PC Gamer April Issue with Beta Key

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-pc-gamer-april-issue-with-beta-key-2681.htm

[Goku]

This will be out March 1, 2012? :D

[Azren]

Does the "current players get in beta first" still stand?

[Mordicant]

OMG! OMG! I just about PASSED OUT!

Correct me if I am wrong but April issue comes out in March right?!?!?!

[DviddLeff]

Holy crap!

[Crator]

Well that's great news. We getting beta pretty soon then looks like!

[Ailos]

Well, that would be the news then. I can't imagine them handing out Beta keys without a Beta actually in progress.

[Hamma]

Updated front page with magazine shot.

[wasdie]

I must aquire that magazine ASAP.

Does this mean beta is starting in early March? LETS HOPE SO!

[Whalenator]

sex

[Mastachief]

If they decide that the beta is only for the pc gamer U.S crowd for a few weeks would any Kind american like to resell some PCG'ers to us Euros?

[BigBossMonkey]

My penis is hard.

I'm not afraid to admit that on the internet.

GIVE ME BETA NOWWWWWWW

[CGar]

Oh god oh god oh god oh god must buy magazine

[Lorgarn]

Wait, WHAT? ... WH...

I'm not even sure if I'm reading this correctly, the adrenaline is fogging my brain at the moment. I'll definitely buy this PC Gamer issue! (Where is the catch, can it really be this "easy"?)

(Gosh, I have no idea where to go to buy this magazine... Hmm)

[wasdie]

OMG! OMG! I just about PASSED OUT!

Correct me if I am wrong but April issue comes out in March right?!?!?!

Actually...

"April 2012 is headed to subscribers now, and will be on newsstands by February 28."

:D

[Nobel]

"April 2012 is headed to subscribers now, and will be on newsstands by February 28."

BETA BEGINS THIS MONTH

[Shogun]

that´s some great news!

hamma, go for it! get some beta keys from matt for psu to do some sweepstakes!

can anyone with a paypal account offer a magazine buy service for us non-us fans?
like we send you money via paypal, you go and buy a stack of magazines and mail us the beta keys?

[Xaine]

US issue only?

Is this going to make me regret being English?

[Mordicant]

Frak a banjo! I want it NOW!!! *Channel 16yr spoil brat*

[ThGlump]

Once again US only. Others are screwed up. Anyone for reselling them to those outside US?

[UnknownDT]

Ugh what happened to Planetside 1 vets though? :( shame. Still will buy this though.

[Marth Koopa]

Beta is definitely REAL SOON now.

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOODDDDD I NEED THIS

If Armored Core V is a flop I need a good multiplayer game to fall back on SOON, which could surprisingly be Mass Effect 3

[Tigersmith]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wasdie]

Apparently there are a lot of details about the game in the mag and it is going out to subscribers now.

Maybe beta date?

PLEASE BETA DATE

[Tikuto]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jkgpXYJbHnY/SqkSC8vRXYI/AAAAAAAAADs/m4O0DNCnaa0/s320/surprised_baby_2.jpg

https://p.twimg.com/Alt6nuECMAAH3I3.jpg:large

[LZachariah]

OOOooooh good lord I am buying that motherfucking magazine!!!

[Trolltaxi]

What if I acquire a copy but I'm in Europe? Will they check IP-s and let only US players in?

[Lorgarn]

US issue only?

Is this going to make me regret being English?

No, don't you dare!

Please, it can't be true...

BUT, if it is - I gladly pay anyone double amount of the cost if someone purchase a copy for me just to acquire the key.

[Snowfake]

So us current paying customers have to buy a magazine to get keys... I dont think so. We must be getting keys before that.

[Mastachief]

Apparently there are a lot of details about the game in the mag and it is going out to subscribers now.

Maybe beta date?

PLEASE BETA DATE

Theres a beta key.............

[Mirror]

so is this the first shafting by soe?

"hey dont worry current ps subscribers will be looked after blah blah blah" same old soe.

[Xaine]

that´s some great news!

hamma, go for it! get some beta keys from matt for psu to do some sweepstakes!

can anyone with a paypal account offer a magazine buy service for us non-us fans?
like we send you money via paypal, you go and buy a stack of magazines and mail us the beta keys?

Also this, any chance Hamma could set this up? I think we'd all trust him :)

[Tikuto]

Theres a beta key............."Priority Access Beta Key."


c wut dey did dhere?

[PoisonTaco]

Well it looks like I have to get myself one of those magazines.

[Shogun]

Also this, any chance Hamma could set this up? I think we'd all trust him :)

to auraxis and back!
and it doesn´t even matter that he´s not NC ;-)

[Firefly]

You people crying about PS veterans being shafted need to read between the fucking lines a little.

They're only giving out keys. That doesn't mean you're getting into beta the same day. That doesn't mean that tomorrow Higby's gonna get on the forums and say "You guys, go log in now." That doesn't mean a goddamn thing other than they're including beta keys.

I have a fucking key to my dad's '73 Nova SuperSport. That don't mean I'm driving the sumbitch around the block.

[DxC]

Not sure if im excited by the news or not since I live in England...

[Mastachief]

Add a little profit to the top for the running of PSU

[DayOne]

I will move to the US to buy this!!

[Lorgarn]

Also this, any chance Hamma could set this up? I think we'd all trust him :)

I second this idea.

Like I said in my previous post, I'll gladly pay the double amount of what the magazine cost.

[Xaine]

No, don't you dare!

Please, it can't be true...

BUT, if it is - I gladly pay anyone double amount of the cost if someone purchase a copy for me just to acquire the key.

I'm trying mate, but it's hard. Lust for Planetside rising... Irrational sense of Patriotism fading...

Someone take my money and give me a god damn key! :p

[Shogun]

120 viewing on planetside 2 discussion ;-) thats more than average ;-)

[UnknownDT]

Was there a point to signing up for beta on the official site? seems a little odd.

[NewSith]

3 bottles of expensive high-quality vodka to any american who sends me a key...

[ringring]

You people crying about PS veterans being shafted need to read between the fucking lines a little.

They're only giving out keys. That doesn't mean you're getting into beta the same day. That doesn't mean that tomorrow Higby's gonna get on the forums and say "You guys, go log in now." That doesn't mean a goddamn thing other than they're including beta keys.

I have a fucking key to my dad's '73 Nova SuperSport. That don't mean I'm driving the sumbitch around the block.
Aye .... my first reaction was 'wtf' and 'whadda bout me'.
However, we've been asked to create Station Accounts and to make sure the email addresses are upto date, also SOE will want as many people into beta as they can get. What I'm saying is that there will be other routes whereby we can get beta keys. This, is only a marketing event. Beta keys will be available I have no doubt, well little doubt, well, the doubt that is there is smaller than the feeling of positivity, well, if not smaller, than not that much bigger.

[Mirror]

You people crying about PS veterans being shafted need to read between the fucking lines a little.

They're only giving out keys. That doesn't mean you're getting into beta the same day. That doesn't mean that tomorrow Higby's gonna get on the forums and say "You guys, go log in now." That doesn't mean a goddamn thing other than they're including beta keys.

I have a fucking key to my dad's '73 Nova SuperSport. That don't mean I'm driving the sumbitch around the block.

As someone who has had an active sub over the past 7-8 years I would expect to be given a key before someone who goes out and buys some magazine as I'm sure quite a few people on this forum would be.

It has been said many times that the current ps subscribers would be looked after, well so far we are still waiting for our keys which should have been handed out first imo.

[Coreldan]

Gonna have some US friend get me the code.

What I dislike about this is that I bet I will get a beta key at the same time/soon after/little before I get the magazine key and then have two keys and be pissed off I wasted money on the magazine :D

[Zhane]

Last time I looked at a copy of PC Gamer it cost SIXTEEN DOLLARS and I immediately put it back.

I'll be picking up this one, though...

[Raymac]

Well this made my day.

[NivexQ]

What about the digital version?

Edit :: Never mind, I have reading problems when I get excited... lol

[BigBossMonkey]

Me right now.

YAYYY

[Sheppe]

Agree with Mirror and others tbh,

but on the bright side, Beta keys can be input as of... now? can't be too much longer until Beta is active.

[etheral]

*sigh* you know, sometimes I really hate you colonial bastards :D

That issue is out on the 28th right? We've got just under 2 weeks to hear if PS1 vets will get beta invites as well

[Xaine]

3 bottles of expensive high-quality vodka to any american who sends me a key...

I see your high quality vodka, and raise you three bottles of my freshly made tears because we can't get it ourselves.

[Miir]

Great news... I'll pick up a copy.

I have to ask though....

What does PRIORITY ACCESS mean? Does it mean you get in as soon as beta starts? or open beta? Is it an actual Beta key or just something that's moves you up the the top of the selection list?

[Firefly]

As someone who has had an active sub over the past 7-8 years I would expect to be given a key before someone who goes out and buys some magazine as I'm sure quite a few people on this forum would be.

It has been said many times that the current ps subscribers would be looked after, well so far we are still waiting for our keys which should have been handed out first imo.

Reading Comprehension 101 will be your friend for life if you, my friend, but let it:

That doesn't mean that tomorrow Higby's gonna get on the forums and say "You guys, go log in now." That doesn't mean a goddamn thing other than they're including beta keys.

Today is February 15th. Allegedly this issue hits 28 February. I'm sure that you can do simple math and see how many days remain between those dates. Therefore it stands to reason that they just may actually send you an email if you possessed even the most meagre grasp of reading comprehension and updated your Station account (specifically, email addy) and signed up for beta on the PS2 website. If you didn't do that (I presume, for the record, that you did) well then heinous fuckery most foul shall fall upon your asshole when some kiddie with a magazine gets in before you.

Have a nice day.

[Tigersmith]

As someone who has had an active sub over the past 7-8 years I would expect to be given a key before someone who goes out and buys some magazine as I'm sure quite a few people on this forum would be.

It has been said many times that the current ps subscribers would be looked after, well so far we are still waiting for our keys which should have been handed out first imo.

I agree with you mirror. but it is what it is. I have spent over 1000$ the past 7-8 years on planetside alone.

Im ok with it. as long as the game is good lol

[Nephilimuk]

Great news really good and very excited by it

Now what about subbed PS1 players in Europe could we get a statement as I am starting to feel unloved? :cry:

[Xaine]

As someone who has had an active sub over the past 7-8 years I would expect to be given a key before someone who goes out and buys some magazine as I'm sure quite a few people on this forum would be.

It has been said many times that the current ps subscribers would be looked after, well so far we are still waiting for our keys which should have been handed out first imo.

Also, this.

[Scrima]

I find it hard to believe that PS vets would be shafted, so my guess is that those who signed up for the beta on the PS2 site and have a station account will get emails with the keys just as soon as the random horde of people who subscribe/read PC Gamer.

[stordito]

YES!

so this is actually the final confirmation that the beta will start Feb 28th.
UNLESS...once you redeem the beta key there is still some time to go before the PS2 beta program itself is released...

basically you get your account enabled but waiting for the program to be downloadable to use it...
hope it's not...

BTW HOLY CRAP!
Can't believe we'll be back on auraxis so soon!

[Sabrak]

HELP!

I think I'm overbreathing!

Where can I buy that shit in Europe??!

[wasdie]

YES!

so this is actually the final confirmation that the beta will start Feb 28th.
UNLESS...once you redeem the beta key there is still some time to go before the PS2 beta program itself is released...

basically you get your account enabled but waiting for the program to be downloadable to use it...
hope it's not...

BTW HOLY CRAP!
Can't believe we'll be back on auraxis so soon!

I'm really thinking it won't start until march.

Though a Tuesday start day is probably pretty good.

[IronMole]

I want a date so I know when to quit my job...

[Canaris]

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/wallpapers/1024x768/s/sniper-722.jpg

Overwatch established on my local news stand, now we play the waiting game......
those keys will be mine

[Shogun]

we veterans should relax,sit back and wait until 1.st of march.

just make sure your fan is plugged and ready to take some shit, if soe really forgets about vets ;-)

[Firefly]

I find it hard to believe that PS vets would be shafted, so my guess is that those who signed up for the beta on the PS2 site and have a station account will get emails with the keys just as soon as the random horde of people who subscribe/read PC Gamer.
This.

[ThGlump]

*tinfoil hat on*
They need bf and cod players to approve planetside2 as a good game. so they give them keys. Vets would bash and hate it from start of beta over every small difference from ps1, so they dont get any key.
*tinfoil hat off*

Joking aside, there will be tons of keys for vets. They will be their main source for improvement ad balance ideas, and testing various game tactics. They cant expect someone who is new to game to understand it fast and start doing some organized stuff. Random betatesters will be there to test FPS part of game. Vets will be there to test planedside part.

[DayOne]

Overwatch established on my local news stand, now we play the waiting game......
those keys will be mine

And soon we will be playing the actual game!

[MaxoramaUSMC]

hmm is this every copy? i cant remember if my sub ran out recently so can i still pick it up at a local retailer and get a key :(?

[Xaine]

we veterans should relax,sit back and wait until 1.st of march.

just make sure your fan is plugged and ready to take some shit, if soe really forgets about vets ;-)

Shit cannon loaded an' primed, sah!

[UnknownDT]

Firefly.. who are you? Did you ever even play PS1? I doubt it. Stop talking.

Players who have been playing PS1 for all these years are more excited for this game then you could possibly be. We kind of wanted special treatment, because hell we deserve it. We are happy about this "Development" but we are a little concerned if beta access is based off a key given in a magazine. We need more details on the actual process I think, but still we should've been the first to recieve any keys.

Now some random joe who doesn't know anything about PS2 gets in guaranteed when the real concerned players for the game may not have a subscription to PCgamer don't and may need to resort to buy a magazine for a key... yuck.

Just sucks a little, but let's hope we get more information about the process before getting ancy about it.


****LEFT MY MESSAGE THERE, BUT THANKS TO HIGBY AND DANICA THEY CONFIRMED PS1 VETS STILL GET PRIORITY!**** APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE GUYS.

[BigBossMonkey]

hmm is this every copy? i cant remember if my sub ran out recently so can i still pick it up at a local retailer and get a key :(?

A PCGamer editor posted on the reddit thread that every copy (newstand or otherwise) will have a key in it.

[Mirror]

read facebook

[Sinilaid]

From Facebook



Hello all! As previously stated, original PlanetSide 1 players and Fan Faire 2011 registered attendees will receive priority access to PlanetSide 2 beta as well. [Danicia]

[SurgeonX]

There might be good news on the horizon for us UK lot too.
Although it may just be a bit of a guess.

In the back of the latest PC Gamer UK issue, the back page states for the next issue, due on the 14th of March...

"Free inside...
Exclusive beta access to a new game."

We can but hope.

[Whoknowswhat1]

Hello all! As previously stated, original PlanetSide 1 players and Fan Faire 2011 registered attendees will receive priority access to PlanetSide 2 beta as well. [Danicia]

good i dont have to go out and buy a copy for $16, as much as it will be worth it.

[Shogun]

yeeehaaaa! happy days and jubilation! now it´s time to freak out and unplug the shitcannon ;-)

[Firefly]

Firefly.. who are you? Did you ever even play PS1? I doubt it. Stop talking.

Players who have been playing PS1 for all these years are more excited for this game then you could possibly be. We kind of wanted special treatment, because hell we deserve it. We are happy about this "Development" but we are a little concerned if beta access is based off a key given in a magazine. We need more details on the actual process I think, but still we should've been the first to recieve any keys.
You would be mistaken. I've been playing since closed beta. Any other stupid fucking questions?

[Tigersmith]

good i dont have to go out and buy a copy for $16, as much as it will be worth it.

Dont even complain you know I would of bought you one.haha

[Tigersmith]

This is what im going to be doing to my Gmail account for the next 2 weeks

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t91/Broodstar13372/f5.gif

[BigBossMonkey]

read facebook

And for those too lazy:

Hello all! As previously stated, original PlanetSide 1 players and Fan Faire 2011 registered attendees will receive priority access to PlanetSide 2 beta as well. [Danicia]

[Whoknowswhat1]

Dont even complain you know I would of bought you one.haha

I would get my Tax refund in by then so i could buy it.

[Mirror]

This is what im going to be doing to my Gmail account for the next 2 weeks

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t91/Broodstar13372/f5.gif

you have fat fingers :groovy:

[Graywolves]

You would be mistaken. I've been playing since closed beta. Any other stupid fucking questions?

I believe Firefly was a CSR or Forum admin at some point if I'm not mistaken.




BTW, on the facebook page, Danicia has stated that Planetside 1 players and fanfaire attendees will still have access.

[Firefly]

And for those too lazy:

Hello all! As previously stated, original PlanetSide 1 players and Fan Faire 2011 registered attendees will receive priority access to PlanetSide 2 beta as well. [Danicia]
Thank you for (re)posting this. It bears repeating in the middle of an ocean of "WAAAAA SOME KID BUYZ MAGAZINE B4 ME AN I PLAID DIZ GAME TEN YRS OK WTF?!?"

I believe Firefly was a CSR or Forum admin at some point if I'm not mistaken.
Not a CSR, at least never for SOE. Not a forum admin, either. Just a Planetside player and an incredibly intolerant-of-stupidity person.

[Whoknowswhat1]

This is what im going to be doing to my Gmail account for the next 2 weeks

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t91/Broodstar13372/f5.gif

you have fat fingers :groovy:

and im pretty sure his keyboard is better than that too... just sayin

[Tikuto]

@ELahti (https://twitter.com/#!/ELahti/status/169867444171714560)
I've got 2,000 words of awesome leftover interview content with PlanetSide 2 Creative Director @mhigby to post online next week, too.
https://p.twimg.com/AluEZTOCAAIBRry.jpg:large

[ShadoViper]

Shit cannon loaded an' primed, sah!

If that doesn't work we will have to ambush them with fire!

[etheral]

hmmm. they said 'players'. Does that mean all planetside players or those that are currently subbed? Or am I overthinking it? :P

[Mirror]

I believe Firefly was a CSR or Forum admin at some point if I'm not mistaken.

That explains alot.

[Tigersmith]

and im pretty sure his keyboard is better than that too... just sayin

Mine Cost me a small loan. o well ha

[VioletZero]

I'm going to go need to buy that now.

When's it coming out?

[Danicia]

Thanks for grabbing my comment from Facebook. I'm helping out whilst RadarX is on a plane. I've asked a few questions and we should have some more official answers to some of them later. I'm not going to use the dreaded "Soon". As a gamer myself, it drives me crazy. :)

So hang tight; as I get more answers, I'll post them. I don't guarantee all your questions will get answered, but I'll do my best!

/salute

[Xaine]

Thank you for (re)posting this. It bears repeating in the middle of an ocean of "WAAAAA SOME KID BUYZ MAGAZINE B4 ME AN I PLAID DIZ GAME TEN YRS OK WTF?!?"


Not a CSR, at least never for SOE. Not a forum admin, either. Just a Planetside player and an incredibly intolerant-of-stupidity person.

Relax sir. Just because people are getting riled up over nothing at all, doesn't mean you have to get riled up as well.

Let's all hold hands and bask in the delicious warmth of beta.

Also, I always sort of suspected this but there will be a metric shit-ton of people in this beta. Did someone say massive combat on an epic scale?

[Xaine]

Thanks for grabbing my comment from Facebook. I'm helping out whilst RadarX is on a plane. I've asked a few questions and we should have some more official answers to some of them later. I'm not going to use the dreaded "Soon". As a gamer myself, it drives me crazy. :)

So hang tight; as I get more answers, I'll post them. I don't guarantee all your questions will get answered, but I'll do my best!

/salute

Thank you very much. We love you.

Can we all form a line so we can give you hugs?

[MooK]

I just want my name this time around, really. Sigh. Oh the stories I could say about the name changes I endured. Beta shmeta!

[Firefly]

Let's all hold hands and bask in the delicious warmth of beta.
I'm not riled - I combat stupidity and ignorance in my own special way but it's never with anything more than a chuckle at the screen. Watching the trolls get riled, however, that's fucking entertaining. Especially the ego kids.

If we're going to hold hands, can we cuddle too?

[Xaine]

I'm not riled - I combat stupidity and ignorance in my own special way but it's never with anything more than a chuckle at the screen. Watching the trolls get riled, however, that's fucking entertaining. Especially the ego kids.

If we're going to hold hands, can we cuddle too?

I insist on it.

[BigBossMonkey]

If we're going to hold hands, can we cuddle too?


What's the groups stance on surprise anal?

ALSO BETA!

[Hamma]

Great news... I'll pick up a copy.

I have to ask though....

What does PRIORITY ACCESS mean? Does it mean you get in as soon as beta starts? or open beta? Is it an actual Beta key or just something that's moves you up the the top of the selection list?
I doubt it means anything other than "Hey you got a key" :lol:

[Firefly]

What's the groups stance on surprise anal?
It's only surprise if you're worried about being gay and on bottom.

[Graywolves]

Graywolves is incorrect.

Either I remembered you from somewhere in Planetside 6-7 years ago.

[Tigersmith]

It's only surprise if you're worried about being gay and on bottom.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg

[Hamma]

Here is the real deal, repeated again.

PS1 players, Fan Faire 2011 attendees and PC Gamer keys will have first access to beta once it begins.
https://twitter.com/#!/mhigby/status/169877856934047745

[Aurmanite]

Awesome. This is just awesome.

I also love how all the entitled brats were handled by a Facebook post.

[golfmasta34]

Hmm, I wonder if PS1 vets means having subscribed to it at any time during it's run, or only those subscribed now?

Either way, if the PCGamer key is the same "priority access" ass PS1 vets, I'll get a copy to be safe.

[Xaine]

What's the groups stance on surprise anal?

ALSO BETA!

That seems to be your department brother. I think you can take the floor on this one (more ways than one). Anyone else speaking about the subject just wouldn't do. :)

[Firefly]

Hmm, I wonder if PS1 vets means having subscribed to it at any time during it's run, or only those subscribed now?
I can only speculate, but my guess would be anyone with an account in good standing. The only SURE way (let's not confuse the issue with logic) is to have an active sub, though.

[Tigersmith]

"No restrictions there. if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite, be sure your station acct email is accurate"
https://twitter.com/#!/mhigby/status/169879295097962496

[golfmasta34]

I can only speculate, but my guess would be anyone with an account in good standing. The only SURE way (let's not confuse the issue with logic) is to have an active sub, though.

I wouldn't blame 'em if they only give it to those currently subscribed. Talk about some diehards there. I don't think you could pay me to play PS1 now.

[EZShot]

My guess is anyone who has ever held a sub to the old version.

The atmosphere in here is intense :P

[golfmasta34]

VIA twitter.com/mhigby

Shit, didn't see this, nice!

[BlazeDragoon]

Very happy to hear this news, and even more to hear that they will be giving it to all ps1 players no restrictions. That sure is a lot of people though, for a beta.

[Firefly]

"No restrictions there. if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite, be sure your station acct email is accurate"
https://twitter.com/#!/mhigby/status/169879295097962496
I can always rely on you to find the right answer in a timely fashion. Thanks.

[Vancha]

Oh christ. Now I have to choose between waiting for Kepler/Ivy Bridge and missing months of beta, or splashing out on a worse, more expensive rig now. Dilemma.

[XLynxX]

Very happy to hear this news, and even more to hear that they will be giving it to all ps1 players no restrictions. That sure is a lot of people though, for a beta.

A game that boosts 1000v1000v1000 needs a large beta testing. To put heavy stress on the game. :).

[Xaine]

Very happy to hear this news, and even more to hear that they will be giving it to all ps1 players no restrictions. That sure is a lot of people though, for a beta.

They want all the people to stress test, plus there is no pve at all in the game. It's all pvp which you need players for. I wonder how many servers there will be. With that amount of people Id think there will be at least 3 (east, west, Europe) but we shall see

[DayOne]

Is it in the UK issue too or JUST the US version?

[Oryon22]

Just fell out of my chair

[duck]

Hey guys, if anyone knows the answer to this question please let me know!

Where can I get the physical copy of PC Gamer? I am not a subscriber, but I just want to purchase this edition. Do I get it at Gamestop or where at? Thanks!! and cant wait to see you all on the battlefield!

[Tigersmith]

Hey guys, if anyone knows the answer to this question please let me know!

Where can I get the physical copy of PC Gamer? I am not a subscriber, but I just want to purchase this edition. Do I get it at Gamestop or where at? Thanks!! and cant wait to see you all on the battlefield!

Book stores will be your best bet. Maybe Walmart?

[Aaron]

Well that's nice to know current and previous PS1 players will get first access. I love PSU.

[polywomple]

i think ive seen PC gamer in safeways and fred meyers... pretty sure

[TheRagingGerbil]

i think ive seen PC gamer in safeways and fred meyers... pretty sure

Freddys has it.

[FHMathew]

Great News, I love the cover image it's NC through and through blood all over haha.

I'm to exited, Time to go play Planetside to calm down :P I wonder if that will work lol.

[kwackerUK]

For all you UK people:

http://www.mymagstore.com/60561/728488/Computer-Games/PC-Gamer.html

[bjorntju1]

https://twitter.com/#!/mhigby/status/169879295097962496

OH GOD YES I AM SO EXITED :D :D :D

Too bad i don't live in the US or I would brought that magazine for sure. But I can't wait for the beta! :D



But...

Do EU players also get access?

[BlazeDragoon]

OH GOD YES I AM SO EXITED :D :D :D

Too bad i don't live in the US or I would brought that magazine for sure. But I can't wait for the beta! :D



But...

Do EU players also get acces?

If you were a planetside player you do.. EU players were planetside players so I assume yes:P.

[Geist]

We've been through a lot. PS1 Beta, launch, Core Combat, BFRs, Fodderside, the hacker plague. We've been in the dark for so long, with nothing, not even the smallest light(aka MMOFPS) in the darkness of the years... but dawn has come and the warhorns sound. Auraxis is calling and I will answer her.

WHO WILL JOIN ME!!!!

[polywomple]

PSU: The Outfit?

[Graywolves]

WHO WILL JOIN ME!!!!

You have my cycler

[KALU]

Does anybody know if the digital iPad editions of the mag also get the keys?

[Rabb]

For all you UK people:

http://www.mymagstore.com/60561/728488/Computer-Games/PC-Gamer.html

:love::love::love::love::love:

It is the Mar2012 on the site at the min we have to wait for the Apr2012 right?

[NivexQ]

Does anybody know if the digital iPad editions of the mag also get the keys?

It says Physical copies so I'm gonna go with no.

[bjorntju1]

If you were a planetside player you do.. EU players were planetside players so I assume yes:P.

Yeah indeed. And he also said no exceptions. So I guess so :P I also asked him on twitter so lets hope so! I don't mind playing on US servers. As long I can play the beta :)

[captainbaka]

Awsome pure awsome at least for people in NA. but i have the US ipad subscription do you think that will have a key in it? and for all people that arent in the northern america's the US ipad edition is like 4 dollars so you could buy that.

[dsi]

Awsome pure awsome at least for people in NA. but i have the US ipad subscription do you think that will have a key in it? and for all people that arent in the northern america's the US ipad edition is like 4 dollars so you could buy that.

It says each physical issue in the PCG news post.

[bjorntju1]

Awsome pure awsome at least for people in NA. but i have the US ipad subscription do you think that will have a key in it? and for all people that arent in the northern america's the US ipad edition is like 4 dollars so you could buy that.

Unfortunately it is physical only. However I will go to my book store tomorrow to see if they have PC gamer US here in Holland. I do remember by bookstore having English magazines. So I hope so! I am sure they won't have the PS2 issue. But i do can see if they have they previous one.

[wasdie]

They are just teasing us now. Even with the keys there is no official word on the exact date of the beta.

I'm guessing they are in the late stages of prepping for the beta though.

[kwackerUK]

:love::love::love::love::love:

It is the Mar2012 on the site at the min we have to wait for the Apr2012 right?

Yep, your just have to wait. It has been mentioned and i can confirm, current UK version of PC Gamer states for April edition:

Free Inside.... Exclusive Beta Access To A New Game... Hmm i wonder :o)

Hell gonna get a copy of the US version the moment it's available. Worth a punt. Now all i need is for nvidia to release the new cards asap.

[SniperSteve]

Oh Yes. Time to fail out of school!

[CidHighwind]

Oh Yes. Time to fail out of school!

This a thousand times over.

My grad school ambitions have just returned to my empire loyalty obligations full-time....

NC - It's only acts of terrorism when they catch you in the act - to us, its acts of freedom. Let those explosions ring loud and true...

:love:

[Rokazulu]

I don't even remember my PS1 account name. This could be challenging.

[Firefly]

I don't even remember my PS1 account name. This could be challenging.
Do you remember the email you used for registration?

[General M]

Call me Mr. Grumpypants but I'm a teensy weeny bit worried that there won't be a chance for me to play (no offence PS1 but I only found out about you 3 months ago and am not to keen on subscribing to a fading, 8 year old game). Even if I do manage to somehow get a key from the US, I'm not entirely convinced there will even be an EU server :(

[RedKnights]

http://qkme.me/3655gj

The fact they're throwing us testing this early means the game is probably pretty rough around the edges in terms of bugs... challenge accepted.

[ShazMyBot]

Glad I haven't used any of my sick time this year. I think I feel a gasto-intestinal virus coming in the next few weeks. :)

[colorpilot]

i hope they release beta keys in the UK as well, if not i will have to find me some american friends to get me a copy :o

[Hezzy]

For UK / EU people, this is what people were talking about in earlier pages;

http://i.imgur.com/yVbNC.jpg

[bjorntju1]

For UK / EU people, this is what people were talking about in earlier pages;

http://i.imgur.com/yVbNC.jpg

This is the next UK issue: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/02/15/pc-gamer-uk-march-issue-far-cry-3/

This month all of our readers get a key that will grant access to the excellent Tribes: Ascend beta, and six pounds worth of World of Tanks cash.

A Tribes beta key, no PlanetSide 2 unfortunately.

[Firefly]

"Free Inside" on the far right column:

Exclusive beta access to a new game

(doesn't necessarily mean Planetside)

[Hezzy]

A Tribes beta key, no PlanetSide 2 unfortunately.

There is no facepalm big enough.

Well, they didn't say an exciting or fun new game so I suppose they weren't necessarily deceiving anyone...

[SuperMorto]

Matthew Higby @mhigby Close
PS1 players, Fan Faire 2011 attendees and PC Gamer keys will have first access to beta once it begins.

This mean it will begin after the mag is out, so we will all have keys weeks before this I reckon. still looking at 2 months in my eyes.

Reason....... fan fair is a while away?

I did trawl this thread for info before hand, didnt see higbys tweet.

"These are my views only" ©2012

[NEWSKIS]

Someone smack me if this has been talked about before, but does PS1 players mean currently subscribed or just that you played at some point. I played from a month after release for about 7 years but havent had a sub for the past 2 years. Just wondering if I'm part of that PS1 players.

[Hydra]

Good evening.

I just made this account to ask a question I am hoping someone can give a clear answer to. How is this "Veteran Beta invitation" going to pan out? Do you have to be a active subscriber to be guaranteed access to beta? I've had my Planetside account since 2005 and been in and out since; but I don't play any more like I used to due to various reasons, however I am now currently using my 45 days given by SOE to play. Too be Honest I won't be excited until I have my own beta key for myself and I think its retarded to pay money to get access to beta. Also, Personally I'm not too crazy that there are newbies attempting to get into PS1 just so they can get into beta. Higby apparently said there are no restrictions if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite SO I hope that doesn't hurt anyone who actually is a veteran and doesn't get in due to a newbie taking his spot assuming Closed beta will have limited players.

But back to the pertaining question: Do I have to pay money to guarantee access to get into beta? I just don't trust SOE. And I apologize if what I wrote doesn't make sense, I'm am having trouble formulating my thoughts because I guess the anxiety is getting to me.

[Xaine]

Someone smack me if this has been talked about before, but does PS1 players mean currently subscribed or just that you played at some point. I played from a month after release for about 7 years but havent had a sub for the past 2 years. Just wondering if I'm part of that PS1 players.

-smack-

:)

But yes, the impression we seem to have been given is that if you own a copy of ps1, then that account will get a beta invite to ps2

[bjorntju1]

Someone smack me if this has been talked about before, but does PS1 players mean currently subscribed or just that you played at some point. I played from a month after release for about 7 years but havent had a sub for the past 2 years. Just wondering if I'm part of that PS1 players.

Good evening.

I just made this account to ask a question I am hoping someone can give a clear answer to. How is this "Veteran Beta invitation" going to pan out? Do you have to be a active subscriber to be guaranteed access to beta? I've had my Planetside account since 2005 and been in and out since; but I don't play any more like I used to due to various reasons, however I am now currently using my 45 days given by SOE to play. Too be Honest I won't be excited until I have my own beta key for myself and I think its retarded to pay money to get access to beta. Also, Personally I'm not too crazy that there are newbies attempting to get into PS1 just so they can get into beta. Higby apparently said there are no restrictions if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite SO I hope that doesn't hurt anyone who actually is a veteran and doesn't get in due to a newbie taking his spot assuming Closed beta will have limited players.

But back to the pertaining question: Do I have to pay money to guarantee access to get into beta? I just don't trust SOE. And I apologize if what I wrote doesn't make sense, I'm am having trouble formulating my thoughts because I guess the anxiety is getting to me.


No restrictions there. if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite, be sure your station acct email is accurate
:)

[Firefly]

Reason....... fan fair is a while away?
He said "Fan Faire 2011".

Which, as you may remember, was last year.

In 2011.

[kwackerUK]

This is the next UK issue: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/02/15/pc-gamer-uk-march-issue-far-cry-3/



A Tribes beta key, no PlanetSide 2 unfortunately.


That screen shot was taken in the March edition of PC Gamer so next month must be April right? The March edition has the Tribes beta key in it not the April edition.

[Espion]

Someone that buys a magazine should not be getting in before or even at the same time as people that are still subscribed to PS1. Period.

[Firefly]

Someone that buys a magazine should not be getting in before or even at the same time as people that are still subscribed to PS1. Period.
We already covered this. Welcome to six pages ago.

[Hydra]

-smack-

:)

But yes, the impression we seem to have been given is that if you own a copy of ps1, then that account will get a beta invite to ps2

:)


Can you hold me tight and tell me everything will be alright?

[NEWSKIS]

Wow I'm stupid lol, I thought I read every post but somehow missed the one that mattered.

[Shogun]

wait a minute...

there is a playtest in that magazine and it is already printed?
so the beta server is already up and running?
or did the pc-gamer guys played the game directly at soe?

[Firefly]

wait a minute...

there is a playtest in that magazine and it is already printed?
so the beta server is already up and running?
or did the pc-gamer guys played the game directly at soe?
Nobody's read the article yet. Best guess is, played it at SOE.

[Gortha]

Wow, i am that fu**ing happy i cryed very lound in my PC room when i read the Facebook-Update and clicked into the PC Gamer Issue Front Page Picture.

OMFG our big fat Slaughtering can begin soon :D

PS:
Lets hope that current subcribers outside the US also get a key :)

From FB:

"PlanetSide 2 Hello all! As previously stated, original PlanetSide 1 players and Fan Faire 2011 registered attendees will receive priority access to PlanetSide 2 beta as well. [Danicia]

PlanetSide 2 If you played/play PS1, you will have priority access. I'm working on getting more of your questions answered. Hang tight! [Danicia]"

[Azren]

Someone that buys a magazine should not be getting in before or even at the same time as people that are still subscribed to PS1. Period.

Meh, the more the merrier

[Espion]

We already covered this. Welcome to six pages ago.

It's not covered, at all. Regardless of whether both subscribers and PCGamer keys get in at the same time, some people have been subscribed to PS1 for years without a break in subbed time, and now those people are thrown into the same bucket as any random idiot that buys an issue of PCGamer.

At a very minimum there needs to be assurances of different feedback paths for new players (PCGamer keys), veteran players (PS1 subscribers), and possibly a competitive group for addressing finer points. I'm all for more players, and a PS beta will need to be big. But everyone's feedback is not equal, and those with a higher potential for more detailed/knowledgeable feedback should be put ahead of others.



Good effort trying to satisfy that ego though.

[Firefly]

It's not covered, at all.
Look dude, if you can't be bothered to go back and read the thread that's on you, not the rest of us that figured this shit out already.

[CidHighwind]

Look dude, if you can't be bothered to go back and read the thread that's on you, not the rest of us that figured this shit out already.

Firefly's moments of clarity and clarification make me happy.:groovy:

[Toonlad]

This is great news indeed, lets hope we can generate more press cover , for what this game really deserves. Its still a game unknown to lots of people out there, and a lot of people have never sampled the delights of the vertical learning curve of the game lol.

Good luck to those who gain access, hopefully its the good eggs that gain access and test it properly.

Regards
Toon

[Espion]

Look dude, if you can't be bothered to go back and read the thread that's on you, not the rest of us that figured this shit out already.

You're really good at pointing out what I already know, congrats. But now work on understanding what I'm saying. Your turn to go back and read over my post a couple times.

I know you were probably just some bluebie running around with thumper jammer packs in your max loadout (just in case!), but you should at least be able to see the merit in proper feedback channels and catering to those who actually have experience in the only other remotely similar game.

[demonicale]

US ONLY!, shafted again ... pfff :(

[Gortha]

I cried like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCiISDKmqNo

I´m HappY! http://z0r.de/2840

http://z0r.de/2053

[Rokazulu]

Do you remember the email you used for registration?

Oh if they send it to you in email before Feb. 28th that would save me some money.

[bjorntju1]

That screen shot was taken in the March edition of PC Gamer so next month must be April right? The March edition has the Tribes beta key in it not the April edition.

That article was posted today. That is the next issue. I don't know why the UK version is March and US is April.

Talking about that... Why does PC gamer US put out an April issue, when it comes out at the end of febuary? I see many magazines do this but I never saw the point in it.

[etheral]

US ONLY!, shafted again ... pfff :(

We dont know if the beta itself is US only.

[Zhane]

It's not covered, at all. Regardless of whether both subscribers and PCGamer keys get in at the same time, some people have been subscribed to PS1 for years without a break in subbed time, and now those people are thrown into the same bucket as any random idiot that buys an issue of PCGamer.

At a very minimum there needs to be assurances of different feedback paths for new players (PCGamer keys), veteran players (PS1 subscribers), and possibly a competitive group for addressing finer points. I'm all for more players, and a PS beta will need to be big. But everyone's feedback is not equal, and those with a higher potential for more detailed/knowledgeable feedback should be put ahead of others.



Good effort trying to satisfy that ego though.

You've got balls to talk about ego. You think that a PS1 player's opinion should be given more weight than the unwashed masses? That's the thought process I see here. A different feedback path? My God. You really think a lot of yourself. Self important dicks give forum communities a bad rap.

Everyone's feedback is equal. Because you played a decade old game has no bearing on your ability to properly test a new one. Your opinion matters exactly as much as everyone else who may spend money on PS2. They're doing you a favor and stroking your little ego by ensuring you get in along with everyone else. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake and you are no more qualified to test and give feedback than anyone else.

And that's coming from a PS1 vet, for the record.

[Hydra]

It's not covered, at all. Regardless of whether both subscribers and PCGamer keys get in at the same time, some people have been subscribed to PS1 for years without a break in subbed time, and now those people are thrown into the same bucket as any random idiot that buys an issue of PCGamer.

At a very minimum there needs to be assurances of different feedback paths for new players (PCGamer keys), veteran players (PS1 subscribers), and possibly a competitive group for addressing finer points. I'm all for more players, and a PS beta will need to be big. But everyone's feedback is not equal, and those with a higher potential for more detailed/knowledgeable feedback should be put ahead of others.




I agree 100%
However I don't really care about being in-game with a new idiot player as long as SOE keep their word about giving Veterans special treatment (20% stronger, hopefully redesigned PS1 outfits) And SOE keeping their word is exactly why I'm worried, although I am impress with the amount of communication The PS team has with the fans I certainly hope that it isn't a facade.

[Ailos]

That article was posted today. That is the next issue. I don't know why the UK version is March and US is April.

Talking about that... Why does PC gamer US put out an April issue, when it comes out at the end of febuary? I see many magazines do this but I never saw the point in it.

I think it's just their way of getting around the fact that printed publications are usually yesterday's news, so you'll notice papers try to report what's happened in the last 24 hours, and magazines try to give a future outlook type of thing. The reason why it's the April issue but it comes out at end of Feb is probably because of some trade war... one publisher pushes out their stuff a week early, another one comes along and tries to beat them by putting out their stuff 2 weeks early... and then it just gets works from there.

[Firefly]

I know you were probably just some bluebie running around with a thumper jammer packs in your max loadout (just in case!
You're just all fucking sorts of wrong today. Try dangling your nuts in an open desk drawer and letting someone kick the fucker shut - maybe that'll present you with some clarity on the issue. You wanna talk about feedback? Go submit your feedback to the appropriate place - whining like a little girl with a skinned-up knee in a video game forum isn't it.

And since your entire most-recent post is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, AND since you're unable to properly read the fucking forum thread without asking a question that was basically resolved by one SOE official and multiple quotes to an SOE official's twitter post, you're essentially a troll so move the fuck out and draw fire from someone else. I'm done with you. Welcome to my ignore list, can't have you cluttering up my forum browsing.

[Gortha]

It's not covered, at all. Regardless of whether both subscribers and PCGamer keys get in at the same time, some people have been subscribed to PS1 for years without a break in subbed time, and now those people are thrown into the same bucket as any random idiot that buys an issue of PCGamer.

At a very minimum there needs to be assurances of different feedback paths for new players (PCGamer keys), veteran players (PS1 subscribers), and possibly a competitive group for addressing finer points. I'm all for more players, and a PS beta will need to be big. But everyone's feedback is not equal, and those with a higher potential for more detailed/knowledgeable feedback should be put ahead of others.


Good effort trying to satisfy that ego though.

I support this. It´s important that the feedback from Planetside Veterans
must be priorised.
Overall they know more than the average shooter Joe, what they are talking about.

[Shanesan]

You guys realize that "priority beta" like this - people getting beta in magazines - means that they don't give a shit about beta, and it's just an advertisement, right?

They should be taking this beta seriously, but instead Sony is proving they don't care about the balance or gameplay testing, and they'll just throw in random people to play and make the game look terrible.

Once again, Sony is showing their skill at making terrible decisions.

[Firefly]

Oh if they send it to you in email before Feb. 28th that would save me some money.
Sorry, this got lost in the drama caused by idiots who can't read and are cluttering up the forum with their hysterical tears of rage.

The reason why I asked is because if you know what email you used on your original account you can go to SOE's Customer Support page and try to get your account recovered. I think they also have a phone number that you can call. OR, if the email you used is current and valid, then you don't have to worry.

[sylphaen]

EDIT: took out my post. I was slightly out of context.

[PoisonTaco]

We get beta keys and all people do is fight over who is more valuable. Here's a hint:

Everyone reading this forum will get to play. Whether you're a PS1 veteran or not you will get to play in the PS2 beta. SOE will take your feedback regardless of your game history. They don't care, all they'll want is for you to tell them how much fun you're having.

Stop flaming about it before it gets to the point where admins have to step in.

[etheral]

You've got balls to talk about ego. You think that a PS1 player's opinion should be given more weight than the unwashed masses? That's the thought process I see here. A different feedback path? My God. You really think a lot of yourself. Self important dicks give forum communities a bad rap.

Everyone's feedback is equal. Because you played a decade old game has no bearing on your ability to properly test a new one. Your opinion matters exactly as much as everyone else who may spend money on PS2. They're doing you a favor and stroking your little ego by ensuring you get in along with everyone else. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake and you are no more qualified to test and give feedback than anyone else.

And that's coming from a PS1 vet, for the record.

This absolutely needed to be said. This community is great, but the sense of entitlement some people have here is really starting to get on my nerves.

For the record: Soe/the PS2 Dev team dont owe you ANYTHING. You paid for PS1, possibly for many years, fair enough. But you havent paid so much as a penny for PS2. You are entitled to nothing but what SOE chooses to give you. It sucks, but there you are

[Espion]

And since your entire most-recent post is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, AND since you're unable to properly read the fucking forum thread without asking a question that was basically resolved by one SOE official and multiple quotes to an SOE official's twitter post, you're essentially a troll so move the fuck out and draw fire from someone else. I'm done with you. Welcome to my ignore list, can't have you cluttering up my forum browsing.

logic not compatible


also sad you did not enlighten me with your extravagant tales of PS1 ownage :(

[bjorntju1]

I think it's just their way of getting around the fact that printed publications are usually yesterday's news, so you'll notice papers try to report what's happened in the last 24 hours, and magazines try to give a future outlook type of thing. The reason why it's the April issue but it comes out at end of Feb is probably because of some trade war... one publisher pushes out their stuff a week early, another one comes along and tries to beat them by putting out their stuff 2 weeks early... and then it just gets works from there.

Ah all right, that makes more sense :)

[Graywolves]

Go play with you TR buddies

He's not my buddy


For people who somehow missed the blue post by danicia or the various tweets on it...


https://twitter.com/#!/mhigby/status/169879295097962496

TA-DA!!!

[Gortha]

You've got balls to talk about ego. You think that a PS1 player's opinion should be given more weight than the unwashed masses? That's the thought process I see here. A different feedback path? My God. You really think a lot of yourself. Self important dicks give forum communities a bad rap.

Everyone's feedback is equal. Because you played a decade old game has no bearing on your ability to properly test a new one. Your opinion matters exactly as much as everyone else who may spend money on PS2. They're doing you a favor and stroking your little ego by ensuring you get in along with everyone else. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake and you are no more qualified to test and give feedback than anyone else.

And that's coming from a PS1 vet, for the record.

No - and you know it.
Close your head:bang:

[Ailos]

I agree 100%
However I don't really care about being in-game with a new idiot player as long as SOE keep their word about giving Veterans special treatment (20% stronger, hopefully redesigned PS1 outfits) And SOE keeping their word is exactly why I'm worried, although I am impress with the amount of communication The PS team has with the fans I certainly hope that it isn't a facade.

Don't overdo it. Make us vets stand out too much in any way beyond just cosmetically, and that's just as bad as a pay-to-win strategy.

In all reality, I'm leaning more towards the all feedback is valuable attitude. If you're wanting to test the game properly and do a good job, then as a tester, all you have to do is give detailed and accurate reports of any problems you find, while a newer player may simply leave a sentce or just a few words about the problem. You feedback should be more valuable because you should be making it more valuable, not because you need a separate forum that SOE patrols more frequently to post it in.

This game needs to be a success. To me, having fun in this game will mean having lot of enemies, and the number of enemies is directly related to how popular the game is. That means the game has to be fun for everyone, not just us vets. That means that during beta, everyone has the same access, whether you played PS1 or whether you just got your key in cerial box.

[VioletZero]

You guys realize that "priority beta" like this - people getting beta in magazines - means that they don't give a shit about beta, and it's just an advertisement, right?

They should be taking this beta seriously, but instead Sony is proving they don't care about the balance or gameplay testing, and they'll just throw in random people to play and make the game look terrible.

Once again, Sony is showing their skill at making terrible decisions.

Actually, throwing in random people would be PREFERABLE.

What they want is to sample from random groups of people to get a wide range of feedback. But this beta clearly favors planetside fans.

Not saying their input isn't important but you can't have them, or any other specific group, be the dominant voice in feedback. For example, if this forum is any indication, fans just want Planetside 1 again when it was in its "good old days"(Read: Not BFRs) with better graphics. Knowing MMO gamers, and I do, we all have a very gilded view of the good old days.

Although I disagree with the method, I'm not going to argue with getting priority in the beta for selfish reasons. :D

[Shogun]

I agree 100%
However I don't really care about being in-game with a new idiot player as long as SOE keep their word about giving Veterans special treatment (20% stronger, hopefully redesigned PS1 outfits) And SOE keeping their word is exactly why I'm worried, although I am impress with the amount of communication The PS team has with the fans I certainly hope that it isn't a facade.

lol

where did soe promise to make ps1 veterans 20% stronger than other players?
you did some serious misreading there! don´t blame soe if they don´t keep promises they never gave. the 20% thing was about the difference between a noob and a player that already maxed all of his cert trees - a ps2 veteran.

[Tigersmith]

Guys. Stop complaining about this priority bullshit.


They need a huge sample size of players to optimize this game for launch..more the better. Im 100000% fine with it.


Remember that game Rift? They had like a 6 month open beta..Anyone and their mom could get in. To date they have had the smoothest launch I have ever seen of ANY MMO PERIOD.

it was pretty well done job by Trion Worlds. So maybe they are taking a page from them?

[sylphaen]

Guys. Stop complaining about this priority bullshit.


They need a huge sample size of players to optimize this game for launch..more the better. Im 100000% fine with it.


Remember that game Rift? They had like a 6 month open beta..Anyone and their mom could get in. To date they have had the smoothest launch I have ever seen of ANY MMO PERIOD.

it was pretty well done job by Trion Worlds. So maybe they are taking a page from them?

Agreed. I don't think the devs will forget veterans this time around either. e.g.: veteran merits (I still would not bet my house on it due to SOE past-mistakes)

Let's give them some slack, we'll see how beta goes...

btw Tiger, thanks for your efforts in getting more info about those keys.

[Espion]

You've got balls to talk about ego. You think that a PS1 player's opinion should be given more weight than the unwashed masses? That's the thought process I see here. A different feedback path? My God. You really think a lot of yourself. Self important dicks give forum communities a bad rap.

Everyone's feedback is equal. Because you played a decade old game has no bearing on your ability to properly test a new one. Your opinion matters exactly as much as everyone else who may spend money on PS2. They're doing you a favor and stroking your little ego by ensuring you get in along with everyone else. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake and you are no more qualified to test and give feedback than anyone else.

And that's coming from a PS1 vet, for the record.

My ego is always satisfied at all times, eventually you just get to that point. Work on it.


Anyone that thinks the old coordinated outfits coming back (DT, HT, etc, not going to list them all) are not going to completely dominate from day 1 is either a troll or delusional.

Aside from them already knowing PS1 inside-out, just being as tightly coordinated as the are guarantees that they'll learn more about the game and be able to find more bugs and address more balance/gameplay issues a lot faster than anyone else. Each already existing outfit is like a focus group in waiting.

[polywomple]

pretty sure higby is lolling at this thread right now

[NewSith]

This thread defines "hot".

Also I'm still interested if the first beta phase is going to be "schedule" style or "full-time access" style.


Sidenote:
Are there any people from Canada here or people who can clarify, if Canadians have their own PCG or US PCG?

[Hydra]

Don't overdo it. Make us vets stand out too much in any way beyond just cosmetically, and that's just as bad as a pay-to-win strategy.

In all reality, I'm leaning more towards the all feedback is valuable attitude. If you're wanting to test the game properly and do a good job, then as a tester, all you have to do is give detailed and accurate reports of any problems you find, while a newer player may simply leave a sentce or just a few words about the problem. You feedback should be more valuable because you should be making it more valuable, not because you need a separate forum that SOE patrols more frequently to post it in.

This game needs to be a success. To me, having fun in this game will mean having lot of enemies, and the number of enemies is directly related to how popular the game is. That means the game has to be fun for everyone, not just us vets. That means that during beta, everyone has the same access, whether you played PS1 or whether you just got your key in cerial box.


I agree but there should be some sort of indication that a player was a veteran player, redesign outfit is probably pushing it, but never the less I'm just saying. But yes this game has to be successful and although I am not above elitism I do agree that putting aside precious egos is needed for constructive feedback. Alot of people I know don't even play Video games anymore and many old outfits are dead; Some people think that only veterans should get into Beta and if that's the case we are looking at what? 100 people? We need the new players but at the same time I feel original PS players deserve recognition.



lol

the 20% thing was about the difference between a noob and a player that already maxed all of his cert trees - a ps2 veteran.

That's all you needed to say without the meaningless dribble.
Thank you for that clarification.

[Gortha]

pretty sure higby is lolling at this thread right now

Why should he? Because we are argueing like little kids about how important Vets are compared to 0815 Guys? :D

INSTEAD of just beeing happy?:lol:

Well you may be right, but the little fear of eventually beeing cheated again by SOE is a fear old gamers have a right to. SOE did it several times in several games.

But now, let be hAPPY :D

[Mightymouser]

You've got balls to talk about ego. You think that a PS1 player's opinion should be given more weight than the unwashed masses? That's the thought process I see here. A different feedback path? My God. You really think a lot of yourself. Self important dicks give forum communities a bad rap.

Everyone's feedback is equal. Because you played a decade old game has no bearing on your ability to properly test a new one. Your opinion matters exactly as much as everyone else who may spend money on PS2. They're doing you a favor and stroking your little ego by ensuring you get in along with everyone else. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake and you are no more qualified to test and give feedback than anyone else.

And that's coming from a PS1 vet, for the record.This absolutely needed to be said. This community is great, but the sense of entitlement some people have here is really starting to get on my nerves.

For the record: Soe/the PS2 Dev team dont owe you ANYTHING. You paid for PS1, possibly for many years, fair enough. But you havent paid so much as a penny for PS2. You are entitled to nothing but what SOE chooses to give you. It sucks, but there you are

From a 'what we're owed' stand point I'd agree. I don't think anyone (worth listening to) is actually claiming we have some legal right to special treatment in PS2. On the other hand, in terms of ability to play test the game, and understand it's particulars, long time PS players certainly have insights which non-PS players likely do not. I'm not saying that every PS1-vet's feedback should outweigh any non-vet's feedback; rather I'm noting that there are many players from PS1 who have a great deal better understanding of how the only game like PS2 (i.e., PS1) works, than someone off the street. Also, long time vets have proven a devotion to the game which is important when considering a playtester's feedback. Many playtesters play the beta and never even buy the released game; these folks shouldn't be determining the style of the game for die-hard PS players who have proven a devotion to the PS franchise.


Yes, PS2 is going to be different from PS1; however, since the latter is largely based off the former, it's reasonable to assume there are going to be many overlapping areas. Therefore it is certainly reasonable to say that veteran PS1 players will have greater insight into how PS2 should be developed. I'd draw an equivalency to two CR5's arguing over how a fight should go in PS1; one who is a multi-year veteran CR5, and the other who just got his backpack. The older CR5 likely has a much greater understanding of how the fight will progress, and can foresee how certain events will unfold much better than the new CR5. I think that same idea can carry over to the new game, in that older vets can look at a situation and have a better idea how that situation will work out in the long run, as opposed to someone who has only played standard FPSes (or standard MMORPGs). Obviously, you get good players and bad in both cases; but I think on the whole, long time PS1 vets are more likely to provide insightful feedback.


All of that said; we don't really know what they're going to do until they tell us more, so we'll just have to wait and see...

[lolroflroflcake]

This thread defines "hot".

Also I'm still interested if the first beta phase is going to be "schedule" style or "full-time access" style.


Sidenote:
Are there any people from Canada here or people who can clarify, if Canadians have their own PCG or US PCG?

I live right on the border to the states so I'll let you know if I can get my hands on it. Although it may just be luck since I do live so close.

[Whoknowswhat1]

1000v1000v1000 is very big... If you take The total amount of PS1 players that subscribed (Peaked around 75k so assume 100k total subs) If everyone of those 100k get into beta (minus people who wont play being the people who didnt like the first one, who dont have that email, who dont have the time or better things to do, who think their computer isnt good enough or other various reasons) figure 50k will get into beta. Of those 50k how many are in different time-zones meaning different play times and peak hours? so if they want 1000v1000v1000 going at all times (maybe more) on different servers (or even the same server with different planets/conts), EDIT: (thought i put this in, but i apparently didnt) they would need more than that

Those too lazy to read the above paragraph read this:
In short... They need a lot of people, more than the orig planetside. so if they get 200k+ from PC Gamer, to provide MORE input, they would do it in a second.

One downside of Planetside1 was that they didnt advertise as much as they should have. So can we really complain that they are doing it for this game?

EDIT: **Disclaimer** This is all done in my head, i.e. no mathematical evidence to back it up. I would not expect you to believe it 100% (nor want you to) but merely consider it.

[NewSith]

I live right on the border to the states so I'll let you know if I can get my hands on it.

Nah the point is, I'm from Europe, but I have some relatives in Canada, so I was wondering if I can ask them to send me the issue.

[Mightymouser]

1000v1000v1000 is very big...

It's somewhere around... what.. 3000?

[Whoknowswhat1]

It's somewhere around... what.. 3000?

That is the most recent theory concerning the number of players on a Cont/planet or in a certain KM radius.

Please re-read original post made some edits

[Soothsayer]

I'm glad to think that this is an indication of how close beta is.

A lot of people have a sense of entitlement and I can see how that would have come about. I felt the same way last year with the vague comments that were made regarding "planetside next".

But these things matter less now and soon won't matter at all.

Some of my top gaming experiences came from SOE and although it is all right to be wary of some statements, I give them credit for some of the best gaming experiences I've had.

[KALU]

somehow i dont think the numbers will be that great all in one spot although it would be interesting. I will be happy with the numbers we had in PS1 i.e: 300x300x300 at peak

[etheral]

From a 'what we're owed' stand point I'd agree. I don't think anyone (worth listening to) is actually claiming we have some legal right to special treatment in PS2. On the other hand, in terms of ability to play test the game, and understand it's particulars, long time PS players certainly have insights which non-PS players likely do not. I'm not saying that every PS1-vet's feedback should outweigh any non-vet's feedback; rather I'm noting that there are many players from PS1 who have a great deal better understanding of how the only game like PS2 (i.e., PS1) works, than someone off the street. Also, long time vets have proven a devotion to the game which is important when considering a playtester's feedback. Many playtesters play the beta and never even buy the released game; these folks shouldn't be determining the style of the game for die-hard PS players who have proven a devotion to the PS franchise.


Yes, PS2 is going to be different from PS1; however, since the latter is largely based off the former, it's reasonable to assume there are going to be many overlapping areas. Therefore it is certainly reasonable to say that veteran PS1 players will have greater insight into how PS2 should be developed. I'd draw an equivalency to two CR5's arguing over how a fight should go in PS1; one who is a multi-year veteran CR5, and the other who just got his backpack. The older CR5 likely has a much greater understanding of how the fight will progress, and can foresee how certain events will unfold much better than the new CR5. I think that same idea can carry over to the new game, in that older vets can look at a situation and have a better idea how that situation will work out in the long run, as opposed to someone who has only played standard FPSes (or standard MMORPGs). Obviously, you get good players and bad in both cases; but I think on the whole, long time PS1 vets are more likely to provide insightful feedback.


All of that said; we don't really know what they're going to do until they tell us more, so we'll just have to wait and see...

I can see the sense of that :)

However, we know next to nothing about the nitty gritty of PS2's gameplay (though i imagine this will soon change), so it may be that most of what us PS1 vets learned over the years is useless in the context of PS2. The only real advantage guys like us would have over a completely new player is organisational skill.

[Soothsayer]

Nah the point is, I'm from Europe, but I have some relatives in Canada, so I was wondering if I can ask them to send me the issue.

Ask them to go to a "Chapters" or "Indigo" and they will find PCGamer magazines in those stores. Its the nation-wide chain and I guarantee they'll stock them.

[NewSith]

Shit, I can't sleep now. DAMN IT!

[NewSith]

Ask them to go to a "Chapters" or "Indigo" and they will find PCGamer magazines in those stores. Its the nation-wide chain and I guarantee they'll stock them.

Thank you very much, good sir!

EDIT:
I can't figure out if I need that magazine. Too much confusion! I still don't understand if unsubbed PS1 players will enter the first beta stage. And if they do, will it be like 100% of the PS1 players who bought the original game?
Arggggghhhh... *ANGER*CONFUSION*

[Whoknowswhat1]

somehow i dont think the numbers will be that great all in one spot although it would be interesting. I will be happy with the numbers we had in PS1 i.e: 300x300x300 at peak

At one point one of the Devs said something along the lines of "Thousands of players battling for a singe objective"

I think it would be safe to assume that that would be more than 300 Cubed

[KALU]

hahahaha This post in on FIRE!!!! loving it!

Its like the night before Christmas!!!!

[SniperSteve]

only everyone gets presents regardless if they are good or bad, lol.

[waldizzo]

I'm very much looking forward to everyone getting their hands on the beta. So many questions will be answered in such a short period of time. Can finally start getting some videos out (assuming no restrictive NDA) and get some fan generated hype going. Good times ahead!

[joemonkey]

At one point one of the Devs said something along the lines of "Thousands of players battling for a singe objective"

I think it would be safe to assume that that would be more than 300 Cubed

300 cubed = 27,000,000 so yeah....I can hope for that as well, but I dunno :lol:

[Hermes]

This thread has been growing faster than my tired eyes can read... desperately seeking the end so I can post and then get some sleep.

*ahem*

Hurray! :)

[RadarX]

We are very glad to see everyone so excited about the PC Gamer cover and Beta keys. I'm seeing a lot of speculation and rumor flying around in this thread. Danicia has cleared up everything we'll be able to at the moment. We will of course provide more information as it becomes available.

[Whoknowswhat1]

300 cubed = 27,000,000 so yeah....I can hope for that as well, but I dunno :lol:

300 cubed meaning 300x300x300 instead of 300v300v300. i thought it was a sick way of saying it lol.

[BigBossMonkey]

We are very glad to see everyone so excited about the PC Gamer cover and Beta keys. I'm seeing a lot of speculation and rumor flying around in this thread. Danicia has cleared up everything we'll be able to at the moment. We will of course provide more information as it becomes available.

I just wish you could say when it actually starts :(

[Tigersmith]

I just wish you could say when it actually starts :(

be patient

[NewSith]

I just wish you could say when it actually starts :(

I honestly think they can't say for sure themselves. I won't be surprised if the beta doesn't start with the PCG issue, but rather gives you the key for later access.

Yeah, /flameon

[Whoknowswhat1]

We are very glad to see everyone so excited about the PC Gamer cover and Beta keys.
Extreme understatement. I'm about to get sent to the hospital due to extreme hysteria.


I'm seeing a lot of speculation and rumor flying around in this thread.
some speculation isnt good... be sure to direct us in if we get down the wrong alley

Danicia has cleared up everything we'll be able to at the moment. We will of course provide more information as it becomes available.

Quote(s) from facebook:
"Bradford Smith [ME]: Danicia, if could, i would kiss you right now :) what great news"

"Well, better me than RadarX, right? :) [Danicia]"

[jakaul]

I have two main points and a side thing...

First, there are some very good reasons to give priority to current (and former) players of PS1. Foremost, you have very dedicated, excited, and willing beta testers. These are going to be people that are playing the game with the intent to continue playing it once it releases, which means they are far more likely to do in depth testing and analysis of the current game state. They will likely provide much better and more thorough feedback to the developers because they actually care about the game. I've beta tested quite a few games and the ones I didn't care about were played for a few weeks and dropped when I figured out I wasn't going to invest in the game. I never provided feedback; the beta test was simply a "demo" for me to see if I'd play it when it released. Having a mobilized and enthusiastic community already waiting to test your game is invaluable.

With that being said, it is also important for there to be outside perspective when it comes to a new game simply because it's a new game. It won't play like PS1 and the people used to PS1 may not be willing to comprehend that. The game will require a very large population of players, so you're going to need to sustain way more than those of us that have stuck with PS1 for years and years. There are going to be changes we won't like that appeal to the masses, which isn't necessarily a horrible thing...but it's important for the health of the final product.

Now who gets priority? In my opinion, your current and former fanbase will provide you with far better testing than random people from a magazine (a LARGE portion of which may not even like FPS games). They're motivated and mobilized already, just waiting to be let in. It makes sense, in my opinion. From a *loyalty* point, I'd personally be pretty pissed if PS1 vets got left out, but I'm also a firm believer in companies being loyal to their customers, especially if it actually HELPS the company. Doesn't really hurt them to give us all the invites, but it damn well would hurt them not to - to put it this way, nobody in the world is going to buy PS2 because they didn't invite PS1 vets...but I'm willing to bet a number of PS1 vets would flip the middle finger to PS2 if they were excluded. Right or wrong, that's what I think reality is.

My second point is even better. Mouser is a god amongst men. Feel fortunate he graced you with his words and presence.

And wasn't FireFly from BWC?

[joemonkey]

300 cubed meaning 300x300x300 instead of 300v300v300. i thought it was a sick way of saying it lol.

Actually it was nifty, just being a dick ;)

[Firefly]

And wasn't FireFly from BWC?
Is. Not was.

As far as your point about loyalty, I'm in full agreement. My issue is with stupidity and ignorance, along with willful refusal to read the thread, and this retarded insistence that magazine readers are getting in before PS veterans, when it's been stated for a year starting with Smedley's posts last year that original subscribers got priority all the way to two SOE people saying PS subscribers are being taken care of.

I do worry about a significant portion of Planetside players skewing the feedback, something like "OMFG THIS IS NOT HOW IT WAS IN PS!" or anything of a similar vein. But it's just a worry - we'll see what happens when beta finally hits.

[Akemo]

Joking aside, there will be tons of keys for vets. They will be their main source for improvement ad balance ideas, and testing various game tactics. They cant expect someone who is new to game to understand it fast and start doing some organized stuff. Random betatesters will be there to test FPS part of game. Vets will be there to test planedside part.

BAM!

"What was that?"

"That, my boy, was the sound of knowledge being dropped on your ass."

[joemonkey]

I have two main points and a side thing...


Its already sorted - PS vets, Fanfaire 2011 folks, and PC Gamer April edition owners are going to be taken care of when it comes to beta. And to the topic at hand, I personally have no problem with them GETTING A MAGAZINE COVER AND ADVERTISING THE GAME and getting more folks to play the game. Worst case scenario, you have a fuckton of folks to slaughter in beta, that sounds horrible I know, but trust me it will be funner that way.



And wasn't FireFly from BWC?
Firefly IS BWC :)

[jakaul]

Is. Not was.

As far as your point about loyalty, I'm in full agreement. My issue is with stupidity and ignorance, along with willful refusal to read the thread, and this retarded insistence that magazine readers are getting in before PS veterans, when it's been stated for a year starting with Smedley's posts last year that original subscribers got priority all the way to two SOE people saying PS subscribers are being taken care of.

I do worry about a significant portion of Planetside players skewing the feedback, something like "OMFG THIS IS NOT HOW IT WAS IN PS!" or anything of a similar vein. But it's just a worry - we'll see what happens when beta finally hits.

I'd counter the "stupidity and ignorance" thing with two thoughts - passion for the game and the history of SOE's "promises". Nothing against the PS2 crew, they've gone above and beyond with their twitter feeds and communication to the community. Actually, I don't recall ever seeing a development group that in tune with customers. It's refreshing.

But I don't blame anyone for questioning SOE and whether their statements hold up. They haven't in the past. Trust is a fickle beast.

[General M]

Being a killjoy here but I'm a bit sceptical that there won't be an EU beta (i.e pointless getting a code/magazine from US). Obviously there's plenty of time for them to announce something different but I haven't seen anything suggesting there will be (nothing saying there won't be either though :P).

[jakaul]

Firefly IS BWC :)

Yeah, I had a hunch lol.

[Hmr85]

:rock::rock::rock: I am so Excited...I just can't hide it!!!! lol. This news has made my day. :rock::rock::rock::bouncy:

[Hydra]

Is. Not was.

As far as your point about loyalty, I'm in full agreement. My issue is with stupidity and ignorance, along with willful refusal to read the thread, and this retarded insistence that magazine readers are getting in before PS veterans, when it's been stated for a year starting with Smedley's posts last year that original subscribers got priority all the way to two SOE people saying PS subscribers are being taken care of.


I just wanted to say quickly since I will not be posting in these forums for long is that you are one of my favorite posters after all these years of lurking. You haven't change and I like the fact you don't sugarcoat things either. These generation of people have a hard time thinking before they talk and responding before they read. Its a shame that I couldn't find people like you during the time I was searching for a suitable "online family". I know I'm probably the minority here but I hope players that aren't in outfits don't miss out on the vast experiences PS2 is sure to deliver. I just have a problem trusting SOE.

[KALU]

I think beta will be as it was in PS1 - global.

Us Aussies got in on the first wave from memory i would "assume" the same thing will happen.

[Akemo]

Glad I haven't used any of my sick time this year. I think I feel a gasto-intestinal virus coming in the next few weeks. :)

You've got an amazing sense for these things... picking up on a coming virus weeks before you actually get "sick" - incredible! You're a true hero sir!

[Espion]

And wasn't FireFly from BWC?

Is. Not was.


This explain a lot. I was once mass appealed by this outfit because a double gal drop of theirs got damage by my mines/spits, then died instantly to an cavelocked/painmodded/boosted spawn room after they got inside (like 20 kills in 5s), awarding all the kills to me in the killspam.

Many lols were had by all (but mostly just me)



I would also like to take this time to acknowledge the accuracy of my initial post: (edited for empire of course)

I know you were probably just some greybie running around with thumper jammer packs in your max loadout (just in case!)

[Firefly]

the history of SOE's "promises" [...] But I don't blame anyone for questioning SOE and whether their statements hold up. They haven't in the past. Trust is a fickle beast.

I just have a problem trusting SOE.
I'm among the camp that severely distrusts SOE. I was an open and vocal critic of John Smedley back in 2009-ish when he was saying he loved Planetside. I felt, at the time, that there was no way this could be true considering how poorly they treated the game. As I got to know him through his intimate interactions with the PSU community, I decided not to troll him like others were but to give him a chance. And when I heard about Planetside:Next, I was suspicious and distrustful. But one cannot very well attempt to enjoy a game whilst waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Regardless of how we've all seen SOE fuck up a game, at the end of the day those are largely going to be corporate decisions. I've been on both sides of a video game - as a player, and as a developer. I also understand that these people, Higby and T-ray and even CSR-DanB, these are human beings who are working on a game as their chosen profession. They're putting their heart and soul into the game. They are busting their ass to bring us, and the world, something that is damn near revolutionary.

I'm not an advocate of blind faith. But I'm an advocate of good faith and the benefit of the doubt. I'm not going to let my bitter experiences and my disappointment and rage cloud the overall goals: enjoying myself and enjoying Planetside 2.

Hydra, as for your other statements: you're welcome to join our online community. (http://www.the-bwc.com)

Yeah, I had a hunch lol.
Do I know you?

[Brusi]

bump!

[Akemo]

bump!

You bumped a thread that had been posted in one minute earlier. Wow.

Seriously though, this thread is worth that kind of attention! Beta approaches!

[HitbackTR]

I'm a PS vet and I don't give a flying fuck whether I get into beta or not as long as when the game goes live it is well populated with minimal bugs and solid gameplay. Planetside was revolutionary, offering a type of thoroughly addictive and satisfying gameplay previously unseen. I'm willing to wait that much longer for it to happen this time around as well.

[jakaul]

I'm a PS vet and I don't give a flying fuck whether I get into beta or not as long as when the game goes live it is well populated with minimal bugs and solid gameplay. Planetside was revolutionary, offering a type of thoroughly addictive and satisfying gameplay previously unseen. I'm willing to wait that much longer for it to happen this time around as well.

Well, it's not EA doing the game, so things are already looking WAY up!

[Graywolves]

Well, it's not EA doing the game, so things are already looking WAY up!

:rofl:

[NewSith]

Well, it's not EA doing the game, so things are already looking WAY up!

If the game is not fucked up at release I'm so gonna hire people to just point the face of a man responsible for BF3 patches at it. Point it so hard that his nose bleeds.

[ShazMyBot]

You've got an amazing sense for these things... picking up on a coming virus weeks before you actually get "sick" - incredible! You're a true hero sir!

My highly tuned EMS-ESP has yet to fail me.

Conveniently I also had bouts of illness around the BC, WotLK, and Tribes: Ascend betas. Guess certain illnesses are directly linked to Beta Testing. Someone should do a study on that.

[HitbackTR]

My highly tuned EMS-ESP has yet to fail me.

Conveniently I also had bouts of illness around the BC, WotLK, and Tribes: Ascend betas. Guess certain illnesses are directly linked to Beta Testing. Someone should do a study on that.

Go outside more, do your immune system a favour.

[jakaul]

If the game is not fucked up at release I'm so gonna hire people to just point the face of a man responsible for BF3 patches at it. Point it so hard that his nose bleeds.

He's probably the same guy in charge of SWTOR updates. :(

[WiteBeam]

So what about those of us who have played the past 8 years but don't have an active account this month because I'm about to move across the country?