New pic of TR Prowler

[JPalmer]

I asked Tray and I received.

http://yfrog.com/h6xoxnoj

[Zulthus]

That looks badass. It seems like it still has the front entrance flap too.

[Bags]

Bridge in the background.

[Metalsheep]

That looks badass. It seems like it still has the front entrance flap too.

Hopefully that means they're gonna add Enter/Exit animations. Otherwise its a pointless thing to add.

[Ailos]

That double-barrel looks quite meanacing.

[Eighm]

Bridge in the background.

Saw this as well. Looks like the bridge from Shadow of the Colossus.

[BlazingSun]

Too bad the tank barrels are still off center. That's here to stay it seems.

[Zulthus]

I'm really looking forward to bridge battles...

[sylphaen]

Somehow this picture makes me think about Disney's Cars...

[Malorn]

I really hate the asymmetry of the prowler turret.

I like how they lowered it's profile. Looks like the sports car of the tanks.

Bridge looks great. Memories of Ceryshen flowing back in. Most epic bridge battles ever!

[EVILPIG]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4251/prowler.png

[Tialian]

Too bad the tank barrels are still off center. That's here to stay it seems.

Its possible that may not be such a bad thing, it could allow a prowler to be more behind cover while still being able to lay down fire.

[Zulthus]

I really hate the asymmetry of the prowler turret.

I like how they lowered it's profile. Looks like the sports car of the tanks.

Bridge looks great. Memories of Ceryshen flowing back in. Most epic bridge battles ever!

Yeah. I kind of feel as if the Prowler would look better with them centered and the Vanguard having it off to the side as in the original. Dual turrets off center looks kind of odd.

[SniperSteve]

Yeah, the body looks really good. The off-center barrels look weird, but whatever. It will still kill NC/VS just fine.

[Hmr85]

I think it looks pretty cool. I don't know why all the TR players say that thing looks ugly. So what if the barrels are off to the side. I'm sure it will still blow shit up just as good.

[Vanir]

I like the off center barrels, it looks different and I highly doubt that it would make any kind of difference in game. As any driver knows from PS1, a non moving tank = a dead tank. Hence the importance of having a driver that can focus on driving and not have to bother with controling a gun.

[Graywolves]

I love it. I can't wait to drive in that, to gun it, to charge enemy lines alongside it, to cower behind it....



It's so sexy!!!!!

[LostAlgorithm]

Can't wait to blow it up. :D

[Wargrim]

Every time i see that track assembly i wonder how it is supposed to scale obstacles. No match for Vanguard sexyness. :)

[headcrab13]

NICE! Loving the Prowler's new look, the scale and height of that bridge, and Indar's look in general. So pumped!

[Hamma]

Rehosted:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media.php?view=2042

[SKYeXile]

the lower glacis will make for easy penetration...

[Grognard]

I'll try to say this in the most PC way possible, but I do not like the way that tank looks... and I cant stress enough... "at all". Luckily for TR the infantry models are really good.

[Brusi]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4251/prowler.png

Thanks pig, my neck was starting to hurt

[cellinaire]

That bridge....sweet

[SniperSteve]

Summery of PSU members' reactions:

Devs post image.
Comments are made about small background detail, completely ignoring the main object.
Comments are made about how the object is not like it was in PS1.
Comments are made about the quality of the phone-taken-image.
Questions are raised about balance.
Questions are raised about beta.

I just realized I don't need to browse the forums nearly as often as I do. :D

[Graywolves]

Summery of PSU members' reactions:

Devs post image.
Comments are made about small background detail, completely ignoring the main object.
Comments are made about how the object is not like it was in PS1.
Comments are made about the quality of the phone-taken-image.
Questions are raised about balance.
Questions are raised about beta.

I just realized I don't need to browse the forums nearly as often as I do. :D

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[BorisBlade]

While i like the mag (minus the no turret thing), and the van looks great, im still not liking the prowler at all no matter how much i try. It looks like a shoebox with a crooked barrel on top. Odd shape plus the off center barrel just isnt working. Of course the skeeter is meh too so maybe since TR had the coolest stuff in ps1 they get to have the worst in ps2. The infantry models tho do look sweet for tr, just the vehicles, esp this, that are very lacking.

[sylphaen]

the lower glacis will make for easy penetration...

Before or after the turrets are blown? ...

[Canaris]

Still don't like the look of the side mounted guns

[Knocky]

That bridge....sweet

Lets hope there are not dirt roads leading up to those massive bridges this time.

[Ainte]

i dont like forward wheels, its like this tank got no suspension at all...

[Tamas]

It looks good, pity some people hate asymmetrical items.

[Fenrod]

Wow, that bridge will be an awesome place to prepare airstrikes against infantry and vehicles.

[DaSwede]

I can't get over the asymmetrical look and low ground clearance. I'm TR and regardless how much I try I just can't like the Prowler.

Comparing it to the Vanny and Mag it almost looks like something that was thrown together of left over textures and mesh models over a coffee break.

TR is supposed to be the most militarized of the factions and this tank doesn't show that.
Scrap and redo it

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[atone]

It looks good, pity some people hate asymmetrical items.

ya, it looks good. perfectly symmetrical everything gets boring after a while. we need some iconic vehicles that standout for this game.

[MGP]

New Prowler pic... still looks like shit. Can't wait to blow those foil-armored baby's toys to the skies with my Vanguard (or maybe Reaver).
:ncrocks: :trsucks:

[Fara]

I appreciate the work that goes into the design & creation of these vehicle models. However that being said, why is the Prowler now the smallest of all the tanks? Why must it have an off-centre turret arrangement?

We get the Vanu being all science and hover stuff. The NC being (s)crapheap challenge lets modify a tractor or somthing, so why is it the TR... ie the most militaristic of the three factions left with the smaller hull & offcentre turret?

The chassis looks good if but a little bit smaller than its counterparts, very TR very old Prowler without the high rise rear end. Maybe its just the Turret being too small, too low profile & not intimidating enough? That and I can't help but feel its going to tip over to one side...

Anyhow, excellent craftsmanship as always!




*edit*
Why dont you put another 2 gun barrels on the "Right" side to make it symetrical with the left... I could learn to love a 4 barrel tank >: )

[GhundiPI]

I like it very much, especially the asymmetry of the turret. For me that gives it a more futuristic feeling than if it were symmetric and is a nice break from the 'same old, same old'. Besides even in real life new tech is trending on the asymmetrical side these days.

[sylphaen]

I appreciate the work that goes into the design & creation of these vehicle models. However that being said, why is the Prowler now the smallest of all the tanks?

Acknowledging a long tradition of biased news, there is nothing better than a small sized-vehicle to justify to the public why 180mm Vanguard canons keep smoking Prowlers every single day.

It's like with the Vanu sovereignty: if it was not for malfunctions, there is no way vanguards should beat our mags.

Prowlers --> :rofl:

You know, afterall, maybe the NC and VS separated because the republic's tanks were just bad and plain terrible to drive ? Just accept simple facts of life: Vanguards are simply the best tank around while Magriders are the most fun.

There is a good news though: you still have some time left to change your mind and switch to the better factions !

[Canaris]

you know I've been thinking about it and you're right it's definetly the asymmetry I dislike the most, off center things *shudder*

One of the reasons I hated so many ships in EvE.

[Shake]

I don't mind the asymmetry but I do think the prowler is way worse looking than the vanguard. The vanguard is menacing, sleek, etc. The prowler is small, looks weak, and ironically looks like it was thrown together using scrap metal whereas the vanguard looks manufactured and flawless...

I get that they want the prowler to look fast and all, but honestly if you asked a random person whether the pics of the vanguard or prowler look faster they would say vanguard. People don't associate wide vehicles with speed. The prowler is almost a square whereas the vanguard is a rectangle.

Aesthetics aside the vanguard is just going to be a much better tank IMO. Speed isn't as useful as firepower when it comes to tanks. It's not like I can run circles around other tanks in a prowler, unless their gunners sensitivity is stupidly low he can just rotate the turret and kill me with superior firepower.

Prowler seems like the worst tank aesthetically and functionally.

[Saieno]

Prowler seems like the worst tank aesthetically and functionally.

I really like the new position of the barrels the more I think about it, and seems perfectly fine in both aesthetics and functionality. We need to keep in mind that we aren't just driving anymore, we are also in charge of shooting the main tank. We also need to remember that the Terran Republic are focused on speed, which means it'll be more like driving a fast armored vehicle more than a slow lumbering tank. So keeping these things in mind lets look at some of the pictures we have.

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120109_4f0b5250cb698.jpg

This is a really good picture to show my main defense in the design of the new Terran Republic Prowler. First off its smaller than the Magrider and Vanguard, supporting the new focus on speed and mobility for the empire. This smaller size and shorter stature would also make it harder to hit at long ranges, so when you bring faster speed into the mix you can start to see the benefits. The next obvious focal point is the main gun, however I'd like you to look instead at the gunner turret right behind the main gun. It's actually placed right on the main pivoting point of the tank, and sits slightly lower than the other two empires. This should help prevent disorientation while maneuvering around mid-fight. Now lets move on to the main gun.

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120109_4f0b8e89c9cd3.jpg

If you remember from the 45 Mins of GamePlay from GDC, the Vanguard camera was below and to the left of the main cannon. This is because the drivers window is located there, as you can see in the picture above as a dark rectangular window. So I would assume that the Terran Republics driver window is the middle area, top left of where the mouse cursor is pointing. This would mean the driver is positioned directly in the middle of the tank, allowing for potentially more situational awareness and better driving ability. These are all assumptions of course, but I can certainly see how the design can really be a plus for Terran Republic soldiers. As far as the main gun itself lets look at the most recent picture.

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120418_4f8f68a123665.jpg

The two barrels for the main cannon are now much closer together than the original (http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/i3zyjmopt/psuscreenapr07-0032.jpg), hopefully alleviating the constant misalignment issue that plagued the Prowler in Planetside 1. We don't really know the caliber or rate of fire yet, but I'm confident that it will be balanced with the other empires. I would much rather the new Prowler in Planetside 2 than the tortoise of a tank we had in Planetside 1.

[Shake]

I don't think mobility beats firepower for tanks though... The role of a tank to me is to be able to take significant amounts of damage and be able to deal big damage out... The vanguard obviously fits that role best. I really think that making the prowler fast at the expense of firepower and durability is just gimping it. Against a decent vanguard driver the prowler will lose every time. I don't think the mobility will be enough to really make a difference, as long as the vanguard driver has decent aim you're just gimping yourself as a tank driver by playing TR.

Beyond that, I still think that the prowler aesthetically looks stupid. Again, its a square, and I don't think people associate square vehicles with speed. The vanguard, to me, looks much faster with its rectangular shape.

I have no problem with the asymmetrical placement of the main canons by the way. I don't really see that as a disadvantage and to be honest I think it looks quite good. The turret of the tank looks fine to me but its square and scrappy looking base looks stupid IMO.

[Saieno]

I don't think mobility beats firepower for tanks though... The role of a tank to me is to be able to take significant amounts of damage and be able to deal big damage out...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/M18_hellcat_side.jpg/800px-M18_hellcat_side.jpg

I suppose you don't remember the M18 Hellcat then? It was an American tank destroyer of World War II that was the fastest tracked armored fighting vehicle during the war with a top speed up to 60 mph. Hellcat crews took advantage of the vehicle's speed to protect against hits to its thin armor. Many German Panther and Tiger tanks were destroyed because they could not turn their turrets fast enough to return fire which you mentioned in a previous post about the Vanguard. However we'll just have to see how it works during beta.

[Fenrod]

Silly question : can we fire with the turret mounted on the Prowler ? Or is this just a kind of decoration ?

[Saieno]

Silly question : can we fire with the turret mounted on the Prowler ? Or is this just a kind of decoration ?

It's a secondary gunner position. It's also customizable so you can put different kinds of turrets up there.

[TerminatorUK]

I heard the off centre barrels were so that an additional pair (for a total of 4) are added to the other side when you have the dedicated gunner upgrade selected...

[Saieno]

I heard the off centre barrels were so that an additional pair (for a total of 4) are added to the other side when you have the dedicated gunner upgrade selected...

They haven't even confirmed a dedicated gunner unlock, they've only stated they are looking into making it available. Would love to see where you read this though.

[Goku]

I heard the off centre barrels were so that an additional pair (for a total of 4) are added to the other side when you have the dedicated gunner upgrade selected...

Makes sense. Thats a huge amount of shells coming at you.

[Metalsheep]

Some people just can't handle a lack of symmetry...

http://thefivewits.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/death-the-kid-shirt.jpg

(Props if you get the joke)

[Quovatis]

The other side of the turret might be for the interchangeable secondary weapon? Looks good though.

[Shake]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/M18_hellcat_side.jpg/800px-M18_hellcat_side.jpg

I suppose you don't remember the M18 Hellcat then? It was an American tank destroyer of World War II that was the fastest tracked armored fighting vehicle during the war with a top speed up to 60 mph. Hellcat crews took advantage of the vehicle's speed to protect against hits to its thin armor. Many German Panther and Tiger tanks were destroyed because they could not turn their turrets fast enough to return fire which you mentioned in a previous post about the Vanguard. However we'll just have to see how it works during beta.

If they cap the turn speed of vanguard turrets then yes, prowlers would have an advantage if they could get in position, but I doubt they will. If the vanguard turret can move fast enough to keep up with a prowler, which I assume it will be able to, then prowlers will have no advantage at all unless the vanguard driver can't aim well.

[SniperSteve]

the Prowler is the sports car of tanks. I kinda like the body that it has. Reminds me somewhat of a Corvette.

[MrBloodworth]

Too bad we won't be crawling in the front of it.

[Fenrys]

In the "the9" trailer the prowler was shooting three round burst. Or maybe it was the vanguard, but one of them were not firing a single shell.

I think that was a Lightning using AI shells. I think I remember hearing in one of the interviews that the Lightning would have a multi-shot option that was strong against infantry.

[Malorn]

The explanation on the previous page about the camera position vs turret makes a lot of sense in explaining why the prowler has an asymmetrical design.

In PS1 the driver's view was below the turret, with the gunner slightly above the guns. In PS2 it looks as though the driver's view is on the turret, but still low.

If they put the driver view above the turret it might have been awkward or given the driver more of a view advantage than they wanted. That or the top may be reserved for the secondary gunner. If they kept the guns center then they very well may have obstructed a lot of the driver's view. By putting the main gun to the side they free up the driver's visibility, though I wonder if they may have created a blindspot on the left side.

Seems like a they may have had a function-over-form decision. It allows them to put other weapons on the right side (the description of the prowler indicated more weapon systems than the other tanks), while still leaving the top open for the secondary gunner.


As for advantages, we know that the Prowler is medium armor, high speed, high RoF. In PS1 it had the highest damage throughput (dps) of the main guns of all the tanks.
The Prowler is a medium tank that is not only the fastest empire specific tank on the field but it can be armed to the teeth with extra weapon systems beyond the other empires medium tanks, making it one of the deadliest vehicles in the game.

This is consistent with the general Terran design:
Terran Republic weapons have the fastest firing rates, largest ammo capacities, and are generally designed to allow for maximum sustainable damage.

I believe the Prowler will have the highest dps of all the tanks again in PS2, while also being the fastest and retaining its medium-armor status from PS1. If you compare the characteristics of the prowler from PS1 to PS2...

1) It remains highest dps
2) It retains the same armor (relatively speaking)
3) It moves up from the slowest tank to the fastest
4) It's profile has become smaller, even smaller than the other tanks.
5) Driver has both main gun and a secondary machinegun (something it lacked in PS1)

As far as I can see it's a straight upgrade from PS1. Main complaints of it were the lack of a machinegun on the gunner, slow speed, bulky profile. All of those have been addressed in the PS2 prowler.

Tactics-wise it appears the Prowler is the perfect Blitzkrieg tank, able to move in fast and low and bring to bear unrivaled firepower. It isn't a glass cannon since it has medium armor. Its smaller size and speed will help compensate and give it some flanking advantages.

And best of all - no tank can run from a prowler (except maybe a mag over a river). Speed means you can dictate engagements, and that's a poweful advantage in its own right. It can outrun the other tanks, which means it can escape and nothing can escape it.

Looks to be a great and fun tank in PS2 with its own niche like the other two tanks.

[Talek Krell]

Any other WoT players in here?


Maybe they should model the Prowler playstyle off of the T-54. That'd shut the design critics right up.:D

[Destroyeron]

*edit*
Why dont you put another 2 gun barrels on the "Right" side to make it symetrical with the left... I could learn to love a 4 barrel tank >: )

Best solution I've heard put forth to date.

[Malorn]

That may be an alternate weapon or configuration. The Prowler is supposed to have additional weapon systems, that right side could be where they go.

[sylphaen]

no tank can run from a prowler (except maybe a mag over a river). Speed means you can dictate engagements, and that's a powerful advantage in its own right. It can outrun the other tanks, which means it can escape and nothing can escape it.

Best argument I have read going for the new prowler design. I loved the enforcer top speed (OP gun too :cool:) in PS1 for that reason.

I'm thinking that locational damage in PS2 might make it less of an advantage though... but we'll see during beta.

As of now, we don't have a lot of info so it's totally subjective and biased but I'm feeling that we VS got the shaft on MBTs. Hopefully, the Scythe won't disappoint.

[TerminatorUK]

They haven't even confirmed a dedicated gunner unlock, they've only stated they are looking into making it available. Would love to see where you read this though.

Haha I was just making it up :P

But it would be quite cool though :)

[Ejaz]

Right now, the Prowler looks really good!

[Ejaz]

Hopefully, the Scythe won't disappoint.


All Faction specific Air vehicles won't be disappointing. I'm sure!

[Geist]

I don't know about you guys, but I love the new Prowler. It looks awesome and actually a bit practical if you think about it. Turret has been minimalized to have as low a profile as possible by having the guns mounted on the side of the turret instead of housing it within the turret. And by doing so, if we make some assumptions, this allows them to mount even more guns on the other side of the turret(when I saw the 12 barrels on that MAX minigun, 4 tank guns on a single Prowler wouldn't surprise me). I would assume if they did this, it would either be a AI, AA, AA attachment akin to the way a Vannie gunner could switch between it's big gun and it's machine gun, or another 2 tank cannons if they had a dedicated gunner.

If that is how it works, the Prowler would probably be the coolest tank in this game. :D

[sylphaen]

Hi Ejaz and welcome to the forums !
:)

Did you have a chance to try them during the GDC expo ? The mags looked really slow too.

[moosepoop]

i think the profile of the prowler allows it to shoot from corners, which the other tanks cant.

[Ejaz]

Hi Ejaz and welcome to the forums !
:)


Thanks!

[sylphaen]

Thanks!

I'm part of the QA team for Planetside 2. (Test for bugs, performance, etc etc..)

Great ! Thanks for participating around here.
:)

Hamma will likely get in touch with you soon to grant you the special dev color status (he usually validates identities first).

Now one very very crucial question: VS/TR/NC ???
:D

[Ejaz]

Great ! Thanks for participating around here.
:)

Hamma will likely get in touch with you soon to grant you the special dev color status (he usually validates identities first).

Now one very very crucial question: VS/TR/NC ???
:D

Thanks!

[BorisBlade]

And best of all - no tank can run from a prowler (except maybe a mag over a river). Speed means you can dictate engagements, and that's a poweful advantage in its own right. It can outrun the other tanks, which means it can escape and nothing can escape it.


That actually depends on if the speed differences are actually meaningful this time. they were only 3mph/5kph apart in ps1 which was completely meaningless. Even if you double that to 6mph/10kph its still meaningless. Run around in a a marauder and you quickly find that you have no real speed advantage versus a magrider. You are dead a zillion years before you can get enough distance with that negligable speed difference.

You need a bare minimum of a 30% difference before its even noticeable (even that isnt much) and you wont see anywhere near that difference between two vehicles of the same class esp since if they do it like ps1 you end up with 60% difference between the fastest and slowest tank. (for comparison thats only a 15kph boost over a 50kph tank for the 30% boost) Most likely we will see another cosmetic and pointless 5-10kph (3-6 mph) difference as the final number for only a 10-20 difference between slowest and fastest. *snore*

Which means the "speed advantage" tr would have would all be a complete load of BS. And so comparing it to real life faster tanks which can go massively faster than other tanks, and not a measly 3mph but 40+, just makes no sense at all. Realism and game balance dont mix in the slightest. You wont see variety in tanks like that, not when your empire is stuck with only that tank and you have to balance them versus each other in a variety of situations.

[Xyntech]

Why dont you put another 2 gun barrels on the "Right" side to make it symetrical with the left... I could learn to love a 4 barrel tank >: )

I am hoping that this is what happens when the Prowler has a dedicated gunner controlling the main gun.

Prowler = 4 barreled main gun

Vanguard = even more ridiculous looking and even bigger main gun

Magrider = slightly bigger main gun on a turret on the top

[Malorn]

That actually depends on if the speed differences are actually meaningful this time.

When asked how much faster the Prowler will be than the other two tanks, Kevmo said this via Twitter:
@psucom @planetside2 Still tuning so can't say for sure, but want it to be noticeably faster, but still slower than a lightning.


He also said that TR had the weakest armor - at least for the Mosquito. Speed in aircraft may be a lot bigger advantage than for tanks.

[MGP]

And best of all - no tank can run from a prowler (except maybe a mag over a river). Speed means you can dictate engagements, and that's a poweful advantage in its own right. It can outrun the other tanks, which means it can escape and nothing can escape it.
Lol. Who would want to run away from prowler? It has inferior armor and weapons. I'd simply blow this tin-can up.
On the other side - prowler drivers could use that extra speed, because all they will do on the battlefield, is trying to run away from other empire's MBTs. :D

[Nax]

If only they could center the barrels. :(

[Raka Maru]

I think it looks bbbbbaaaaadasssss!!! (my first thought when I saw this latest pic)

Can't wait to blow things up with it. Reminds me of my custom lowered jeep, except with dual cannons. :D

Devs, you went the right way with this. Hope we get to keep the paint chips and bullet holes again as an option. Call it battle scars, I would buy that in the cash shop.

Anxious to know all the customization this baby can take too...

[Malorn]

I'd like to know what is meant by the prowler having extra weapon systems above and beyond the other empires that was expressed in the TR empire brief. What are these extra weapon systems and how do they tie in with the other systems? We know it's a 2-man tank so I don't think they're referring to a 3rd gunner.

[Stew]

Big bridge alert Combat incoming !!

[MrBloodworth]

Why does it look like its got a modern mounted machine gun on it?

I thought this was Plantside.

[Saieno]

Why does it look like its got a modern mounted machine gun on it?

I thought this was Plantside.

If it works and its extremely affordable to produce, why not use it? We can customize and upgrade the weapons over time. Have to start somewhere. :cool:

[Doctor Digit]

Really like the profile of the new prowler. I know I've got my BF3 mates interested hardcore into this game and can't wait to run a hunter-killer group of 10 or so prowlers. By far the sexiest looking tank of the three I think. Though that just might be my TR pride talking. I know it might be a bit silly, but I actually would love the idea of a command seat in the tanks too, for the commanders who specialize deep enough into it. Have one command tank with 6 or 7 other friendly tanks that gives them a small repair bonus and boost in spotting range. That sorta deal.

[Purple]

i like the offset guns.

[sylphaen]

This thread shows a very interesting aspect of TR players personality: an obsessive-compulsive fixation about order and squareness.

This non-symmetrical turret for the main tank of a control-freak magnet faction must be the largest troll by a game dev, ever. WP Higby !
:p

[Grognard]

This thread shows a very interesting aspect of TR players personality: an obsessive-compulsive fixation about order and squareness.

This non-symmetrical turret for the main tank of a control-freak magnet faction must be the largest troll by a game dev, ever. WP Higby !
:p

Sylphaen, I'm not sure that our best Vanu technology flame retardant suits can resist the fire comming your way, now... :lol:

[sylphaen]

Sylphaen, I'm not sure that our best Vanu technology flame retardant suits can resist the fire comming your way, now... :lol:

I have faith in Vanu !
:angel:

And so far, so good.
:cheers:

[Raka Maru]

This thread shows a very interesting aspect of TR players personality: an obsessive-compulsive fixation about order and squareness.

This non-symmetrical turret for the main tank of a control-freak magnet faction must be the largest troll by a game dev, ever. WP Higby !
:p

As I said earlier, it's bad t da bone. :D

I hope it can do both alternate/dual shots, this will increase ROF when the big guns alternate, and switch to double barrel shot when zeroed in. Having them off to the side will make you feel like the predator with shoulder mounted tri lasers when you shoot those bad boys.

Squared away is all about being a professional soldier! Dude! :)

And WP Higby!

[millo]

Why are a lot of people saying that the prowler is going to have weaker weapons compared to vanguards? Didn't the devs state that TR vehicles had the most firepower and speed, but lower armor?
I think the vanguard is just going to have the biggest single shot, but lower overall DPS against the prowler, just like in PS1. Actually, high dps and mobility seems like an intresting combo.
Also, maybe it's not just the top speed being different, but also the way the tank accelerates. If you ride motorbikes (I know, oranges and apples :D), you know that on narrow and twisty roads having a lot of torque is better than a shitload of top speed... The same could apply in close quarter combat where you have some way to get your tank behind cover.

[Malorn]

Why are a lot of people saying that the prowler is going to have weaker weapons compared to vanguards?
When people say they are "weaker" they are referring to per-shot damage, not dps. I expect DPS will be significantly higher on the Prowler.