New Facebook page cover art

[Immigrant]

From PS2 facebook page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545570_405384866172797_28582729_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545570_405384866172797_28582729_n.jpg)

Edit: TR looks very cool as always. Sorry for the spelling mistake in the title.

[KTNApollo]

Goggles!

[SKYeXile]

BIGGER!!!!

[IMMentat]

If only the in game visors were defaulted to being clear like that.
http://www.facebook.com/PlanetSide2

#edit#
That vanu MAX looks like its getting ready to party, right after it turns the terran's head into a disco ball.

[Bags]

That's pretty damn sweet.

[Zulthus]

Please distribute a collector's edition on the shelves of retailers with that cover art. That would be amazing.

[Vashyo]

that TR is doing the good ole megaman US boxart-pose
http://i.somethingawful.com/u/ctstalker/2008_01/2008_01_12_megawhat.jpg

[DayOne]

I hope we can get clear visors. Even if it is a cash shop item!

[Dreamcast]

Wallpaper size plz.

[sylphaen]

Woa... :eek:

Wallpaper size available ?

[Immigrant]

BIGGER!!!!

Click view on the picture, I can't find a bigger version than that though.

[SKYeXile]

Click view on the picture, I can't find a bigger version than that though.

I wants high resolution for wallpaper :/

[Hamma]

Looks good!

I was unable to find the new logo in any press kits either

[DirtyBird]

The VS MAX reminds me of a Praying Mantis.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/62192273/VSbug.jpg

[roguy]

BIGGER please!

[Jennyboo]

Sexy! :brow:

[Kurtz]

we waited 10 years to get the exact same goggles?

[Graywolves]

we waited 10 years to get the exact same goggles?

I'm disapoint that the goggles aren't exactly the same, I want the eye socket sized blue goggles. They made me feel classy.

[Zekeen]

That looks so freaking incredible, and it feels like PS1 art!!!!

[NCLynx]

Looks awesome

[cBselfmonkey]

Ooooh. Thats sexy artwork right there.

[lMABl]

Wow...

[OnlinePirate]

I love it. It kind of feels like PS1 art.

[DirtyBird]

I love it. It kind of feels like PS1 art.

Well it is from Facebook, gotta keep it simple ;)

[MgFalcon]

That looks so freaking incredible, and it feels like PS1 art!!!!

At least this art is based on real things this time around. I remember feeling ripped off when I saw the art on the PS1 box thinking "ohh cool these bases look awesome! and look at the planes wicked cool!!"

http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1066412232-00.jpg
http://static.zenimax.com/bethblog/oldcontent/PlanetSide.jpg

Neither of those ever existed...

[DirtyBird]

Hope we can buy swords from the cash shop in PS2!

[ZeroOneZero]

TR: God, I'm such a badass.
NC: Damn TR douche bag.
VS: Shit! Why aren't my visors orange?

[FastAndFree]

Well, those planes could have been early Reaver or Mosquito concepts

[Immigrant]

Goggles!

Word, goggles FTW! I'd actually like that TR in-game eyewear looked more like this and less bug-style (that's Vanu trait). I hope they will lower the edges of the glasses to make it look more like this.

http://www.zaslike.com/files/3vriogj24h9n7v40dg.jpg (http://www.zaslike.com/)

Transparent glasses for visors and goggles would be great addition to cosmetic shop imo.

[Baron]

Original PS1 .... TR bring swords to a gun fight ...typical :p

[Alderego]

Do keep in mind that transparent materials are sometimes a bitch to render + it would require extra work to make faces: eyes, nose, eyebrows, etc

I do admit that they could then add those eyes/noses/whatnot as extra cash-options in the shop though. (dibs on the pink eye-patch)

[Immigrant]

Do keep in mind that transparent materials are sometimes a bitch to render + it would require extra work to make faces: eyes, nose, eyebrows, etc

I do admit that they could then add those eyes/noses/whatnot as extra cash-options in the shop though. (dibs on the pink eye-patch)

All vehicles will have transparent/semitransparent windows so I see no big deal with visors. Also PS1 had face selection, I doubt PS2 will take a step back and quite contrary I hope they'll make decent character creation available.

[Mod]

Most recent info suggests it is going to be a simple head selection again.

[Coreldan]

Reminds me of the BF3 box cover thingie. But much better! :D

[MercDT]

Wow, this looks fantastic! They need to put out a hi res version of this.

I'm hoping that they read this topic and add a transparent version to those visors.

[Sabrak]

This is fucking sexy....

Kinda old-school, but so sooooo awesome!

[Xyntech]

I hope we get a lot of customization options for goggle/visor tint, although after the loverator video, I have no doubt that we will.

Those transparent TR goggles are prefect, although for me it's all about the orange VS visors.

[Kato]

those Goggles

[Gullin]

Man, that looks awesome!

[kertvon]

Sweet pic. Is that space combat I see in the top left? I see a scythe, and a moon/Auraxis, but there appears to be a large structure exploding up there.

[Malorn]

I want to like this cover art, but something just keeps jumping out at me that I can't ignore...

Don't hate me for pointing this out, but the picture has a white guy TR in the middle being flanked and set upon by minority NC and VS.

I can't be the only one who sees that.

I understand the desire in this era to be all PC with ethnic representation but it seems like a poor choice to show the TR (the "oppressive tyrannical government") to be the white guy besieged by minorities. It seems to highlight ethnic differences between the empires and not the ideological differences that should be highlighted. Seems better if they were simply all the same ethnicity so the idea of racial differences doesn't even creep in there. It seems odd, unnecessary, and out of place to draw attention to that, even if the intent is to be fair in representation by showing each as different. The original PS1 art didn't appear to have ethnic distinction and that was just fine.

[Hmr85]

I want to like this cover art, but something just keeps jumping out at me that I can't ignore...

Don't hate me for pointing this out, but the picture has a white guy TR in the middle being flanked and set upon by minority NC and VS.

I can't be the only one who sees that.

I understand the desire in this era to be all PC with ethnic representation but it seems like a poor choice to show the TR (the "oppressive tyrannical government") to be the white guy besieged by minorities. It seems to highlight ethnic differences between the empires and not the ideological differences that should be highlighted. Seems better if they were simply all the same ethnicity so the idea of racial differences doesn't even creep in there. It seems odd, unnecessary, and out of place to draw attention to that, even if the intent is to be fair in representation by showing each as different. The original PS1 art didn't appear to have ethnic distinction and that was just fine.


Oh for the love of... Really??? You had to bring that shit into here... No I didn't see that when I looked at that art. All I saw was the awesomeness in it. Please grow the hell up.

[Atheosim]

I dunno Malorn, the TR guy looks rather Hispanic to me...

[Malorn]

Don't hate for pointing it out. This is a feedback thread. That's my feedback. I like the picture but don't like the implication that PlanetSide is a race war with TR as evil supremacists. The picture doesn't need to bring ethnicity into the mix but it does and I can't unsee it.

[Akemo]

Sweet pic. Is that space combat I see in the top left? I see a scythe, and a moon/Auraxis, but there appears to be a large structure exploding up there.

Ooh is it the death star? ;)

[Hmr85]

I'm not hating, its pathetic that's all. Sorry mods but you know its the truth.

Edit: Out of respect for Malorn. I removed the link.

[Malorn]

Some people can't handle a mature discussion. I'm not being disrespectful in my feedback, just honest.

[Hmr85]

As a person of ethnicity I don't see it. I personally wonder why you would even bring that up. If its a troll attempt its in poor taste also. It makes me wonder why you couldn't just be like " hey man it looks great or hey it looks bad" why was race even needed to be brought into it? Did it make you feel better as a result of posting it?

[Kurtz]

didnt the original have a puerto rican vanu girl straffing in front of a max? maybe I was just imagining it.

[Atheosim]

As a person of ethnicity I don't see it. I personally wonder why you would even bring that up. If its a troll attempt its in poor taste also. It makes me wonder why you couldn't just be like " hey man it looks great or hey it looks bad" why was race even needed to be brought into it? Did it make you feel better as a result of posting it?

It's feedback. It's an observation. It would have been no different had he said: "Oh look, there's a VS MAX in the picture. Interesting."

[ShadoViper]

I'm not hating, its pathetic that's all. Sorry mods but you know its the truth.

Billy Madison - Insanely Idiotic (Academic Decathlon) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU)
^^ i laughed pretty hard at that.

(sarcasm)Also, i just wanted to point out that this is offensive to African Americans because they are the only ones in a purple suit. this obviously means that all african americans are gay. (sarcasm)

Sorry champ. I dont see the "discussion". Personally, it just looks like a troll attempt.

[Hmr85]

It's feedback. It's an observation. It would have been no different had he said: "Oh look, there's a VS MAX in the picture. Interesting."

There is a slight difference between what you just put and what he put. If he put what you said I would of wondered on to the next topic.

If I hurt your feelings or pissed you off Malorn then I apologize. I just question why it was even needed in the first place. My link to youtube was probably a tad over the top. But I wanted to get my point across.

Back on topic. The artwork looks great. I think they did a awesome job. Where can I get that for a Wallpaper please :D

[Immigrant]

I want to like this cover art, but something just keeps jumping out at me that I can't ignore...

RACIAL BASED RANT

What is this, call for a political correctness? :rofl::rofl: Coming from an Enclave guy? :rofl::rofl:

I doubt devs had any "hidden" motives. They simply wanted to include all 3 major human races and since they have 3 factions/Empires each had to represent one one.

Next calling asians a minority is simply ignorant, maybe in your country but globally they are most numerous. Your conclusions are ridiculous, putting a asian (which is clearly chinese) as TR could be also interpreted as a critique and attack on People's Republic of China, putting a black TR could be interpreted as a critique of several authoritarian central-african governments etc. Your perspective isn't the only one, and world is not your backyard or neighborhood remember that before posting ridiculous claims like that.

p.s. btw TR aren't supremacist, we fight for order and unity of human race as a whole. Also if you have seen ingame screenshots there are plenty of black and asian TR guys.

[Atheosim]

What is this, call for a political correctness? :rofl::rofl: Coming from an Enclave guy? :rofl::rofl:

I doubt devs had any "hidden" motives. They simply wanted to include all 3 major human races and since they have 3 factions/Empires each had to represent one one.

Next calling asians a minority is simply ignorant, maybe in your country but globally they are most numerous. Your conclusions are ridiculous, putting a asian (which is clearly chinese) as TR could be also interpreted as a critique and attack on People's Republic of China, putting a black TR could be interpreted as a critique of several authoritarian central-african governments etc. Your perspective isn't the only one, and world is not your backyard or neighborhood remember that before posting ridiculous claims like that.

p.s. btw TR aren't supremacist, we fight for order and unity of human race as a whole. Also if you have seen ingame screenshots there are plenty of black and asian TR guys.


I'm very much in agreeance with this guy (Immigrant), but I still respect Malorn's interpretation of his observation. No need to flame him.

[Malorn]

As a person of ethnicity I don't see it. I personally wonder why you would even bring that up. If its a troll attempt its in poor taste also. It makes me wonder why you couldn't just be like " hey man it looks great or hey it looks bad" why was race even needed to be brought into it? Did it make you feel better as a result of posting it?

We are all people of ethnicity. I brought it up because it bothered me and I figured most people would be too afraid to risk touching on the subject.

How ethnicity is displayed in PS2 media is a valid subject and it affects how people view the game and the impressions they get. I've observed that the devs seem to have been quite explicit in displaying a multitude of ethnicities and seem to spread it around in a lot of screenshots showing the diversity of character options. In any given screenshot you can typically spot multiple ethnicities in the picture. It's very PC and I'm also quite sure it is intentional that they are spreading it around trying to avoid stereotyping the empires. However in doing so I think they may be drawing attention to something that was never really something of significance in PS1.

I like the diversity, but I think they do need to be careful in how certain pictures look when they choose to highlight ethnic differences in the empires. In this particular picture I see clear ethnic differences and have to wonder why they chose to put those in there. The picture is cool, but I think the ethnic distinctions distract from that coolness and end up conveying a different meaning to me than the one they intended. Thus, I'm voicing the concern.

Edit: I'm also not implying any sort of hidden motives by the devs or the artist. I never stated that. I think it's likely coincidence and that they were intending to showcase diversity in a fair way.

[Graywolves]

I don't think people are going to look into the art that much Malorn. Great attention to detail though. I would say that they did consciously attempt to add diversity into the image and so looking at it from that standpoint I would agree that it was a poor way to place that diversity.


But overall I don't find it to be that big of a deal, personally(from a consumer's perspective).

[Tim]

How else would you have them place it ?

[Malorn]

How else would you have them place it ?

I think it would be best not to place it at all in the picture. They can mask the features to the point where it isn't easy to tell at all what ethnicity the characters are. Or make them all the same ethnicity (pick one, doesn't matter). That removes ethnic distinction entirely.

Having them the same would also highlight that it is an ideological conflict, with brother fighting against brother civil-war style. Some of the fictional pieces from a while ago had that sort of feel with one of the TR guys writing about how his sister was converted into the vanu cult. That's a much more compelling story to me when families are split across empires.

[roguy]

Or make them all the same ethnicity (pick one, doesn't matter).


Well it kinda does matter, since it'll always be white so that the main demographic relates to the characters more.... Then ofc you'd have people claiming SOE are rascists for not including minorities and then the cycle repeats itself.

Don't believe? Check out the IMDB forums: Blah Blah James Bond is Marxist, Blah Blah Jar Jar Binks is rascist...

Wich is why I'll agree with Hmr85 and say that you're "oversensitive" and this discussion leads either nowhere or towards a flame war.

PS: The only reason I don't actually believe you're trolling is that you could be more offensive.

[ShadoViper]

I think it would be best not to place it at all in the picture. They can mask the features to the point where it isn't easy to tell at all what ethnicity the characters are. Or make them all the same ethnicity (pick one, doesn't matter). That removes ethnic distinction entirely.

Having them the same would also highlight that it is an ideological conflict, with brother fighting against brother civil-war style. Some of the fictional pieces from a while ago had that sort of feel with one of the TR guys writing about how his sister was converted into the vanu cult. That's a much more compelling story to me when families are split across empires.

Why does it matter? Seriously, why the fuck does it matter?

Dude i'm sorry but that's straight up asinine. If, by chance, we were stereotyping roles here and making someone of a particular race look negative, then yes. I agree. It's not, its a picture with three people. The fact that anyone is even trying to make an issue about this if ridiculous.

FYI A "Family" can have more than 1 skin color within it.

this. shouldn't. matter.

[Red Beard]

Why does it matter? Seriously, why the fuck does it matter?

Dude i'm sorry but that's straight up asinine. If, by chance, we were stereotyping roles here and making someone of a particular race look negative, then yes. I agree. It's not, its a picture with three people. The fact that anyone is even trying to make an issue about this if ridiculous.

FYI A "Family" can have more than 1 skin color within it.

this. shouldn't. matter.

^^This. Generally good posts Malorn, but this is taking PC to nonsensical proportions.

[roguy]

^^This. Generally good posts Malorn, but this is taking PC to nonsensical proportions.

^ yup

[Malorn]

I agree that it shouldn't matter, but if it doesn't matter why did they put it in the picture? If it wasn't there we wouldn't be talking about it.

[ShadoViper]

I agree that it shouldn't matter, but if it doesn't matter why did they put it in the picture? If it wasn't there we wouldn't be talking about it.

Perspective.

This question can work both ways, it has no "right" answer. only subjective personal opinions and a basis on the views of "our'" modern society.

[Xyntech]

That's ridiculous Malorn.

Clearly if they had intended the ethnicities to match up with the empires, the NC would be black to represent fighting for freedom and the VS would be asian to represent their alien-like math skills and love of robots. ;)

As it stands, VS are black because TRay is the stylish face of the Vanu Sovereignty. The other two are just arbitrary.

We seriously need beta soon. The discussions here are starting to fall apart.

[Malorn]

That's ridiculous Malorn.

Clearly if they had intended the ethnicities to match up with the empires, the NC would be black to represent fighting for freedom and the VS would be asian to represent their alien-like math skills and love of robots. ;)


You mean like these?

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/rjyhahnf/TR_1600x1200.jpg

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/rjyhahnf/NC_1600x1200.jpg

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/rjyhahnf/VS_1600x1200.jpg

I don't think they were intending to convey that but yeah. Its there.

[Xyntech]

You mean like these?

Pacific Islanders aren't traditionally the asians who people associate that stereotype with, so no. But nice job taking my post seriously and digging those up. I think you may have some pretty deep seated issues :)

[ShadoViper]

You mean like these?

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/rjyhahnf/TR_1600x1200.jpg

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/rjyhahnf/NC_1600x1200.jpg

http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/rjyhahnf/VS_1600x1200.jpg

I don't think they were intending to convey that but yeah. Its there.

Once again, if the entire faction was comprised of only a stereo type specific race, you might have a point.

Stop grasping at straws

Ps.
http://img.tapatalk.com/4ac696df-c971-16bf.jpg

[Geist]

Hmmm, I believe this thread is officially FUBARed. Might want to take this conversation to the Political Debate forum so the rest of us can appreciate something awesome(not saying anyone is wrong, but really, this is not the thread to discuss it in).

On Topic: If they release high rez versions, this will officially become my new wallpaper. I haven't been awed like this by box art(I assume it's box art) in a long time.

[Baron]

Where all the white women at?!?!?!

[Kurtz]

Clearly if they had intended the ethnicities to match up with the empires, the NC would be black to represent fighting for freedom and the VS would be asian to represent their alien-like math skills and love of robots. ;)


off the charts hilarity

[Khrusky]

As has been said, Malorn's comments are an observation, and he has every right to them. It seems to be the case that people like to criticise comments on whether or not something promotes discriminatory attitudes especially harshly.

For the record, I think that actually this picture is a good one of racial diversity, but it was totally uncalled for for everyone to start lambasting him for his opinion. We should always err on the side of protecting people from persecution, not denying it. A simple "I disagree" or "I think that's distinctly not the case" would have been fine, but not swearing and melodramatic exasperation. (to give credit where it's due, there have been a few well-proportioned responses)

You guys are total asses for being as harsh as you have been about this.

[Xyntech]

You guys are total asses for being as harsh as you have been about this.

Time place and circumstance man. It was kind of a stupid observation given the nature of the thread.

For example, I'm an atheist, but I understand that there are dickish times for me to make an issue out of god or religion. If I'm at a friends funeral, I'm not going to get up and talk about how the pastor was wrong and he's not in heaven, he's in a box which will be put in the ground to become worm food.

Obviously this thread is a more mild case than that example, but it's just a silly comment that Malorn made and it was uncalled for.

There is a lot of racism still lurking about, and it goes both ways. Some is politically acceptable racism, and that's sad.

I don't doubt that there was racial thought put into the image, wanting to make sure it's not just a bunch of white folk in the image, so I'm sure the diversity angle was slightly forced, but beyond that I think it's a stretch. As has been mentioned, you could find stereotypical reasons to put any of those ethnicities in any of the empires.

I'm all for freedom of speech. I don't think anyone is so rustled that they want anything crazy like Malorn to be banned for his comments. They really weren't that bad at all, just in poor taste. And really, that's what tempers freedom of speech. He has the right to make an observation, and I have the right to call it out as absurd and out of place.

It's also clearly derailed the thread. Never the mark of a good comment.

[bjorntju1]

So...

Is there a hi-res version of this?

[ShadoViper]

So...

Is there a hi-res version of this?

There really needs to be! My desktop background is really boring these days!

[Xyntech]

Morto! Enhance!

[Gullin]

So how about that picture?! For the record I'm white and I play NC! Just saying.

[ShadoViper]

Adds nothing to conversation and

http://img.tapatalk.com/3241140d-6b77-a2ee.jpg

Good work

[Dreamcast]

From PS2 facebook page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545570_405384866172797_28582729_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545570_405384866172797_28582729_n.jpg)

Edit: TR looks very cool as always. Sorry for the spelling mistake in the title.

WTF r u guys talking about....The guy in the middle is Latin American.....not white


So is not "minorities" vs whites like u guys are claiming.......



Planetside couldn't have done it more politcally correct all the pictures had different races representing different empires.