Should terrain and trees have a kill count?

[Neurotoxin]

Hello everybody!

So I'm sure many PlanetSide veterans recall all the hilarious times when trees or terrain destroyed the vehicle you were piloting or gunning. Trees alone probably had more kills than any single outfit, and the rest of the terrain probably had up to 5% of all total kills (or causes of death) in the game.

Does anyone else think that terrain and different types of permanent objects (trees, base walls, water, etc) should have their own individual kill-count?

[RNFB]

There should be detailed environment-kill statistics, like how many of each aircraft has died because of crashing into something and where it happened.

[Atheosim]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So much awesome.

[Talek Krell]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So much awesome.^This is an accurate summary of my feeling on this subject.

They should also have XP, and whenever they level it makes a little trumpet noise and light show.

[sylphaen]

Epic idea.
:lol:

Edit: it just reminded me being killed by slopes when the lightning was still bugged. That bug made me crazy.

[Biohazard]

YES! They also need to be included in players "Killed by: " statistic, and kill spam. :lol:

[FredTomson]

That's a really great idea. I like when games release statistics about what people have done, particularly asinine statistics. Having access to statistics about environmental deaths would be hilarious.

Also if where/how is released as well it would only add to the "I saw that!" and "I did that too!" experience that is so uniquely Planetside.

[SniperSteve]

I don't think it is something that can easily be done from the technical standpoint.

[Tapman]

I think that it would be cool to see statistics about terrain that can help define certain territories as high-risk areas that skilled pilots can test themselves on.

Every bullet is going to be tracked in this game, and each bit of damage as well. When damage occurs without the influence of a bullet, it is credited to the terrain of the area. No need to separate trees from rocks, the environments should speak for themselves.

[cellinaire]

Fantastic =)



I hope every rocks in Auraxis have their eyes and arms also
/giggle

[headcrab13]

Inconspicuous Tree: "Yeah my K/D is pretty decent this week, I'm right around 1,572 and 0."

[Blackwolf]

^This is an accurate summary of my feeling on this subject.

They should also have XP, and whenever they level it makes a little trumpet noise and light show.

I want to see the rock say "ding" with a chat bubble and everything.

I think it would be awesome if the DEVs or GMs kept an eye on those statistics, and named certain regions/trees/rocks/slopes that cause a set number of deaths within a given time frame.

Could you imagine having an actual deadman's curve in the game? So named because a tank battle was fought at a bend in the road next to a cliff and several tanks fell off?

[That one noob]

Assuming we can drown again like last game, I'm fairly certain the water, trees, and gravity are going to be among the top 15 killers during beta if all things go hilariously right with bugs and glitches.

[Pollo Jack]

I am genuinely interested in which vehicles from which empires crash more.

[Xyntech]

Can we get trees to have taunts that they spam when they kill you?

[Wargrim]

This is a genious idea. :D

Walking up to a tree with some diagnostics tool, and seeing that xxx numer of airplanes have died by crashing into it would be awesome.

[Nax]

I sure their tracking system will keep track of awesome stuff like that.

[PantherModern]

Can we get trees to have taunts that they spam when they kill you?

Yes, and it should be called tree-bagging.

[Ertwin]

While I'm all for the statistics for enviromental death, I think taunts and level up beeps are going a bit overboard.

[DayOne]

While I'm all for the statistics for enviromental death, I think taunts and level up beeps are going a bit overboard.

Nope.

Perfectly reasonable.

[Captain1nsaneo]

I think this would be awesome but it needs to not clutter up the killspam window. Putting the statistic online alongside how many air kills etc would be great.

[Malorn]

[High Explosive Mine] would put everyone to shame.

[Captain1nsaneo]

[High Explosive Mine] would put everyone to shame.

I don't know, [Orbital_Strike_Big] is up there.

[ITOS]

Can we get trees to have taunts that they spam when they kill you?

"You barked up the wrong tree!"

Come on! Bring the puns!

[Talek Krell]

Eventually we could have some of these.
Just Cause 2: Official The Art of Dying Trailer

"You barked up the wrong tree!"
"Maybe you should try infantry work? You know, branch out a bit?"

[That one noob]

"You barked up the wrong tree!"

Come on! Bring the puns!

"Oh I am sorry little man, guess you didn't have the wood to face me!"

"Guess you got STUMPED huh soldier boy?"

[Malorn]

"Oh I am sorry little man, guess you didn't have the wood to face me!"

"Guess you got STUMPED huh soldier boy?"

I think if the tree said "Your best is my worst" I'd be depressed.

On the puns side...

"Your skill leaves something to be desired!"

"Face-plant!"

"Face-palm" (on desert palm trees)

"Incoming PLANT units!"

[Kipper]

You can bet your ass that SOE will have this internally - this is part of what beta is for, to collect masses of data on how real (non-dev-with-insider-info) people play the game and to use that to ensure that no vehicle/gun has any unintended advantage against any other.

Any stat that doesn't provide a gameplay advantage to someone by knowing it, should be published imo. (Which I guess means NO to 'world' gun vs gun stats, but personal ones, yeah).

[Shogun]

"You barked up the wrong tree!"

Come on! Bring the puns!

"like i said, my head is a little harder than yours! now make like a me and leave!"

"having problems with morning wood?"

and stones will taunt like "we will we will rock you!"

[Sledgecrushr]

Can we get trees to have taunts that they spam when they kill you?

We dont need trees acting like a 12 year old with ADD screaming "YOURE MY BITCH" whenever you crash into it.

[Fenrod]

"having problems with morning wood?"

Hell, yeah. I'd like that, it woud be epic :D.

[Lokster]

I support this idea ...

Hilarious topic for sure.

[Xyntech]

We dont need trees acting like a 12 year old with ADD screaming "YOURE MY BITCH" whenever you crash into it.

Don't we?

"My bite is worse than my bark!"

"You're stumped"

"Make like a tree and get out of here"

[FastAndFree]

"Go ahead, try again. On the count of tree..."

"Which branch were you in, again?"

"Couldn't see the forest for the trees?"

"My trunk is better than yours"

"Stop pining"

"Timber! Oh, never mind. Do you want to try again?"

+1
"You've gotta try harder than that." In that voice.

[Cosmical]

Haha. Reminds me of playing Asherons Call. When enemies could earn EXP and level, and we used to spend hours getting killed by a bunny rabbit to see how high we could get it to level.

[Stardouser]

Haha. Reminds me of playing Asherons Call. When enemies could earn EXP and level, and we used to spend hours getting killed by a bunny rabbit to see how high we could get it to level.

You know, as a side joke in some of your comics you could have trees that aren't really relevant to the comic that have a number listed on them...

[Geist]

Haha. Reminds me of playing Asherons Call. When enemies could earn EXP and level, and we used to spend hours getting killed by a bunny rabbit to see how high we could get it to level.

Okay, now I want killer rabbits. I'd love to see an enemy force driving through a cannon, a shout of 'RELEASE THE BUNNIES!', and the outline of a cute bunny spamming chat with it's kills. :P

Also,

"I guess you could say you... barked up the wrong tree."
"YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!"


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[Ailos]

+1000000000

This kind of a statistic would be an awesome thing to go back to when one is bored. And even though the physics are better this time 'round, the fact that any crashes that did happen, happen realistically makes it even more epic.

[Purple]

best idea ever. if the game had this in it i wouldn't care if they took out the guns!

[The Janitor]

Arbor Day Planetside 2 event: Devs spawn trees everywhere and they call out taunts when players die near them. The taunts become more vicious if the tree is actually responsible for the death. At the end of the event, we get the statistics of how many players died to trees, as well as other objects people aren't supposed to get killed by.

Make the trees declare they are the 4th faction, come to take Auraxis from the humans. :D

[Rbstr]

I don't think it is something that can easily be done from the technical standpoint.

Death concentration by location should be easily doable as well as recording what did the damage.

So, perhaps not individual trees but you could see a large concentration of environment deaths centered on a particular tree.

[cellinaire]

Haha. Reminds me of playing Asherons Call. When enemies could earn EXP and level, and we used to spend hours getting killed by a bunny rabbit to see how high we could get it to level.

I remember there was also an epic white rabbit(I mean, the same 'Pooky') in AC2. I thoroughly enjoyed playing AC2 while it lasted :D




(and you guys should play Might and Magic 6-7 sometimes. You can get hit by a tree or boulder. /evil grin )

[Xyntech]

You know, as a side joke in some of your comics you could have trees that aren't really relevant to the comic that have a number listed on them...

I'd love to see a comic where the trees gang up to crush all three empires.

Unspeakable carnage.

[Purple]

Arbor Day Planetside 2 event: Devs spawn trees everywhere and they call out taunts when players die near them. The taunts become more vicious if the tree is actually responsible for the death. At the end of the event, we get the statistics of how many players died to trees, as well as other objects people aren't supposed to get killed by.

Make the trees declare they are the 4th faction, come to take Auraxis from the humans. :D

there would be no survivors.

[Xaine]

The tree of eternal rage making.

[basti]

I don't think it is something that can easily be done from the technical standpoint.

It can be done, but it will add stress to both the server and the database. And it is quite some work.

The big question is: Can they add such a feature now without going over every single tree/bush/stone/whatever again? (to give each object its very own kill count).

Otherwise, just a general kill statistic showing where someone died, and by what. But then trees wont have kill counts, and cant gain BR and Cert points, to buy themself leaf sidegrades. :rofl:

[Captain1nsaneo]

Plant growth is affected by how many people die near to it? FEED ME SEYMOUR!

[That one noob]

Plant growth is affected by how many people die near to it? FEED ME SEYMOUR!

You do realize that there is gonna be that one tree that is going to be bigger than the biggest Bio-Lab because everyone is gonna crash into it, right?

[Machine]

Environmental deaths should be counted and what class/vehicle. I wouldn't go so far as to say what tree but a grid xyz coordinate system being included and time would be cool because a heat map over time... even over years would be awesome to mine for data and see how many cloakers died in front of consoles, baddie reavers crashing into roads, and maxes dying in water... if water still kills the same.

[Talek Krell]

Otherwise, just a general kill statistic showing where someone died, and by what. But then trees wont have kill counts, and cant gain BR and Cert points, to buy themself leaf sidegrades. :rofl:That's the most I'd go for. I'd love to see Ishundar rendered as an impact death point cloud like they did for Just Cause 2. Sure, the trees will complain about imbalance but they're trees, what are they gonna do? Leaf?

[Purple]

it would be an OP killing machine if we cold somehow clock a tree. not to mention very fun... flying along and suddenly a tree.

[Erendil]

This idea is pure win, if for no other reason than to constantly see "Tree" in the #1 slot on the Leaderboards. :D

[PeteHMB]

I think that it would be cool to see statistics about terrain that can help define certain territories as high-risk areas that skilled pilots can test themselves on.

Every bullet is going to be tracked in this game, and each bit of damage as well. When damage occurs without the influence of a bullet, it is credited to the terrain of the area. No need to separate trees from rocks, the environments should speak for themselves.

One of the Devs, I forget who, already stated in one interview that they've designed a specific portion of the testing area to be an ATV track with lots of jumps. I wonder if we could get them to build a piloting course to race mosquito vs mosquito or mossy vs reaver around...either something with floating rings ala Starfox, or a canyon run. Major bonus points if they make a trench run...

[Raymac]

One of the Devs, I forget who, already stated in one interview that they've designed a specific portion of the testing area to be an ATV track with lots of jumps. I wonder if we could get them to build a piloting course to race mosquito vs mosquito or mossy vs reaver around...either something with floating rings ala Starfox, or a canyon run. Major bonus points if they make a trench run...

I'd love that too. I don't know how many times I ran the Ishundar trench run just for the hell of it.

[Shogun]

You do realize that there is gonna be that one tree that is going to be bigger than the biggest Bio-Lab because everyone is gonna crash into it, right?

yes, and when outfitbases finally make it into the game the NC will build their biggest outpost in the branches of this tree! it should be big enough by then...

want it!

[Shogun]

One of the Devs, I forget who, already stated in one interview that they've designed a specific portion of the testing area to be an ATV track with lots of jumps. I wonder if we could get them to build a piloting course to race mosquito vs mosquito or mossy vs reaver around...either something with floating rings ala Starfox, or a canyon run. Major bonus points if they make a trench run...

floating rings wouldn´t fit into the game, but a strange formation of canyons with holes in them would do the job for sure!
or if on the city continent with ruined big buildings, the ruins could deliver such a course.

[Neurotoxin]

Seems like a heat map of terrain-based deaths should be pretty easy to set up. Within that, maybe players will be able to set and share waypoints or map markers indicating where deadly trees oand slopes are at...

[onwee]

Seems like a heat map of terrain-based deaths should be pretty easy to set up. Within that, maybe players will be able to set and share waypoints or map markers indicating where deadly trees oand slopes are at...

I like the heatmap idea. Instead of combat icons like before you could look at a heatmap that gives stats on combat deaths, player population (your faction only), or other useful statistics.

[KiddParK]

I like the heatmap idea. Instead of combat icons like before you could look at a heatmap that gives stats on combat deaths, player population (your faction only), or other useful statistics.

that would be nice.

[Marinealver]

Spitfire Turret used to have the most kills second only to High Explosive Mine

Me I say Nerf the Trees, make it so you can burn or break emdown.