View Full Version : News: NC Weapon: Sweeper
Graywolves
2012-02-09, 08:12 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=330998510278100&set=a.330998403611444.82963.209775182400434&type=1&theater
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1880
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20120209_4f346ef022172.jpg
RadarX
2012-02-09, 08:13 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
Graywolves
2012-02-09, 08:15 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
Is there going to be a common pool or other ES Shotguns?
BigBossMonkey
2012-02-09, 08:15 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
But it WAS before...
lol. :P
Looks good though.
DayOne
2012-02-09, 08:15 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
VS LASER shotgun?? :eek:
Mastachief
2012-02-09, 08:15 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
:lol:
Now i do ponder what the VS and TR shotguns are, as i seem to recall higby or tray saying that all empires would have a shotgun.
Firefly
2012-02-09, 08:16 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
So I'm presuming the NC are going to have Jackhammer in addition to Sweeper, and also the ghetto shotgun aka Bolt Driver. What exactly do the rest of us have?
Scrima
2012-02-09, 08:16 PM
No Jackhammer? Or side-grade with multiple barrels? Could be awesome... OVER 9000 BARRELS!
Boogster
2012-02-09, 08:17 PM
I don't like how this is being done, it's just too damn confusing. Where's the JH? Is it now common pool? Will I have to pay for it? There's no symmetry to the way you're releasing stuff - these NC weapons bear no relation to the TR ones released earlier. Argh.
Shotokanguy
2012-02-09, 08:18 PM
I'm glad it's not the Jackhammer, but now I really really want to see my Jackhammer. Dammit. The TR got to see their MCG...
A better look at this one makes me like it more. It's a nice looking weapon, after some of the other designs lately have been kind of "meh". Still think it would look nicer without the empire decals though...
Crazyduckling
2012-02-09, 08:18 PM
I'm guessing you either upgrade the sweeper to the jackhammer somehow, or jackhammer is now a max weapon.
Aurmanite
2012-02-09, 08:19 PM
So I'm presuming the NC are going to have Jackhammer in addition to Sweeper, and also the ghetto shotgun aka Bolt Driver. What exactly do the rest of us have?
I'm guessing next week we're gonna get a taste of what else is out there.
Neksar
2012-02-09, 08:20 PM
I want to be able to use this as a medic. :(
ThGlump
2012-02-09, 08:22 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
I wont be fooled again. I demand lengthy explanation from Higby :)
Aurmanite
2012-02-09, 08:22 PM
I want to be able to use this as a medic. :(
Shotgun wielding medic. Why not?
Vancha
2012-02-09, 08:25 PM
And I'm still being burnt by my own assumptions. This is a beautiful sweeper and I'm even more curious to see what the JH ends up looking like.
So I'm presuming the NC are going to have Jackhammer in addition to Sweeper, and also the ghetto shotgun aka Bolt Driver. What exactly do the rest of us have?
How in the hell are you not NC?
I'd guess TR will get the Punisher and possibly the Decimator. With the removal of AT, the Maelstrom name would be a good fit for the VS, but I'm not sure about the Spiker.
Edit: So is it safe to say there'll be no common-pool/Nanite Systems weapons?
DayOne
2012-02-09, 08:28 PM
Edit: So is it safe to say there'll be no common-pool/Nanite Systems weapons?
There's been an NS sub machine gun, possibly the suppressor. That's all so far though.
Graywolves
2012-02-09, 08:30 PM
Didn't we already see the Punisher as an NS weapon?
Vancha
2012-02-09, 08:39 PM
Can anyone link it? I know there was a gun that people speculated was the Punisher, but I thought it was an NC weapon...
Biohazard
2012-02-09, 08:40 PM
VS LASER shotgun?? :eek:
NO we get the MELTA GUN!
Space Marine Meet the Melta Gun.wmv - YouTube
BigBossMonkey
2012-02-09, 08:40 PM
Edit: So is it safe to say there'll be no common-pool/Nanite Systems weapons?
They've said that it is 70-80% ES weapons and the rest are NS common pool ones.
RadarX
2012-02-09, 08:41 PM
We'll see if more clarification can be added but this is NC week so this is an NC weapon. That isn't commentary on what any other faction will receive so please keep that in mind.
Xaine
2012-02-09, 09:09 PM
We'll see if more clarification can be added but this is NC week so this is an NC weapon. That isn't commentary on what any other faction will receive so please keep that in mind.
I think the point that people are trying to make, is that we're not seeing each Empires equivalent weapons.
We know the NC have the Bolt Driver for their Sniper, but we've had TR weapon week and we didn't see their Sniper.
We have also seen the TR Heavy Assault weapon (MCG, we presume at least) and we haven't seen the NC equivalent.
We seem to get a selection of random weapons from each faction, and people seem to be expecting to see each factions heavy weapon, sniper etc etc
I think most of us are just grateful you're showing us anything at all to be honest, but people do seem to be getting confused.
No cylindrical mag? /cry
Edit: things are looking a little too 21st century, I think. I hope they all function in the same way they did ala PS1.
Hamma
2012-02-09, 09:38 PM
Forgot to post:
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?img_id=1880
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20120209_4f346ef022172.jpg
Hmr85
2012-02-09, 09:45 PM
I love the look of the sweeper. TBH, I am glad I was wrong and it isn't the JH. Looking good guys. Keep up the good work. Now I can't wait to see what the JH ends up looking like.
EASyEightyEight
2012-02-09, 10:36 PM
They don't have to show us everything JUST yet, as they may not be fully modeled, textured, and rigged. Further, the NC having both a sweeper AND a jackhammer seems whole-heartedly redundant.
The "jackhammer" in name only will likely now be the TR shotgun equivalent, but it shoots explosive bee-bees like everything else TR does, instead of magnetically empowered molten hot slugs or pellets.
We've seen the NC MCG, or at least, we've been offered the chance to voice our criticisms, so don't get too discouraged just yet, each empire will see it's own variant of everything at this point, I'm sure, including grenade launchers, if they're making a return (the rocklet rifle and lasher I'm definitely up in the air about.) The variants just more than likely are not done yet.
So chill.
Vancha
2012-02-09, 10:54 PM
They don't have to show us everything JUST yet, as they may not be fully modeled, textured, and rigged. Further, the NC having both a sweeper AND a jackhammer seems whole-heartedly redundant.
The "jackhammer" in name only will likely now be the TR shotgun equivalent, but it shoots explosive bee-bees like everything else TR does, instead of magnetically empowered molten hot slugs or pellets.
That would be sacrilege. The JH will be for HA and the Sweeper will be for LA/Med/Engy.
Graywolves
2012-02-09, 11:01 PM
I could never accept an NC weapon being a part of my glorious empire's arsenal.
CutterJohn
2012-02-09, 11:03 PM
I wonder if the JH will even be a shotgun. They said somewhere NC is no longer the shotgun faction. That NC version of an MCG we saw a few months back could be the new JH.
SKYeXile
2012-02-09, 11:03 PM
I could never accept an NC weapon being a part of my glorious empire's arsenal.
Inferior projectile weapons, the tools of peasants.
Firefly
2012-02-09, 11:04 PM
How in the hell are you not NC?
I'm TR 'til the day I die. And then I respawn as TR.
Bittermen
2012-02-09, 11:06 PM
Looks brutal.
I like.
Graywolves
2012-02-09, 11:14 PM
I'm TR 'til the day I die. And then I respawn as TR.
I'm putting this in my signature.
Vancha
2012-02-09, 11:31 PM
I wonder if the JH will even be a shotgun. They said somewhere NC is no longer the shotgun faction. That NC version of an MCG we saw a few months back could be the new JH.
That'd be good too.
Firefly
2012-02-09, 11:50 PM
I'm putting this in my signature.
Rock on, brother. Loyalty Until Death! And then respawn to be loyal again!
Coreldan
2012-02-10, 02:17 AM
It looks good, here's to hoping that it's the only NC shotgun. No more that niche for me, please :D
Logri
2012-02-10, 02:18 AM
Would be funny to see if the JH becomes a common pool weapon, then we can all have one and all our epeen would be the same size :P
Dying to see it though, the JH, not ur epeen.
ShockNC
2012-02-10, 02:27 AM
So I'm presuming the NC are going to have Jackhammer in addition to Sweeper, and also the ghetto shotgun aka Bolt Driver. What exactly do the rest of us have?
for TR, you guys are going to have range and ammo chewers. the VS are going to have AOE disco balls.
Talek Krell
2012-02-10, 03:21 AM
the VS are going to have AOE disco balls.Dance like there's no tomorrow bitches, because guess what?;)
ShockNC
2012-02-10, 03:30 AM
Dance like there's no tomorrow bitches, because guess what?;)
Don't worry, if past experience has told us anything, it's that the VS weaponry is very subject to flavor of the month.. going from "barely tickles" to "OMGFG!" to "feather duster with an edge"
TerminatorUK
2012-02-10, 03:37 AM
Interesting...no common pool 'sweeper' named shotgun.
Was a favourite of mine in PS1.
Does beg the questions:
- Is this a replacement for the JH?
- Is it customisable to be a JH?
- Is another HA weapon going to compliment this for NC?
- Will there be any common pool shotgun now?
HitbackTR
2012-02-10, 04:15 AM
Well R.I.P. the days of clearing out towers with the good old sweeper then.......
Hermes
2012-02-10, 04:16 AM
This is a pretty cool looking shotty. Solid stuff :)
HELLFISH88
2012-02-10, 04:38 AM
Everything about this release excites me. First of all; the gaul it takes to not only take away the common pool shotgun but then to also give it to the faction with the shotgun monopoly is really hilarious. The fact that the sweeper is now Empire specific (And sexier) leads me to tantalize over what new idea's they have to fill it's common pool and counter empire specific voids.
Sabrak
2012-02-10, 04:42 AM
I wonder if the JH will even be a shotgun. They said somewhere NC is no longer the shotgun faction. That NC version of an MCG we saw a few months back could be the new JH.
Oh hell no!
I still wonder what that weird MCG was, but I sure hope it's not the new NC HA weapon.
More like a MAX stuff to replace the ScatMAX, hopefully.
I want my JH back! Even if I can't get in a Reaver with it.
Oh, and on topic: glad I was wrong and that it wasn't the JH but the Sweeper. It looks good, really.
TheBladeRoden
2012-02-10, 06:29 AM
VS need a flashlight-type shotgun. It's like a laser, but out of focus
Graywolves
2012-02-10, 09:03 AM
I used the Sweeper all the time in PS1
Kind of dissapoint that I'll never touch it because it will be a cold day in hell before I fight for them.
Kaotc
2012-02-10, 09:44 AM
I used the Sweeper all the time in PS1
Kind of dissapoint that I'll never touch it because it will be a cold day in hell before I fight for them.
on the plus side, we should get a "USAS" stylee Auto shotgun to replace it :D
Oryon22
2012-02-10, 10:09 AM
Good looking weapon. Love the the shells on the side.
Graywolves
2012-02-10, 10:18 AM
on the plus side, we should get a "USAS" stylee Auto shotgun to replace it :D
BELT-FED SHOTGUN!!!!!!!!
Shogun
2012-02-10, 10:48 AM
i was wondering what radarx meant...
he said "this is an nc weapon"
ok, we could guess that by the color and maybe even by the empire logo on it...
what he didn´t specify: is this a ES nc weapon, or just the NC version of a common pool weapon like the boltdriver we saw?
it´s still a problem to be totally clear in statements...
matt? it´s time for another post to show them community guys how this is done right ;-)
edit:
ups, he actually DID say it´s not common pool... hm is this the nc heavy assault weapon?
how i would like to see a chart that puts all weapontypes of all three empires next to each other, so we could see what everybody has for which roles
DOUBLEXBAUGH
2012-02-10, 10:48 AM
Woah woah woah wait a minute.... If this is not a common pool weapon, why are the shotgun shells on the side marked with "NS" ? I was under the impression all things 'Nanite Systems' were common pool.
The Empires get ammo from NS, but NC made the gun.
Shamrock
2012-02-10, 11:02 AM
The VS are getting the ZF-1 ;)
The perfect weapon - YouTube
TacosWLove
2012-02-10, 11:04 AM
So wTF? No Jack Hamma! This is Ridonculous...
I mean i like the new look of the sweeper, but if a standard shot gun isnt common pool, idk what should be..
Kaotc
2012-02-10, 11:18 AM
BELT-FED SHOTGUN!!!!!!!!
i like your style:
http://frankbaumer.com/Heartland%20Pictures/More_Pics/fun/Saiga_12_Belt_Fed.jpg
This is what Higby posted about the Bolt Driver the other day:
The Bolt Driver is an NC specific sniper rifle, each empire will have their own ES sniper rifle, but due to the way our weapon platforms work, they'll have some variation even within the sniper rifles, this is the "sidegrade" concept you've heard us talk about a lot.
Why would we assume the Sweeper is being treated any differently? Both it and the Bolt Driver were initially common pool weapons. It sounds to me like NC get the Bolt Driver and Sweeper "in name" but all factions will have their own sniper rifles and shotguns.
Tikuto
2012-02-10, 11:52 AM
Cloaking snipers too. this be getting silly... :rolleyes:
beekergunship
2012-02-10, 11:57 AM
The VS are getting the ZF-1 ;)
The perfect weapon - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6ANbL3SMw)
And we will only get to use that red button on the side.:rolleyes:
Raymac
2012-02-10, 12:54 PM
This is precisely the goal of the design - allow players to customize to fit their playstyle while maintaining empire distinction. We don't want you to feel compelled to play NC to get the gameplay experience you want to have when all your friends want to play TR, but, we don't want all the empires to feel like nothing more than a color swap. So, we have blurred the edges to allow for personalizing your gameplay experience while still having each empire have a distinct overall feel and direction to what their soldiers can field.
If this is the philosophy behind the weapon design, I don't think the other empires will need to worry too much about not having access to a shotgun. But, hey, if you want to see the light and join up with the NC, we are still accepting applications.
Knightwyvern
2012-02-10, 12:59 PM
So far, NC have gobbled up the two best common pool weapons. Maybe we get the Rocklet Rifle as well... I would be so happy.
Yes, I know other empires would get a version too.
Cloaking snipers too. this be getting silly... :rolleyes:
wtf does this have to do with the sweeper?
Tikuto
2012-02-10, 03:08 PM
I'm starting to believe a random speculation that popped into my mystical brain.
All weapons may be 'common pool' Nanite Systems, branding their design-matrix and all that corporate/business realm. Noticed in the description that they are "favored of the <Faction>". Favored which may probably suggest that there's some discount construction for the empire's favored weaponry and that they are ALL Nanite System constructs available to anyone.
Something fishy going on here.... :brow:
Coreldan
2012-02-10, 03:19 PM
Doubt it. NS gear seems to always have the NS logo somewhere. These ES stuff hasnt really had that.
SuperMorto
2012-02-10, 03:21 PM
Just to be clear this is NOT Common Pool...
See what I did there?
you guys..... what are you hiding?
texico
2012-02-10, 08:49 PM
Shotgun wielding medic. Why not?
Yes, because we all know how it magically becomes impossible for a person to carry a gun once they know how to heal people.
Aurmanite
2012-02-10, 09:52 PM
Yes, because we all know how it magically becomes impossible for a person to carry a gun once they know how to heal people.
I would be offended if I didn't have to deal with shotgun wielding medics glad in blue and gold.
Raka Maru
2012-02-10, 11:02 PM
Cloaking snipers too. this be getting silly... :rolleyes:
Hard to see gilly suits too, but I would wear one for each terrain type if needed. They just rolled them into one predator type.
Livefire
2012-02-12, 09:19 PM
THE JACK HAMMER NEEDS TO BE A BELT FED SHOT GUN! please get this right soe.
example http://www.hungrylizardstudio.com/art3d/pages/Gatling%20Shotgunrl.html
DOUBLEXBAUGH
2012-02-13, 06:17 AM
THE JACK HAMMER NEEDS TO BE A BELT FED SHOT GUN! please get this right soe.
example http://www.hungrylizardstudio.com/art3d/pages/Gatling%20Shotgunrl.html
You mean something like this?
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20111113_4ebfe128b8e5d.jpg
BlazingSun
2012-02-13, 09:33 AM
Do we know yet what this is supposed to be? Whatever it is, I hope T-Ray reworked it.
Hmr85
2012-02-13, 09:36 AM
Probably the NC version of the TR MCG
DOUBLEXBAUGH
2012-02-13, 09:49 AM
Still no official word on what it is. We all assumed it was an NC version of an MCG, but looking at Livefire's link, it looks similar to that gatling shotgun. I doubt its a new JH though.
FriendlyFire
2012-02-13, 02:21 PM
You mean something like this?
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20111113_4ebfe128b8e5d.jpg
I play VS, and I would use this...
Raka Maru
2012-02-13, 09:18 PM
You mean something like this?
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/main/psnext/twitter/20111113_4ebfe128b8e5d.jpg
This must be the JH. Bam, bam, bam. 2 barrels per shot.
Pillow
2012-02-14, 08:01 AM
LEGO!
Kaotc
2012-02-14, 08:29 AM
a gattling shotgun doesnt fit with the NC's High Damage, Low Throughput philosophy. that would be more a TR weapon....
Coreldan
2012-02-14, 02:24 PM
This must be the JH. Bam, bam, bam. 2 barrels per shot.
Those are not barrels, but magnets. It uses gauss technology, so those magnet "barrels" dont shoot out anything, they just boost the projectile coming from the center.
Also, I noticed the wiki had been updated so that the Sweeper (which we know is a sweeper) is said to be Jackhammer now o.o While it may take JHs spot, it certainly doesnt make it a Jackhammer.
Geist
2012-02-14, 04:16 PM
Those are not barrels, but magnets. It uses gauss technology, so those magnet "barrels" dont shoot out anything, they just boost the projectile coming from the center.
Also, I noticed the wiki had been updated so that the Sweeper (which we know is a sweeper) is said to be Jackhammer now o.o While it may take JHs spot, it certainly doesnt make it a Jackhammer.
Precisely, I wonder why so many people miss the lack of holes on those "Barrels". TBH, I can see where their going with it, they want all HA weapons to be like the MCG, a huge weapon that can't be held like a conventional gun. I'm sure we'll be seeing a VS version of it pretty soon as well.
Despite what the JH was, I personally think that weapon is more deserving of the "Jackhammer" name. It just looks right. ;)
Livefire
2012-02-14, 04:29 PM
Precisely, I wonder why so many people miss the lack of holes on those "Barrels". TBH, I can see where their going with it, they want all HA weapons to be like the MCG, a huge weapon that can't be held like a conventional gun. I'm sure we'll be seeing a VS version of it pretty soon as well.
Despite what the JH was, I personally think that weapon is more deserving of the "Jackhammer" name. It just looks right. ;)
LOOKS AWESOME! Just needs a little refinements. I really would like rotating 12 gauge barrels! Its definitely a rough draft but it is the way a Jack Hammer should look, only can be used with REXO helping you lift it:) Oh ya, and make it belt fed from a box that's cool and realistic just let me see the belt on one side getting fed into the gun please!
Like this....Jack Hammer
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/241/5/8/gatling_shotgun_textured_by_soongpa-d487gpr.jpg
And then make the Scatter Cannon for the NC MAX just that much bigger firing 4 Gauge shotgun shells being the MAX can carry a lot more weight.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Shotshell-Comparison.jpg
Livefire
2012-02-15, 03:33 AM
sorry repost...
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