PDA

View Full Version : 3 way battles


Toppopia
2012-04-21, 07:51 PM
I have been wondering this for a while but will it be easy to end up with all 3 factions fighting each other? Like TR and NC are fighting over a base then VS attacks from behind and wipes out one faction, and if this is possible then will it be possible to communicate with other factions so if commanders see a massive force advancing then the 2 factions can team up temporarily to fight the newcomers.

The Kush
2012-04-21, 07:56 PM
Yes (3 way battles) it happened in the original planetside and it will happen in this game. Those are some of my favorite fights! As far as talking to opposing commanders to make alliances, no that ability will not be part of the game. Now that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, sometimes it is in the best interest of two factions to attack the third faction and not each other (usually when the third faction is the largest) but as far as any game regulated alliances between two different factions absolutely not. And anyways once you are part of an empire (at least if your not a faction switching b****) you would rather die then help any side haha

Grognard
2012-04-21, 07:58 PM
I have been wondering this for a while but will it be easy to end up with all 3 factions fighting each other? Like TR and NC are fighting over a base then VS attacks from behind and wipes out one faction, and if this is possible then will it be possible to communicate with other factions so if commanders see a massive force advancing then the 2 factions can team up temporarily to fight the newcomers.

Well if PS1 is any indication, and in this context I think it is... there will be lots of three-ways. I'd even call it a regular thing... if not the norm. Maybe you will not be in one, but there will be one going on...

About the faction communication, my guess is yes, but Im not too sure how they are doing cross-faction communication yet.


Edit: I just noticed the "alliance" word come up, and I agree, I think that will be rare for cross-faction communication.

bigcracker
2012-04-21, 08:17 PM
Many times in PS1 i would run into a squad of TR, kill them and around the next corner run into the NC.

XPquant
2012-04-21, 08:29 PM
Back in the original planetside the VS was the defacto third wheel. Seems like everytime we got a good battle going with the NC the VS would come in for the DP. I don't think that's going to change.

Artimus
2012-04-21, 08:36 PM
Were you able to communicate with other factions using the /tell command in ps1?

EVILPIG
2012-04-21, 08:36 PM
The real question is, how often will 2 way battles happen?

Goku
2012-04-21, 09:15 PM
Were you able to communicate with other factions using the /tell command in ps1?

Yes. Hate tells will be great in PS2 :D.

Sabrak
2012-04-21, 09:49 PM
Actually, since there is the new hex system, and the ability to capture any base on the map at any time, I'm really wondering if there will be many 3-way battles.

In PS1 3-ways would mostly happen when you didn't really have a choice: an empire needed to go through that one base with a fight already going on to be able to take the rest of the continent.
In PS2, you could just walk around and capture something else.

But maybe there are some hexes that everyone will want and/or need, which might solve the problem.

Grognard
2012-04-21, 10:02 PM
Yes. Hate tells will be great in PS2 :D.

Haha, you are an evil man, Goku :D

Purple
2012-04-21, 10:49 PM
although individual outfits can decide to team up with another faction for a bit they will not be able to control the zerg. the zerg will always shoot the other side.

Blackwolf
2012-04-22, 11:49 AM
Back in the original planetside the VS was the defacto third wheel. Seems like everytime we got a good battle going with the NC the VS would come in for the DP. I don't think that's going to change.

VS could say (and have said) the same thing about TR. Chances are the only times you "got good fights going" with the NC is because you rear ended the VS who were there first.

But seriously the problem was in the very small populations. It was rare to see more then one continent pop locked. Why should one faction or the other stay out of a promising fight when that's the only fight to be had in a game centered around fighting?

Jamini
2012-04-22, 12:57 PM
VS could say (and have said) the same thing about TR. Chances are the only times you "got good fights going" with the NC is because you rear ended the VS who were there first.

But seriously the problem was in the very small populations. It was rare to see more then one continent pop locked. Why should one faction or the other stay out of a promising fight when that's the only fight to be had in a game centered around fighting?

As a longtime NC player I'd like to point out, at least on emerald, that the TR were much more likely to fight us in a straight-up fight than the VS. The VS-Emerald players tended to prefer backhacking and harassing over outright invasions unless they had a three-to-one advantage or more. At least, that how it was in my experience.

bigcracker
2012-04-22, 01:11 PM
As a longtime NC player I'd like to point out, at least on emerald, that the TR were much more likely to fight us in a straight-up fight than the VS. The VS-Emerald players tended to prefer backhacking and harassing over outright invasions unless they had a three-to-one advantage or more. At least, that how it was in my experience.

Tactics for the win! :D:vsrocks:

Xyntech
2012-04-22, 01:59 PM
Back in ye olden days of Johari, I recall that NC were the primary enemy of both the VS and TR. NC had a slight population advantage more often than the other two and used it to attack head long. I don't recall the VS being as bad as the TR about back hacking, and generally we would back hack the NC while they fought with the TR, while the TR tended to be douches and backhack us while we fought the NC.

For the most part, all three sides used to put up great fights in general. Back when populations allowed for multiple continents to be pop locked. Back when Cyssor was pop locked pretty much 24/7 and yet there were STILL battles raging for control of other continents.

That one noob
2012-04-22, 04:26 PM
As a longtime NC player I'd like to point out, at least on emerald, that the TR were much more likely to fight us in a straight-up fight than the VS. The VS-Emerald players tended to prefer backhacking and harassing over outright invasions unless they had a three-to-one advantage or more. At least, that how it was in my experience.

That was the fun thing about being VS in Emerald, instigating wars in a random cont as an infil, then being chased around a base by a Darklight-using MAX until the troops started pouring in for whatever reason. I remember starting a war in both Forestal and Hossin doing this tactic, and we took both for 2 days before losing them.

Good times.

headcrab13
2012-04-22, 08:15 PM
There's nothing like being in a near-stalemate with another faction when suddenly the third faction shows up and just starts wrecking your enemies. Or even better, when you're holding a tower against the onslaught of both enemy empires.

It's one of the many unique things about Planetside that make it truly great.

Mastachief
2012-04-22, 08:41 PM
With every part of the map open to attack it will be manic in the early days of beta until groups/alliances form and command structure builds.

It is reasonable tactic to say NC gal drop a VS hack on a TR base to help the TR resecure as to then delay the VS in their progress to another base/continent that the nc are not ready for yet, tactics don't always have to follow the zerg mentality.

Artimus
2012-04-24, 09:01 PM
Are you going to be able to cont. hop via warpgate? (connecting conts. with warpgate links) Or is it strictly were you own territory?

Vanir
2012-04-24, 09:37 PM
Are you going to be able to cont. hop via warpgate? (connecting conts. with warpgate links) Or is it strictly were you own territory?

The cont's will be connected and you can use the warpgate to get to any of them.

Malorn
2012-04-25, 10:59 AM
Back in the original planetside the VS was the defacto third wheel. Seems like everytime we got a good battle going with the NC the VS would come in for the DP. I don't think that's going to change.

I saw a lot of "I dont' want to fight VS" in command chat back in the day.

That was generally because NC and TR, when given the choice, preferred to fight each other rather than the frustrating bullshit that was the VS. Dealing with jumping AA MAX, sniping magriders, and lasher hallway spam wasn't particularly fun.

Marinealver
2012-04-25, 11:10 AM
People will be drawn to combat like moths to a flame, not to mention that the new Instant Action will do exactly that, but if there is a fight on a cont it is easier to take a part of it that no one is fighting over and get your own foothold, rather than invade a locked contenant and risk drawing the undevided attention of the controling empire to quickly shut you out.