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Predator21
2012-04-16, 06:29 PM
Hi all,

Looking for some help! Noticed my last visit here was in 2004, wow, long time ago :P

1. What is your budget and does that include shipping/taxes?
Around £1000, yes included shipping/taxes, could go over a little if really needed...

2. Where do you live?
UK

3. What do you need this computer to do (like gaming, Photoshop, and so on)?
Gaming

4. What parts will you need for the computer? Please list what parts specifically.
Graphics Card
CPU
Motherboard
Solid State HD for speed
Big HDD for storage, like 1TB
PSU
CPU cooler
PC Case
RAM

5. Are you reusing any parts for this computer? If so please say what parts.
DVD-RW

6. What kind of monitor/resolution do you have or want to get to use for the computer?
I've just bought a 23" BenQ LED, this is separate from the budget

7. Do you have a legit OS? If so what OS and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?
I have legit WinXP, 32bit, will get Windows 7 64 bit? excluded from the budget above

8. What are you looking for the motherboard to have feature wise? Like SLI, Crossfire, Firewire, USB 3.0, Sata 6.0 Gb/s, and so on.
Not too fussed about this stuff... what ever you thinks best for my price range!

9. Any plans to overclock the CPU or GPU?
Maybe, don't know that much about overclocking, did it about 8 years ago on my current system a bit, so if it hasn't changed to much then maybe yeah.

10. What time kind of time frame are you planning on ordering these parts?
I want to order asap, I've been told to wait for a bit though, until Ivybridge is released as that'll bring prices down a bit.



Thank you in advance, I'm glad I found this forum again, this is just what I need. I don't have a clue after 8 years of not keeping up with hardware! :p

Goku
2012-04-17, 12:56 PM
I swear I've been doing more UK builds then anything else recently. I need to get a £ on my keyboard.

MSI HD 7970 - £379.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-144-MS)
Intel Core i5-2500K - £167.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-368-IN)
Corsair Carbide 500R - £92.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-060-CS)
MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 - £86.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-202-MS)
Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.D 1TB HDD - £84.98 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-085-HI)
Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB SSD - £119.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-009-CR)
OCZ ZS Series 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply - £59.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-056-OC)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler - £26.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-CM) (Out of stock currently)
OcUK Value 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 - £23.99 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-023-OK)

Total = £1,060.39 with tax and shipping

I changed the build around with a 7970 and a 128GB SSD for the same price as the first one I did. A lot better bang for the buck IMO. If you want to stay at £1,000 you can drop out the 7970 for this 7950 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-177-OK).

Is the monitor you got 120Hz?

Predator21
2012-04-17, 06:21 PM
Thank you Goku for the reply, appreciate it.

Yeah I got a 120hz Monitor, just got this one today actually - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-051-BQ&tool=3


Just wondering if it's worth spending the little bit extra and getting the nvidea..

Goku
2012-04-17, 07:06 PM
If you are interested in 3D gaming you probably should just due to that monitor supporting the feature. I think the 7900 series is having issues with 120Hz monitor at the moment too.

Predator21
2012-04-18, 09:18 AM
Yeah, I'll get an Nvidea then, will have a propper look tonight and maybe order the parts..

Do you think it would be smarter to wait for Ivybridge to be released?

Goku
2012-04-18, 09:36 AM
The release is about 1-2 weeks away. Are you interested in the 3570K (2500K IB equivalent) or are you hoping for a good deal on the 2500K? Either way I guess you can wait unless you need the system now. The 2500K isn't going to be delisted the second the 3570K gets listed anyway. I think they should be the same price too.

Predator21
2012-04-18, 04:39 PM
I was hoping for a price drop, but might just get the IB if the price isn't that much different. I can wait a couple of weeks, no rush

Goku
2012-04-18, 05:00 PM
Ok build will be good still by then. Just drop in the 3570k instead.

Predator21
2012-04-19, 07:28 PM
I got inpatient. I just ordered the below..

Thanks again Goku ;)

MSI GeForce GTX 680 OC Twin Frozr 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £391.66

Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £139.99

Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £97.49

Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £77.49

MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £72.49

Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.D 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (0F13180) £66.66

OCZ ZS Series 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £49.99

OcUK Value 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Low-Voltage Dual Channel Kit £24.99 2 £49.98 x 2 (16GB)

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket Intel® Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AMD Socket FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £22.49

Total inc Vat: £1,187.69

Goku
2012-04-19, 07:34 PM
Oh I see you are filling up the slots fully for the ram and got an aftermarket GTX 680. Enjoy the setup!

Predator21
2012-04-19, 08:27 PM
Yeah, went a little bit over original budget but happy with what I got, it's all being delivered on Saturday too :)

Only just noticed the CPU cooler is still out of stock, will I still be able to setup the system? Stock fan?

Goku
2012-04-19, 08:40 PM
OEM doesn't come with a fan. Not good. How much you want to spend on a CPU fan?

Predator21
2012-04-19, 09:06 PM
I could just order another and get that one cancelled I guess..
Will to spend around £50

Goku
2012-04-20, 12:46 AM
The Evo is a great value that's why I put it in the build. If you want To order a smilar performer look at the scythe yasa or thermalright venomous x. If you want something really new check out the corsair h60. You can get this all on overclockers.

If you want the evo you can get it here for a similar price http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/53789/Coolermaster-Hyper-212-EVO-CPU-Cooler---

Knocky
2012-04-20, 05:07 AM
Goku, you wouldn't go with an all copper CPU cooler?

Sure it's twice as much, but doesn't copper diffuse more heat then aluminum?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019

Goku
2012-04-20, 07:00 AM
Totally depends on the design. A crappy design isn't going to be made up by copper.

Predator21
2012-04-20, 12:58 PM
Hey Goku,

Are you sure this PSU will be powerful enough for what Ive got?

Thanks

Goku
2012-04-20, 01:43 PM
Easily.

Predator21
2012-04-20, 01:54 PM
Ah ok just thought I'd ask as someone said it might not be.

I got the Corsair h60 btw, managed to change the order in time, so all is good ;)

Thanks

Goku
2012-04-20, 02:56 PM
Even overclocked with a 2600K and GTX 680 the system pulls under 400W. You generally want a PSU that has a good amount of room wattage wise to not overload it. A 650W will give you plenty of expansion in the future as well. Especially if the graphics cards get power hungry again next gen or two.

Very nice. Its a unique cooler. My brother has one and its great. I'm probably going to get the H80 next time it goes on sale.

Rbstr
2012-04-20, 03:40 PM
Sure it's twice as much, but doesn't copper diffuse more heat then aluminum?

Copper conducts heat better than aluminium, which you could consider a form of diffusion. But it's not really "more" heat diffused, it's a faster rate of diffusion. A critical distinction.
If we assume the CPU is constantly emitting some amount of heat, say 100W, all of that heat will get out regardless of the heat sink type. A CPU at 50C will put out 100W, one at 70C will put out 100W (This isn't actually true, but in a 20C range, it's fairly close). The differences will be in CPU/Sink temperatures, not the amount of heat emitted.
You see temperature difference is the driving force for heat transfer. That means for a piece of Al to move the same amount of heat as a piece of Cu the temperature difference across the piece of Al has to be larger than the one across the Cu.
It also means a higher air-exposed surface temperature in the copper, which leads to higher transfer rate of heat to the air.

There's an example I can give that uses a can being filled water which has a hole in the bottom, if you want an analogy. (bigger hole [conductivity] = lower water level [temperature]) even though the filling rate stays the same)

Personally having had one of the older Zalman "flower-style" sinks, before they went to heat pipes, I loved it. Super quiet. I've just used the OEM sink on my i5.
I'm interested to know how loud that water cooling kit is. I've been thinking about going and building my own simple kit for just the CPU, perhaps even the video card. It's hard to figure out how much cooling you really need. I might end up with a more passive kind of system and essentially replace one wall of my case with a radiator.

Knocky
2012-04-20, 03:51 PM
I have the OEM cooler on my 2500k, I am thinking about seeing what kind of OC I can get with it.

:cool:

And I will never go liquid cooling. Looks like way too much effort when all I have to do is clean the filters from time to time.

Predator21
2012-04-20, 04:57 PM
I have the OEM cooler on my 2500k, I am thinking about seeing what kind of OC I can get with it.

:cool:

And I will never go liquid cooling. Looks like way too much effort when all I have to do is clean the filters from time to time.


Goku, I thought you said OEM doesn't come with stock cooler?

Goku
2012-04-20, 05:00 PM
OEM CPUs do not come with stock coolers. I think Knocky is referring to OEM as a stock cooler. The reason the 2500K you have is cheaper is due to not having a heastsink/fan with it.

Knocky
2012-04-20, 05:06 PM
OEM CPUs do not come with stock coolers. I think Knocky is referring to OEM as a stock cooler. The reason the 2500K you have is cheaper is due to not having a heastsink/fan with it.

Yeah, mine came with a cooler....thankfully since my CPU cooler didnt have an adapter for the new z68 board.

Goku
2012-04-20, 05:07 PM
Thats odd...

Something must of changed I guess.

Knocky
2012-04-20, 05:11 PM
Thats odd...

Something must of changed I guess.

No...the new version of it has the adapters for the 1155 and the 775 socket.

When I bought the cooler...the 1155 did not exist. So I dont have the backplate adapter.

Goku
2012-04-20, 11:32 PM
What cooler are you talking about?

Knocky
2012-04-21, 05:59 AM
What cooler are you talking about?

The one I linked too in the first page


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019

Predator21
2012-04-21, 08:26 AM
Annoyingly they didn't deliver today, the gfx card went from "1 available" to "Available 27/04/12" since doing my order and they failed to notify me... I'll have to wait another week unless I change the card to something else..

This is the one I ordered:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-156-MS

You reckon I should wait or can you recommend another good card around the same price?

Vancha
2012-04-21, 09:02 AM
I believe the Palit Jetstream's supposed to be fairly quiet, and it comes higher clocked than the Twin Frozr, too.

Goku
2012-04-21, 09:57 AM
I wouldn't spend the extra £50-£100 personally.

Really
2012-04-21, 10:00 AM
From what I've seen there's like a 5% difference max between reference 680s and the OC versions, and overclocking's still limited due to the voltage being regulated by Nvidia. I'd just go for a reference version (the cheaper ones :p) if you're not looking to break overclocking records or anything :)

Goku
2012-04-21, 10:01 AM
What really said is true. The stock heats sink is pretty quiet and keeps the card cooled good.

Predator21
2012-04-21, 10:08 AM
The MSI I have ordered already, is that a reference version?

Goku
2012-04-21, 10:11 AM
No due to having a aftermarket cooler.

DarkMarc
2012-04-21, 12:14 PM
MSI Twinfroz GTX 680 : that suposse to get at about 1.2GHZ and memory around 1.7Ghz with fairly enough quiet fan at 45% - 65% compare to my ex card hope you enjoy it :P

did you get a good cpu cooler for ur i5 2500k ? i have a Havik 140 :and my cpu at 4.6Ghz with max temp 55C

Predator21
2012-04-21, 01:43 PM
DarkMarc, I got this one - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-006-CS

Anyone know if IvyBridge will be released before next Sat? :o

DarkMarc
2012-04-21, 02:20 PM
did you buy it ? you can return it within 14 day : it not as efficent as Havik 140 by far but it a smaller cooler the guy on gamespot with is H60 as is at 4.5ghz with 66C i as mine at 4.6Ghz with 55C

they are to release in 7 day according past schedule or maybe it just laptop ? I really don't know where i5 3570K is heading this is very strange : i knew the day i5 2500K would launch 4 month in advance and it released that day

Goku
2012-04-21, 02:44 PM
I only mentioned the H60 due to it being a unique cooler and not being a huge chunk of metal taking up a bunch of space in the case. I wouldn't worry about switching them. It can handle full overclocks (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5) fine. From the reviews I'm checking out there isn't a massive difference between the two anyway. One shows beating the other while the next is opposite.

Anyway I hear IB is supposed to be released next week or early the week after...

DarkMarc
2012-04-21, 02:52 PM
oh yeah is getting a 500R I donno if my cooler fit into it really well i know it was fitting im my CM 690 but now as HAF 932 :) i know but most of people consider anandtech cooling review biased because several other place show much higher temp but they where testing i7 980 (six core) which is a heat oven not a I7 2600K at 4.8Ghz

well was making sure he get best temp when both cooler are about same price i could post result brb
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/nzxt_havik-120_review/5

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1643/6/ this one seem biased because in all other review Antec 13 Freezer pro is an Extremely awful cpu cooler per $

Goku
2012-04-21, 02:53 PM
500R can handle it I'm sure, but regardless those HS take up a huge amount of space. My Venomous X does especially with two fans on it.

DarkMarc
2012-04-21, 03:24 PM
i know it take space but that not a problem to have a huge heatsink it just that you see less the motherboard unless you want that bad 12-16GB OF DDR3 but so far no video game lead to conclusion it would use the extra ram as resources unless GPU where to 3GB To 4GB By 2014 for 150-250$ Card and that monitor PPI double

like intel promise in 2013 Q3 (2560x1600 on 19 inch) and 4K HD on 30+ inch looking forward to what it bring :P might change my 4 year old monitor if i can get 1500P on 24 inch's for under 1000$ lol

if only having 12GB-16GB OF RAM actually did something like when you compare 2GB vs 4GB in games all that matter if is company will make us 3,500MHZ Memory soon for affordable price

Predator21
2012-04-21, 08:10 PM
Hey Goku,

This RAM https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-023-OK

It's dual channel, and PC-10366, no idea what that means but it's near the bottom of the list on ocuk site. I notice it's a lot cheaper too.

Is there a big difference?

Maybe I should get 8GB of better RAM? Rather than 16gb of this, don't mind spending a bit more if big improvement..

Goku
2012-04-21, 08:22 PM
Thats what I linked to you originally to get. Did you just get 16GB of it vs 8GB?

I am hearing now Ivy Bridge will be out as early as the 23rd (Monday) and the latest the 28th/29th. Depends I the shop I guess.

Predator21
2012-04-21, 08:46 PM
Yeah I bought 16GB of it rather than 8GB. I can change things still though as my order won't arrive until next Sat.

I saw that too... I wonder if I should go for the Ivybridge if it's released on Mon

Goku
2012-04-21, 09:13 PM
Might as well. 8GB is plenty for anything unless you need something that uses that much ram.

Really
2012-04-22, 08:03 AM
Ivy Bridge is being press released on 23rd (so reviews etc) and released for sale on the 29th, according to Gibbo (sales guy) on OcUK forums :)

Predator21
2012-04-22, 08:45 AM
Ivy Bridge is being press released on 23rd (so reviews etc) and released for sale on the 29th, according to Gibbo (sales guy) on OcUK forums :)

I just want the PC, but seems silly not to wait now :s I wonder if ocuk can pause my order if i want to wait..

Goku
2012-04-22, 08:47 AM
Best get a hold of them then.

DarkMarc
2012-04-22, 12:47 PM
you can return every article specially if unopen box which is at free of restocking fee within 14 day of satisfaction previously was 7 :but to match dabs & aria they ad to move to 14 days from what i read

iv build 17 suggestion of OCUK & Competitor website from gamespot within 2 year they have a fantastic costumer support but RMA can take forever but not there fault it Manufactured side

you can return cpu cooler if you realise it not cold enough / you can return gpu if it not powerful enough for low restocking fee but if it unopen no restock fee

if you wish to wait for Z77 & i5 Gen 3 which is soon which you should wait for well i suggest you check if shipping already on the go if so : can't be cancel but you can return the article to the store without re-shipping cost i think check with them they won't charge restocking fee however

because a paid service can't be refund it even mention in how postal service work once you paid for something and it on the go there no turn back so you can't hold a service but you can cancel a service given it on the process

Predator21
2012-04-25, 04:06 PM
Ok, I've been a bit stupid and need help again :S

I changed the RAM last week to this "https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-068-GS"

I've just noticed the motherboard on my order "https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-202-MS" won't support it..

Can you recommend a good motherboard that would support this RAM?

Is it worth spending the extra to get Quad Channel support?

Cheers

termhn
2012-04-25, 04:43 PM
That RAM is way overkill for gaming. Go for an 8GB 1600 dual-channel and then get the gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H or UD3H. Great boards especially if you maybe want to hackintosh in the future.

- UD3H can have a higher RAM OC.
- UD3H uses the VIA VT2021 codec / UD5H uses Realtek ALC898 codec and Support for X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity® and EAX® Advanced HD™ 5.0 technologies
- Each have different USB setups
- UD5H has 1 x heatsink LED power connector
- UD5H 5 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors, 4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors, 1 x mSATA connector
- UD3H 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors, 4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors, 1 x mSATA connector

Predator21
2012-04-25, 05:10 PM
How's this look:

RAM:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-319-CS

MOBO:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-202-MS

Predator21
2012-04-25, 05:13 PM
Thank you termhn, however I won't be overclocking that much.. I don't know too much about it, it's something I'll look into though, how does the setup above look? Thats different RAM with the mobo Goku suggested...

Goku
2012-04-25, 05:20 PM
Just stick with the ram and mobo I already told you to get previously. You don't need anything more then that. There is no reason to get more then 8GB and nothing over 1333Mhz makes any difference in gaming. Quad channel is a totally other platform and costs twice as much then a IB/SB build.

This ram (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-023-OK&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1516) and motherboard (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-202-MS).

Predator21
2012-04-25, 05:34 PM
Just stick with the ram and mobo I already told you to get previously. You don't need anything more then that. There is no reason to get more then 8GB and nothing over 1333Mhz makes any difference in gaming. Quad channel is a totally other platform and costs twice as much then a IB/SB build.

This ram (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-023-OK&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1516) and motherboard (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-202-MS).

Ahh ok, I've put back to 8gb of the OCUK RAM you mentioned. That saves me some cash as well... I stupidly got sucked into the marketing. Thanks ;)

The Desert Fox
2012-04-26, 01:10 PM
I know this is off topic but while the thread is active I wanted to know ur opinions of this Processor Goku.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL042612&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL042612-_-EMC-042612-Index-_-ProcessorsDesktops-_-19103962-L02D

I know most people dislike AMD but I personally have had a great experience with my current setup, and if I get this I don't believe I would need to upgrade my MOBO.

My current is a AMD Athlon II X4 635(2.9GHz)

Goku
2012-04-26, 01:30 PM
I don't recommend any of the FX processors. That 6000 series probably won't be much of any boost. If people have to get one I would only go with the 8120.

In the other thread you mention getting IB for $200. Why buy a FX for a few bucks less?

The Desert Fox
2012-04-26, 01:34 PM
Because im cheap lol and that accommodation comes once a year and it's random intel doesn't tell us when. Could be may, could be November. but I should probably just wait it out.

Goku
2012-04-26, 03:15 PM
Retail edge right? I think that starts in the fall to winter if I'm not mistaken. Is your athlon giving you issues and what is your VGA?

Predator21
2012-04-26, 04:28 PM
Ha. The H60 is now out of stock. Again, it wasn't when I purchased it..

Doesn't seem like they held onto one for me either as I got the "item to follow" email, will be having a word tomorrow!

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-006-CS

Tempted to just cancel the order and go elsewhere.. :-|

Goku
2012-04-26, 05:24 PM
Predator. What exactly is the hold up on the order now? IB?

If you want to stick with something like the H60 check out the Antec Kuhler 620 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-005-AN&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=2262). If you just want to stick with air go with this (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-093-TR).

Vancha
2012-04-26, 08:16 PM
Predator, are you using Googles "shopping" section? Most vendors you'll probably want to avoid, but it also lists the good ones too. I can make a list of the "good" ones, if you like.

Not that there's anything wrong with Overclockers (although now I'm starting to wonder), but for some things you could probably be getting better prices elsewhere.

Goku
2012-04-26, 10:01 PM
Vancha could you do that? I like to know a few more UK/Euro shops to know about.

Really
2012-04-27, 03:09 AM
Yeah OcUK seem to be a bit crap when things go out of stock, they didn't notify me or hold any of the things that were in stock for me either :/

Some other good UK shops (from experience) are Dabs.com, ebuyer.com, scan.co.uk, aria.co.uk, and sometimes amazon have things cheaper. Lots of shopping around!

Vancha
2012-04-27, 11:56 AM
I certainly can't vouch for all of these being wonderful, they're listed somewhat in order of prominence/relevance, but no doubt some of these just flew under my radar. I'm fairly confident all of these are "well intentioned" though.

Scan (http://www.scan.co.uk)
CCL (http://www.cclonline.com/)
Aria (http://www.aria.co.uk/)
Dabs (http://www.dabs.com/)
Micro Direct (http://www.microdirect.co.uk)
Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk)
ebuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/)
memoryc (Ram/Storage focused) (http://www.memoryc.com)
Quiet PC (low noise focused) (http://www.quietpc.com)
novatech (http://www.novatech.co.uk/)
Overclock (not the same as Overclockers) (http://www.overclock.co.uk/)
YoYo Tech (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk)
saverstore (http://www.saverstore.com/)
SpecialTech (http://www.specialtech.co.uk)
europc (http://www.europc.co.uk/)
LambdaTek (http://www.lambda-tek.com)
Overstock (http://www.overstock.com)
PIXmania (http://www.pixmania.co.uk)
MISCO (http://www.misco.co.uk)
more computers (http://www.morecomputers.com)
tekheads (http://www.tekheads.co.uk)
Kikatek (http://www.kikatek.com/)
Play (http://www.play.com)
box (http://www.box.co.uk)
BT Shop (http://www.shop.bt.com)
Trust Hardware (http://www.trusthardware.co.uk/)
Oyyy (http://www.oyyy.co.uk)
cbccomputers (http://www.cbccomputers.com)

Predator21
2012-04-27, 02:31 PM
The holdup has been down to overclockers, I'll order something (in stock) then on delivery day they'll say its out of stock.

Today I swapped the CPU cooler to https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-009-CS&tool=3

And the Graphics card to
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-092-GI

It should be arriving tomorrow now, at last.

I decided not to wait for IB

Goku
2012-04-27, 03:53 PM
Way overkill on the H100, buts its beastly. Thankfully you have one of the few cases that supports it.

@ Vancha thanks for the links

Predator21
2012-04-29, 08:11 AM
The OC Genie II doesn't seem to be changing anything, my CPU is still runnnig at 3.3Ghz, anyone got experience with this? It should be really easy, just click of a button...

Stew
2012-04-29, 08:44 AM
Graphics Card : Gtx 560 Ti or GTX 570
CPU : 15-2500 k
Motherboard : asus P8p67 Evo
Solid State HD for speed
Big HDD for storage, like 1TB
PSU : any good psu over 700 watts
CPU cooler : U have a lots of options but many cpu collers have enough power for a 4.5 to 4.8 ghz overclock
PC Case : Coller master HAF 922
RAM : Gskill snipers or ripjaws ddr3 1600

Dont buy a to expensive MB its a lost of money also try to find thing like PSU on sale but the HAF coller master case series are the best (( stock )) tower ever made for gaming at a very cheap price around 80 to 100 us $ just make sure ur MB suport SLI and try to find one at 180 US $ and less

focus on the most important i mean Memory GPU CPU and Colling the HAF is a very cool tower with 220 mm very quiet fans and u can also had other fans at 10 $ each max

Vancha
2012-04-29, 12:16 PM
:doh:

Predator21
2012-04-29, 03:25 PM
I think its the RAM limiting my overclock? :(

Goku
2012-04-29, 03:33 PM
Have you read up on any guides for overclocking SB? RAM has nothing to do with it, since its a unlocked multiplier processor. I hope you are not trying to overclock via the old bus method. That doesn't work anymore.

Predator21
2012-04-29, 03:39 PM
Have you read up on any guides for overclocking SB? RAM has nothing to do with it, since its a unlocked multiplier processor. I hope you are not trying to overclock via the old bus method. That doesn't work anymore.

I've post on the MSI forums asking for help, I've posted some screenies on there from CPU-Z:
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=158617.0

I'm using this built in feature called OC Genie II, it's a unique MSI feature where it automatically sets you up optimally to the highest overclock it thinks possible.

Goku
2012-04-29, 03:42 PM
You are likely not using the proper settings. Keep trouble shooting with the MSI rep on that site. I don't use the automatic feature, but instead fine tuning it myself. Pretty sure the RAM isn't the issue here.

Predator21
2012-04-29, 08:12 PM
It overclocks manually fine, set the multiplier to 42x to give me 4.2 Ghz, is running at 32C on full load...

So it's running like a dream :)

3dmark score - P8094 3DMarks

Thanks for your help

Goku
2012-04-29, 08:35 PM
Very nice. That H100 is just an awesome cooler. I bet you can take that to at least 4.8GHz.