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Top Sgt
2012-06-07, 03:40 AM
NC Elite Zebra Squads? really

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/zeus77/Zeus%20B/wmplayer2012-06-0703-25-33-86.jpg

Space Pimps really?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/zeus77/Zeus%20B/wmplayer2012-06-0703-35-31-65.jpg

Come on Son! :rofl:

Robotix
2012-06-07, 03:44 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sJzP1a7MFUQ/T4HESgOBq_I/AAAAAAAAJQc/Q5Njauvh0DU/s1600/laughing-zebra.jpg

bpostal
2012-06-07, 03:46 AM
I'm gonna stick this on everything!

Top Sgt
2012-06-07, 03:46 AM
This is starting to look retarded. Exactly what I was afraid of.

Customizations should stick with empire main colors:

TR: red/black-grey
VS: mint/purple
NC: yellow/blue

Hopefully that zebra motif is just T-Ray trolling us, seeing how far they can go before people e-rage. I'm ready to e-rage now dude, stop this madness.

were just having a lil fun is all

Razicator
2012-06-07, 03:47 AM
If the stripes were in the empire specific colors I honestly wouldn't mind. Maybe red stripes on black armor, yellow on blue, teal on purple. It would make it easier to identify empires too.

Zenben
2012-06-07, 03:48 AM
Doesn't bother me in the slightest, as long as it has to be paid for. The more ways they can think of to support the game, the better.

Coreldan
2012-06-07, 04:02 AM
Doesn't bother me in the slightest, as long as it has to be paid for. The more ways they can think of to support the game, the better.

This.

I dont really like the "unrealistic" stuff in a game like this. Like the Loverator kinda things or these zebra stripes (on the brink, they can still be useful camo kind of things, I guess), but anyone/anything that supports this game is pretty much fine with me, with the exception of P2W and I will even manage a small amount of that too if it does truely support the game.

Bags
2012-06-07, 04:03 AM
Eh, this is about the limit. People found IRL pictures of vehicles with zebra like cammo.

Anything further is probably pushing it.

Timealude
2012-06-07, 04:04 AM
Eh, this is about the limit. People found IRL pictures of vehicles with zebra like cammo.

Anything further is probably pushing it.

and thats what higby said, he doesnt want it to be like hello kitty on your tank or armor

Spoof
2012-06-07, 04:06 AM
It's amusing how people (and devs) at E3 click through the UI selecting camo skins that look good... and then settle for zebra carpet.

Just looks silly.

QuantumMechanic
2012-06-07, 04:20 AM
Zebra warpaint has always had a dear place in my heart ever since I first watched Conan and his companions paint it upon their faces before slaying Thulsa Doom's harem inside his Mountain of Power.

Coreldan
2012-06-07, 04:26 AM
http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6381290/the-growing-battlefield-in-planetside-2/index.html

You can see here that the zebra (amongst with other things) skin is available for station cash only, meanwhile fe. weapons were available for auraxium too.

Marinealver
2012-06-07, 04:27 AM
HA HA HA Ha lolololololol

It's Safari time and I'm gonna shoot me some Zebras!

Redshift
2012-06-07, 04:31 AM
maybe we should just decide, as a community, to always shoot the zebra camo players first......

Gogita
2012-06-07, 04:41 AM
I know that silhouettes should also show who is from which empire, but I think this is blurring out way too much of each empire's colors. Not to mention that these zebra lines break the lines of their silhouette.

I wish they change the zebra lines in a way so its similar to the other camouflage paterns, where they still use the empire colors. Here they could for example use blue with black lines or yellow with black lines. Also, with all the publicity of the zebra lines, I feel like this is going to be a popular skin used by players. It's going to be very confusing if every empire has many players that use this skin, with regard to identifying friends from foes.

I consider this is not the same as the desert camouflage, because that makes you blend with the environment. However, the zebra prints in its current form only makes you look like other people with the zebra print

Redshift
2012-06-07, 04:48 AM
However, the zebra prints in its current form only makes you look like other people with the zebra print

So it camouflages you?

Gogita
2012-06-07, 04:52 AM
So it camouflages you?

No, if you had eyes and read it better you would know that camouflage is not the same as making someone look like someone from another empire. It's supposed to only blend you with the environment.

Making someone look similar to another empire is not a good idea and cannot be justified in a game like this.

MacXXcaM
2012-06-07, 04:59 AM
Where did you get these pics btw?

megamold
2012-06-07, 05:00 AM
i'm not 100% convinced on the whole customization thing either.
what i did take away from the livestream is that things like cat ears or horns on your soldier arent really visible when in combat, they are more visible in the killscreen then they are on the ground when fighting.

the zebra camo and stuff kinda bothers me, but not so much since planetside was never really a realistic game, but i do not think it will break the game in any way since the silhouettes are more important to ID players and vehicles imho.

however i do understand why they chose to go this route.
the thing planetside is built around is people. lots and lots of people.
making it free to play ensures that the game will stay more populated for a longer time ( compared to ps1 ) and this should give it a longer and more active lifespan then ps1, wich is a good thing imho.
and if a tank with a zebra skin is the tradeoff to making the game live a longer and more full life then ps1.
then i say they made the right call.

Knightwyvern
2012-06-07, 05:00 AM
I had very little trouble even in the stream to determine who was who, zebra or not. The zebra tanks even started to grow on me; believe it or not, this has been used as a military paint scheme. Not for camouflage, but for unit recognition. It will serve well for that kind of thing. When in doubt, hit Q.

Qel
2012-06-07, 05:39 AM
I can see why they feel the need to have this level of appearance customization and it does appeal to me in some ways. There is a danger of going too far and losing the feeling of being on the same faction that we had in PS1 though and I think they're very close to that.

Perhaps as people have suggested in this thread some of the camos need to be tinted more towards the faction colours, or maybe they need to think in terms of First World War aircraft, you can have your custom colour scheme but there will always be a very prominent faction logo in specific places that is easily spotted by friend and foe.

Satexios
2012-06-07, 06:05 AM
I love it, as long as it is not pink I will support it. Besides it was used in a real war and worked very well in combat so why not?

AssassinGT
2012-06-07, 06:12 AM
Doesn't bother me in the slightest, as long as it has to be paid for. The more ways they can think of to support the game, the better.

That.

FPClark
2012-06-07, 06:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat

http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=10063


;P

Cosmical
2012-06-07, 06:24 AM
They can just make the Zebra print worth shitloads of currency.

Personally i would prefer to see a Blue and Yellow zebra print for NC, and the same for the other factions.

Ide go even as far to say that the camo's should have a slight faction tint to them.

No doubt there will be a "HIDE YORU NAME" above your character implant eventually, and the Zebra camo will really slow youre reactions between friendly and foe. Even if you know silhouettes.

Grimster
2012-06-07, 06:40 AM
WHAT?!


No "Hello Kitty" logos plastered all over my Vanguard?!


I think I am going to cry now. :(


/sarcsasm

Immigrant
2012-06-07, 06:54 AM
This is starting to look retarded. Exactly what I was afraid of.

Customizations should stick with empire main colors:

TR: red/black-grey
VS: mint/purple
NC: yellow/blue

Hopefully that zebra motif is just T-Ray trolling us, seeing how far they can go before people e-rage. I'm ready to e-rage now dude, stop this madness.

Word. pattern is ok but there should really be some color restrictions - like either to faction colors or environment colors. That chita skin worries me more than zebra one tbh. I could see zebra camo being a viable option on Esamir (snow continent) but not elsewhere.

p.s. I doubt he's just trolling.

Rozonus
2012-06-07, 06:54 AM
I like the look of unity between squad mates, even if they are all covered in zebra stripes!

I would prefer it if Outfit leaders had the ability to choose a camo colour/design for their Outfit that all members have access to, so they can be easily recognised and also look like a unit.

If the zebra stripes didn't cover so much of the armour, or maybe only covered the metal parts and not the cloth parts, it would look better.

Spoof
2012-06-07, 06:57 AM
Zebra warpaint has always had a dear place in my heart ever since I first watched Conan and his companions paint it upon their faces before slaying Thulsa Doom's harem inside his Mountain of Power.

I always thought they were sneaking in as a Kiss tribute band.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j274/dark666rage/kiss-band.jpg

Rozonus
2012-06-07, 07:51 AM
Has anyone mentioned if camo designs can be applied to just the body armour or just the under-clothing? If the default option applies it to the whole uniform like in those screenshots, it shouldn't be too hard to split it up into different customisation 'zones' on the armour.

Nasher
2012-06-07, 08:01 AM
I agree, they need to remove them in the full game and stick to variations of the faction colours.

They said you can't e.g. use red as a NC to confuse people, but if people from all factions are using the same joke skins like these then they are still going to look the same...

Canaris
2012-06-07, 08:04 AM
I think Peter said it the best

Family Guy - Peter Doesn***39;t Fit in the Army - YouTube

Magpie
2012-06-07, 08:06 AM
I think Peter said it the best

Family Guy - Peter Doesn't Fit in the Army - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1eswGrkMU8)

LMAO!!!! Win

bigcracker
2012-06-07, 08:06 AM
the US,UK,Canada and Australia have tried using animal print as camo to test to see if the human eye could see it at a distance and it never went past testing phase, Thank god they went with the MARPAT and digital camo instead!

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/38000/US-Zebra-Force-Desert-Camo-Uniform-38253.jpg

Figment
2012-06-07, 08:08 AM
I know what (MCYx)Braveheart will be customizing himself after.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--1ez-N3rrvc/T4dHQrqnD5I/AAAAAAAAAhA/p8xE-wmLVkc/s1600/dde9eee0332f6783dcac8014fe1ec557.jpg

Snipefrag
2012-06-07, 10:45 AM
Lighten up guys, there are real world examples of all these things. Its not like they are Mr Hankey the Christmas Poo infiltrator suits.

On the point of being able to distinguish players, if zebra camo really makes it hard for you to realize what faction someone is after playing the game for more than 2 hours then you have bigger problems to worry about... If you go down the path of only having faction colours as part of the camo then you automatically wipe out 90% of them.. I don't know many red, blue or purple tundras, deserts or jungles.

Top Sgt
2012-06-07, 11:28 AM
Where did you get these pics btw?

screen caps from video I have etc

Thread was mean't as a propaganda and a joke overall.

Also for someone that mentioned it earlier.. Outfit leaders do have the ability to set all outfits members in a certain camo/design.. I remember a video one of the devs/soe's employee's said so.

Landtank
2012-06-07, 11:48 AM
I can't wait to fight in the jungles of Amerish camouflaged hiding in a bush, shooting stupid TR and VS. Then you will not mock my zebra camo, and you shall learn to fear it!

But really, I liked how camo can actually have an effect in the game, even if it is Zebra camo, and if you can't differentiate an enemy from an ally means it is working :P

Immigrant
2012-06-07, 11:58 AM
the US,UK,Canada and Australia have tried using animal print as camo to test to see if the human eye could see it at a distance and it never went past testing phase, Thank god they went with the MARPAT and digital camo instead!

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/38000/US-Zebra-Force-Desert-Camo-Uniform-38253.jpg

Is this for real? What are they fracking stupid?! Only reson why zebra evolved that pattern is to repel bloodsucking flies not to blend in. faceplam anglosaxon military, next time consult evolutionary biologist before doing something stupid like this, it will save your taxpayers money for sure.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/120209-zebra-stripes-horseflies-bugs-akesson-science/

Bittermen
2012-06-07, 12:14 PM
and thats what higby said, he doesnt want it to be like hello kitty on your tank or armor

Then why did he put in the loverator?

Pretty close to hello kitty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat
http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=10063
;P

The reason why these B-24D's had those ridiculous color schemes was so other aircraft could find them and form up... Opposite of camo. 

EDIT: In response to the post above. There is more than one reason behind zebra's stripes. Keeping flies at bay, camouflage, keeping the zebra cooler in the hot Savannah.... All evolutionary factors in it's design.

JHendy
2012-06-07, 12:17 PM
The thing that I'm hating the most is the awful low resolutions of these different patterns when applied to vehicles. If anything I think that alone would be enough to discourage most people from dressing their vehicles up.

http://i.imgur.com/mujKR.png

Look at the barrel.

Aractain
2012-06-07, 12:23 PM
I want a sticker set that says "U mad?" on the front and "Deal with it" on the back. I will pay.

Novacane
2012-06-07, 12:24 PM
To be fair, there is a reason a zebra or leopard looks like it does, its great camouflage. There have been many instances of armies using animal camouflage schemes on their uniforms and vehicles.

http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200902/images/leopards/LEOPARD%20DESIGN%20SELECTS-J_sm.jpg
http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/138621.jpg

Its the players fault if they want to use a white and black color scheme on a desert background or a leopard print in snow.

The Janitor
2012-06-07, 12:29 PM
Haha, I love it. BRING ON THE PONY SKINS!

Hmr85
2012-06-07, 12:33 PM
Zebra stripes are going to look great when you finally see them in a snowy enviroment. As of right now though they look tacky having them in a dry desert setting. I'm personally fine with them. Faction color stripes would look great also.

capiqu
2012-06-07, 12:34 PM
You don't want to be owned by the Zebralators?

Coreldan
2012-06-07, 12:34 PM
While not "empire colours" in zebra stripes, I really like the look of Matt's LA in these videos in the start: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-planetside-2/731789?

MrBloodworth
2012-06-07, 12:35 PM
I do not mind the patterns. But I think they take up way to much of the surface area.

Raymac
2012-06-07, 12:39 PM
If there is one thing I've learned, it's that taste is very subjective. What is ugly to one person, is kick ass to another. It's just a fact of life people need to deal with.

Vancha
2012-06-07, 12:43 PM
I would rather see a hello kitty face on the side of a tank than have it covered with pimp-camo. I don't care if some plane in real life does it, in the game it looks ridiculous.

http://www.nothingtoseehere.net/2008/07/t34_tank_london_1.html

There's your zebra camo, done for art, not practicality.

Talking of snow camo, here (http://file011a.bebo.com/5/large/2007/08/27/00/871839211a5388131026l.jpg) and here (http://domhyde.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/snowlambo2.jpg) would seem more effective and appropriate for a futuristic war game.

Doorbo
2012-06-07, 12:45 PM
Say what you want about the zebra camo, I like it. I'll be wearing it on Esamir, or whatever they decide to call the snowy continent.

AvacadoEight
2012-06-07, 12:50 PM
This is starting to look retarded. Exactly what I was afraid of.

Customizations should stick with empire main colors:

TR: red/black-grey
VS: mint/purple
NC: yellow/blue

Hopefully that zebra motif is just T-Ray trolling us, seeing how far they can go before people e-rage. I'm ready to e-rage now dude, stop this madness.

So why the hell are you so butthurt about this? Can they not have at least a LITTLE fun making their game? Give them room to have a little expression, for gods sake! People are so ungrateful..

Doorbo
2012-06-07, 12:56 PM
I love it, as long as it is not pink I will support it. Besides it was used in a real war and worked very well in combat so why not?

In WW2 the SAS painted their jeeps pink for better camouflage in the desert, particularly at dusk and early dawn. They were nicknamed pink panthers

Ale
2012-06-07, 12:59 PM
In WW2 the SAS

Wot?

Aractain
2012-06-07, 01:01 PM
Yeah pink is a well known IRL camo. The point here is this is a F2P game and if you want to play such an awesome game you have to deal with either PAY TO WIN or 'silly' camo and asthetics. I know which one I want.

Vancha
2012-06-07, 01:01 PM
So why the hell are you so butthurt about this? Can they not have at least a LITTLE fun making their game? Give them room to have a little expression, for gods sake! People are so ungrateful..
Maybe because it'd impact his enjoyment of the game? Some people actually try to immerse themselves into the game and there's no better way to detach people from that than to have jarring things that don't look like they belong.

Edit:
Yeah pink is a well known IRL camo. The point here is this is a F2P game and if you want to play such an awesome game you have to deal with either PAY TO WIN or 'silly' camo and asthetics. I know which one I want.
Why must it be silly? Can't we have "cool" looking things? Instead of "zomg lolz dats hi-larious!", can't we have "OMG that's bad ASS!"? Things that make weapons/armour/vehicles look better instead of sillier?

Edit II: I mean, it's not like there's a lack of things they could put in the cash shop. Between the colour swaps, decals, headlight colours, "hood ornaments", model variants and such, there's plenty they could have without making people unable to take the game seriously.

Graywolves
2012-06-07, 01:03 PM
Zebra skin can be useful to make your numbers look larger when predators are nearby in the wild.

proxy
2012-06-07, 01:06 PM
He's academic - he cited his source guys.

Dreamcast
2012-06-07, 01:33 PM
They have to make their money some how....If people wanna buy a crappy skin then let them.

Vancha
2012-06-07, 01:37 PM
They have to make their money some how....If people wanna buy a crappy skin then let them.
You seem to be missing the fact that their ridiculous appearance affects other peoples' experience of the game.

UNLESS there's an option to turn off seeing other people's skins, and you just see everyone with the default models. Then they could buy pink and green giraffe camo for all I care.

Dreamcast
2012-06-07, 01:46 PM
You seem to be missing the fact that their ridiculous appearance affects other peoples' experience of the game.

UNLESS there's an option to turn off seeing other people's skins, and you just see everyone with the default models. Then they could buy pink and green giraffe camo for all I care.

You mean the immersion of the game?...........Well is a game.



and I bet 99% of the people aren't going to buy the zebra skins.


I hope their isn't a pointless option to not see skins....unless is easy to do.


I don't like them either, they look kind of stupid....I don't like the gold gun either since it looks stupid(I think I saw a gold gun)..........but this a free 2 play game, they have to make money....is a game live with it.

Im sure theirs gonna be cool skins eventually.

Raymac
2012-06-07, 01:48 PM
You seem to be missing the fact that their ridiculous appearance affects other peoples' experience of the game.

UNLESS there's an option to turn off seeing other people's skins, and you just see everyone with the default models. Then they could buy pink and green giraffe camo for all I care.

But that's the point. YOU may think something looks ridiculous, but to somebody else, they may love it. And vice versa. You may think something looks great, but another person may consider it cheesy. Taste is very very subjective.

For example, I'm not a huge fan when the NFL starts wearing a bunch of pink during October, but breast cancer awareness is an extremely noble cause.

Obviously, that may be a rare and overly specific example, but who's to say a player shouldn't be allowed to wear pink for just such a reason. Hell my name is an homage to my grandfather. People do things for all kinds of reasons.

Xyntech
2012-06-07, 01:48 PM
The weird colors and patterns don't really bother me because the lighting in the game makes them look like legitimate paint jobs, even if occasionally somewhat odd choices.

If there were neon green and pink armor, that would make my eyes bleed.

Serotriptomine
2012-06-07, 02:04 PM
Iirc black / white stripes hides you against a white background.
Did they not say they would be introducing an ice planet?

*hint hint*

Vancha
2012-06-07, 02:08 PM
..........but this a free 2 play game, they have to make money....is a game live with it.
I don't know why people keep saying this. We know what the art team behind this game are capable of. If you think something looks sub-par, there's no reason not to tell them.

But that's the point. YOU may think something looks ridiculous, but to somebody else, they may love it. And vice versa. You may think something looks great, but another person may consider it cheesy. Taste is very very subjective.
Firstly, that's why I'm putting forth my opinion. People putting forth their opinion on something is how consensus is formed, which then goes on to influencing decisions about the same in some small way. Are you suggesting we don't put forth our opinions on anything that other people won't agree with?

Secondly, you could use that argument to turn the game into wonderland. If anything goes because someone, somewhere will love it, then give me my skewed top hat and modified straight jacket while I fire my slow-shooting underslung jackhammer with a cannon skin. Bring on the hundreds of Neo clones, bow-and-arrow skins, My Little Pony decals and cupcake camouflage.

Snipefrag
2012-06-07, 02:08 PM
Jesus christ.. You guys are moaning about immersion in a futuristic MMOFPS?! If you can't get your head around zebra skins how the hell do you get them round hover tanks, cloaking, lazer based weapons and nano reconstruction of the human body !

This isn't CoD, every faction isn't wearing camo to blend in. Your point is moot about breaking immersion. You are just whining because it's something YOU don't want in the game and are coming up with terrible arguments to back yourselves up. In four pages I have yet to see a convincing argument against it, try harder guys.

Shogun
2012-06-07, 02:24 PM
as long as the more stupid looking customisations are only sold for real money it will be fine.

on the demo it looks stupid because everybody is using stupid camos for free. this hopefully will not happen on release. if camos are sold, a lot of freeplayers will run around in standard armor, reducing the amount of stupidity. and even those who enjoy and buy stupid stuff will spread out and buy diffrent things, so i don´t think it will be a problem.

and the zebra camo will be insanely useful on the wintercontinent, as it breaks the outline of the soldier/vehicle and reduces color contrast.

Bazilx
2012-06-07, 02:26 PM
and the zebra camo will be insanely useful on the wintercontinent, as it breaks the outline of the soldier/vehicle and reduces color contrast.

Also on the African Savannah continent.

Vancha
2012-06-07, 02:36 PM
Jesus christ.. You guys are moaning about immersion in a futuristic MMOFPS?! If you can't get your head around zebra skins how the hell do you get them round hover tanks, cloaking, lazer based weapons and nano reconstruction of the human body !

This isn't CoD, every faction isn't wearing camo to blend in. Your point is moot about breaking immersion. You are just whining because it's something YOU don't want in the game and are coming up with terrible arguments to back yourselves up. In four pages I have yet to see a convincing argument against it, try harder guys.
Immersion isn't the same as realism. You've never been immersed into a Star Wars movie or Battlestar Galactica, for example? Now imagine if Barnie the dinosaur suddenly popped up in BSG, staring at the camera and yelling "HEY KIDS!", it'd probably break the immersion, right? That's because immersion is dependent upon the coherence of the setting, not the realism.

SixShooter
2012-06-07, 02:44 PM
Like it or not, this type of camo and customization will probably out sell the more conventional stuff. I would be way more irritated by a game that was not funded well and lacked development than by seeing guys in stupid looking camo. I'm all for SOE having this type of stuff available for the people who want it so they can keep the game going for as long as possible.

JHendy
2012-06-07, 02:58 PM
Wot?

What?

Dreamcast
2012-06-07, 03:00 PM
I don't know why people keep saying this. We know what the art team behind this game are capable of. If you think something looks sub-par, there's no reason not to tell them.

I know they will make better skins....but if somebody wants to look like zebra which I doubt 99% of people will want to....then give them that skin.

Vancha
2012-06-07, 03:16 PM
but if somebody wants to look like zebra which I doubt 99% of people will want to....then give them that skin.
Again, you don't seem to consider the impact on others. How far does that go? "if somebody wants to look like a pink giraffe"? "If somebody wants to look like Rainbow Dash"?

Purple
2012-06-07, 03:22 PM
NC Elite Zebra Squads? really

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/zeus77/Zeus%20B/wmplayer2012-06-0703-25-33-86.jpg

Space Pimps really?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/zeus77/Zeus%20B/wmplayer2012-06-0703-35-31-65.jpg

Come on Son! :rofl:

your right, that looks awesome. i definitively am buying zebra stripes!

Elude
2012-06-07, 04:46 PM
These wouldn't look so bad if they weren't so sloppily done, I swear it's as if they just took a tileable texture and plopped it onto masked parts of the UV map.

JHendy
2012-06-07, 05:41 PM
These wouldn't look so bad if they weren't so sloppily done, I swear it's as if they just took a tileable texture and plopped it onto masked parts of the UV map.

This.

Snipefrag
2012-06-07, 06:43 PM
Immersion isn't the same as realism. You've never been immersed into a Star Wars movie or Battlestar Galactica, for example? Now imagine if Barnie the dinosaur suddenly popped up in BSG, staring at the camera and yelling "HEY KIDS!", it'd probably break the immersion, right? That's because immersion is dependent upon the coherence of the setting, not the realism.

Ok, let me break this paragraph down for you. You start off by stating that realism != immersion, that's fine. This is obvious.. If you think this is what I'm stating thne reread my post, I was simply stating that in this context zebra camo is not that much of a jump from people running around in bright pink/purple/red/black/blue/yellow jump suit firing funky lazers. As you said, coherence of setting.. I call it context.

It's not like we are going from call of duty'esque full camo to leopard spots. Unfortunately the rest of the post you are just trying to back up a weak point by trying to attach it to a ludicrous statement about barney in BSG. A common response when struggling to reach a point.

If you honestly think that zebra stripes are bad for the game because it breaks immersion then we will have to agree to disagree.. But ask yourself are you not just opposed because it falls slightly outside of the bounds of which you are used to from planetside? Don't get me wrong, I don't give a damn about zebra stripes either way.. I just think this thread is a load of hot air about nothing, with many people chiming in with points that have no merit.

Arokel
2012-06-07, 06:59 PM
I wonder how many outifts will outright ban the zebra camo for their members lol.

Red Beard
2012-06-07, 07:04 PM
I wonder how many outifts will outright ban the zebra camo for their members lol.

I tend to be a bit of an individualist, but I would join the outfit that does! lol

Arokel
2012-06-07, 07:12 PM
Unfortunately zebra camo is actually effective in certain ways. It is what is called a "dazzle" camo.

Basically when a target is moving quickly zebra and other "dazzle" camos make it harder for a pursuer to determine the target's speed and direction.

Blue
2012-06-07, 07:47 PM
Zebra skin is f%#^# stupid. I hope this is just for beta. I don't see the difference between hello kitty and zebra skin. If it's just for guns that's one thing, but tanks??? galaxies?? Not looking like the game that I've been waiting for in this respect.

Figment
2012-06-07, 07:50 PM
The real question is, are they black suits with white stripes, or white suits with black stripes?

AvacadoEight
2012-06-07, 07:50 PM
So many people butthurt because of a godamn PAINT JOB. Will those of you who dont like it, GET, THE HELL, OVER IT. Its a PAINT JOB, for GODS SAKE. No one's making you use this. You're crying and whining like a 3 year old who lost his loli helps NO ONE.

:rant:

KALU
2012-06-07, 07:51 PM
Guys hold the phone!

I'm sure they are just showing off what is possible with the engine and customizations etc. This "might" make it in game but i think its more of an example of whats possible.

Dreamcast
2012-06-07, 07:51 PM
BRB not gonna get the game because of zebra skin....A skin 99% of players won't get.



lol.....Free 2 Play game= Skins u don't like.

Timealude
2012-06-07, 07:56 PM
can we please get over this already? i mean for god sakes its just a zebra skin if you dont like it dont buy it. higby already said they arent going super far with crazy skins.

Vancha
2012-06-07, 08:28 PM
Ok, let me break this paragraph down for you. You start off by stating that realism != immersion, that's fine. This is obvious.. If you think this is what I'm stating thne reread my post, I was simply stating that in this context zebra camo is not that much of a jump from people running around in bright pink/purple/red/black/blue/yellow jump suit firing funky lazers. As you said, coherence of setting.. I call it context.

It's not like we are going from call of duty'esque full camo to leopard spots.
/Disagree

Unfortunately the rest of the post you are just trying to back up a weak point by trying to attach it to a ludicrous statement about barney in BSG. A common response when struggling to reach a point.
Unless you think Barney fits in seamlessly with BSG, it backed up the point I was trying to make just fine. ;)

If you honestly think that zebra stripes are bad for the game because it breaks immersion then we will have to agree to disagree.. But ask yourself are you not just opposed because it falls slightly outside of the bounds of which you are used to from planetside? Don't get me wrong, I don't give a damn about zebra stripes either way.. I just think this thread is a load of hot air about nothing, with many people chiming in with points that have no merit.
No, I honestly think that silly camo is bad for my personal experience of the game. Having watched the E3 streams over the past few days, the one thing I kept noticing was how completely out of place the camouflage patterns looked, the novelty ones most of all. Each time it popped up, I cringed, but that's just me.

Now if everyone else loves it, then that's fine, but if other people agree it looks bad, I don't see the point of staying quiet just because "oh well, they need to make money", or because it's relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things. We can't speak for a lot of things mechanically until we get to play it, but aesthetics are something we can judge 100% in the position we're in now. Why not give feedback on even the more trivial of things?

And no, I am not someone who opposes things just because they're outside the bounds of what I was used to in Planetside. :p

Top Sgt
2012-06-07, 08:35 PM
can we please get over this already? i mean for god sakes its just a zebra skin if you dont like it dont buy it. higby already said they arent going super far with crazy skins.

lol What's funny is this:

i made this topic only as a poke of fun at NC players as a joke.

never did I think it would grow into this serious presidential debate ha ha

SgtMAD
2012-06-07, 08:41 PM
who cares what the cammo looks like as long as they all still die,

who gives a shit what they choose to wear,its their funeral

I like that zebra pattern,some of you need to go look up the crazy shit they used to paint on ships during WW2

Arokel
2012-06-07, 08:44 PM
who cares what the cammo looks like as long as they all still die,

who gives a shit what they choose to wear,its their funeral

I like that zebra pattern,some of you need to go look up the crazy shit they used to paint on ships during WW2

Behold the USS West Mahomet in 1918!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/USS_West_Mahomet_%28ID-3681%29_cropped.jpg/220px-USS_West_Mahomet_%28ID-3681%29_cropped.jpg

SKYeXile
2012-06-07, 08:51 PM
who cares what the cammo looks like as long as they all still die,

who gives a shit what they choose to wear,its their funeral

I like that zebra pattern,some of you need to go look up the crazy shit they used to paint on ships during WW2

yea really, sif wear a pattern that makes you standout like a large pair of dangley dods balls. its probably a fine pattern for Esaimir though.

FPClark
2012-06-07, 09:05 PM
The reason why these B-24D's had those ridiculous color schemes was so other aircraft could find them and form up... Opposite of camo. 


Who's to say the more outlandish skins cant be used the same way ingame...:rolleyes:

SGTalon
2012-06-07, 09:15 PM
Seems to me that things like flashy skins are going to make for easy targets.

If someone thinks they are good enough to run out there with a neon flashing target on their head, let them.

I can't wait to line one up in my sights.

Malorn
2012-06-07, 09:29 PM
This is starting to look retarded. Exactly what I was afraid of.

Customizations should stick with empire main colors:

TR: red/black-grey
VS: mint/purple
NC: yellow/blue

Hopefully that zebra motif is just T-Ray trolling us, seeing how far they can go before people e-rage. I'm ready to e-rage now dude, stop this madness.

Wholeheartedly agree.

I'm really hoping that all the zebra and hearts crap is just something they threw in for testing and isn't actually going to be available in game.

It will really kill the planetside theme when everyone is running around with ridiculous skins.

FPClark
2012-06-07, 09:35 PM
Wholeheartedly agree.

I'm really hoping that all the zebra and hearts crap is just something they threw in for testing and isn't actually going to be available in game.

It will really kill the planetside theme when everyone is running around with ridiculous skins.

Actually it will litterally have ZERO effect on planetside. If a skin kills a game for you I would hate to see how dissapointed and jaded you are gonna be when you step out into the real world.

Immigrant
2012-06-08, 05:26 PM
Guys it seems that our voices have been heard and those camos are going to be in empire color!!! Listen here:

(url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xcmHYuUbn0&t=37m50s")

Xyntech
2012-06-08, 05:40 PM
Guys it seems that our voices have been heard and those camos are going to be in empire color!!! Listen here:

(url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xcmHYuUbn0&t=37m50s")

I heard that. No confirmation whether that will apply to all camo's, but it seems to be heading in that direction.

I don't really give a shit either way, but I certainly don't mind if they change it to being more faction color centric.

Maybe they will keep the more serious stuff like desert camo, and make the silly ones like zebra be empire colors.

Whalenator
2012-06-08, 06:51 PM
Eh, this is about the limit. People found IRL pictures of vehicles with zebra like cammo.

Anything further is probably pushing it.

But target identification?
Did you see the Alpha footage? Even with empire specific colours we get enough TK. It's going to be a fucking slaughter if you're at night surrounded by a mixture of enemy and friendly zebras.

Arokel
2012-06-08, 06:57 PM
But target identification?
Did you see the Alpha footage? Even with empire specific colours we get enough TK. It's going to be a fucking slaughter if you're at night surrounded by a mixture of enemy and friendly zebras.

I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing at the idea of a "Great Zebra Massacre" occurring.