View Full Version : Hard time for Trolling?
Hamma
2012-04-03, 12:07 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5898585/itll-soon-be-illegal-to-troll-in-arizona
:ugh:
Coreldan
2012-04-03, 12:08 PM
While a retarded law, I would probably give my newborn away if it would take away all the trolling away from the internet.
Hamma
2012-04-03, 12:23 PM
Time to ban all IPs from Arizona! :lol:
Crazyduckling
2012-04-03, 05:20 PM
In United States v Thomas, Thomas was prosecuted for transmitting 'obscene' images to someone in Tennessee. Since obscenity (visual and spoken) is not protected under the first amendment (indecency is protected), and even though Thomas lived in California, he was still held to the community standards of Tennessee.
Although I this may have changed with another case (I can't remember. I'll look it up later), the wording of the Arizona law sounds like they can prosecute anyone from any state. Great.
'MERICA!
Warborn
2012-04-03, 05:32 PM
What a utopia the world will be when the people who are making laws are people who grew up with the Internet.
Not surprised it's Arizona, though. The amount of hilariously stupid shit that I've read about that state is staggering. There are a few southern states in a desperate competition to out-crazy the others, but I think Arizona will pull ahead of the pack with this.
Graywolves
2012-04-03, 06:06 PM
It's unlawful to annoy and offend people? Yeah right...
There's a different between Trolling and Harassment, imo.
Vash02
2012-04-03, 06:51 PM
Anyone want to bet that Arizona will be getting a couple hundred thousand lewd emails, faxes and phone calls if the law is passed?
If the only thing Anon does about this is bring down their website for a few days I'll only yawn.
razor851
2012-04-03, 07:21 PM
Arizona is all *******.
DayOne
2012-04-03, 07:23 PM
We need anon to hack their site and just draw dicks all over it.
NewSith
2012-04-03, 07:26 PM
Now there's a question - what happens if somebody outside the US trolls a person in Arizona? Is this an international crime?
Warborn
2012-04-03, 07:40 PM
Now there's a question - what happens if somebody outside the US trolls a person in Arizona? Is this an international crime?
Even if other countries recognized the authority of the US state of Arizona, anyone in danger of being extradited to Arizona for trial and punishment would probably be able to dodge it by making the case that they'd receive torture, inhumane, or degrading treatment there.
Figment
2012-04-03, 08:28 PM
:huh:
Just imagine if they would demand the extradition of all the troll offenders of the world and the size of their prisons. :lol:
Not to mention the task of identifying who was the one behind the pc trolling. :rofl:
Such good spending of tax payers money. :) What's next? $10 million reward on the tip leading to troll-terrorists?
Ooooooh.
Figment
2012-04-03, 08:40 PM
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/04/internet_trolls_can_breathe_ea.php
Aawwwwww... it's been stopped. :( There goes the reward money.
Sirisian
2012-04-03, 08:54 PM
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/04/internet_trolls_can_breathe_ea.php
Aawwwwww... it's been stopped. :( There goes the reward money.
Scares me what kind of people they have passing laws though that it got this far.
Even if other countries recognized the authority of the US state of Arizona, anyone in danger of being extradited to Arizona for trial and punishment would probably be able to dodge it by making the case that they'd receive torture, inhumane, or degrading treatment there.
I believe luckily only the federal level can extradite individuals from agreeing countries. We've done it before to people in the UK (https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-uk-student-to-be-extradited-to-the-us-120313/). It wouldn't surprised me if states could use this power to extradite citizens of other countries and charge them for the court costs.
DayOne
2012-04-03, 09:06 PM
Someone should be prosecuted where they committed the crime.
Graywolves
2012-04-03, 09:39 PM
Someone should be prosecuted where they committed the crime.
eCourt?
DayOne
2012-04-03, 11:25 PM
eCourt?
I see the argument for "Because it's on the internet it must be global." but if someone from the UK was to phone up someone from the US and scam them out of money it makes sense that they, the scammer, should be punished under UK law.
Same applies for the internet. It's a communication device, not a country.
noxious
2012-04-03, 11:39 PM
Arizona is fast becoming the poster child for enacting terrible laws.
DayOne
2012-04-04, 12:14 AM
Arizona is fast becoming the poster child for enacting terrible laws.
Saying that is illegal...
Lonehunter
2012-04-04, 12:42 AM
Saying that is illegal...
But only if he lived in Arizona? What if someone from Texas taunts someone from Arizona into breaking their own law, does the Texan get punished at all? This is all so ridiculous lol
Figment
2012-04-04, 03:04 AM
We should all send "Arizona" a mail asking:
"Arizona, u mad?"
Warborn
2012-04-04, 11:47 AM
I believe luckily only the federal level can extradite individuals from agreeing countries. We've done it before to people in the UK (https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-uk-student-to-be-extradited-to-the-us-120313/). It wouldn't surprised me if states could use this power to extradite citizens of other countries and charge them for the court costs.
I'm pretty sure only federal offenses are things someone can be extradited to the US to stand trial for. There are interstate extradition provisions allowing states in the US to render suspects unto other states if appropriate, but I do not believe Arizona has any power to compel a foreign nation to hand over its Internet trolls so that Arpaio can dress them in pink underwear.
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