaponry/armor piercing rounds to take down. They probably just have a bigger shield bar than other classes.

Speaking of Maxes being just another class, what are going to be their weak spots? Apart from them being a bigger target, if they are tougher and better armed than the other classes, what will prevent everybody going Maxes?

DayOne

2012-02-09, 10:50 AM

Speaking of Maxes being just another class, what are going to be their weak spots? Apart from them being a bigger target, if they are tougher and better armed than the other classes, what will prevent everybody going Maxes?

Resource cost probably. I'd also like to see them being biblically slow. Running was okay before but if they get easier to use then they need to be nerfed.

Baron

2012-02-09, 10:56 AM

Max is not a class (this was said by a dev somewhere). I believe it will be part of the heavy assault skill tree

basti

2012-02-09, 10:58 AM

Max is not a class (this was said by a dev somewhere). I believe it will be part of the heavy assault skill tree

Wha? No, as far as i remember, max is a class.

Gortha

2012-02-09, 03:27 PM

basti

2012-02-09, 03:40 PM

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MAX is a CLASS!

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BUT:
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Doesnt change the fact that armor is now recharching itself. But its still called armor instead of shield, and i like that. ;)

Raymac

2012-02-09, 04:08 PM

Doesnt change the fact that armor is now recharching itself. But its still called armor instead of shield, and i like that. ;)

Actually, if you look at the Inventory Screen you can see there is BOTH armor and shields. There is the armor bar in the middle but "shields" next to the melee.

Perhaps Armor still = Shields and there are different kinds of shields you can select?

Once again, just as more answers are given; newer questions arise.

basti

2012-02-09, 04:12 PM

Actually, if you look at the Inventory Screen you can see there is BOTH armor and shields. There is the armor bar in the middle but "shields" next to the melee.

Perhaps Armor still = Shields and there are different kinds of shields you can select?

Once again, just as more answers are given; newer questions arise.

No extra questions at all.
Armor = shield. They just named the protective barrier that the shield creates armor.
And there are different shields. When they revealed that shields are the new armor, they also said that its part of customization, and that there would be many different kind of shields.

Raymac

2012-02-09, 04:17 PM

No extra questions at all.
Armor = shield. They just named the protective barrier that the shield creates armor.
And there are different shields. When they revealed that shields are the new armor, they also said that its part of customization, and that there would be many different kind of shields.

Oh, well, there you are then. I missed that there would be different shields. Thanks ODB.

lolroflroflcake

2012-02-09, 04:23 PM

Maybe armor and health work in the traditional manner and shields are something extra you can slap on that reduce incoming damage by a set amount.

Nevermind, seems I'm wrong. ><