Poll:Logitech, Steel Series or Razor?

[Skitrel]

Based on this tweet:

http://twitter.com/#!/mhigby/status/181107319852113921


Any mouse maniacs have a preference between Logitech, Steel Series or Razor?

Now, to me, it's blatantly Logitech.

[NCLynx]

Logitech G5. Love this thing.

[Johari]

Logitech hands down for me.

Still using my years old MX518. Only within the past month or two has the scroll wheel sensor started to act up and sometimes the laser get a little funky. Years of reliable performance, ergonomics, and cost.

Will buy another Logitech once this one conks out.

[RNFB]

Logitech. Never tried Steel, don't really like the looks of them, and I've had bad experience with Razer keyboards(I don't even understand how you can mess one up so bad that it constantly opens up your media player) so I do not even want to try their mice.

The G500 is really great, though I'm not too fond of the thumb wrest (I can't hold it without it digging into my thumb, because I like my thumb and pinky to rest on the mousepad for maximum control because I prefer low movement and high sensitivity)

I've been trying to find something on the lines of a G500 but with a better thumb rest.

Also I would totally pay upwards of $200 each for a Vanu Sovereignty themed mouse(+pad) and keyboard with the following specifications:

Mouse:
Copy the G500 but with a flat thumb rest (so it doesn't leave indents in my thumb)

Keyboard:
Rubber dome, fairly slim, rubber-coated keys, all purple with teal backlighting, long rubber palm/wrist rest

[Zulthus]

I have a Razer Deathadder, and the thing works perfectly for me. Not sure how long I've had it now, probably a year and a half. It's very responsive and the buttons on the side are a plus. I've used all three and I couldn't care less which brand I use though, they're all mice and they all work fine.

[Malorn]

Logitech.

Had too many razor mice die on me after 6-8 months of use. Logitech goes strong for years. Quality products.

[Really]

Had a Logitech something-or-other for about 8 years before it died on me, now I've got a Razer Mamba cause going from wireless to wired in 2 seconds makes me happy.

[Rbstr]

The Logitech MX500: the wired, ergonomic, good number of buttons, high accuracy mouse.
Whatever the heck it's called these days.

I've had an MX500, an MX510 and I think what I have now is a G5...it's rubbed off. That's ~10 years of gaming...3 years or so seems a reasonable mouse lifetime.

I don't bother with fancy keyboards. I've had this Microsoft media keyboard for as long as I can remember.

[Lokster]

Razer mice are the boss. I've used my Razer Lachesis for several years now and it's just as perfect now as it was the day I first plugged it in.

On the flip side, Razer keyboards are terrible. The keyboard I bought with the mouse stopped working correctly within 6 months. Like an idiot I bought another Razer keyboard and it, to stopped functioning within 6 months. Been rocking my Microsoft Sidewinder x4 for some time now and I love it ...

[Synapses]

Logitech G9X for me. Best mouse I have ever had. Along with all my other Logi stuff, I have all there top notch gaming stuff. G9X Mouse, G19 LCD Keyboard, and G35 surround sound 7.1 headset. Its a pretty awesome set up. Got all my LED colors changed to match blue and yellow. =)

My reason for this is, I have had all the other brands and they only last around 6 months before breaking or something going wrong with them. I have had Logitech and Saitek stuff for YEARS. (my last keyboard I had since around the time PS1 came out and just got rid of it finally, but it sitll works.

You just cant go wrong with Logitech. Yeah I like the way Razor stuff feels in my hand but there just is no durability there... it all wears out way to fast. I have replaced 2 razor mice in the year, both of which cost me around $150... this G9X is holding solid and only cost me 75.

[NivexQ]

Between the 3, my choice is Logitech. But I just got myself a Corsair M60, and I actually like it better than the G5 that I had been using for years. Corsair is expanding into a lot of different markets, and they're really outdoing the competition. It's great.

[Shade Millith]

I've got a Logitech MX518. Been the best mouse I've ever had.

[Kran De Loy]

Sorry double post, could have sworn I hit edit..

[Kran De Loy]

Steelseries are decent, but they have nothing on Logitech's reliability and Razor is just complete trash now.

And yes I have personal experience with all three brands over the last 3 years.
My brother has a Steelseries that after 4 years it literally shocking him when he uses it because the plastic where he rests his palm is completely worn through like his sweat is caustic or something to it. He's currently got electric tape on it until he gets back to the US in another 2 months.

I had a Razor 3 years ago that lasted 2 months before it started bugging out of me, RMD's it three times each one lasting only 1-2 months. Eventually I just gave up and threw it in the trash.

And bought a Microsoft Sidewinder x8 which lasted about 17 months or so before my laptop would begin to stop detecting it for no reason whatsoever. Sometimes in the middle of a game.

My mother is an avid WoW player and has been using a Logitech G5 for the last 5 years and it's still got that crisp click sound when she uses it. I am also using a Logitech G500 now and it's far more comfortable than the previous mice I've used.


Edit again: I see that a decent number of people are voting Razor, but I have read scores of reveiws for the various Razor products and outside of my own experience it's all very hit or miss. Some people get a Copperhead that lasts them 3-5 years. While others complain they had to replace theirs at least once as many or as 3 or 4 times until they got one that lasted more than 1 year.
You don't hear that about Logitech.

[Dreamcast]

Microsoft...doesnt die.

[CrystalViolet]

voted before I read the actual tweet, but I use a G9X (second one I've owned). LED's are set to purple.

[Conq]

Razer. I'm not attached to the brand but noone else has bought anything to the market that surpasses the Naga. It burns out fast (on my third atm) but once you gain a little muscle memory on the buttons, it's an amazing tool.

I couldn't live without it for gaming or graphic design and I was able to get rid of a num pad entirely so my posture at the computer is more healthy.

Can't say enough about it.

[Vancha]

I'm quickly starting to think the Naga is the only thing Razer's got going for it...

I'm wondering why things like the Corsair M60, Mionix Naos 5000 and Roccat Kone are off the table? The Cyborg R.A.T. series and CM Spawn seem to have fairly large fanbases, too.

Edit: I'd actually like to change my vote to Steelseries. Logitech are boring.

[Algo]

I've had a mionix naos 5000 for a few weeks and i'm loving it, tho the g5 is the most comfortable mouse i ever had in my hand (big hand)

[SKYeXile]

logitech and razor products are for those who have not used steel series.

[Monkey]

voted before I read the actual tweet, but I use a G9X (second one I've owned). LED's are set to purple.

I also have a G9X, what you think? I had MX before and while I liked the extra scroll wheel on the side (for extra buttons to use in game, expecially when I used to play MMOs) the G9X is much comfier. I use a fairly heavy weight and a fairly high DPI as I use my fingers to move the mouse rather than my wrist.

[Vancha]

logitech and razor products are for those who have not used steel series.
This also. Despite their Shift/Zboard keyboards and their prostitution to various brands, I get the feeling their mice deserve a larger reputation than they've got.

[Coreldan]

I use Razer myself, but I wont vote on the poll cos it would be stupid cos I havnt used any modern Logitech stuff and Steel Series never.

When I was buying a new mouse I did a lot of research on all three brands and some others too. It basically came down to that prices were same for all, each had some occasional type/model flaws to them etc, so I just went with what I think looked the best and fit the rest of the my gadgets, so I bought Razer :D

[NewSith]

MS Sidewinder X8.

[Canaris]

Logitech here too!

[waldizzo]

still rocking the logitech mx518. have had it for a long long time.

[bjorntju1]

Got a Razer Mamba. Expensive. But it is a great mouse. I am never going wired again.

[ThGlump]

Have logitech mx518 for over than 6 years, and it still hold. Dont want any other.

[FastAndFree]

Logitech hands down for me.

Still using my years old MX518. Only within the past month or two has the scroll wheel sensor started to act up and sometimes the laser get a little funky. Years of reliable performance, ergonomics, and cost.

Will buy another Logitech once this one conks out.

I have been using an MX518 for several years now too, only problem I ever had with it was also with the wheel, but taking it apart revealed that the notches inside the wheel simply got clogged by dirt bocking the sensor - cleaning it fixed the problem completely. You should try it

[Coreldan]

I have been using an MX518 for several years now too, only problem I ever had with it was also with the wheel, but taking it apart revealed that the notches inside the wheel simply got clogged by dirt bocking the sensor - cleaning it fixed the problem completely. You should try it

I used MX518 for 2 years or so. Got one with my ASUS gaming laptop. The ASUS pimped coating flaked off fairly early though and the mouse looked fairly disgusting for a long time :D One of the best mouses performance/price ratio though. However a "proper new" gaming mouse is still noticeably better anyways.

Btw, I saw you laying CE in Planetside just 15 mins ago! :D

[Crator]

I've used a Razor before. Meh, didn't like it so much. I really like my current Logitech G700.

[FastAndFree]

I used MX518 for 2 years or so. Got one with my ASUS gaming laptop. The ASUS pimped coating flaked off fairly early though and the mouse looked fairly disgusting for a long time :D One of the best mouses performance/price ratio though. However a "proper new" gaming mouse is still noticeably better anyways.

Heh the outer layer on the sides flakes like mad on mine too but I'm not concerned by superficial wear and tear

I think about the only problem with the MX518 is that those strange black spots along the center make it look like it was brutalized with a hammer :rofl: (I have the dark grey one)

http://www.everythingusb.com/images/list/mx518evolution.jpg

I have been looking at the newer logitech mice in case it ever dies on me but couldn't find one that has buttons both in front of and behind the wheel, I use both of those in PS and would hate to have to learn a new layout

Btw, I saw you laying CE in Planetside just 15 mins ago! :D

I logged on basically just for that, how sad is that

[TacosWLove]

Microsoft...doesnt die.

This and the sidewinder series is by far my favorite, best form factor, last forever...

[Coreldan]

I logged on basically just for that, how sad is that

It's nice cos I'm no 10 year vet, so it's really cool to see familiar names I recognize from forums in game :D

[Fenrys]

Logitech.

The G500 is durable, comfortable, and the button layout is perfect. I switched to it after using an MX518, and the DPI adjustment buttons on the G500 are much easier to use in comparison.

Never used Steel Series - the button placement looks inferior to the G500. Same goes for the R.A.T. They may be good mice, but G500 has thumb buttons and DPI adjustment located where they are not likely to get you killed if you try to use them during a firefight.

I bought a razer copperhead about 5 years ago. It broke after a month, and their customer service would not replace or refund it. I'll never buy another cheaply made piece of shit from Razer.

[Azren]

Had my razer diamondback for like ten years now, guess what I voted.

[Kran De Loy]

Like I said, Razor is really hit or miss. Out of the 8 people I know that have or had one 2 of them say they have really awesome experiences with them and they'd keep buying razor in the future. Other 6 had problems with the mice bugging out after an average of 1 year.

The problem I had with mine was that the mouse cursor would suddenly only move from the bottom left of the screen to the top right. Unplug/replug in. Switch USB ports. Uninstall reinstall drivers. Reboot game I was playing when it happened. Often times the problem would persist through every thing including a full reboot of my PC. I even reformatted my PC because I ruled out everything else and thought it could have been a really annoying virus. That didn't stop it from happening either.

When even that didn't fix the issue from showing up randomly I slammed my Razor mouse against my table as hard as I could. Raged.

That fixed it. Physically abusing the mouse was not just the only fix, but a reliable one too. It fixed it every time. Wth, Razor. What. the. hell.

Finally when it began happening every 10-20 minutes instead of once every few hours, I RMD'd it (little more than 2 months after I bought it) and the same issue started happening again after 1 month. RMD'd that one. Seven weeks later RMD'd it AGAIN...

That one I slammed onto my table one too many times and literally shattered the outer casing and snapped off the right mouse button. (cut my knuckles up some, too)

Threw it in the trash at that point.

Edit: Logitech? Logitech gets stories of people complaining about the decals peeling off.

[Redshift]

i have a logi g700 because i like buttons

[Eighm]

My vote would be for Microsoft if it was there. I've had a Sidewinder x5 for a year and a half and it still works great. I recently got a Naga for $30 at Essex though so I've been using that. It's alright, and with the stories I've heard about Razer stuff I'm sure I'll be back to the Sidewinder in a few months.

[MgFalcon]

So far I have this. (http://cyborggaming.com/prod/rat7.htm)

It's been working out well for me, but before that I had a razor (miss it but happy with my new one!)... Logitech was never stylish enough for me - they all look EXTREMELY bland!

I've looks vaugely into steelseries but I would not recoment them unless you're getting a headset... best audio I've ever heard came from my Icemat Siberia (former name of Steelseries) and lasted me 4-5 year before i gave it to my brother - now I have their Diablo 3 themed one :D

[Graywolves]

I use logitech mouse and razer headset.

[Vancha]

I've looks vaugely into steelseries but I would not recoment them unless you're getting a headset... best audio I've ever heard came from my Icemat Siberia (former name of Steelseries) and lasted me 4-5 year before i gave it to my brother - now I have their Diablo 3 themed one :D
:bang:

[Skitrel]

In terms of form and perfect mouse the g500 and the g5 are by far the best mice Logitech have ever made. The mx range are great and they work very well but the size, shape, hefty weight and build of the g series is absolutely unbeatable.

Having owned g5, g500, g700, mx518 and a deathadder that fell to bits in less than a year. The razor wasn't a bad mouse, it just didn't last anywhere near as long as anything else. I'd probably say the g500 is the best one they've ever made, having had it for well over 18 months it's a bruiser, never goes wrong and hasn't got a scratch on it, I can't see it ever breaking and it's absolutely reliable.

So, I'll second the earlier guy, if there's going to be a PS2 mouse, copy the g500, it's perfect.

Razor mice are just gimmicky that entice people into buying by being shiny and ridiculous. They're kind of like sports cars, except they break.

[Vancha]

Razer were better in the days of the Boomslang, Copperhead, Krait and Diamondback, when everything had those silly coloured strips down the sides.

After that, they seemed to turn into the new Alienware, going from products that were "for gamers, by gamers", to products that were "for adolescents, by marketing".

[Skitrel]

After that, they seemed to turn into the new Alienware, going from products that were "for gamers, by gamers", to products that were "for adolescents, by marketing".

This is the best description of what razor are today.

[Mastachief]

I prefer my rat 9 for now

[RNFB]

I tried the R.A.T 7 once... it was awful. Cramped my hands easily, not comfortable. The material was slippery. Screws for adjusting the parts were right where your thumb and pinky rest. Not balanced, tips easily and catches on the mousepad. The way it's shaped severely limits the possible ways you could hold it, as there are many areas on the mice that are "naked".

A good mouse should be comfortable in anyone's hands, but it seems to me that only a specific selection of people could find that thing comfortable, and for as long as the hold it in a very specific way.

[Mastachief]

This has a vast array of adjustments and now fits my hand perfectly. Moves like liquid pefectly balanced with the sensitivity switches i need for moving between work - browsing - gaming. Also it is not just the mouse that matters the pad you use can make or break a mouse experience. No single mouse can fit all people.

I have in my draw

Deathadder classic 3500
Microsoft habu
Logitech g5

None of which i was ever comfortable with.

My original mx1000 from back around the beginning of planetside was perfect as was my logitech trackball i used at release.

A mouse is a very personal thing when you use it 12hours a day.

[Azren]

This is a Razer:
http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=367&stc=1&d=1332099341

This is a razor:
http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=368&stc=1&d=1332099341


Get your brand names straight...

[Vancha]

A mouse is a very personal thing when you use it 12hours a day.
This is it. Beyond a certain point it's no longer a case of what's better or worse, but what closer fits the individual.

[Zulthus]

To everyone saying Razer is cheap and falls into pieces before the one year mark - do you slam it on the desk multiple times when you rage? What do you do to break it so fast? I know for a fact that Razer is higher quality than a HP mouse that comes with a computer bought in '02... and that HP mouse lasted me 7 years. Mice don't fall apart on their own.

[Sighpolice]

Got me a deathadder respawn, piranah headset and arcosta keyboard..

Nothing has broken, had them all for over a year now, and before the deathadder my diamondback's mouse wheel broke off when my friend used it, it was 3 years old and perfect :( but they didn't do diamondbacks when I went to get a new one.. had to go with the respawn instead

As for people saying they break, they really don't.. Treat it correctly and it will treat you correctly ;)

voted Razer

[Coreldan]

My Razer Imperator is a bit over 1 year old now. No problems with that. 1 year ain't much though, but still :D

[Tasorin]

Logitech Keyboard and high dpi gaming mouse. Keyboard M-keys and multi-button mouse for the micro games, like reloading, quick healing, and engineering.

[Conq]

To everyone saying Razer is cheap and falls into pieces before the one year mark - do you slam it on the desk multiple times when you rage? What do you do to break it so fast? I know for a fact that Razer is higher quality than a HP mouse that comes with a computer bought in '02... and that HP mouse lasted me 7 years. Mice don't fall apart on their own.

*shrug*

Some of their products are cheaply made. My wife and I both use Nagas and in 2 years we've gone though 4 of them. After the second we got smart and bought the insurance though BestBuy. It's always the same problems, they start double clicking on single taps or the laser sensitivity goes haywire and it feels like you're using it on carpet instead of a mouse pad.

It's the design that keeps me coming back for more, certainly NOT the quality.

[Skitrel]

This is a Razer

Ack, you're absolutely right. Bad error. Apologies.

Get your brand names straight...

Oh wait, let me take that apology back. There's zero need be like that about it.

[SurgeonX]

After the onset of a minor bit of RSI a few years ago, then for me it's none of those.
Instead it's this crazy thing :D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Oj%2BIxzosL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[Alduron]

I had a few different wireless mice, but I finally decided to go back to a wired G500 and it was the best decision I've ever made. I also have the G19, and the G13(mainly for MMOs and high-macro games).

Oh, I've also had amazing Logitech speakers for something like 7 years. Best speakers I've owned.

[CrystalViolet]

I also have a G9X, what you think? I had MX before and while I liked the extra scroll wheel on the side (for extra buttons to use in game, expecially when I used to play MMOs) the G9X is much comfier. I use a fairly heavy weight and a fairly high DPI as I use my fingers to move the mouse rather than my wrist.

never used the MX, but I love the G9X's versatility. The on board profiles are awesome for switching between games and applications without having to mess around with too many settings. I also move with my fingers, and keep mine weighted so that when I lift the mouse with 2 fingers it doesn't tilt or jerk.

[Vancha]

I know for a fact that Razer is higher quality than a HP mouse that comes with a computer bought in '02...
How?

I mean, you're probably right. There's a chance that the added complexity of a gaming mouse gives it a higher chance of going wrong and thus the breakages, but I'm just curious how you know that for a fact.

[Zhane]

I used to be a Logitech guy, but then I tried a Razer mouse. Now I have two Razer mice, a Razer keyboard (mechanical ftw) and a Razer side keypad.

So... Razer.

[Zulthus]

How?

I mean, you're probably right. There's a chance that the added complexity of a gaming mouse gives it a higher chance of going wrong and thus the breakages, but I'm just curious how you know that for a fact.

Because the HP mouse was made of extremely cheap plastic, the mousewheel felt like a water bottle cap, and it had like 500 DPI. I just don't go throwing it at walls and squeezing it like toothpaste, that's why it lasted so long. My Razer Deathadder is much better quality than my old one, and I'll be sure to make this one last as well.

[RNFB]

After the onset of a minor bit of RSI a few years ago, then for me it's none of those.
Instead it's this crazy thing :D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Oj%2BIxzosL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Woah!

I'm sure they have them for right handed people... what's the DPI? Costly? Seems like it would be really fun to try one of those!

[Luperza]

Corsair M90. *Nom nom*

[duomaxwl]

I have a Logitech g500 and I love it. It goes well with the g930 headset and the $12 Logitech k120 from Wal-Mart.

[SniperSteve]

Logitech MX518 - It has the best feel for me.

[Lonehunter]

Corsair M90. *Nom nom*
15 buttons? How many thumbs do you have?

[Zynastor]

yea, Logitech always works for me, so Logitech it is XP

[Niemand]

I use a Razor WoW: Cata mouse. So many buttons and I can get it to glow different colors. I like blue!

I find it is fun to play shooters with it too, yay customizable macros!

[Ragnafrak]

I use a Razor WoW: Cata mouse. So many buttons and I can get it to glow different colors. I like blue!

I find it is fun to play shooters with it too, yay customizable macros!

Razor made one too? Only one I've seen is from steelseries.

I've got the original 15-button WoW Gaming Mouse and loved it until I poured water all over it and it died. I bought another one thinkin' it'd be the exact same thing, but their 2nd gen. mice used a really crappy metalic finish that rubs off on my hands. After the finish wore off, I had to cover it in electrical tape to keep it from shocking me.

The macro customization is kinda crap - it just turns mouse clicks into keyboard input, and it's not even very fast. What it is good for though, is assigning the extra buttons to random keyboard keystrokes that I would never use and then mappin' those in games the same way you could use the G-keys on a G11/15 logitech keyboard.

Would still buy the newer versions though- haven't seen any issues with them.

More buttons = More fun

[relicuk]

Corsair M90. *Nom nom*

With you all the way on that. Along with the matching headset and keyboard :D

[Ragnafrak]

By the way - I'll never use razor. I think their products are made with sub-standard components.

My brother has gone through 4 razor mice in the last 2 years and has sworn off of them completely.

I spent almost $90 USD on a carcharias headset because it felt good and looked nice. My friends always complained that they could hear my PC sounds over voice chat while we played games together. I spent weeks fiddling with drivers, input plugs, and software settings only to find out that this was a common problem among people with this particular headset. The wiring is so bad, that PC sounds intrude into the microphone and there was just nothin' to do about it. I had to go buy a $5 desktop mic to replace my $90 headset which is now a glorified pair of headphones.

[Vancha]

With you all the way on that. Along with the matching headset and keyboard :D
Who in their right mind makes a mechanical keyboard where half the buttons have rubber domes? I mean seriously.

The mouse? Fine. The headset? If you must. The keyboard? Frack no. The only thing that has going for it is it looks pretty and it took Logitech's volume sliders.

[Vancha]

Because the HP mouse was made of extremely cheap plastic, the mousewheel felt like a water bottle cap, and it had like 500 DPI. I just don't go throwing it at walls and squeezing it like toothpaste, that's why it lasted so long. My Razer Deathadder is much better quality than my old one, and I'll be sure to make this one last as well.
None of those things mean it's more likely to break than the Razer. I mean, I don't think anyone's claiming their Razer's palm rest caved in. It's the laser, the buttons, the wire etc.

[Shogun]

back in the days i bought a razer boomslang for ps1. but it sucked so hard that i played with a standard logitech cordless mouse more often.
and it died soon because it was lacking stability where it was needed most. it was still a ball-mouse and the axes that would hold the ball and take off the movement were so thin, that they bent, rendering the mouse very inaccurate. the replacement i got had this error corrected already and used thicker axes, but the overall ergonomy of the mouse sucked anyway, and you could not rest your fingers on the buttons without accidentally pushing them all the time.

so i never bought razer stuff again.
with logitech i had mostly positive experiences.
every time when there was any issue, the support would send me a brandnew mouse.
but i never had too many issues. one mouse got problems connecting to the loading station after some years, and another one would falsely release a pressed button. i didn´t even have to send in the old mouse. just got a new one.

i just had the problem, that whenever i wanted to buy a new gamermouse, it was at times, logitech had no actual gaming stuff on the shelfs. and when i bought a performance mx, a few days later the latest gaming series came out.now i´m using the mx performance and a g13 pad

[FastAndFree]

Because the HP mouse was made of extremely cheap plastic, the mousewheel felt like a water bottle cap, and it had like 500 DPI. I just don't go throwing it at walls and squeezing it like toothpaste, that's why it lasted so long. My Razer Deathadder is much better quality than my old one, and I'll be sure to make this one last as well.

But see, I drop my MX518 like 3 times a week... And it still works :rolleyes:

[SurgeonX]

Woah!

I'm sure they have them for right handed people... what's the DPI? Costly? Seems like it would be really fun to try one of those!

Aye, you can get them for left or right handers.
The new ones, V4, are around £85/$90 on Amazon.

http://www.evoluent.com/vm4r.htm

It's a bit hidden on the site, so here's the DPI bumf:

It's got 4 DPI settings:
2600, 1800, 1300, and 800.

Even if you don't get any RSI pain, it is worth looking into IMO, it is perfect for gaming, and very comfortable to use.

[Vancha]

Even if you don't get any RSI pain, it is worth looking into IMO, it is perfect for gaming, and very comfortable to use.

Don't you have to move your entire arm? I totally agree with the reasons that they're beneficial, but gaming generally isn't cited as one of them.

I'd also suggest getting something slightly cheaper than the evoluent, if you just want to try an upright mouse. Of course, if $90 is nothing to you, then never mind.

[NewSith]

Wouldn't it be logical to move it to General Gaming Discussion? I mean this poll is about gaming mice...

[Oryon22]

Do the Corsair K series still have key fade or did they fix that?

[Vancha]

Do the Corsair K series still have key fade or did they fix that?

The K90 didn't have it to my knowledge, but they're going to be releasing "fixed" K60s, though I don't think they're out yet.

That said, they'll still be horribly broken as mechanical keyboards. :p

[Quovatis]

I've tried all 3 companies. Razor was the worst by far. Logitech is the best in my experience. Love my G700 mouse.

[FastAndFree]

Some reviews claimed the G700 has accuracy issues in wireless mode, anyone experienced that?

[SurgeonX]

Don't you have to move your entire arm? I totally agree with the reasons that they're beneficial, but gaming generally isn't cited as one of them.

I'd also suggest getting something slightly cheaper than the evoluent, if you just want to try an upright mouse. Of course, if $90 is nothing to you, then never mind.

Nope, just your hand. Same as a normal mouse.

Maybe they're missing a trick then, because for me, that's its main use.

Christ, I wish $90 was nowt.
I've got an 8 week old baby :)
I spent ages researching what to get, and at the time, it was the best choice when facing not gaming at all due to RSI.
It's calmed down loads over the years now though.
I also use a G13 Gameboard which really helps too.

[Ragefighter]

A simple Logitech V450 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104218) Nano 2 button 1 wheel wireless laser mouse!
Also the M505 is pretty much the same mouse (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104332)

cool feature that saves battery life is the mouse basically turns off when you stop moving it, and instantly turns back on when you start moving, NO lag at all and extends the life of the battery a LOT.

battery powered, toss in 2 Energizer Lithium AA batteries and you probably only need to change it every 9-12 months. the M505 claims a 15 month. (well the software says I have 396 days left, I put new non-lithium batteries in last month).

plus it is only about $30 maybe $40 (if anyone gets this mouse make sure it is the good one! They have a budget version that is not as good.

Also great mouse for Laptops so you can buy one mouse and use it at home and while traveling, I bought another one for my laptop case though.

[Ragefighter]

Aye, you can get them for left or right handers.
The new ones, V4, are around £85/$90 on Amazon.

http://www.evoluent.com/vm4r.htm

It's a bit hidden on the site, so here's the DPI bumf:

It's got 4 DPI settings:
2600, 1800, 1300, and 800.

Even if you don't get any RSI pain, it is worth looking into IMO, it is perfect for gaming, and very comfortable to use.

http://www.evoluent.com/VM4-skeletons-sm.jpg

But I spent years molding my arm into that position!

[SurgeonX]

http://www.evoluent.com/VM4-skeletons-sm.jpg

But I spent years molding my arm into that position!

Well, as the fuzzy green thing says, you must unlearn what you have learned :D

[PeteHMB]

Logitech. I've had an MX5xx something for about 10 years now and it's still perfect, buttons are still fairly crisp, etc. I also have the VX nano for my laptop, had it for about 3 or 4 years now, and again - perfect. The VX has survived 2 tours in Iraq despite never being blown out (all the fine powdery sand and whatnot). Not a single complaint.

Tried a Razor once. Didn't like the ergonomics. Never bothered again.

[SKYeXile]

^ This is also coming from someone who used the IM3.0 and WMO religiously for 6 years.

to clarify what mouse are you using now?

[SKYeXile]

Zowie AM

http://static.esportsea.com/market/images/product_images/317.jpg

It's probably not an option if you have really large hands. I'd go for a DA or G400 in that case.

I use a Xai ATM, but i dont feel its as accurate or smooth as my imperiator, unlike the imperiator its reliable and comfortable though.

[Goku]

I use a Xai ATM, but i dont feel its as accurate or smooth as my imperiator, unlike the imperiator its reliable and comfortable though.

My Imperator has been great. Been using it, since the summer of 2010. However my previous Lachesis crapped out on me within 6 months. Copperhead lasted over 5 years before dying.

[SKYeXile]

Imperator uses the Philips Twin Eye PLN 2032 sensor. Apparently it has no prediction and acceleration (according to sensor thread on ESR), which could be why you feel like you're losing accuracy with the Xai. I had a Xai before this, which I got pretty well adjusted to, but I could immediately tell the difference when I switched to the AM (which has the same shape and feel externally).

i immediatly felt the different switching from logitech mice to the imperiator, it kicked the shit out of them IMO in terms of accuracy, but the fucking thing died constantly on me and required me to reset it all the time, like every other razor product iv used, allso its Z axis annoyed the shit outta me.

ill have to see if i can get a hold of a zowie AM, they dont seem to readily available in Australia.

it did take me awhile to get adjusted to the Xai, longer than any mouse, but i still dont feel it was ever as good as the imperiator.

[Zulthus]

Got an e-mail from STO today, they're giving out some Logitech product discount. I don't have any need for the code, but if anyone wants to buy a new mouse or something I can PM it. It's good for two purchases.


This was the message

Perfect World is teaming up with Logitech to offer you some great items at an even greater discount! Get 35% off select Logitech keyboards and mice (G300, G700, G13, G110).

[Traak]

Oh, Razer is trash now? Hm. They used to so rock. Perhaps, like many, they exalted profit over quality and cheaped-out on their designs.

Do the others have left-hand or ambi- mice with nine buttons?

[Zulthus]

Oh, Razer is trash now? Hm. They used to so rock. Perhaps, like many, they exalted profit over quality and cheaped-out on their designs.

Do the others have left-hand or ambi- mice with nine buttons?

Hm, no, that's subjective... I use a Razer Deathadder and it's anything you could want in a mouse. 3500 DPI is more than you'll ever need, it's very responsive and accurate, and it's ergonomic. People just like to jump on the Logitech bandwagon. Nothing wrong with that, of course. I have no experience with Steel series however.

It seems with most people it's hit or miss with Razer... they might get a lemon, or they just like to throw their product at walls and smash it on the desk... who knows...

[Vancha]

Oh, Razer is trash now? Hm. They used to so rock. Perhaps, like many, they exalted profit over quality and cheaped-out on their designs.

Do the others have left-hand or ambi- mice with nine buttons?
One just so happened to come out today, actually.

http://www.leetgion.com/product-eldruin.php

It looks terrible, I'll grant you...But it's a thing.

Can't think of any others.

Looking at Scan's selection, the Kova might, sort of, qualify?

Edit: Also, I'm not sure Razer ever so rocked. They used to be better, certainly, but I think their popularity was in large part due to them being the one of the only ones offering "gamer-style" peripherals, next to the rather more sensible Logitech. Looking at how juvenile gaming peripherals look now though, I'm not sure their success was a good thing at all.