This SOE is what puts people off your games!

[EVILoHOMER]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/01/soemote-implants-your-facial-expressions-movement-and-voice-onto-your-eq2-avatar/


^ Please do not do this kind of marketing for Planetside 2!


http://youtu.be/MEMxSUGZ6TU


^ That is how you make a trailer, in fact Rockstar get their trailers perfect every time with these mini documentary like videos.

A creepy guy with eyes brows only a woman should have showing off lame features going into a game is not the way to do it. For example, your Korean video (I think it was) is not the way to get people excited, I doubt even they liked that video lol.



Come on SOE hire people who can market this game, even on Gamebreaker they were saying how SOE always has bad trailers. I mean watching the latest "This week in MMOs" episode, they just said how bad the music was in that massive air combat video.... I agree with them. I just don't understand why SOE never has their own original music in their trailers. I don't get how you can get away with showing off a trailer with spawned static tanks... it just looked really bad lol.

Funny thing is the guy from Gamebreaker said he shouldn't be excited for this game with all the bad trailers, but he still is. This is how I feel as well and it's only because we know what Planetside is, I cannot show people these videos and have them get excited. The only videos that have shown off well with friends are the TB ones on Youtube, so thank god for them lol.

[Envenom]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/01/soemote-implants-your-facial-expressions-movement-and-voice-onto-your-eq2-avatar/


Please do not do this kind of marketing for Planetside 2!


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEMxSUGZ6TU"]Red Dead Redemption Gameplay Introduction Trailer [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEMxSUGZ6TU)[/URL]

That is how you make a trailer, in fact Rockstar get their trailers perfect every time with these mini documentary like videos.

A creepy guy with eyes brows only a woman should have showing off lame features going into a game is not the way to do it. For example, your Korean video (I think it was) is not the way to get people excited, I doubt even they liked that video lol.



Come on SOE hire people who can market this game, even on Gamebreaker they were saying how SOE always has bad trailers. I mean watching the latest "This week in MMOs" episode, they just said how bad the music was in that massive air combat video.... I agree with them. I just don't understand why SOE never has their own original music in their trailers. I don't get how you can get away with showing off a trailer with spawned static tanks... it just looked really bad lol.

Funny thing is the guy from Gamebreaker said he shouldn't be excited for this game with all the bad trailers, but he still is. This is how I feel as well and it's only because we know what Planetside is, I cannot show people these videos and have them get excited. The only videos that have shown off well with friends are the TB ones on Youtube, so thank god for them lol.

Funny, this is one of my fav games of all time.

[EVILoHOMER]

I cannot stop that video from being embedded....

[Stardouser]

MMOs are a place where social interaction things are prized. Even an MMOFPS. Not everyone has to use them.

[Shott]

Why do people keep commenting on SOE's bad/nonexistent marketing for PS2?

The game isn't even in beta yet. There are PLENTY of people signed up/eligible for beta already, there is no need to market it any more than they already are. Once beta is nearly completion and the game has a solid launch date... THAT is when mainstream marketing should begin. There's no point in marketing the game now when people are just going to lose interest in <1month because the game hasn't launched yet.

That SOEmote thing is a novelty and, as far as I can tell, only for EQ2. SOE knows their market; EQ and EQ2 are still alive because of a dedicated fanbase that enjoy the lore and people who are hardcore roleplayers. You don't go to WoW if you're a roleplayer, you go to EQ2. SOEmote is for roleplayers.

Sure to us FPS fans it looks like total shit, but guess what: opinions are like assholes.

[psimonk]

Actually, what puts me off SOE games are horrible pricing schemes, and poor commitment to a coherent vision for any of their games. That video on the other hand I have no problem with, it's like any other dev vlog you would see from any other game, and the more communication from devs the better. It has no relation to a full blown trailer, which has been confirmed that PS2 will have either way.

[Khorneholio]

I'd love to have SOEmote in PS2. I remember one of the Rainbow Six games had a similar lip synch deal for online players and it was actually pretty cool. :)

[SpcFarlen]

Bright flashy explosions with no actual structure are what sells a game. Look at all Michel Bay films. Dev vlogs are there for.... development.

[Raymac]

I mean watching the latest "This week in MMOs" episode, they just said how bad the music was in that massive air combat video.... I agree with them.

Yeah, who's this Wagner hack? He's never going to make it. Plus it's a total rip off from that awesome Apocolypse Now music. :rolleyes:

[Brusi]

Ok, so SOEmote is cool. if you don't like that, then whatevs. Are you trying to say that the trailer for SOEmote is terrible?

I agree it's not attempting for mass appeal... it's quite targetted. If you are thinking that the trailer could benefit from a movie guy voice over, some explosions and boobs, then i think you are probably barking up the wrong tree. The target audience can probably relate better to guy in the clip anyway.

[JPalmer]

I'd love to have SOEmote in PS2. I remember one of the Rainbow Six games had a similar lip synch deal for online players and it was actually pretty cool. :)


I loved that.

[TrenchcoatNinja]

Yeah, who's this Wagner hack? He's never going to make it. Plus it's a total rip off from that awesome Apocolypse Now music. :rolleyes:

Many thanks for addressing this.

[bullet]

Ok, so SOEmote is cool. if you don't like that, then whatevs. Are you trying to say that the trailer for SOEmote is terrible?

I agree it's not attempting for mass appeal... it's quite targetted. If you are thinking that the trailer could benefit from a movie guy voice over, some explosions and boobs, then i think you are probably barking up the wrong tree. The target audience can probably relate better to guy in the clip anyway.

Maybe they could do an SOEmote thing with boobies. You have a camera pointing at your man boobs and when you jiggle them, your female avatars boobies start jiggling too. That would be sweet.

[KTNApollo]

I'd love to have SOEmote in PS2. I remember one of the Rainbow Six games had a similar lip synch deal for online players and it was actually pretty cool. :)

Nobody is going to look at your mouth moving in an FPS game, and if they are, they're probably gonna die really quick.

OT: This stuff isn't necessarily bad (for EQ2 anyways...diehard fans play that game and presumably they roleplay), but in an FPS it would be a total waste of resources.

[Stew]

whats is this guys who are a rockstar fanboys ?

Rockstar games have SHITTY TRAILERS the only reason why rockstar games are so popular is only because of rockstar GTA background and all nostalgia involved in it !

BTW i found this soe mote cool as hell for people who like MMO fantasie games !

If you want cool trailers at least do not take lame rock star ones as a exemple lol !

This shit is a cool trailers
Battlefield 3: Close Quarters Gameplay Premiere Trailer - YouTube

This is another cool ass trailers


Killzone 2 Multiplayer Trailer GC 2008 (HD) - YouTube

please i have enough of this Rockstar crap ! Rockstar trailers arent good at all and motion for rpg could be cool for MMO phantasie players

[cellinaire]

...remember when they added player 'wings' to EQ2..?

[Hamma]

What the hell is wrong with that video?

You guys do realize Mister David Georgeson who was featured in that video was one of the grandfathers of and Executive Producer of PlanetSide 1. (SmokeJumperPS)

Looks like a pretty badass technology to me although it probably would not fit in PS2. Would not hurt anything if it was.

Or are you just complaining about the video? I cant see any other way they could have done a trailer for this.

[Hermes]

What the hell is wrong with that video?

You guys do realize Mister David Georgeson who was featured in that video was one of the grandfathers of and Executive Producer of PlanetSide 1. (SmokeJumperPS)

Looks like a pretty badass technology to me although it probably would not fit in PS2. Would not hurt anything if it was.

Or are you just complaining about the video? I cant see any other way they could have done a trailer for this.

Stop typing my posts before I type them! :)

So uh yeah, what Hamma said.

[cellinaire]

What the hell is wrong with that video?

You guys do realize Mister David Georgeson who was featured in that video was one of the grandfathers of and Executive Producer of PlanetSide 1. (SmokeJumperPS)

Looks like a pretty badass technology to me although it probably would not fit in PS2. Would not hurt anything if it was.

Or are you just complaining about the video? I cant see any other way they could have done a trailer for this.

I recall, that he was once 'mr. Tribes'

once 'mr. Planetside'

once 'mr. Microtransaction'

and now he's the head of entire EQ franchise. ( 'mr. Everquest' )

I know he worked on more games prior to Tribes series, but just saying =)

[cellinaire]

Oh, never mind. Silly double post.

[Dreamcast]

All the trailer has to have is massive warfare...and some epic music in the background..and some words like 1000 players, 1 giant map,etc.



It should be quite simple actually IMO.

[bjorntju1]

My favorite game trailer to date is the Mass Effect 2 launch trailer: Mass Effect 2 Launch Trailer - YouTube

For PlanetSide 2 they just need to show some HUGE battles, and some epic music in the background like Dreamcast says. Showing of the different customizations etc.

[Crator]

Nobody is going to look at your mouth moving in an FPS game, and if they are, they're probably gonna die really quick.

OT: This stuff isn't necessarily bad (for EQ2 anyways...diehard fans play that game and presumably they roleplay), but in an FPS it would be a total waste of resources.

I disagree, you would definitely notice mouth movement in PS2 and it would immerse you more. Not like you're going to be staring at the avatar's mouth moving all the time but you will notice it.

SOEmote is very innovative and a great idea IMO! Good stuff SOE! The voice manipulator feature is really cool too.

[Gandhi]

I think a variation of CCP's Tyrannis trailer would be pretty cool, showing a single big battle from different viewpoints with quick little voice overs of each character describing his role in this particular fight.

[RSphil]

thats actually cool. but no good for this game. you'll never be close enough to see people faces ect. this is only tech that should be used for games that are heavy on RP or mmo's like WoW ect. for a fpsmmo it is a waste of time and resources.

could be fun on WoW though stood in the major city pulling faces or even just talking to your friends they would see your char's face moving aswell.

[Hamma]

I recall, that he was once 'mr. Tribes'

once 'mr. Planetside'

once 'mr. Microtransaction'

and now he's the head of entire EQ franchise. ( 'mr. Everquest' )

I know he worked on more games prior to Tribes series, but just saying =)

I know I am well aware of his gaming history. ;)

He is a visionary in the gaming industry. That's why he is on the EQ team now and why he was on PlanetSide previously. Tribes 2 is easily on of my favorite games of all time.

Regardless I just don't see how they could have release this feature in any other video format. :lol:

[The Kush]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/01/soemote-implants-your-facial-expressions-movement-and-voice-onto-your-eq2-avatar/


^ Please do not do this kind of marketing for Planetside 2!


http://youtu.be/MEMxSUGZ6TU


^ That is how you make a trailer, in fact Rockstar get their trailers perfect every time with these mini documentary like videos.

A creepy guy with eyes brows only a woman should have showing off lame features going into a game is not the way to do it. For example, your Korean video (I think it was) is not the way to get people excited, I doubt even they liked that video lol.



Come on SOE hire people who can market this game, even on Gamebreaker they were saying how SOE always has bad trailers. I mean watching the latest "This week in MMOs" episode, they just said how bad the music was in that massive air combat video.... I agree with them. I just don't understand why SOE never has their own original music in their trailers. I don't get how you can get away with showing off a trailer with spawned static tanks... it just looked really bad lol.

Funny thing is the guy from Gamebreaker said he shouldn't be excited for this game with all the bad trailers, but he still is. This is how I feel as well and it's only because we know what Planetside is, I cannot show people these videos and have them get excited. The only videos that have shown off well with friends are the TB ones on Youtube, so thank god for them lol.
Haters are going to hate. Let them.

That article is not about planetside.

And the music was fine for a video that probably took a couple hours. That's hype footage not a trailer.

[Marinealver]

So they are coppying what Blizzard does for Wow. Copycat SOE

[bigcracker]

Coolest videogame trailer even though I dont play console at all
Halo 3 : ODST Live Action Trailer (HQ) - YouTube


They should do a live action planetside 2 trailer :D

[Conq]

That SOEmote looks awesome, I don't know what's wrong with the OP. Maybe he has a motor neurone disease like Steven Hawking and is just sad he can't actually use the system.

[Gonefshn]

OMG I haven't laughed at an idea so much in a very long time.... going to show that video to my friend he will get a kick out of it. SOEmote.... not for me lol.

[Hermes]

OMG I haven't laughed at an idea so much in a very long time.... going to show that video to my friend he will get a kick out of it. SOEmote.... not for me lol.

If SOEmote was on now you would see me looking sad :(

Or at least a frog looking looking like me looking sad.

[Gonefshn]

If SOEmote was on now you would see me looking sad :(

Or at least a frog looking looking like me looking sad.

sad cause I don't like it?
It's definitely impressive though it looks like it still needs some work from the build of it in the video. If people want to play games like that go ahead but I think it looks hilarious thats a little too much RP for me.

[Bluecewe]

I really enjoyed Rockstar's Max Payne 3 trailers. They were put together pretty well.

Also, I believe a third-party was involved with the SOEmote software. It's mainly beneficial for role players, which many other SOE games have a lot of.

[Oryon22]

Haters be learners, we're making candy burgers.

[TrenchcoatNinja]

Haters be learners, we're making candy burgers.

QFT

[Hermes]

sad cause I don't like it?
It's definitely impressive though it looks like it still needs some work from the build of it in the video.

It's certainly not the most realistic thing in the world, though it's a really neat addition. Leap a few years ahead with wrap around displays as a common setup then voila we have in game heads tracking people looking to their left and right

It's a fun path to explore. :)

If people want to play games like that go ahead but I think it looks hilarious thats a little too much RP for me.

Ah well I don't roleplay. Even more reason to like things which add incidental immersion! Might be surprising how well this casually works on the brain once we're past the pulling-silly-faces phase.


I'm happy to let them try it out on a game and keep working on it. :groovy:

(EDIT: Btw I do fully expect this to be hilarious for a short while, but in a good way that will recede to general intersting-ness over time. I still haven't got there with the kinect yet, every time we try to go through the calibration steps and make all the camp poses it asks everyone in the house is practically on the floor with laughter :) )

[MonsterBone]

SOE is wasting its time with that one. Should be obvious no one is goign to use that crap

[cellinaire]

SOE is wasting its time with that one. Should be obvious no one is goign to use that crap

I'm sure I'll use that technology... hmm should be interesting. :D

[cryosin]

I think the trailer have scrolling text that explains the game, followed by actual gameplay.

ie:
"Scrolling Text"
***Image you see*****

"Actual gameplay footage"
***Crazy action scene****
"Huge open world"
*** Show a sky high view of the world, cut into map screen*****
"Multiple vehicles"
*** Show tanks and airplanes and infantry and max suits etc.****
"Largest multiplayer available"
****Show a massive 500+ person battle "all real players" scrolling as the battle is occurring******

End it with
"Its free, get it now @ planetside2.com"

Easy, simple, awesome and works.

This:
PlanetSide PC Trailer - Trailer #1 - YouTube

Tells me nothing about the game or why I should care.

[Dagron]

This [video] Tells me nothing about the game or why I should care.
Indeed. In fact, when i linked PS2's page to a friend he replied "meh... another FPS, what's special about it?"

The splash screens with the game's perks written across between footage is a good idea, and ending with "it's free" is clever because people will already be excited about the game before they start mulling over their preconcieved ideas on why it could be bad. They'll probably decide to give the game a chance before shunning it, and hopefully they'll get hooked before they notice it. It's evil but if a game delivers what it promises it's for the greater good. :evil:

[Gonefshn]

I agree totally no harm to work on it. It is impressive technology. I'd love to see how far they can take it despite the fact that I personally don't like the idea lol

[Figment]

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/08/soemote-face-tracking-everquest-ii-hands-on/#comments

You know, we need this on forums. :x