Running People over

[protocol_alpha]

Can u run people over...i dont recall this question being asked so please piont me in the right direction:D

[simba]

I belive u can do that but they didnt knew if u would get BEPS 4 doin that, hope so or it will suck.

[Moleculor]

Yes you can. I hope it's not as easy as, say, Halo though.

[protocol_alpha]

Halo was fun running ppl over especially with a 'LAN Party" Kit rofl

16 players running reachother over rofl:rofl: :clap: :dance: :cheers:

[PR24]

Originally posted by simba
I belive u can do that but they didnt knew if u would get BEPS 4 doin that, hope so or it will suck.

I hope the hell not. There are already too many llama's in T2 that just ram/run people over which is increadably lame.

You want to run people over make a bumper car game or something :lol:

[Camping Carl]

I remeber a dev saying that you could run somebody over in a basilisk, but it would damage the basilisk. Tho I somehow can't see a tank or even a buggy being so much as scratched by running over someone, so the basilisk may be the only one.

[TimberWolf2K]

Originally posted by PR24
I hope the hell not. There are already too many llama's in T2 that just ram/run people over which is increadably lame.

You want to run people over make a bumper car game or something :lol:

I couldnt agree with you more, this isnt tribes, there are no Jetpacks that let you move out of the way of a tank lamer.

Running someone over in a Buggy should do some real damage to it. Anything higher than agil armor (reinforced/MAX) should cause 50% or higher damage to a buggy.

Tanks. maybe only Maxes would damage them.

this isnt GTA.

Running people over for BEP = Teh Suck

[simba]

what happends when U kill someone? HE dies, do U get beps for killing him? NO? thats weird since u seem to get beps for killing peps.
So if u dont want to get beps, RUN OVER PEOPLE! if u want to get beps, do anything to miss the person in ur way, or u wont get any beps, so if u want to get beps, GET OUT OF UR CAR AND KILL HIM with ur weapons!
thats sick

[Kyonye]

this question has been asked more than enough but you are new. yes you can run people over. thats my way of having fun.

[simba]

yes thats a way of having fun, but sinec u dont get any beps you will have to find another way to have fun with if u want to get some beps thnat is

[Hamma]

Short answer: Yes

[NapalmEnima]

Where did this "no BEP" idea come from? You kill them, you get BEP.

And I LOVE flattening people in my beowulf in T2. FEAR THE FENDER.

The problem with running people over in buggies is the exposed cockpit. If they decide to take the hit, they'll probably be able to put a couple rounds directly into the pilot before they're hit.

MBTs probably wont be fast enough to make good ramming vehicles.

That leaves the Lightening. Oh the fender-spankin fun I'm going to have in a Lightening.

I'm guessing smacking a MAX is going to suck in anything lighter than the Lightening, particularly with the whole "open cockpit" thing going on. Trying to run down an anit-infantry MAX in a buggy might just be a quick way to get killed.

The Deliverer APC might be fast enough to make a decent ramming vehicle, but I doubt the Sunderer will.


But all these vehicles are armed. There's a fair chance that you'll be dead before the fender and your buttocks are ever formally introduced. In the beowulf, it was often difficult to find a gunner, at least a GOOD one. That won't be an issue with the Lightening.

I'm gonna love that li'l tank.

[DarkTide]

Running people over has some very useful tactics. If you wanna take down a whole squad, drive right through them ;)

Now, this raises another issue, can you 'graze' people with flying vehicles?

*hits a MAX with his Galaxy* "woops" =X

[PR24]

People still don't seem to understand that running people over is about as lame as it gets. Once in awhile yes that fine but you get a load of people with nothing better to do then only try to run others over.

It's lame and you only ruin the game for others by acting like a total newb.

[Hamma]

I was king of shrike rundowns :brow:

[Daedalus]

Ah,yes,running people down with vehicles...how splatty
I don't recall the devs saying anything about the run-people-over-with-your-vehicle-like-a-total-newb thing except that you take damage when you hit them.

[SVoyager]

personally i dont mind the run over stuff. First they are usualy good targets for your weapons and also if your wise you can use terrain to your advantage.

In tribes2 i was running people over with my shrike. Simple reason. You see a big dot over a hill looking around.... its kinda like waving a sign saying "run me over please"..... If you dont wanna get run over, try to stay near trees for example, try to use canyons, find terrain objects to cover you. Its like any other situation out there. example, there is a l33t sniper out there trying to shoot you. Well you make your way to him using cover to prevent him to shoot you, so you can get close enough and make his sniper rifle useless and kill him.

Those that can still run you over (with planes) in these situations then i dont call that noob anymore but skilled and i respect that.

Altho ground ramming is another story, kinda much more easyer so my point here doesnt apply to ground stuff, but as for air stuff i think its fair enough to give them full credit in anything, you just had to be careful, like in any other situation.

Feel free to comment.
.02$

[NapalmEnima]

People still don't seem to understand that running people over is about as lame as it gets. Once in awhile yes that fine but you get a load of people with nothing better to do then only try to run others over.

I see ramming as a perfectly valid tactic, both as a rammer, and as street-pizza.

If I'm on foot, out in the open, vehicles are going to kick my butt. Period. Fender, shell, beam, whatever. I'm toast. Ramming is just another weapon.

Is it "n00b" to blow the snot out of some infantry with a 150mm cannon? Any idiot can spray enough 20mm slugs in your general direction to kill you... is that "n00b".

This reminds me of when someone bitches at you for using a cheesy weapon every time you kill them, no matter which weapon you choose. "Shock-ball combo's are cheesy! Chaingun spray-n-pray takes no skillz! Rocket launchers are for wussies! I JUST SUCK!"

I'm not saying you're one of those people, but this does have that kind of 'smell' to it.

I'd be happy to hear some reasoning behind the whole "ram == noob" thing... All I've got to go on right now is a blanket statement you've made.


In T2, not being rammed was a skill, just as ramming was. It was SO satisfying to trick a beowulf into smashing into a cliff, or roll over in a ravine, or watch some shrike smack into a tree. It was equally satisfying to tease some light into trying to hop into the gunner seat. He hops, I back up, jet forward, SPLAT. Smearing a heavy that was forced to come down to ground level because all his missles hit the tree you're hiding behind was FUN. Just as fun as watching that beowulf blow sky high when you and a couple other defenders cram a dozen missiles up it's corn hole.

[Streamline]

If hit deer with your car it'll for sure fukup your car. I think the same should be true here and in T2. Rewarding these **** with BEP only encourages it. Thus, taking away from the rest of the game. Impacting will no doubt be in the game. But rewards for such cowardice? Bah! quit looking for a replacement for skills.

[NapalmEnima]

Originally posted by Stream|ine
Impacting will no doubt be in the game. But rewards for such cowardice? Bah! quit looking for a replacement for skills.

Cowardice? Superior tactics! If I can catch you out in the open on foot, and I'm in a lightening, YOU SCREWED UP. And you're going to die. Messily. You might get mowed down by the chaingun, or blasted to kibble with the cannon, or you just might end up as a red jell stuck between the tread plates... but you're definitely toast.

I've got an appropriate weapon for the situation we're in, you don't. You loose. If we're indoors, and you're in a MAX, and I'm in standard with a supressor, same deal. I fail to see the difference.

In the unreals and quakes, things are a pretty even playing field. It's a contest of skill. THIS IS NOT. Combined arms, tactics, organization. 1337 5|(i115 certianly help, but they're only a single component of a larger system.

Hypothetical situation that'll probably happen sooner or later: Some cloaker steps out of a drop pod to see the barrel of a Mag-rider pointed at his spleen. Is it cowardice for the gunner to pull the trigger instead of getting out and taking the guy down one on one? NO. It'd be stupid NOT TOO.

And it would be stupid not to use every weapon available to you to kill the enemy. It's WAR for cryin' out loud. Fender = weapon, so kill people with it.

I still have yet to see an argument about WHY ramming is bad.

[EarlyDawn]

"Use ze bumper, that's what it's there for"

Name the movie and character :-)

[Alias]

there are no Jetpacks that let you move out of the way of a tank lamer.

There aren't? ....
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[Destroyeron]

Originally posted by Stream|ine
If hit deer with your car it'll for sure fukup your car. I think the same should be true here and in T2. Rewarding these **** with BEP only encourages it. Thus, taking away from the rest of the game. Impacting will no doubt be in the game. But rewards for such cowardice? Bah! quit looking for a replacement for skills.


Hmm..about fucking up your car (which you spelt fuck wrong btw) its a CAR. HELLO! these are WAR machines! not fricking 'Honey I'll be right back, gotta get a loaf of bread!' cars!!!


Be Prepared to eat my bumper.

[FraBaktos]

I think the ability to run people over is fine if it damages the car a bit. And do you guys seriously think that making it so you get no BEPs is going to discourage people from running others over? Do you think just because he isnt gonna get BEPs hes gonna stop? I don't think that will help too much. Also, if you have a rocket launcher and a guy comes to run you over.... hes toast.

[Moleculor]

Originally posted by Destroyeron
Hmm..about fucking up your car (which you spelt fuck wrong btw) its a CAR. HELLO! these are WAR machines! not fricking 'Honey I'll be right back, gotta get a loaf of bread!' cars!!!


Be Prepared to eat my bumper.

Uh, yeah, but hello, these ain't deer. They're people in near 30th century armor.

[Nightmare]

I have to agree with the people who think it is legit to run people over. You shouldn't be walking around in an open area all alone. You are practically asking to be killed, unless you have a decimator on your back, then your just setting up a trap for an unsuspecting buggy driver. So, be smart and drive around so you don't have to worry about be run over. Travel in groups, of if you're alone, have a rocket launcher handy. Just be prepared, because this IS war, and all is fair.

[NapalmEnima]

As far as impact damage goes, I think we can draw a fair parallel between modern infantry armor, and a modern light vehicle.

Modern infantry: Kevlar helmet & vest
Modern light vehicle: Hummer.

Hummer: Dented fender.
Guy in kevlar: Street pizza.

And that's not even getting into APCs and tanks, that I would think wouldn't be affected at all.



Ramming = good for drivers, bad for pedestrians.

I would expect a buggy not to fair too well if they repeatedly ram MAXes, but other than that, no worries.

But if I'm in a MAX, and a buggies bearing down on me, you can bet I'll try to kill the driver. And if I'm in an anti-inf MAX, I think I'll have better than even odds of pulling it off.

[LiquidThunder]

:vsrocks:

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but thanks to the greif system, if you get to greif level 3 your vehicle can only go at 10% thrust, so you can't run ppl over with it, hhe

-LT

[1024]

I read all these posts about how,

"If you're in the middle of nowhere by yourself without a vehicle or a rocket launcher, and I come in in a harasser, YOU'RE DEAD, thats your fault!"

Well, i was thinking, what if you go with a samll squad of soldiers, say somewhere around 4 poeple on a "covert" mission in a single dropship,whihc you are piloting, but you run into a reaver whihc easily places a rocket in the dropship's face, makign it a flaming ball of fire(hahah flaming ball of fire). So you eject right before the missle hits and you are alone in the middle of the map with agile/standard armor with a rifle and pistol. What do you do then when a jeep comes up and wacks you?

[LiquidThunder]

Originally posted by Spnsr2
I read all these posts about how,

"If you're in the middle of nowhere by yourself without a vehicle or a rocket launcher, and I come in in a harasser, YOU'RE DEAD, thats your fault!"

Well, i was thinking, what if you go with a samll squad of soldiers, say somewhere around 4 poeple on a "covert" mission in a single dropship,whihc you are piloting, but you run into a reaver whihc easily places a rocket in the dropship's face, makign it a flaming ball of fire(hahah flaming ball of fire). So you eject right before the missle hits and you are alone in the middle of the map with agile/standard armor with a rifle and pistol. What do you do then when a jeep comes up and wacks you?




A jeep whacking you wouldn't even be an issue man. You think the reaver that nailed you in the first place is just gonna let you run away free? MUWAHAHAH

-LT

[Camping Carl]

Hide behind a cactus. Then hope the reaver thinks you're dead. :D

[1024]

Good point about the reaver.

Wait, form what i've read the grief system only comes into affect when you do something to your own empire....or do i have it wrong

[Camping Carl]

Just your empire, getting grief points for killing enimies would be crazy! :lol:

[TheGreatCarbini]

OK for people who don't like the ramming... alright... what wpuld you rather have happen? Just have the enemy slide forward on your bumper? Or maybey if you run into anyone your car is instantly engulfed in flames? Come on people! lol like napalm said, this is a war and your fender is a weapon. You can even see screenshots of this in game. A kill shows the killers name, a pic of a wepaon, and the victim. Well in lots of screenshots you see a killer, thena picture of a harraser, then a victim. It may be just for the side gun, but I bet if you run someone down your gonna get the same image. And you car does take damage for doin this, can't find the actual quote but I remeber that your vehical would take a bit of damage for runnin people down.

Agile - Reinforced may be tough but not tougher than 40-50 MPH of metal comin at them.

Although I am wondering, what happens if you crash a harraser into a deployed terran max. BRING IT JEEP BOY!

[Streamline]

I'm not against ramming. But, the typical "impactor" does nothing but seekout things to impact. (without fear of retribution) Should not be rewarded with cake and icecream. A true impact has many different effects depending on the size of the object struck. If you're wearing MAX armor and are struck by a Harasser. There should be very serious damage delt to both. I know impacting will be in the game. Thats not the issue. The issue is what you get for it. You may very well have no alternative but to run someone down. But the way i see it. PPL looking for an occupation as an "impactor". Maybe shouldn't get rewarded for this as greatly as if they did something... oh i dunno... more useful?

What would i do in a situation where i'm stranded? In standard armor? With impactor in route and i know im hosed? Throw all my shit everywhere/ drop mine/ suicide/ respawn. I just won't give you the fuckin satisfaction. Get a real job.

[Destroyeron]

I'd run yah over before you drop that first mine.