Don't bother with the Twitter key giveaways

[MercDT]

Seriously, either you have to be creative and appeal to the PS2 twitter person or you have to have some kind of auto fill bot.

The beta keys that I copy-pasted into the beta key/promo field were gone within 5 seconds of the tweet.

[Greeniegriz]

I thought they were Direct Messaging the keys?

At least, they were yesterday...

Cheers,

GG

[Hamma]

They are giving away keys via tweets right now and not DMs.

[chanic]

Definitely don't bother with the keys they are giving out. They are posting them as text so the bots will use them in an instant. My friend managed to snag a key from facebook yesterday, and it was only because people complained and they finally posted a batch as an image.

You can still tweet them stuff to try and get one that way though.

[Greeniegriz]

They are giving away keys via tweets right now and not DMs.

Oh bummer. Glad I got one yesterday then. That racing to enter the code must suck.

Cheers,

GG

[Patek]

i was able to get one late last night, around 12PDT, from arclegger when most of everyone was asleep lol

[MercDT]

I'm just annoyed that they've not responded to vet/reserve player priority thing. It would be nice if I could get a simple answer.

[SpynEs]

yeah im a bit depressed that the tweet said 4 seconds and im a really fast ctrl-c -> ctrl-v into the soe key window and it was taken, so for awhile i kept trying and trying to get a key and....nope.avi.

[Otleaz]

Yeah, bots grab every last one. No point.

[ElectroEsper]

Dont give up lads, it tooks me 2 days and about 100 tweets to get the lucky notice + a TR Fan art of a light assault. And when they choose you they send you a private message with da key.

I do agree in the fact that there is a bit of luck involved though.

[SpcFarlen]

Ive given up on twitter. I got a wedding to go to. So if they send me a key... awesome. But i feel annoying spamming it. And slightly low for begging.

[Rainfur]

I got one from FB and twitter. And I got the magazine. :P

So, I pretty much got beta for all of my friends.... :P

So yeah, I wouldn't bother with the FB at ALL, it's dominated by bots... But if you really want a key, and don't want to buy the mag, I'd try to be creative and do the twitter. :P

[Top Sgt]

i really think those of us who are in or get in should be given 3 keys to pass along to friends etc.. promotes outfits playing in beta to test features and helps get more true fans in game for beta testing.

[SpcFarlen]

i really think those of us who are in or get in should be given 3 keys to pass along to friends etc.. promotes outfits playing in beta to test features and helps get more true fans in game for beta testing.

Good marketing too. Much better then spamming your friends facebook pages with invites.

[Saintlycow]

I got one from FB and twitter. And I got the magazine. :P

So, I pretty much got beta for all of my friends.... :P

So yeah, I wouldn't bother with the FB at ALL, it's dominated by bots... But if you really want a key, and don't want to buy the mag, I'd try to be creative and do the twitter. :P

Can I be your friend :D

Jk. Of course if you need a friend...

Il go and do the twitter way. I have a nice idea

[Rainfur]

Good marketing too. Much better then spamming your friends facebook pages with invites.

Yep. Make some friends, and keep some!

[raidyr]

i really think those of us who are in or get in should be given 3 keys to pass along to friends etc.. promotes outfits playing in beta to test features and helps get more true fans in game for beta testing.

I've got several friends chomping at the bit to try this game and would love to give them an invite.

[Knightwyvern]

Such is the Way of Beta. Not everyone gets in. Harsh realities and all.

[Dartan]

Why are people bothering with this?
I would certainly not want to spoil anything by having a degraded version of the game, which beta/alpha basically is.

[raidyr]

Why are people bothering with this?
I would certainly not want to spoil anything by having a degraded version of the game, which beta/alpha basically is.

Uh, beta/alpha "basically is" a way for developers to test their ideas, designs, and mechanics outside of their contained environment and with the gamers themselves.

I personally enjoy testing games. Being able to play games I enjoy earlier then release is a bonus.

[Envenom]

1 tweet, 1 kill for me. :D

[Absentis]

I agree it's unfair and the keys go stupidly fast go stupidly fast.

I personally hate that companies do Beta key giveaways on social networking sites since it's complete luck and there isn't a particularly good chance of those who get the keys actually testing the game. If people who do get these keys play, they see it more or less as an early demo rather than to actually test the mechanics and to balance what needs to be balanced.

[Vetto]

I think I will just wait till they send me a key in my e-mail.

[Envenom]

I agree it's unfair and the keys go stupidly fast go stupidly fast.

I personally hate that companies do Beta key giveaways on social networking sites since it's complete luck and there isn't a particularly good chance of those who get the keys actually testing the game. If people who do get these keys play, they see it more or less as an early demo rather than to actually test the mechanics and to balance what needs to be balanced.

Lol. What kind of a blanket ignorant statement is that?

[Roidster]

why they haven't gave us vets beta keys yet,astounds me

yet they are handing them out like candy to everyone else

[hiben]

I wouldn't bother with the FB at ALL, it's dominated by bots...

and how might one go about obtaining one of these bot, for "testing" purposes.

[DerFurst]

I wouldn't bother with the FB codes, since they're always gotten the instant they're posted. Your chances are much higher by making up something clever for Twitter. However, the amount of things I did before getting one was ridiculous. I made a robot in photoshop, remade the PS1 logo in 3ds max, then posted an image of my cat and a variety of funny gifs. Only until I mentioned I was sad about Mr. Trololo did I manage to get one.

[Raymac]

Or you just gotta be quick like this guy right here. I think I got the 2nd key they gave out on twitter when I asked about the 1st guy getting one. I'm not bragging....well yes, actually I guess I am. :)

[Knightwyvern]

why they haven't gave us vets beta keys yet,astounds me

yet they are handing them out like candy to everyone else

What do you mean by "vets?" PS1 Vets? http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=39024

PS1 players, Fan Faire 2011 attendees and PC Gamer keys will have first access to beta once it begins.

No restrictions there. if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite, be sure your station acct email is accurate

I wanted to drop in and clarify Beta access for former PlanetSide 1 players. As stated players will receive priority access. This means they will receive access early in the Beta process. This does not mean every former PlanetSide 1 player will get in before anyone else. All we can do is ensure those folks will get in before most others.

[Elude]

Wow those bots are fast lol.

[Roidster]

What do you mean by "vets?" PS1 Vets? http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=39024

what i mean,if they just gave us our beta keys already,there wouldn't be all this mass chaotic confusion,even though we know we are getting them.the masses are going crazy :doh: :lol:

[RadarX]

All you need to be is patient I promise. We have a ton of these keys still and we plan on doing this again tomorrow and maybe even longer until we use them all.

[Zar]

why they haven't gave us vets beta keys yet,astounds me

yet they are handing them out like candy to everyone else
may be late to the party on this one but a dev already tweeted about this they are just gonna turn our stuff on we don't even need keys the all powerful overlords are just going to give us beta god hood no keyboard need be involved =3
https://twitter.com/planetside2/status/210143410563198976

[Otleaz]

All you need to be is patient I promise. We have a ton of these keys still and we plan on doing this again tomorrow and maybe even longer until we use them all.

I'm sure all of the botters will be pleased to hear this.

[Verruna]

SOE reps have said many times, PS1 Vets are going to get into beta. Heres a quote from Twitter:
"No restrictions there. if you are/were a PlanetSide player you get a beta invite, be sure your station acct email is accurate "
If your a vet and took a key from some new nub to the Planetside, you should feel bad.

[MercDT]

Something like this you are looking for?

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps/posts/list.m?topic_id=88000028617

Right, I understand vets (who are/were subscribers) will get priority access...

What about reserves players? I played through a couple of programs and received a free 45 day subscription on top of it(Came out of nowhere).

If I can get that answered by one of the PS devs, that would amazing, Even better, if the answer is that I am flagged as priority then that means I can stop beta key hunting.

[RadarX]

Right, I understand vets (who are/were subscribers) will get priority access...

What about reserves players? I played through a couple of programs and received a free 45 day subscription on top of it(Came out of nowhere).

If I can get that answered by one of the PS devs, that would amazing, Even better, if the answer is that I am flagged as priority then that means I can stop beta key hunting.

Unfortunately this is a bit of an edge case so I can't say definitively you would be included.

[MercDT]

RadarX your response is much appreciated. My SOE account has Planetside 1 along with it's expansions labeled under my account...so I guess I'll have to wait and find out.

[AssassinGT]

I managed to get one one yesterday, you just have to be persistent. Is your perseverance this little!? If so I will kindly end you on the battlefield as a NC. :] (Of course that is after you get a key LOL)

[LegioX]

I went the easy way and paid someone from the UK to get me a key from a magazine. So im good now.

[IHateMMOs]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, my priority key was emailed to me by Sentinel, and looking through their tweets I only see the overall giveaway keys being tweeted, not the personal ones.

[WVoneseven]

I got one at around 3:30am australian eastern time!!! after informing Bill that i'd been on for 10 hours with 100 tweets 4 attempts at facebook and sleep deprivation!!!

[Xaine]

Just like to throw a massive shout out to Hamma and Jenny.

I managed to get a key from Twitter after seven hours and 200+ tweets yesterday, by spamming a picture of me wearing my PS2 t-shirt I won from a competition on here :p.

It worked when they actually saw it.

Love you guys :p

[Talented Maori]

All you need to be is patient I promise. We have a ton of these keys still and we plan on doing this again tomorrow and maybe even longer until we use them all.

When you say "all" does that include keys for people who applied through the official beta sign-up? I ask because I am a non vet who applied a while ago to be part of this beta through the official sign-up. Like most I have tried (Alot) on FB and Twitter but to no avail, so I am asking, are you still going to e-mail keys to applicants who officially 'signed-up'?

[Gonefshn]

I'm trusting them that my status as a vet with PS1 subbed on my account will get me in so I never bothered with key hunting.

Anyways they can't have just PS1 vets and fans in the beta even though it seems "fair" it's not logical. If they are trying to take Planetside and bring it up to date with shooters for today they need that audience's feedback to know if they are doing it right. A beta of all PS1 players would mostly just want the game to change into an updated PS1. Obviously a blanket statement but I'm including myself and it's true lol.

They need feedback from both the players on the fence that might be interested and the already converted.

[Coreldan]

Didn't need a bot to take one of those facebook keys (a batch of 10 or so in text form), don't make excuses about bots :D

[elsnakeo]

My Vanu Sovereignty-branded (permanent marker) flashlight and half recitation of Gilbert and Sullivan weren't enough to get a beta invite yesterday. Perhaps today...

The public-tweeted ones are gone too quickly to bother.

[Brandy]

Both myself and the girlfriend got a key by kindly asking on their twitter yesterday.

It seems a lot of you have sour grapes. Regardless... :wantbeta:

[Talented Maori]

I wouldn't say "sour grapes", infact some of us are far from it. For me I was merely asking a question. Unless that type of behaviour is forbidden on a forum. Anywho..., well done with the keys, my son and I are both looking for one each, would be nice to 'fight' along side my son :)

[ThermalReaper]

I couldn't bother with both. I'm sure eventually I'll get an invite, so I'm being patient. I'm not going to beg on facebook and twitter(Two of my most hated sites) just to get a key I can get by waiting. So screw you Facebook, Screw you twitter, I'm going to get a key anyways... SOON.

[ringring]

Radar, how about throwing a few keys to outfit leaders on the still active outfits (remember the outfit have got their own communities going on in the background) and we can distribute those to friends of outfit members. It's good support for outfits! :D

[Kalbuth]

I don't understand the logic. Being PS1 vets should rule us out of Twitter-given keys. Twitter-keys should target newcomers to the genre, SOE needs all kind of population for feedback
And on Twitter, they are handing keys to people showing they are true fans/followers of original PS1 (ie, vets...). They won't have much newcomers in beta, this way

had they done this the other way around : handle keys to vets first, at 1st E3 day, then doing their twitter giveaway, they'd have less vets spamming for keys on twitter, and more newcomers getting them

[Lorgarn]

I personally love this way of marketing, it spreads the keys out to a wider audience than it would giving them to a fansite or similar.

What I do hate though is my complete lack of wittyness if you will, I have never managed to gather someones attention. Some just have it in them I guess.

[Talented Maori]

I can definately see the benefit in the advertising, I simply want to know if the application filled out before the keys were handed out still counts. I am not really a gambling man and I want this game to succeed considering PS1 lasted almost 10years, so information from New Zealand, which is very far away from the servers would prove beneficial in stress testing the netcode, which is what a beta is for. I can also see the vets point of view, of which I am not, in stress testing the actual mechanics of the game, of which they know how to play, if a button is broken, they'll probably find it first. These things will make the final product a DREAM to play. However, I also realise the devs are busy busy busy, so I'll exercise patience and wait also, some good points in this thread.

[Fafnir]

Sigh, July PC Gamer is out of stock, so I guess it leaves twitter for me. Or PS1 sub, but I don't feel like paying 15$ for early beta access.

The problem with twitter is that it doesn't only require wit, but also a lot of luck. I bet they're spammed by hundreds of people per minute during giveaway. There is a chance to get a key and that's it - a chance.

Also I can't stand people posting old fanart, that wasn't made by them, and getting a key. I guess that's what I get for playing fair and posting pics actually made by myself.

[SniperSteve]

Unfortunately this is a bit of an edge case so I can't say definitively you would be included.

Or you could just pay the $15 and subscribe now. (not sure if it would be early enough, but worth a try)

[Stew]

Unfortunately this is a bit of an edge case so I can't say definitively you would be included.

Hackers with bots claim all your keys sadly ... it seams all the beta keys are gone whithin 3 seconde or less !

I think you guys should post all the beta keys in a ((Picture format ))

[Jacius Ceed]

It is quite hard to get noticed by the twitter team.
They have a lot of tweets hitting their feed.

Took me several hours to get mine.

[psychobilly]

Pretty disappointed in the twitter/facebook giveaways.

I wish they would go through planetside universe and give keys to people who have actually contributed ideas in the idea vault, and also give large blocks of keys to outfit leaders. Much better approach than handing out keys to random social network dweebs.

[Irondove]

So after learning how to use twitter and asking for a beta key, gmail informs me that a hacker tried to access my gmail from vietnam. Thank goodness he didnt get through; and ive amped up my security to "very strong". goodluck to the next hacker who tries, and if hes successful, ill look into 128bit random encryption keys. :doh: but honestly i really dont want to have to go learn that road just yet.

We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account. Please review the details of the sign-in attempt:

Thursday, June 7, 2012 6:32:51 AM GMT
IP Address: 125.234.4.10
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

so one more thing to worry about i guess.

[RadarX]

Hackers with bots claim all your keys sadly ... it seams all the beta keys are gone whithin 3 seconde or less !

I think you guys should post all the beta keys in a ((Picture format ))

The bots claim is possible but still probably very unlikely. Especially from Twitter. This also doesn't account for the fact we are maxing out our Twitter Direct Messages every day.

[RadarX]

So after learning how to use twitter and asking for a beta key, gmail informs me that a hacker tried to access my gmail from vietnam. Thank goodness he didnt get through; and ive amped up my security to "very strong". goodluck to the next hacker who tries, and if hes successful, ill look into 128bit random encryption keys. :doh: but honestly i really dont want to have to go learn that road just yet.

We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account. Please review the details of the sign-in attempt:

Thursday, June 7, 2012 6:32:51 AM GMT
IP Address: 125.234.4.10
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

so one more thing to worry about i guess.

Have you ever used Linkedin or eHarmony? They were recently compromised. I've had this happen before using dirty public WiFi in Las Vegas.

Don't give up!

[Logri]

I hope there will still be website oriented beta key giveaways, been trying to get a beta key for my RL friend for over 2 days now. Would love to be able to play with him on beta.

[LegioX]

Find a guy from the UK to buy a mag for you and give you the key, then forward him the cost of mag. Thats what i did :D

[Sotonian]

Just tried several times, all tweets got to me within 5-8 seconds using multiple tabs open on twitter + refreshing another one with the code redeem page on my second monitor, trying to copy and paste with keyboard commands, but be getting them onto the redeem page within 10 seconds of the tweet going out but not getting anywhere :(

[Handy]

I have given up for now about getting a key so soon :P I will get it when I get it.

[Sotonian]

http://i.minus.com/ipDVHJPrBaZaB.png
My current beta key setup, have multiple tabs open due to delay and refreshing the one at the end every 3 seconds. Copying the code with the CTRL+C cmmand and pasting using CTRL+V, tried every code posted today and nothing :(

[ParisTeta]

Yeah no luck either, got three time different error message code is not aviable for this game instead of the long code already used message. And now Twitter is down, cannot find page. Frustating.

[Ieyasu]

http://i.minus.com/ipDVHJPrBaZaB.png
My current beta key setup, have multiple tabs open due to delay and refreshing the one at the end every 3 seconds. Copying the code with the CTRL+C cmmand and pasting using CTRL+V, tried every code posted today and nothing :(

are you trying to enter the first key on the list or starting 3/4 of the way down? I have a couple local friends that were able to each get one without too much ado.

[Sotonian]

are you trying to enter the first key on the list or starting 3/4 of the way down? I have a couple local friends that were able to each get one without too much ado.

Trying each one as they appear, the multiple tabs are there as the delay in receiving new updates from twitter can vary a lot.

[Novacane]

They really should have given out keys to PS1 vets before this social media firestorm they created. Let the people who actually need them fight over them..

[Hobitt]

lol twitter crashed

[duomaxwl]

They really should have given out keys to PS1 vets before this social media firestorm they created. Let the people who actually need them fight over them..

How many times do people need to say this.
Vet's aren't getting keys. Our accounts will be flagged. Why would they give us
a code if they can just turn on accounts?

[Logri]

They really should have given out keys to PS1 vets before this social media firestorm they created. Let the people who actually need them fight over them..

Was what I was thinking, I can think up a friend or two I could get into the whole PS2 experience.

Well, good things come to those who wait. I'm very impressed with the whole E3 thing, been years that I've been glued to my screen and so hyped up about something. Been doing nothing else then PSU forums and E3 Planetside streams / recordings... can't get enough!

*edit I thought you mean't buddy beta keys, I know i'm taken care off so I have no worries for myself.

[Elude]

I do believe I activated a key, but I'm not certain as there seems to be no area where it displays your activations :(

[LegioX]

Is your PS 2 account active? If so then you have.

[Verruna]

I don't understand the logic. Being PS1 vets should rule us out of Twitter-given keys. Twitter-keys should target newcomers to the genre, SOE needs all kind of population for feedback
And on Twitter, they are handing keys to people showing they are true fans/followers of original PS1 (ie, vets...). They won't have much newcomers in beta, this way

had they done this the other way around : handle keys to vets first, at 1st E3 day, then doing their twitter giveaway, they'd have less vets spamming for keys on twitter, and more newcomers getting them

Very true, its actually harming their marketing by doing it this way.

[Stizzi]

@Elude
Go to "Membership Info" and if "PlanetSide 2 Account : ACTIVE" then the key worked; inactive then try new key....

[Elude]

Is your PS 2 account active? If so then you have.

Nope it's inactive but I was certain that key worked when I entered it, I brought me straight to my CP right after entering it without telling me it was in use.

[duomaxwl]

@Elude
Go to "Membership Info" and if "PlanetSide 2 Account : ACTIVE" then the key worked; inactive then try new key....

Unless you are a veteran Planetside 1 player, than don't bother getting a key, because it's useless.

[Markn]

Have you ever used Linkedin or eHarmony? They were recently compromised. I've had this happen before using dirty public WiFi in Las Vegas.

Don't give up!

Never use public WiFi.

[metziih]

Yeah it's pretty pointless try to get a beta-key through twitter. With 15 second lag between sending and receiving tweet, there's no bloody way you're going to get a beta-key that's not already in use.

[Tricky]

I've probably gone through 50 alone today with no luck (not for me but on a buddys account who didnt play PS1 and who can't do it himself). So frustrating

[Sotonian]

Tried one posted 4 seconds ago, didn't get it. i give up

[Elude]

What I don't understand is that I've entered two keys that seemed to have worked (they didn't display any type of warning message or anything) but in my profile it says the account is still inactive.

[SpirosRonto]

What I don't understand is that I've entered two keys that seemed to have worked (they didn't display any type of warning message or anything) but in my profile it says the account is still inactive.

me too :(
3 times

[Mepper]

I don't understand why they are doing this at all. The whole meaning of a beta is that you will let your game be tested, and try to make it work as you want, BEFORE ADVERTISING. You shouldn't advertise for products that aren't finished, that is just stupid.

And they also said PS1 players would get priority acces. I'm not sure if you can call if priority, when you are giving hundreds of keys away via facebook (which were for the biggest part farmed by scripts, and will most likely appear on ebay soon) and twitter (which you can only get if you spam a few hundred tweets at the planetside account.)

And the people that signed up for beta testing weeks ago, who probably all want to help testing, get nothing.

I do not see any logic in this.

[Sotonian]

After 4 hours of refreshing twitter i officially give up, no beta access is worth this

[TheBear]

Yup. I have to call bots. Unless there are simply THAT many people trying to enter codes (which I really hope is the case, and possible)

I had the day off, and I had tweet deck open with an account I created for a friend (Already have 2 vet accounts signed up).. Copy and pasta'd probably 30 or so codes @ under 5 seconds from tweet.

No luck.

I'm happy if that's because we have so many people trying to get codes that would be so excited as to subscribe to twitter feeds just for beta codes.. but it IS frustrating.

[Tallon]

i wasnt trying, but the constant beta keys mad me unfollow @planetside2 due to the fact that they were eating away at my calm.

[Mechzz]

i wasnt trying, but the constant beta keys mad me unfollow @planetside2 due to the fact that they were eating away at my calm.

lolsnap. Really got on my tits tbh

[Notturno]

I think it's become painfully obvious there are bots farming the keys. They had the right idea on Facebook to put the keys into an image format to stop the bots, but I think the damage has already been done at this point. It would be a safe bet to say that when those accounts are accepted, you will see them go up for sale.

A shame, but there are other ways to get keys thankfully. So there isn't much reason to be upset, it would just be nice if those keys were going to legitimate fans instead of being farmed.

[Saerain]

What I don't understand is that I've entered two keys that seemed to have worked (they didn't display any type of warning message or anything) but in my profile it says the account is still inactive. An accepted key gives a congratulation page. You can't miss it:

http://i.imgur.com/wAQkn.png

Getting kicked back to the account page is some kind of timeout, separate from the one that logs you off with a countdown. I found that you won't suffer it if you refresh the key submission page once in a while.

I think it's become painfully obvious there are bots farming the keys. How is that obvious?

I don't understand these comments I'm seeing from people saying, ‘I copy-pasted in two seconds and it was already used! Impossible! Damn bots!’ It implies that there's no way that even one person out of thousands could have been even half a millisecond faster, just because they were so impressed with themselves. That's an ego-shield fit for nuclear war.

I hope that this is not indicative of how quick people will be with accusations of cheating in the game itself. Then again, they're exactly that quick in most FPSs.

They had the right idea on Facebook to put the keys into an image format I agree that doing that was preferable, if only to eliminate that one suspicion from the butt-hurt thousands. Well, most of them. I still did see things like, ‘No one could type that fast! The bots have evolved!’

Getting a key in unused was just as contentious from the very beginning. Unless the alleged scripters had an insider in SOE to let them know there would be a key dump on Twitter, I can't see how the idea holds up.

[duomaxwl]

And they also said PS1 players would get priority acces. I'm not sure if you can call if priority, when you are giving hundreds of keys away via facebook (which were for the biggest part farmed by scripts, and will most likely appear on ebay soon) and twitter (which you can only get if you spam a few hundred tweets at the planetside account.)

And the people that signed up for beta testing weeks ago, who probably all want to help testing, get nothing.

I do not see any logic in this.

Are you serious? If you are a PS1 player, you are getting priority. Stop freaking out about people who are entering keys that says "Priority Tester," because they haven't flagged our damn accounts yet for beta. They are going too. All you are doing is spreading panic among the morons who can't read what the dev's post. Chill the hell out.

[RadarX]

I don't understand why they are doing this at all. The whole meaning of a beta is that you will let your game be tested, and try to make it work as you want, BEFORE ADVERTISING. You shouldn't advertise for products that aren't finished, that is just stupid.

And they also said PS1 players would get priority acces. I'm not sure if you can call if priority, when you are giving hundreds of keys away via facebook (which were for the biggest part farmed by scripts, and will most likely appear on ebay soon) and twitter (which you can only get if you spam a few hundred tweets at the planetside account.)

And the people that signed up for beta testing weeks ago, who probably all want to help testing, get nothing.

I do not see any logic in this.

This Beta key promotion got PlanetSide 2 in front of over a million people and wasn't geared for former PS1 players in any way. A few thousand additional people is not going to get vets in any more quickly. Realistically come Beta folks will have moved on to a brand new concern but for now we are trying to get PS2 heard about in every corner of the world.

[ParisTeta]

What sounded like a cool idea, beta kive away on FB and Twitter, now leaves a bitte taste, the picture and 10-15 release at once where a lot better, then single one, refreshing all the time.

[Mepper]

Oh they sure get in as first, I just want to point out it is not really priority since A LOT of people get in. They get in as first, but not earlier than hundreds of people who didn't play PS1 -> I don't call that priority.

And how you know there are bots? Because it is possible. It is so easy to write a simple programm that copy-pastes so much faster than humans could ever do. This is the internet, this things just happen, always, you make it very easy to sort of 'cheat' and this, then then there will be cheated.

But I do not believe there were bots for the images. Tweeting the keys in a picture would solve it I think.

[Mepper]

This Beta key promotion got PlanetSide 2 in front of over a million people and wasn't geared for former PS1 players in any way. A few thousand additional people is not going to get vets in any more quickly. Realistically come Beta folks will have moved on to a brand new concern but for now we are trying to get PS2 heard about in every corner of the world.

That I understand. There is nothing wrong with advertising. Only the way beta keys are being given away seems very strange.

I for instance signed up weeks ago for beta, didn't anything. Lots of dudes spamming the twitter get one directly. That just seems kinda wrong to me.

[duomaxwl]

This Beta key promotion got PlanetSide 2 in front of over a million people and wasn't geared for former PS1 players in any way. A few thousand additional people is not going to get vets in any more quickly. Realistically come Beta folks will have moved on to a brand new concern but for now we are trying to get PS2 heard about in every corner of the world.

You guys are doing good. People who are not morons will understand. :thumbsup:


That I understand. There is nothing wrong with advertising. Only the way beta keys are being given away seems very strange.

I for instance signed up weeks ago for beta, didn't anything. Lots of dudes spamming the twitter get one directly. That just seems kinda wrong to me.

If you are a veteran, you won't get anything. There is nothing to give. You'll get an email when they flag your account as active for beta. They have not done this yet. This is not rocket science.

[Notturno]

How is that obvious?

I don't understand these comments I'm seeing from people saying, ‘I copy-pasted in two seconds and it was already used! Impossible! Damn bots!’ It implies that there's no way that even one person out of thousands could have been even half a millisecond faster, just because they were so impressed with themselves. That's an ego-shield fit for nuclear war.

Writing a program to copy and paste data into a field is a trivial matter and isn't something that takes days to complete. It's something quite easily doable and feasible in a situation like this. Especially when you consider how we've seen next to nobody claiming to win the random text Twitter beta keys. Plenty of people have won them through direct messages, but it's an extreme rarity to here anyone winning one from the random text posts.

The images with the beta keys on them were producing many more claimed winners from what I've gathered.

I hope that this is not indicative of how quick people will be with accusations of cheating in the game itself. Then again, they're exactly that quick in most FPSs.

The jump from a simple copy and paste script to a full on aimbot is a major change in subjects and not even applicable in this situation. One of these is an almost guaranteed chance to beta test the game with no repercussions for doing so, while the other is violating the EULA and placing a massive risk in losing your account. One of these is not easily detected, the other has many avenues to be detected. Sorry, but those subjects do not equivocate and has nothing to do with the point being made by several people in this thread.

I agree that doing that was preferable, if only to eliminate that one suspicion from the butt-hurt thousands. Well, most of them. I still did see things like, ‘No one could type that fast! The bots have evolved!’

Now people claiming that are completely out of touch and clueless. Writing a script to gather data from an image takes the same amount of finesse as breaking captchas, which is not as easily done. :P

[Mepper]

I am not a veteran.

[duomaxwl]

And they also said PS1 players would get priority acces. I'm not sure if you can call if priority, when you are giving hundreds of keys away via facebook (which were for the biggest part farmed by scripts, and will most likely appear on ebay soon) and twitter (which you can only get if you spam a few hundred tweets at the planetside account.)


I'm sorry than. The way you were talking in that quote made it seem like you were a vet freaking out over nothing. That has been happening quite a lot recently. :( My bad, I misunderstood. :(

[Mepper]

No problem :)

I'm just pointing out everything that seems strange/wrong to me. I'm not acting out of egoism or stupidity.

[Jownzorz]

Listen, we know there is a closed beta coming. What we don't know is the phases in which you will be allowed to test within this closed beta. I have a VERY strong feeling that the veterans will be the first ones in, and we'll be testing for a week or two before they open access to a second and third wave of testers. The people who are winning the random keys on FB/Twitter may only get access for the last week of closed beta, while the vets will get to play for the entirety of closed beta.

I haven't gotten any of the keys on FB/Twitter, but I know this PS2 team will treat the veterans right. They have listened to a lot of our feedback and they know we will be the most helpful when it comes to expressing issues with the game. We know what PS1 was and we know what makes a persistent MMOFPS work. So, do not fret my veteran brothers. We will see the light soon.

[Luieburger]

Yea there's no way anyone will get those keys except scripters who are really close to the twitter site. The earliest I've ever seen them is at 10s after they are sent, and it was taken.

[SniperSteve]

I am sure SOE's marketing department has more experience than the average gamer that browses these forums. Let them do their thing and stop complaining, IMO. :)

[robocpf1]

Remember, "having a beta key" and "being admitted into beta" are two separate things. The beta keys are useless until SOE flags them for access, obviously, because no one has been admitted to beta yet. They could very, very easily send out emails to all current PS1 subscribers that contain active beta keys and get them into the beta immediately - then in a few days, they hit the button for all the keys generated for the facebook giveaways, magazines, and planetside2.com signups - or something like that. That's how I'm imagining it.

Compare it to an iTunes giftcard. Yeah, you can have as many codes as you want, but they're useless until you take them to the front and the cashier activates them. We simply don't know anything about how the beta admission process will work - patience and faith, comrades.

[mercutiouk]

I think part of the random giveaway though is, as said, the advertising. Most folks on here will be (at very least) trying the game asap. They need a LOT more people interested.

Remember? - that was one of the faults of the first one: It wasn't advertised/pushed much. (It also needed broadband when they it was rare and a pretty ninja pc too, but I digress.) If they got a lot of folks interested in this it's only going to be a good thing. If the games making them good money it will be developed and worked on more.

Pretty sure most here are vets - these keys are to randoms but no-one's actually playing yet....

[Sotonian]

Looks like the beta key spam is beginning today as well, however EURO 2012 kicks off today so i cant try for a code :(

[Decayn]

I was happy to get my key by DM on twitter after maybe only 20-25 tweets. no pics uploaded or anything. just my words got me a key. gl to the rest of ya.

[Sotonian]

How do you get a key via DM?

[Decayn]

How do you get a key via DM?

when you send a tweet to on their site, when they respond to your tweet they send you a Direct Message

[Bazilx]

I got a key from twitter! Took me an hour and a half of making pictures and kissing ass but I got it, he finally said he wanted pictures of pandas so I made him this:

http://s15.postimage.org/683d718s9/planetside_1.jpg

[Bazilx]

Me... I got one... My art was cut off by the page-shift... The guy in charge of giving out keys said he wanted pandas.

I GOT ONE FROM TWITTER BY SUBMITTING MY ART:

http://s15.postimage.org/683d718s9/planetside_1.jpg

[Lorgarn]

I managed to snag two keys from Clegg, one for myself and one for my friend. Was stressful though, I've been staring at the twitterfeed for hours upon hours these last few days.

I'm glad it's done.

[wasdie]

I got a key through a DM.

:D

[Sotonian]

when you send a tweet to on their site, when they respond to your tweet they send you a Direct Message

Ive been following the Planetside 2 twitter and ive seen nothing like that :/

[Bazilx]

http://s15.postimage.org/683d718s9/planetside_1.jpg

[Visperas]

Get a Key in Twitter is complete madness. They go too fast. I'd rather like to see some more of those key-pics from Facebook. Are those coming back? If they aren't, I could finally log off.

[Greeniegriz]

Ive been following the Planetside 2 twitter and ive seen nothing like that :/

Thats how I got my second key. They were asking people to tweet them funny things on Monday (or Tuesday).

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

[Sotonian]

There giving them out via DM now, sent 15 tweets so far and nothing

Started to pull out the big guns, Alien references

[Sotonian]

This is worse than the keys being posted, 38 tweets today trying to get a key and nothing

[MasterskunkPS]

This is worse than the keys being posted, 38 tweets today trying to get a key and nothing

Don't give up, it took me 62 tweets (3 days) to get one.
Good luck

[Sotonian]

Just hit my daily limit and up to 140 tweets trying to get a damn key, is it really worth all this?

[Sotonian]

This whole thing is leaving a very bad taste in the mouth :(

Sent upwards of 300 tweets now using 3 accounts the last 4 days, over 200 of them today.

I am officially done, no more of this crap for me

[Greeniegriz]

This whole thing is leaving a very bad taste in the mouth :(

Sent upwards of 300 tweets now using 3 accounts the last 4 days, over 200 of them today.

I am officially done, no more of this crap for me

Were you just spamming them the same exact thing? Good lord, 300 tweets?

Cheers?

GG

[Sotonian]

Were you just spamming them the same exact thing? Good lord, 300 tweets?

Cheers?

GG

Other people were doing the exact same thing and some of them did get keys

[Talented Maori]

I got one, am going to try for another for my son. All I can say to help is, SPAM them. And I mean SPAM!!!!!!!!!!! With twitter you can't send the same tweet twice, this is where the 'fullstop' comes in handy. Please observe. SPAM. Tweet, SPAM.. Tweet, SPAM... Tweet, SPAM.... Tweet, SPAM..... Tweet S.PAM Tweet, S..PAM Tweet, S...PAM tweet etc. Type a good message, put in a picture (best I saw was the guy off Lost, crying, surrounded by little pictures of the keys given away..., was actually really good :D), copy it, and SPAM away, adding fulstops so you can resend the same tweet!

[elsnakeo]

I apologized for my spamming during E3 and asked politely for a key today... Got a key within a few minutes!

[mirwalk]

I was sending a different tweet for about 12 hours. Finally said forget it. Since they seem to still be doing it, I decided to just send one request message.

[megamold]

I got one, am going to try for another for my son. All I can say to help is, SPAM them. And I mean SPAM!!!!!!!!!!! With twitter you can't send the same tweet twice, this is where the 'fullstop' comes in handy. Please observe. SPAM. Tweet, SPAM.. Tweet, SPAM... Tweet, SPAM.... Tweet, SPAM..... Tweet S.PAM Tweet, S..PAM Tweet, S...PAM tweet etc. Type a good message, put in a picture (best I saw was the guy off Lost, crying, surrounded by little pictures of the keys given away..., was actually really good :D), copy it, and SPAM away, adding fulstops so you can resend the same tweet!

so unimaginative, i sent upwards of a hundred tweets, most of them completely different.
i was just spouting nonsense mostly, but my tweet about lipstick having fish scales in it got me a key :D

[mirwalk]

Man I tried PS poems, Haikus, various jokes.
Even pointed out that one of the original screen shots had the TR using NC guns. Not the model but you could see the logo on the side!
Send about 100 tweets and nothing. Though I did see one guy get an invite for spamming the heck out of betakeybill.
Tried to do similar but no results.

I would submit art but I am NO artist, and I am not going to send in something that looks like a 5 year old drew it.

[megamold]

Man I tried PS poems, Haikus, various jokes.
Even pointed out that one of the original screen shots had the TR using NC guns. Not the model but you could see the logo on the side!
Send about 100 tweets and nothing. Though I did see one guy get an invite for spamming the heck out of betakeybill.
Tried to do similar but no results.

I would submit art but I am NO artist, and I am not going to send in something that looks like a 5 year old drew it.

yeah, its not so much about what you write. more about getting picked out of the hundreds op tweets.
and ofcourse some luck :)

[Kopatch]

is there any way to know if your account is activated for beta?
I insert a key and it just sent me to the account page..
any idea?

[Sotonian]

Gave it one last go today, 1 tweet sent out and i got a key 5 minutes later :)

[PlaceboCyanide]

Got one after my 80th tweet.

PS- BetaKeyBill, best person @ SOE

[Vanu Techpriest]

Finally got one after 3 days and 180 tweets. I wasn't spamming at all until about tweet 150 then I started to copy/paste the same message and change it slightly so that I could carpet bomb them with 10 at a time. Worked like a charm.

Sorry for the Spam but I was getting desperate.

Now I'm just wondering if my old PS1 account (played for a few months at release) will be given "Veteran" status or if this twitter code will be called up first. Also wondering if having both accounts linked to the same e-mail will screw something up.

[PlaceboCyanide]

Finally got one after 3 days and 180 tweets. I wasn't spamming at all until about tweet 150 then I started to copy/paste the same message and change it slightly so that I could carpet bomb them with 10 at a time. Worked like a charm.

Sorry for the Spam but I was getting desperate.

Now I'm just wondering if my old PS1 account (played for a few months at release) will be given "Veteran" status or if this twitter code will be called up first. Also wondering if having both accounts linked to the same e-mail will screw something up.

The Station account w/ the PS1 payment history will be given veteran status and will be in the very first round of beta alongside the PCGamer Keys. The Keys from twitter & Facebook get into beta shortly after. You can doublecheck to see that account has priority by logging in, clicking your name in the top right, then clicking membership info. If you see Planetside2 account active then you can give a friend the twitter key.

[Vanu Techpriest]

The Station account w/ the PS1 payment history will be given veteran status and will be in the very first round of beta alongside the PCGamer Keys. The Keys from twitter & Facebook get into beta shortly after.

So you are given Veteran status as long as Planetside 1 shows up in your account info? Still not sure about what makes someone a "Veteran" or if there's a place I can check.

Edit: I asked on Twitter and Beta Key Bill said "If you played PS1 and have the same station account [BKB]". So apparently you just need PS1 linked to your account regardless of how long you played.

[Kayos]

I wonder if active PS1 accounts make a difference

[Trafalgar]

Yup. I have to call bots. Unless there are simply THAT many people trying to enter codes (which I really hope is the case, and possible)

I have to doubt the bots claim, because I got one of the scrambled public ones myself a couple days ago (after a day or two of trying). I didn't mention it until yesterday because I was concerned someone might try to hack my station account, but considering that the vast majority of people here appear to be PS1 players, and many others are acquiring PC Gamer keys, anyone with a twitter key is probably far lower priority if anyone was actually going to try to hack accounts.


I had the day off, and I had tweet deck open with an account I created for a friend (Already have 2 vet accounts signed up).. Copy and pasta'd probably 30 or so codes @ under 5 seconds from tweet.

No luck.

5 seconds is too slow.

Hackers with bots claim all your keys sadly ... it seams all the beta keys are gone whithin 3 seconde or less !

I think you guys should post all the beta keys in a ((Picture format ))
I'll also note that I didn't use any scripts or bots. I had Seesmic Desktop 2 open (seemed more effective than TweetDeck) on one monitor, and on another monitor I had the key entry page open (and had to keep stopping it from logging me out, or log back in if it did). When one of the PS2 staff posted a 5-part scrambled tweet, I started typing it into the key entry box (not trying to copy and paste it). For the one I won, I started with the first section, and while typing it, found the next section, then while typing that one, found the next section, etc, since it is not difficult to keep something in memory and do something with it while also doing something else and not looking at it. It wasn't until I took that approach that I was able to do it fast enough to get one of the keys. (Prior to that I had been typing, looking for the next section, typing, looking for the next section, and not getting them)

For the split-in-two-posts ones I was copying and pasting, and was always too slow on those, despite using mouse-select, ctrl-c, alt-tab, ctrl-v, enter.

I expect there were a ridiculous number of people trying to get the codes, so it doesn't surprise me that it took me over a day to get one, and that I had to keep improving how fast I was until I got one (and that I had to use an external twitter program to receive the tweets, but I was doing that from the beginning because I knew twitter itself would be too delayed).

I think it's become painfully obvious there are bots farming the keys. They had the right idea on Facebook to put the keys into an image format to stop the bots, but I think the damage has already been done at this point. It would be a safe bet to say that when those accounts are accepted, you will see them go up for sale.

There were a ridiculous number of people trying to get these keys. Now, I don't know if the numbers have gone up or down in recent days - I have no way to know, really. I'm sure SoE could probably tell if they wanted to (just set up the key entry server-side script to track how many people try and fail to get a key within 60 seconds or so).

Writing a program to copy and paste data into a field is a trivial matter and isn't something that takes days to complete. It's something quite easily doable and feasible in a situation like this. Especially when you consider how we've seen next to nobody claiming to win the random text Twitter beta keys. Plenty of people have won them through direct messages, but it's an extreme rarity to here anyone winning one from the random text posts.
You would still have to descramble the keys (only slightly more effort, still) or assemble multiple tweets. Personally, I didn't write a program to harvest keys, because it wouldn't have been fair to anyone else trying to get a key.

Finally, I think you overestimate the chances of people saying "I won!" and underestimate the chances of them being paranoid about being hacked and losing their station account.

[IgloGlass]

Both med and my friend have gotten a key each from Twitter by being nice and appealing so yeah, bother people, bother!

[IgloGlass]

I wonder if active PS1 accounts make a difference

An active Ps1 account will automaticly give you a beta-key, just make sure SoE has your right e-mail!

[Truemedic]

I've tried for 3 hours on average for the last 3-4 nights while people were steaming PS1. Stream on one monitor with the other two pages setup side by side... Still nothing. I even did some probability to see how long it would be till the next tweet but it wasn't consistent enough to see a pattern... Oh well, I'll keep trying.

[ConsPark]

Send them tweets now and then. With luck (and in the case of some people, time) they'll respond and just might jet you a key. That's how I got mine.

As others have said, don't bother with the keys they post directly. They go stupidly fast.

[Trafalgar]

They go stupidly fast, but it's not impossible to get them if YOU can be sufficiently fast. (It was easier for me to get one of them than to get a DM'd one)

[mirwalk]

Took me 4 nights and about 120 tweets, then Sentinel DMed me one.

[Jaenus]

They are giving away keys via tweets right now and not DMs.

Which is a stupid, ineffective way to get those keys into the hands of real-life people/loyal fans.

As you know first hand how quickly those bots gobble up keys and then sell them for upwards of $50.

The frenzy only lends itself to the spammers being seen.

Worse still, Valk and others aren't consistent with their awarding of keys.

They say fan art, and award some but not all, quality clearly not being what they're looking at, which only leads me to my next point:

I find if you kiss Valk's ass or appeal to the beta-key-person-of-the-day's ego or factional bias, you're more likely to get a key.

I posted VS fanart several times and was constantly ignored while people who draw bullshit in paint about TR killing VS, something like "I wasted my life" or w/e get the key. (Admittedly, I laughed at it, but it took the guy 30 seconds?)

Or someone I never saw in my 6 days of lurking/posting says, "I need a reason to stop playing BF3! and then Valk replies to them with a key.

So rule of thumb from a twitter vet?

1) Appeal to their factional bias;
2) Kiss their ass;
3) Make stupid comments or inane tweets while doing 1 and 2;
4) Profit from a key!


And as a side note; you're free to disagree with me, you're free to dislike what I say, but after 6 days of trying for a key for 3-4 hours every evening after work, this is the information/feeling that I have gotten for myself, first hand. I don't mean my observations to be an insult to any of the SOE staff, I do know they are swamped, but it is what it is.

[Koosalagoosagoo]

I told Sentinel that I was the king of Nigeria and was going to deposit 2 million dollars into his bank account for a beta key, that got me one. :rofl:

[DirtyBird]

I managed to snare one from TRay on twitter when he was giving up on the NC that hadnt sent him a DM when he called them out from his follower list.

I told him a zillion NC had sent him a msg for a key and the ones he was listing arent loyal to the cause.

Next thing, my nick was called out :groovy:

That key went to a mate of mine that missed out on playing PS1 with us but is very keen to get in on PS2 after seeing all the stuff thats been released so far.

[WVoneseven]

Me I just told bill that i'd been up 14 hours and it was at the time 3:15AM in australia.... as well as 100 tweets and 4 attempts at facebook...

He gave me a key to sleep on

This was early morning day 2 of key giving in america about 24 hours after they started key giveaways.
I reckon I dun good :P

[windlord]

I've never looked at twitter and I don't live in the Northern Hemisphere. Methinks the odds of getting a key are stacked against me. 8/

[Trafalgar]

It's a variety of people on at different times, and generally more than one at once, although I have seen nobody on at all for a number of hours during the wee hours of the morning EST. (And I've not paid any attention since I got my key, so I do not know if it has changed since then, and if it has, this may be less helpful)

[FPClark]

Hitlers reaction to preparation for Planetside 2 beta - YouTube

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Hitlers reaction to preparation for Planetside 2 beta (Part 2) - YouTube

Loled pretty hard last night

[Phellix]

Hitlers reaction to preparation for Planetside 2 beta - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq995irN_k4)

+

Hitlers reaction to preparation for Planetside 2 beta (Part 2) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxGyIP5ymNo)

Loled pretty hard last night

HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD, this is the best script i've ever seen, +10394234823947234 points to the editor

[rTekku]

My friend got 3 Keys from twitter.

I got one key from Facebook.

[Mandor]

I got a public Twitter key a couple of days ago.

If you are trying to get a public key by spam refreshing the Twitter site, you can stop right now. The website is 30-40 seconds late with tweets posted.