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mikkyT
2003-03-07, 05:25 AM
Just a lil' link I found whilst searching for something totally unrelated to war! Funny what search engines throw at you, it's almost like they are telling us something...

http://www.electrotoxic.com/oil.htm

Think this refers to the previous 1991 conflict, but still applies today I guess.

Disclaimer: In no way does the link above reflect or otherwise the views of mikkyT or his associates

xuur
2003-03-07, 12:08 PM
I sooo want to say something bout selfish whiney cowards and total lack of appreciation for honor, duty and country.

not to mention a lack of faith or the ability to stand for something bigger than ones self.


but I wont.

none the less, an "interesting" read.

(the above comments are in no way targeted towards the original poster...or even really the person who posted the site in the first place. just rambling opinions by someone of narrow vision, self righteously indignant attitude and a total lack of caffine)

peace

x

Mtx
2003-03-07, 12:25 PM
If the government was truthful and just said "hey we need the oil to stay rich." I'd join up and go frag some tyrants for their oil. Unfortunatly they have to make up a story and lie to the world to get the same goals done. I have no respect for those without honor or integrity.

Thus I like my countries Army and hate its government... I also hate a lot of officers. I like some but hate a lot more. Oh and I hate most civilians as well. I hate redlights and stop signs to. Have you seen this shit? It's like they're everywhere. I find that if you just go through them you get where you're going a lot faster.
:D

Hamma
2003-03-07, 12:35 PM
damn redlights.. i say we file a lawsuit

ABRAXAAS
2003-03-07, 01:08 PM
good article

Unregistered
2003-03-07, 01:17 PM
So if this "Blood for Oil" argument was in reguard to the last "Blood for Oil" war in 1991 why don't we have the Oil?

That right, because it's not about Oil. Hippies are stupid drop outs that don't know there head from a hole in the ground. Try and use your brains people.

Mtx
2003-03-07, 01:40 PM
I'm all for a oil war. I say we take the entire Middle East. It would cost us some troops but it would be well worth it. This saving people shit always sucks. We never really get much out of it and everyone expects us to save their ass next.

Now if you'll excuse me my copy of SOCOM and network adapter are waiting for me to pick them up. No more renting!

:clap:

Unregistered
2003-03-07, 01:42 PM
I'm all for war for oil too.

War for something anyway. I'd certianly like to get more then shit on by the rest of the world every time we go out and save some piss ant countries ass.

Lexington_Steele
2003-03-07, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I'm all for war for oil too.

War for something anyway. I'd certianly like to get more then shit on by the rest of the world every time we go out and save some piss ant countries ass.

So why do we go out and save piss ant countries? Why are we selective with the pissant countries that we go to help?

*hint* It is because we are looking to get something out of it.

Why do we get shit on? Why do other countries hate us so if all we are doing is helping?

*hint* It is because we usually get something out of it.

It seems very simple to me. All the major international players who are staunchly for war with Iraq stand to gain major oil deals. All the major international players who are against a war with Iraq stand to lose major oil deals. This is a fact, not speculation.

Everyone in the world is looking after their economic interests. Why is it so hard to believe that the US is doing the same.

Confectrix
2003-03-07, 05:33 PM
Lex

Sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me. Making the "facts" more than they are is quite dangerous.

Airlift
2003-03-07, 06:34 PM
It's not about the oil itself. It is about selling the equipment to rebuild the demolished infrastructure of an oil-rich nation. At least, that was what it was about for Dick Cheney's company (along with a shit-ton of other large American and international corps).

Write it off as a conspiracy theory if you want, but no one even denies that two wholly-owned European subsidiaries of Halliburton made billions rebuilding Iraq after we turned them into a parking lot last time.

Did you know that the UN's Oil for Food program includes such foodstuffs as Telecommunications equipment and Oil Industry supplies and spare parts?

Did you know also that last summer, the program was extended to include less perishable foods, like construction, industry, labour and social affairs, Board of Youth and Sports, information, culture, religious affairs, justice, finance, and the Central Bank of Iraq.

For those of you wasting time thinking about conspiracy theories, let me just sum it all up for you real quick: Everyone is eeeeevil.

As one last note, WTF is anyone doing giving money to help support Iraqi Justice? Maybe it's because we get really good prices under the oil for food deal...

Confectrix
2003-03-07, 06:39 PM
Every oil company in the world wil have an equal oppourtunity for the reconstruction of Iraq's oil industry. America's policy reflects this. To say otherwise is based on your own notions; not the offical standing of the United States government.

Who will decide the contracts? The Iraqi people once proper order is restored. When will this be? Any guess is as good as mine. But rest assured; Iraq will be paying for most of its own reconstruction.

America has stated that much.

Airlift
2003-03-07, 06:42 PM
I'm not saying what will happen after this war, I'm stating what did happen after the last one. I don't waste my time harboring notions about what the oil barons are going to do next, I find amusement enough seeing what they've already done.

Confectrix
2003-03-07, 06:43 PM
I believe this thread was taking the past and applying it to the future.

Airlift
2003-03-07, 11:31 PM
I won't say that They will be back up to their old tricks after this war, because they don't plan to wait that long: http://www.forbes.com/home_europe/newswire/2003/03/06/rtr900049.html

Damn those Forbes Conspiracy Theorists. :D

Bighoss
2003-03-07, 11:53 PM
I wouldn't say this is just a war for oil. Oil is just one of the major benefeits to this war.

But honestly wouldn't it be easier just to give researchers who want to develop hydrogen fuel like 10 billion a year. Honestly we would have it in like 2-3 years max. Save some lives, some people loose some jobs companies go out of business BUT... some people get jobs new companies are made and... wait a minute that would make us energy dependent. We could watch the Arab worlds economy melt seeing the only people buying oil are the plastic companies. It saves time and gets us out of a stupid position.