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jmajor
2012-06-06, 01:49 PM
I have noticed that the speed of all the vehicles in the game is measured in kilometers per hour. Since i use miles per hour to measure speed, i have no reference for how fast the vehicles are moving. i just know that they are moving quickly.

Do y'all think they will make the speedometer available in miles per hour, or should i just learn the ratio of kph to mph.:)

bjorntju1
2012-06-06, 01:50 PM
I saw that as well. I don't mind sine I use KPH. But I did find it odd since the game is made in America :p . But I suppose you can change it in the options screen.

Notser
2012-06-06, 01:51 PM
it is roughly 1.6 greater than miles but yes just learn it, since it is a game the unit of measure really doesn't matter

Goku
2012-06-06, 01:51 PM
I don't see why they cannot make something to switch it over, however I personally never cared what model was being used to show speed.

jmajor
2012-06-06, 01:51 PM
that would be to easy for an american. we do things the hard way:lol:

CTheRain
2012-06-06, 01:53 PM
If it looks faster, I like it.

NewSith
2012-06-06, 01:53 PM
AFAIK there was a switch in the Original, so I'm quite sure it will be there in the sequel.

jmajor
2012-06-06, 01:54 PM
AFAIK there was a switch in the Original, so I'm quite sure it will be there in the sequel.

thanks

Crovus
2012-06-06, 01:54 PM
Most modern militaries including the US use the metric system so I can understand why they went with the metric system. Just learn how to convert it.

LegioX
2012-06-06, 01:57 PM
But i dont wanna!!!:cry:

duomaxwl
2012-06-06, 01:59 PM
AFAIK there was a switch in the Original, so I'm quite sure it will be there in the sequel.

Was there a way to switch it in the original? I still play and I've never seen an option for it. I'm not calling you out, I'm legitimately curious.

GreatMazinkaise
2012-06-06, 02:00 PM
Sci-fi games traditionally use KPH; I don't remember there being a toggle in the old game.

Admittedly, the distances were pretty dubious in the original.

Purple
2012-06-06, 02:06 PM
i would like to option to convert it to MPH.

Figment
2012-06-06, 02:08 PM
it is roughly 1.6 greater than miles but yes just learn it, since it is a game the unit of measure really doesn't matter

Depends which miles we're talking about.


I'm with Elcyco on this one. This barbarism must stop. It's not like you'd do anyone a favour by measuring nanites in gallons either!


Also, drive on the right side of the road already.

ringring
2012-06-06, 02:27 PM
It doesn't matter ...... there are only 3 speeds worth noting. Stationary, fast enough and ramming speed!

Dreamcast
2012-06-06, 02:29 PM
Go metric, you impossible US/UK barbarians.

A little bit too mainstream brah.....Ill stick to my MPH, you probably never heard of it.

maradine
2012-06-06, 02:29 PM
I'll measure distance over time with your silly base 10 units, and I'll drink your easily calculated liquid volumes, but I'll be taken out back and shot before I drive on the left side of the road.

FastAndFree
2012-06-06, 03:00 PM
Don't you mean right side?

Xyntech
2012-06-06, 03:00 PM
and ramming speed!

AKA suicide speed, as per the E3 demo. :D

I love how there is hardly any fall damage in the E3 footage, but vehicles crash and blow up so easily. If this doesn't prove to people that it's still going to undergo a lot of tweaking, I don't know what would.

Bravix
2012-06-06, 03:02 PM
KPH is understandable...in the ground vehicles. I don't know why the aircraft are using it though. Aircraft use knots.

ringring
2012-06-06, 03:09 PM
KPH is understandable...in the ground vehicles. I don't know why the aircraft are using it though. Aircraft use knots.

aircraft use airspeed :)

Purple
2012-06-06, 03:15 PM
Depends which miles we're talking about.


I'm with Elcyco on this one. This barbarism must stop. It's not like you'd do anyone a favour by measuring nanites in gallons either!


Also, drive on the right side of the road already.

i can accept meters if you can accept 100 hour days. after all 24 is not a measure of 10 so days must be barbaric.

Figment
2012-06-06, 03:19 PM
i can accept meters if you can accept 100 hour days. after all 24 is not a measure of 10 so days must be barbaric.

If you do that we have to redefine meters again.

Rbstr
2012-06-06, 03:23 PM
BUT KPH IS A PLANESIDE TRADITION!

/what'swithalltheidioticcomplaintsthisweek?

Bravix
2012-06-06, 03:26 PM
aircraft use airspeed :)

I don't think you quite understand what you're talking about good sir.

An aircraft's airspeed is measured in knots (aka nautical miles per hour). Class B, C, D, and E airspace all rely on nautical miles to determine what areas are considered part of their airspace...which is why virtually all aircraft use knots.

If I'm talking to Chicago approach and they ask me what my airspeed is, and I tell them, "I'm traveling at 200 airspeed" they'll likely be quite for a minute as they laugh at me ;D

So, you're half right, half wrong :D

Ailos
2012-06-06, 03:27 PM
BUT KPH IS A PLANESIDE TRADITION!

/what'swithalltheidioticcomplaintsthisweek?

E3.

TheRagingGerbil
2012-06-06, 04:11 PM
Wait, people actually care how fast they are travelling?

The Janitor
2012-06-06, 04:12 PM
I use meters and kilometers to measure distance but for speed I switch back to miles per hour. Hah, I use both systems, what now? Ya know... I think this is actually how NASA lost that one Mars probe... Ah well, I plan on crashing into things regularly in PS2. :D

JHendy
2012-06-06, 04:21 PM
BUT KPH IS A PLANESIDE TRADITION!

/what'swithalltheidioticcomplaintsthisweek?

/what'swithallthesandinyourvaginathesedays?

KTNApollo
2012-06-06, 04:33 PM
Metric is the way everybody else does it. Dunno why America still uses this dumb as hell system.

GTGD
2012-06-06, 04:44 PM
Is this literally a concern? Maybe we should shut everyone up and use Auraxiums Per Auraxour

The Janitor
2012-06-06, 04:45 PM
Is this literally a concern? Maybe we should shut everyone up and use Auraxiums Per Auraxour

Seconded :cool:

Mr DeCastellac
2012-06-06, 04:54 PM
Yeah, I'm American. Sorry.

But I do prefer the metric system, it's much more logical. I've tried a complete conversion, but not having grown up on it makes things substantially more difficult. Besides, even if I did learn all the distances and such, everyone in the country still uses imperial.
It's like when you learn a language in high school and then forget it within a few years unless you are using it enough to lock the synapses, as with any skill.

Also, 90% of Americans would have no idea what I was talking about when I say I got pulled over for going 90 kilometers per hour.


So yeah, I use the imperial system, but it was tradition in Planetside to use KPH, and they should keep it in the game as a default. At the very most, add an option to change it.

Bravix
2012-06-06, 05:00 PM
Metric is the way everybody else does it. Dunno why America still uses this dumb as hell system.

The only time I prefer the metric is when I have to do conversions.

During construction (or anything similar), imperial is the way to go imo.

Zenben
2012-06-06, 05:03 PM
It's probably a good idea to learn ballpark metric -> imperial conversions and vice versa, and I'm not just talking about for a video game.

Zekeen
2012-06-06, 05:07 PM
For the world who uses metric, it's a simple similar choice for them to like it.

For us in areas that use non metric standard - IT'S LIKE IT'S AN ALIEN SCI FI MEASUREMENT!!!! SEE?! It can be COOL!!!

Oh, and I like it like PS1 had it personally. I'm a biased vet.

Macrophage
2012-06-06, 05:22 PM
I'm American, but my current car is from Canada, and as such is 100% metric.

It's a bit strange at first (and extremely alarming to unaware passengers ;)) but trust me, you'll get used to it.

Eyeklops
2012-06-06, 05:34 PM
I don't see why they cannot make something to switch it over, however I personally never cared what model was being used to show speed.
This.

Xyntech
2012-06-06, 05:44 PM
I'd like the option to be there, but I'd probably just stick with KPH. I never had trouble with it in Planetside anyhow. I'd probably stick with the default option either way actually, KPH or MPH. I generally just want to know how fast I'm going relative to other things or to my own other speeds.

lolroflroflcake
2012-06-06, 05:47 PM
I demand the ability to display my speed in nautical miles an hour!

Tatwi
2012-06-06, 07:24 PM
But i dont wanna!!!:cry:

I feel for you. Because of my parents, I don't really know how hot 28C is, but I know that 90F is hot. However! ... I couldn't tell you what 40F feels like, but I know that 0C is where I ice freezes and -20C is figgin chilly!

That said, I am down with KPH and I know that 55MPH is fast enough. What more does one need to know?

Surge72
2012-06-06, 08:07 PM
If you do that we have to redefine meters again.

Not true. The definition of a metre has nothing to do with the number of hours in a day.

Knightwyvern
2012-06-06, 08:16 PM
Also, drive on the right side of the road already.

We do! You drive on the left ;)

Envenom
2012-06-06, 10:22 PM
I have noticed that the speed of all the vehicles in the game is measured in kilometers per hour. Since i use miles per hour to measure speed, i have no reference for how fast the vehicles are moving. i just know that they are moving quickly.

Do y'all think they will make the speedometer available in miles per hour, or should i just learn the ratio of kph to mph.:)

Time to catch up to the rest of the world you ignorant @#$%@# :lol:

FreekilXAlpha
2012-06-06, 10:49 PM
i can accept meters if you can accept 100 hour days. after all 24 is not a measure of 10 so days must be barbaric.

If you do that we have to redefine meters again.

Not true. The definition of a metre has nothing to do with the number of hours in a day.

I'll assume that Figment means defining a day as: 1day = 24hours* = 100hours

where 24hours* is based on our current second/minute/hour timing system and 100hour is based on a modified second/minute/hour timing system. Now a metre is defined as: "The length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1  ⁄   299,792,458 of a second";

Thus the new system would require us to redefine the length of a metre unless we do not change the definition of a second

Knightwyvern
2012-06-06, 10:52 PM
I'll assume that Figment means defining a day as: 1day = 24hours* = 100hours

where 24hours* is based on our current second/minute/hour timing system and 100hour is based on a modified second/minute/hour timing system. Now a metre is defined as: "The length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1  ⁄   299,792,458 of a second";

Thus the new system would require us to redefine the length of a metre unless we do not change the definition of a second

Or we could redefine what a meter is since it's just as arbitrary as a second.

Graywolves
2012-06-06, 10:53 PM
They should create a brand new measurement system.

Or just use meters.

Mr DeCastellac
2012-06-06, 11:43 PM
However! ... I couldn't tell you what 40F feels like, but I know that 0C is where I ice freezes and -20C is figgin chilly!

Hate to be 'that guy', but by definition, ice is already frozen. I think you mean water freezes at 0C/32F.



Also, drive on the right side of the road already.We do! You drive on the left ;)

^This is so full of win.^

SKYeXile
2012-06-06, 11:53 PM
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AvacadoEight
2012-06-06, 11:58 PM
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Was gonna make a snide remark about how America's the best country, but then I remembered I shouldn't do that. Because it starts flame wars.

Satexios
2012-06-07, 08:35 AM
Wait, people actually care how fast they are travelling?

To avoid speeding tickets, you know what the fine is? DEATH.

Signed,

Your friendly TR Officer.

GhettoPrince
2012-06-07, 08:38 AM
I'm ok with it, I've never seen a military vehicle that didn't use metric, probably because of NATO requirements.

Canaris
2012-06-07, 08:41 AM
Go metric, you impossible US/UK barbarians.

this

FastAndFree
2012-06-07, 08:58 AM
When I first saw this thread I thought it's a satire about all the recent complaints. I'm still not convinced it isn't

And by the way, everypony knows that distance must be measured in noses
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Kalbuth
2012-06-07, 09:06 AM
zergfeet should be our length units
Average Raide.... errrr Scythe speed is 1024 kZft per hour

MacXXcaM
2012-06-07, 09:26 AM
I was somehow under the impression Americans could deal with metric measures. At least Higby always talked about 8 x 8 kilometres, never about miles.

In a futuristic setting antiquated measurements would feel weird imo.

Hermes
2012-06-07, 09:40 AM
I would have hoped by the year whatever-thousand the citizens of Auraxis would have settled on a single, sensible system. :)


And then we could put something awesome on the second edge of rulers and measuring tapes. Maybe the correct way to order a beer in 14 languages.

Redshift
2012-06-07, 09:41 AM
i would like to option to convert it to MPH.

how far is a mile? because stupidly everyone measures miles in meters -_- the faster we learn and convert the better

Sabot
2012-06-07, 10:15 AM
how far is a mile? because stupidly everyone measures miles in meters -_- the faster we learn and convert the better

1 mile is 1.6 kilometers (1600 meters). 6.25 imperial miles is 1 metric mile... or whatever you call those in the US/UK.

Speaking of speeds though... I remember seeing in the E3 footage, a low-sniffing scythe took some fire from the ground, turned its nose upwards and was gone from screen in less than a second. 0-100 KPH in like, .09 seconds? sweeeeet.
Or 0-54 MPH in .09 seconds...

Sturmhardt
2012-06-07, 10:25 AM
Join the good side of metric, dude :>

Redshift
2012-06-07, 10:38 AM
1 mile is 1.6 kilometers (1600 meters). 6.25 imperial miles is 1 metric mile... or whatever you call those in the US/UK.


Er that's precisly my point people define the imperial mile in meters, because the imperial definition is so bat shit loco no one can work it out, a quick google tells me it's 5280 feet. If you're going to measure it in meters surely it makes sense to use kilometers?

EDIT:

6.25 imperial miles is 1 metric mile... or whatever you call those in the US/UK.


I've no idea what you're talking about there?! guess that's about 10k although that's not a metric mile (no diea...).

ParisTeta
2012-06-07, 10:50 AM
You know what i find funny on all those metrics discussion? In the US/UK they have strange things like feet, miles etc. what is that, a feet anyway, i mean come on more so unprecise (well they named a standart but still). But then i look to europe, especially my country german, and wie have degree Celsius....which starts with 0 °C for the freezing point of water, and in the US they have Farenheit, which makes far more sense, because it start with the coolest point.

Aunt Edith: Neverminde mixed upped Kelvin and farenheit shame on me thx @redshift

Redshift
2012-06-07, 11:00 AM
wie have degree Celsius....which starts with 0 °C for the freezing point of water, and in the US they have Farenheit, which makes far more sense, because it start with the coolest point.

farenheit makes no sense, yes it lets you go lower, and reachs 0 at around -20 C? that's even less sensible. The only one that makes sense is Kelvin, but then that's far more clumbsy for everyday life than celcius.

Sabot
2012-06-07, 11:02 AM
Er that's precisly my point people define the imperial mile in meters, because the imperial definition is so bat shit loco no one can work it out, a quick google tells me it's 5280 feet. If you're going to measure it in meters surely it makes sense to use kilometers?

Well I can put it this way... Indar is roughly 25 square miles big. When dealing with those sizes, it's easer to use miles than feet, and it's easier to use kilometers than meters... well, not easier, but more practical.

I've no idea what you're talking about there?! guess that's about 10k although that's not a metric mile (no diea...).

I don't know what it's called in the US and the UK... our equivalent of 10 kilometers (6.2 miles). In my language it's called "mile" (or "mil", to be exact).

Redshift
2012-06-07, 11:08 AM
I don't know what it's called in the US and the UK... our equivalent of 10 kilometers (6.2 miles). In my language it's called "mile" (or "mil", to be exact).

We just say 10km or 6.5 miles, no specific word for it

Well I can put it this way... Indar is roughly 25 square miles big. When dealing with those sizes, it's easer to use miles than feet, and it's easier to use kilometers than meters... well, not easier, but more practical.


What i mean is it seems backwards to use an imperial measurement that you then define in metric terms

HartnerX
2012-06-07, 11:18 AM
I don't know what it's called in the US and the UK... our equivalent of 10 kilometers (6.2 miles). In my language it's called "mile" (or "mil", to be exact).

Swedish? It's pretty much just we swedes who uses it and it isn't really official either as we use kilometers on signs and so on. Lot of people tend to call it "the Swedish Mile".

BTW it should be km/h, not KPH :P

Sabot
2012-06-07, 11:22 AM
What i mean is it seems backwards to use an imperial measurement that you then define in metric terms

Ah, okay... well yeah. Haha not much else I can say about that. ^^

Swedish? It's pretty much just we swedes how uses it and it isn't really official either as we use kilometers on sign an so on. Lot of people tend to call it "the Swedish Mile".

BTW it should be km/h, not KPH :P

Oh, did not actually know that... cool haha.

I said KPH so not to confuse the imperialistic yahoos ;)

Top Sgt
2012-06-07, 11:25 AM
MPH KPH doesn't matter to me

While people are looking down at dashboard worrying about how fast they are going. I am driving/flying scanning for targets to get the first strike

Chowley
2012-06-07, 11:28 AM
Go metric, you impossible US/UK barbarians.

lol :D indeed.

I would assume mph will be available though.

deltase
2012-06-07, 11:42 AM
You barbarians pff... KPH is the best measurement system in the world!!11
Who doesnt know how to measure... oh wait...

On a serious note, KPH is basic in many games and i've seen it more used than the MPH, though there are a lot of games that support both. As an European myself, for me it is perfect, but for others ...

As one dude here said the only thing you need to know is slow, kind of fast and ramming speed :D

deltase
2012-06-07, 11:52 AM
farenheit makes no sense, yes it lets you go lower, and reachs 0 at around -20 C?.

0 F = -17,7777 C
0 K = -273,15 C - absolute zero, nada , where your bones and blood turn into ice-cream, where your.... never mind that :D