Why I always play East Coast servers

[Was_Ash_Emerald]

Being in Austin, my ping is about the same to each coast, but I prefer the East Coast servers for all games for the following reasons:

1. 75% of the US/Canada population lives in the East and Central time zones. While servers are often full in the early months of any popular game, over time they dwindle and if the game becomes lower populated overall, the "lead" East Coast servers will become significantly more populated than the "lead" West Coast servers almost all the time.

2. Euros. European players who like to play overnight will often make an alt character on East Coast USA servers in order to be in bigger battles. Ping penalties aren't that severe from West and Central Europe.

3. Latin American players. A trend that's somewhat recent, but there are a lot of gamers these days from Brazil especially. Internet routing comes up through Miami, and thus favors EC servers.

4. Maturity. I don't what it is, but East Coast players are somewhat less juvenile that West Coast players. I don't know why that is, but I've observed this trend in numerous games going back to Ultima Online.

[NCLynx]

I've actually never seen someone explain differences they've seen between the two types of servers. Kind of interesting, I guess it's not to surprising that they would be noticeably different.

[WiteBeam]

1, 2, and 3 all make perfect sense.
No one can argue with number 4.

[Atheosim]

Don't really understand 4, but 123 seems reasonable. I live on the furthest reaches of the west coast so I'm sort of doomed to stay here in terms of server choice.

[SKYeXile]

You missed the points that Mexicans get a better ping to west coaster servers along with Oceanic players or was the point to leave them out? Also Eruo's are irreverent, they're given their own servers, they don't like it, they can find a better job, that also goes for anybody in the military complaining about not been able to play.

[WorldOfForms]

I played for years on Markov and Emerald (from beginning of PS through the merge) and I saw no difference between maturity levels.

There's a phenomenon called confirmation bias. Once you believe a certain group of people is a certain way, you'll cherry pick all behaviors that support that belief and conveniently forget anything that challenges the belief. Everybody does it, no one will admit to it.

[Brusi]

^this

There are complete fuckwits on both.

[Baneblade]

I don't think the maturity thing is correct. West Coasters just aren't as pretentious. We grew up throwing punches in lieu of arguing.

[Raka Maru]

Will have to stay on West coast because of Oceanic. Hoping they will someday adapt a universal ID to allow moving with your characters anywhere you want.

[Raka Maru]

I don't think the maturity thing is correct. West Coasters just aren't as pretentious. We grew up throwing punches in lieu of arguing.

Yes, childhood in L.A. can affect your outlook. ;) I know it did to me.

[Baneblade]

Yes, childhood in L.A. can affect your outlook. ;) I know it did to me.

Vegas, baby!

[The Kush]

This post is garbage. One person assuming and throwing out opinions like they are facts. I've never noticed any difference and I've been playing planetside since 2004.

[Raka Maru]

This post is garbage. One person assuming and throwing out opinions like they are facts. I've never noticed any difference and I've been playing planetside since 2004.

Yeah, stereotyping is never politically correct if we care about that sort of thing.

I do think he was stating his opinion, tho I don't agree with it either.

[Death2All]

This post is garbage. One person assuming and throwing out opinions like they are facts. I've never noticed any difference and I've been playing planetside since 2004.

Can't say I understand the point of the thread either. Whatever server you play on is your own business, not what the overall point of the thread was.

However what I really don't understand is the anger and jest I'm seeing coming from apparent West Coast players. Getting awful hifey for one guys opinion based off of his experience with playing on west coast servers over the past few years.

If being generalized and being called immature gets your panties in a bunch that bad I think you're in for a harsh reality check.

[Was_Ash_Emerald]

You missed the points that Mexicans get a better ping to west coaster servers along with Oceanic players or was the point to leave them out? Also Eruo's are irreverent, they're given their own servers, they don't like it, they can find a better job, that also goes for anybody in the military complaining about not been able to play.

I've not notice many Mexicans playing online games; Oceanic still gives 200ms+ solid pings, so, while they can "play" on the West Coast USA server, it's not great. Pings from UK to Washington DC are usually under 100ms.

[SKYeXile]

I've not notice many Mexicans playing online games; Oceanic still gives 200ms+ solid pings, so, while they can "play" on the West Coast USA server, it's not great. Pings from UK to Washington DC are usually under 100ms.

Cool, so then the UKs can ping 150 to US west(OR JUST PLAY ON THEIR OWN SERVERS) instead of Oceanics pinging 250 to US east.

[Was_Ash_Emerald]

Yeah, stereotyping is never politically correct if we care about that sort of thing.

I do think he was stating his opinion, tho I don't agree with it either.

Yeah, point #4 is my opinion. #1-#3 are facts.

About #4, it is, a mild trend at best. I think West Coast players tend to be slightly younger than East Coast players - and Europeans the oldest. That's just a hunch, and maybe not as true as it was some years ago.

[Reginald]

Why I will only play on west coast servers.
1. That's where I live.

[Raka Maru]

Was trying to push for universal ID's for these reasons (ping).

Lived in Texas, Florida, California, now in Hawaii (to name just a few). Would like to keep my characters without making new ones if ping gets bad or I move back to Texas or Florida.

Usually, I just endure the ping if my MMO characters are well established on their shards.

Asshats are everywhere regardless of region, so are good helpful people. I even ended up accidentally on servers where 90% spoke non-English I'm sure if I stayed and learned their language, there would have been good/bad folks there too.

I'm not offended, but I've also lived on both coasts. I can see how some would take offense to #4 from OP.

[ArcIyte]

Mexicans have internet?

edit: oh right evilpig

[Malorn]

Reason to play West coast servers - the action persists until late in the night.

East coast servers die off quickly as all the east coasters go to bed, but West Coast servers often live strong even until 5-7 am East-Coast time.

Even 3am east coast is just midnight west coast so if you're a late night player you've better off playing on West Coast servers.

West coast is obviously preferred for oceanic players as well. They help keep the action going 24/7.

[Sabot]

reason to pick EU server.... we're just so much better at war? ^^

nah, I'll prolly have an alt on east coast for when the battles die out on eu... did the same in PS1 and it worked great.
But for the record... both east and west have idiots, douchebags and noobs. And the eu server had it as well... you can never escape it.

[Zulthus]

There's no difference between the two. You're just cherry picking. Since they're "facts", please back them up with evidence.

[Rocknoise]

I'm a European evidence.
I had an alt on Emerald if Europe servers are down.
Mostly we had no problems to play on Werner in long nights.
Most time we stayed on Werner.

All my friends had an Alt on Emerald too.

#2 is absolutely reasonable and mostly a fact.

[BuzzCutPsycho]

Markov and Johari died before Emerald. In WoW the east coast battlegroups became "the place to be" after the west coast realms all died.

[headcrab13]

Why I will only play on west coast servers.
1. That's where I live.

Exactly. I like certain aspects of other server zones, but latency trumps all.

[Marinealver]

If they make more than 1 server I hope that they atleast allow us to jump from server to server.

[noxious]

I'll play wherever the Enclave plays. Internet connections are so fast these days that 3,000 miles doesn't make much of a difference.

[Malorn]

They should put all the NA servers in Dallas. It has a good ping to everywhere in NA. Then they dont need to divide the player base by time zone.

[The Kush]

They should put all the NA servers in Dallas. It has a good ping to everywhere in NA. Then they dont need to divide the player base by time zone.

Agreed but Colorado would be an even better choice (almost dead center on the map)

[Mr DeCastellac]

Why is this thread in 'Planetside 2 Discussion'? If anything, you're talking about your experience in PS1 (people playing on different servers for bigger battles, etc), but more likely it's overall gaming and servers, hence "Why I always blah blah blah"

[Top Sgt]

Interesting opposite for me regarding #4.

take apb reloaded for example.. I am in ohio but yet I play now only on west coast colby servers because the joker east coast server had so many more obvious hackers and griefers and basic immature douchbaggery imo.

Everyone has different experience..

[SKYeXile]

Markov and Johari died before Emerald. In WoW the east coast battlegroups became "the place to be" after the west coast realms all died.

Common misconception, Markov had more players online throughout the whole day compared to Emerald.

[Baneblade]

Emerald was very roller coaster with the pop near the end. Markov was much more stable even if it never reached the top end Emerald did.

[Figment]

Emerald was very roller coaster with the pop near the end. Markov was much more stable even if it never reached the top end Emerald did.

Whereas up until the server merge between the two somehow Werner had pops that were higher than both of those, according to Raijinn Werner even had higher pops than Markov and Emerald combined prior to the merger, which was why Werner was left out initialy. :/

Right after the merge however, Gemini was flooded by Wernerians just for higher total pops (and as others had said, because many had alts there anyway, making it easy to transfer), making it almost 4:1 in ratios (people left with us, people added to Gemini). Within a week, Gemini:Werner pop ratio declined to what, 6:1 and got progressively worse as Werner became too desolate to play almost over night. :/


It would make sense that Emerald had higher fluctuations, BECAUSE of the Euro players playing from significantly different time zones whereas the fast majority of Markovians played in the same timezone. The trans-atlantic time difference couldn't be more obvious.

[Baneblade]

Yeah, the mass exodus of Werner was a little silly imo. I remember logging in on the VS side with... nine VS players total online, we had 55% world pop.

[Roy Awesome]

I lol'd at #4 because it directly contradicts #1. If you have a more players, you simply have more immature players.

[Infektion]

I don't think the maturity thing is correct. West Coasters just aren't as pretentious. We grew up throwing punches in lieu of arguing.

lol LA ain't that hard dude, I live in Miami and when I hit up LA with my boy Danny and Raul, we walked up and down Crenshaw, partied all over the place at night and met all kinds of peeps, and to be honest, I've never seen so many idiots per square foot, than in LA.

[Atheosim]

lol LA ain't that hard dude, I live in Miami and when I hit up LA with my boy Danny and Raul, we walked up and down Crenshaw, partied all over the place at night and met all kinds of peeps, and to be honest, I've never seen so many idiots per square foot, than in LA.

rofl... every town ever has its group of idiots. you can't base the population of a city on the few people you and your dipshit friends met, especially not in one night, especially not in one area.

[SKYeXile]

Darkfate is from San Diego, are we to presume that everybody in San Diego is mentally retarded?

[Malorn]

Agreed but Colorado would be an even better choice (almost dead center on the map)

Dallas is a major internet hub. My pings to Dallas game servers from Seattle is nearly as good as local pings.

Chicago wouldn't be a bad option either. Good east coast pings, decent west coast too.

The whole east coast west coast thing is a waste when we can have a central server that provides well for everyone. Its an unnecessary player divide.

[Noivad]

:evil::evil:Being in Austin, my ping is about the same to each coast, but I prefer the East Coast servers for all games for the following reasons:

Note: He is talking about more then one game NOT just PS1.

1. 75% of the US/Canada population lives in the East and Central time zones. While servers are often full in the early months of any popular game, over time they dwindle and if the game becomes lower populated overall, the "lead" East Coast servers will become significantly more populated than the "lead" West Coast servers almost all the time.

Note: Fact Larger Populations a re distrubuted on the East Coast and NOT the west Coast NOT even counting Canada, central and south America.

United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density

Global:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density

2. Euros. European players who like to play overnight will often make an alt character on East Coast USA servers in order to be in bigger battles. Ping penalties aren't that severe from West and Central Europe.

NOTE: I played with a lot of Euros, and even Aussies, who have stated that their pings were better on the USA East Coast Server then on the Euro Server.

3. Latin American players. A trend that's somewhat recent, but there are a lot of gamers these days from Brazil especially. Internet routing comes up through Miami, and thus favors EC servers.

PS1 - I don't recall seeing to many people speaking spanish on. But in other games they are heavily populated during their prime times.

4. Maturity. I don't what it is, but East Coast players are somewhat less juvenile that West Coast players. I don't know why that is, but I've observed this trend in numerous games going back to Ultima Online.

Number 4 is easy, but there are two versions.

1st Everyone knows that you have to be crazy to live in a land that will fall off into the sea in some future earthquake. Ya kinda have to like being shook around alot to live there and definately need to learn how to swim.

2nd. Every ones knows that the west coast has a large populated state called California - see link above.

The Largest entitlement state in the USA is California with the highest
deficit - $23.3 millions projected 2012 shortfall.

People who think they are entitled to everything always act imature, unreasonable, and juvenile. There fore less mature. :evil:

Kinda like when a little kid does not get his way or what he wants when at the store. The tantrum - yes that it the tantrum.

Kinda like the VS and the NC are in Planetside. They don't like the TR way so they rebel. Like children they must be punished. Bad little NC bad little VS.

Nope that don't work guess we are gonna have to kill them in PS2.

[Bittermen]

I don't think the maturity thing is correct. West Coasters just aren't as pretentious. We grew up throwing punches in lieu of arguing.

smh

[Was_Ash_Emerald]

http://derbycitynaturals.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/measuring-tape.jpg

I know you want it.

I need you to hold it and translate cm to inches! ;)

[Kurtz]

Everyone knows Emerald was the shizz.

[Was_Ash_Emerald]

Everyone knows Emerald was the shizz.

^^ Speed step hacker. I haven't forgotten. You will die more. Soon. :)

[Baneblade]

Everyone knows Emerald was the shizz.

I remember people talking shit about Markov pilots and how they suck compared to Emerald pilots... well it was all propoganda.

Markov was party rockin surgile before it was cool.

[Kurtz]

^^ Speed step hacker. I haven't forgotten. You will die more. Soon. :)

That was ColKurtz on NC. I was TR. Had an NC alt.

[Tsunami]

...i prefer the east coast servers....

EAST COAST REPRESENT. That is all.

[capiqu]

Been playing for nine years and though I don't know how true it is I always remember hearing that Emerald was the most populated server.

[Flaropri]

Also Eruo's are irreverent, they're given their own servers, they don't like it, they can find a better job, that also goes for anybody in the military complaining about not been able to play.

Because everyone in the military has loads of options for changing employment at will. :rolleyes:

[OutlawDr]

I live in Houston, and I find people from Austin are weirder then people from other parts of Texas. I don't know why that is, but I've observed this trend in the 20+ years I've lived in Texas.

[QuantumMechanic]

My experience is that all countries (and all areas of countries) have their own fair share of both idiots as well as cool people. Geographic location doesn't trump basic human nature.

Oh, except for: XXXXXXXXXXXX (haha not gonna do it)