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Trolltaxi
2012-06-08, 02:00 PM
All the nominations and prizes are great and Purrfectstorm looks so good with all those badges on their wall, but the game went pretty unnoticed...

If you google for 'best in show' or 'best of e3 2012' or similar, you hardly get an article that mentions Planetside 2. Or the game is on the list with 20 other titles (including some random lego sh*t, rayman, splinter cell, dishonored etc...).

Am I the only one disappointed with this?

captainkapautz
2012-06-08, 02:03 PM
The heathens have yet to witness the true glory of the messiah.

xSlideShow
2012-06-08, 02:04 PM
Doesn't matter imo, nothing can stop the word the of mouth. It works with movies it works with games.

The Kush
2012-06-08, 02:04 PM
Hatas gonna hate that's their job and it's 24/7

Raymac
2012-06-08, 02:08 PM
I think the awards are great press, and this is just from a small scale demo. Just wait until the press see what we the players do in beta. They will be blown away by the scale of the game, just as we were with the original. I think Planetside 2 did pretty good for a game still in alpha.

Ohanka
2012-06-08, 02:09 PM
console developers basically pay the gaming media to give them awards and coverage.

Anderz
2012-06-08, 02:09 PM
All the nominations and prizes are great and Purrfectstorm looks so good with all those badges on their wall, but the game went pretty unnoticed...

If you google for 'best in show' or 'best of e3 2012' or similar, you hardly get an article that mentions Planetside 2. Or the game is on the list with 20 other titles (including some random lego sh*t, rayman, splinter cell, dishonored etc...).

Am I the only one disappointed with this?

Being a PC exclusive, PS2 leaves a significant majority of the gaming community out of the loop. And why get excited for a game you can't play?

I, for one, love the game for being a PC exclusive, but you've got to realise how significantly that effects the way it is perceived by the public.

wasdie
2012-06-08, 02:10 PM
To a lot of people they see the potential, but it's really hard to award that game Game of the Show because they only got a glimpse of what it really is.

There were also some other very fantastic looking games at the show. Assassin's Creed 3, Watch Dogs, The Last of Us, Dishonored... they all looked fantastic.

It's a good time to be a gamer.

Gandhi
2012-06-08, 02:13 PM
Sony should have shown it during their press conference. PS3 be damned it would have generated more of a reaction than any of what they actually showed. Like whoopee, more waggle gimmicks and a Smash Bros ripoff, that's what gamers want to see alright.

Gonefshn
2012-06-08, 02:20 PM
Sony's press conference is all about the Playstation brand. It's also very much about showing sponsors and the people with the money how they plan to be succesful in the coming year. These people aren't stupid. If the conference was literally in front of nothing but gamers they would show nothing but games.

That's why you see lots of time on things like Xbox smart glass and wonderbook (god save us) because they are trying to show how they can expand their market and make more money. They are already making money in the gaming market and now they are trying to gobble up all outlets of entertainment to make the profits even greater. The people they are trying to impress in these conferences are the people interested in how the companies are going to make money in the coming year. They need to convince them that they have products people are going to buy, not just games for gamers. It's sad but true.

Planetside 2 got tons of awards and recognition especially for a PC title. Console gaming dominates the market. I honestly cannot believe all the hype I have seen around it since E3 and from sources that are not PS1 vets. Just look how the PSU community has grown! Before it was nothing but PS1 players now it's a community full of Vets and others interested in this new game! Have faith my friend!

MrBloodworth
2012-06-08, 02:22 PM
Wut.

GuyFawkes
2012-06-08, 02:28 PM
I'm encouraged overall .

When the e3 live was being shown , I glanced at the number of people viewing the planetside2 discussion here on planetside universe. It went from around 80+ to 800+ in a matter of minutes.

I looked at a couple of ps2 demos done pre-E3 by total biscuit on youtube for ps2, and it had 386000 views .

If you build it, they will come. Small steps.

Bine
2012-06-08, 02:30 PM
In time... yessss... in time. They will realise their sins and proceed with the general offerings. Soon! Soon...

Higby
2012-06-08, 02:30 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

Ieyasu
2012-06-08, 02:32 PM
All the nominations and prizes are great and Purrfectstorm looks so good with all those badges on their wall, but the game went pretty unnoticed...

If you google for 'best in show' or 'best of e3 2012' or similar, you hardly get an article that mentions Planetside 2. Or the game is on the list with 20 other titles (including some random lego sh*t, rayman, splinter cell, dishonored etc...).

Am I the only one disappointed with this?

looking around on sites like msnbc that have gaming sections I see the same thing. they talk about plenty of games at E3 but no mention of PS2 anywhere from what ive seen.

Geist
2012-06-08, 02:36 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

And you guys deserve them completely. I didn't see anything close to the amount of effort put into TBs E3 PS2 Podcast, and gave plenty of information as well as getting a few of my friends who were on the fence to sign up for Beta. ;)

Kayos
2012-06-08, 02:37 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

That's awesome, you guys deserve it. Game is looking fantastic !!

Gonefshn
2012-06-08, 02:39 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

Remembering Planetside 1 and how under the radar that game was, seeing the reaction and awards for PS2 is really giving me a lot of pride.

I can't imagine how proud it must feel for you to set out to accomplish something so big and be noticed and praised for achieving it! Unlike other games PS2 has something players have likely never even heard of before and that will turn heads, especially when they see that it looks and plays like a AA A title.

Thomas
2012-06-08, 02:39 PM
looking around on sites like msnbc that have gaming sections I see the same thing. they talk about plenty of games at E3 but no mention of PS2 anywhere from what ive seen.

I doubt MSNBC has much voice in the gaming world :P

Ieyasu
2012-06-08, 02:41 PM
Imagine how many awards PS2 would have racked up had they had a whole cont going that was pushing pop lock. They basicly showed off the game with a area the size of a BF3 map and roughly 8 more players than you can have on a BF3 map and still managed to draw alot of positive reaction from people.

Ieyasu
2012-06-08, 02:42 PM
I doubt MSNBC has much voice in the gaming world :P

lulz not claiming theyre the voice of a generation, but there are a great many people who visit sites like those and they are reading about plenty of games shown at E3 just not PS2.

megamold
2012-06-08, 02:45 PM
i think the reviews that will be done at and after launch of the game wil bring to biggest jump in players

Missundaztood
2012-06-08, 02:46 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

Higby.

I don't post much, but I thought I'd just pop in and mention that you are extremely good at what you do. The way in which you present the Planetside (genre? ;) ) on camera/websites in a nutshell during interviews really does hit the nail on the head! Everytime!

For all the games appeal to gamers, you deserve huge amounts of credit (not forgetting the rest of your team of course) for specifically presenting the game in the manner you have and for also using and listening to the existing Planetside community for direction.

Well done chap!

KTNApollo
2012-06-08, 02:48 PM
Once the game is in beta I'm sure all of the major gaming media sites will have access and be able to spread the word.

The Degenatron
2012-06-08, 02:50 PM
http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/prometheus-fassbender.jpg

"Great things have small beginings."

I predict that when PS2 hits its stride, it will rival WoW.

basti
2012-06-08, 02:54 PM
http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/prometheus-fassbender.jpg

"Great things have small beginings."

I predict that when PS2 hits its stride, it will rival WoW.

I say it will beat it to the ground!

GuyFawkes
2012-06-08, 02:57 PM
http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/prometheus-fassbender.jpg

"Great things have small beginings."

I predict that when PS2 hits its stride, it will rival WoW.

looks like he just picked his nose :doh:

Haro
2012-06-08, 03:30 PM
All the nominations and prizes are great and Purrfectstorm looks so good with all those badges on their wall, but the game went pretty unnoticed...

If you google for 'best in show' or 'best of e3 2012' or similar, you hardly get an article that mentions Planetside 2. Or the game is on the list with 20 other titles (including some random lego sh*t, rayman, splinter cell, dishonored etc...).

Am I the only one disappointed with this?

It's all about brand recognition. People are drawn to the Halo's, Call of Duty's, and Tomb Raider's not just by gameplay, but because they are the celebrities of the game world. But many people have voiced frustration with constant sequels and unoriginal concepts, and many really thought that the mainstream games most of the press conferences screened were boring. Planetside doesn't have the recognition or the screen time, but it's free and it's not quite like anything else out there.

Believe me, I get frustrated when I don't see as many articles on gaming sites as I think this game deserves. I think I may have said a bad word or two when I read on IGN that Dust 514 "May be the deepest fps you've ever played." But I think the beta will generate more attention, and people will want to try the game simply because a) it's free, and b) it's pretty unique. But mark my words, people are looking for new gameplay experiences, and the word will get out. This was really Planetside 2's debut, and I think it's only going to grow from here.

Nephilimuk
2012-06-08, 03:49 PM
some people are never happy.

IMO PS2 just cornered a huge amount of mind share and is well and truely above the radar.

Well done PS2 team

Missundaztood
2012-06-08, 04:09 PM
Winning 3 Gamespy awards is pretty damn awesome.

Can you remember a time not long ago when Planetside was on its death bed? No PS player would of dreamed of a showing at E3! That alone is an acheivement.

Shogun
2012-06-08, 04:39 PM
consider that e3 was just a demo with maybe 100 players...
and most of them were not playing very coordinated.

now imagine what the reviews will look like at release, when the whole beta crowd is already fighting coordinated, knowing what to do, developing real strategies!

the team will not be over the moon, they will be over mars or even auraxis!

Trolltaxi
2012-06-08, 04:42 PM
Three IGN prizes? Do you think it is all PS2 deserves?!

And just check this!

"PC gaming has been enjoying a great resurgence and it's encouraging that Charles Onyett found 20 games worth talking about, including impressive mech-shooter Hawken, SimCity and free-to-play shooter PlanetSide 2 [/I[I]]which Anthony Gallegos described as reminiscent of EA's Battlefield series. + PS2 E3 teaser video-link"

That's all PS2 gets in a 2 page IGN article here: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/08/e3-2012-igns-verdict

And that is bad.

The first google hit in my country on a 'planetside 2 e3' search starts with a header like this:

"Do you ever wanted to play an MMOFPS where people stand on their place and keep shooting at each other? If your answer is YES, then we have good news for you: Planetside 2 trailer predicts you'll get exactly that. OK, don't be rude, there are airplanes too..."

This is a small gaming site. But larger ones don't even mention the game at all.

And that is the point where prizes get their importance. No one can ignore a game that wins important prizes especially lots of them. But it seems PS2 follows PS1-s fate, it will remain under the radar for most of the possible players.

Someone (sorry, I'm just too lazy to read back) mentioned that brands like COD or Tomb Raider will get the most attention by rule. OK, but how do you explain the success of the Lego GTA, the Rayman game or Dishonored? Lego series may be a brand, so is Rayman (even if it's just a platformer), but Watchdog or Dishonored?

Why isn't the world noticing the true effort to create a revolutionary game (2000 men working FPS IS a revolution)? Still they whine that there is no evolving, no ideas, only the same year by year?

Clueless
2012-06-08, 04:43 PM
But mark my words, people are looking for new gameplay experiences, and the word will get out.

This.

Planetside broke me. I have never had as much co-ordination, as much adrenaline rushing through my system, or as much constant fun as when I was playing Planetside at its peak.

I have had fun in other games, to be sure. The epic that is Mass Effect (sans 3's ending), Braid, did my stint in World of Warcraft with a fairly successful guild, PvP'ing in EVE, and quite a few other great experiences, but I constantly find myself.. waiting for something more.

And to those who have never played Planetside.. I believe they simply do not know what they missed out on. Keep in mind, we are basically into a whole new generation of gamers (god, I feel old, saying that) so there is a huge new untapped playerbase to hook into the Planetside 'genre' as well. As people keep mentioning, the sheer scale will blow people away.

"How many tanks are on the ground? How many planes are in the air? How many foot soldiers are arrayed before me? How many friends can I get to help me blow them all to pieces?"

The more people we can show this game to, the better. The more people we can get to try it out and play it, better still. I agree with Higby: first major public debut, the first stepping stone, and it can only grow from here. Barring any unforseen and catastrophic screwups, I am so excited to see what happens in the coming months.

kertvon
2012-06-08, 05:17 PM
Honestly I would prefer it that way. Underrated game tend to be some of the best because players migrate to them for the quality of the game and not the hype.

Flisher
2012-06-08, 09:24 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

Lesson learned... next time a AAA title is going to launch F2P, keep the business secret until close to the game launch to avoid the pre-built negative view around f2p...

Unfortunatly the first generation of F2P where utter shit from dying game compagny or asian game that never evolved once launched. The second generation (ddo, aion, lotro, aoc) and the like are nice game that launched over-hyped, scaled down but still remain good game event if they failed in their original business model...

So basicaly, the gamer and media reference are either shitty game, game that didn't succeed in theyr original model, or pay2win...

Don't get me wrong, i'm all about planetside, posting on facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. Being an ex-officer in giant guild (1000 people in wow, 200 people in war, 200 people in aoc, 200 in swtor), I'm trying to preach for planetside but alot of people block at the f2p due to bad past example.

Timey
2012-06-08, 09:28 PM
The "leading" mag here in Finland hasn't mentioned planetside since 2011. Pissess me off. They even had an E3 blog: nothing about planetside. Meh, can't do much about it.

Sabrak
2012-06-09, 09:19 AM
Not a single word for Planetside 2 on the #1 french speaking videogame website either.

I'm pretty damn mad at them, they sneakly posted PS2 trailer (around 1200 views and 9 comments, which is very little for the size of the site), took pictures of the TR-NC-VS "cosplays" (proving that they did walk by), but they still focused only on big names, big producers, and "E3's Babes".

They made reports and previews of Watch Dogs, based on a 10 minutes gameplay footage, but didn't take the time to actually give PS2 a try.

Idiots.
I'm not gonna use their website anymore, they're useless.

demonicale
2012-06-09, 11:46 AM
You guy's have done such a great job!, i'm not surprised.

Trolltaxi
2012-06-09, 11:48 AM
The "leading" mag here in Finland hasn't mentioned planetside since 2011. Pissess me off. They even had an E3 blog: nothing about planetside. Meh, can't do much about it.

Not a single word for Planetside 2 on the #1 french speaking videogame website either.



Finland, France and Hungary. That's about 80 million people. OK, not 80 million possible cannon fodder. Gaming press in these countries are ignoring Planetside 2. And I'm sure there are more countries with the same issue.

That's like 1/3 of the US population - like whole East Coast would be unaware of the game's presence.

Finland and Hungary is already pro7sat.1 area, at least they have tv channels and radio stations. Still not a word of the game.

Hmr85
2012-06-09, 11:53 AM
I thought PS2 got great coverage at E3. There is a ton more info out there now then there was prior to the show. I have absolutely no doubt the game is going to be a huge success. I think you will really see it spread like wildfire when beta finally kicks in. As soon as those videos of 2000 players going at it hit the internet then you will really see this game get a huge amount of publicity along with a huge increase in numbers. I standby that prediction. :)

Red Beard
2012-06-09, 09:33 PM
Honestly, I'm 100% over the moon with the reaction we got at E3.

As a free to play game, it's tough to even get some journalists to come to see you, once they did they "got it" and were blown away. We knew we were going to impress and have a great show, but no one was expecting us to be nominated for or win as many awards as we did and we're insanely grateful for the recognition.

It's seems 'Planetside' is still ahead of it's time...Except this time the E3 dinos are going to be crawling back when the realize how big this boat is! :lol:

NCLynx
2012-06-09, 09:34 PM
E3 (IMO) is still majorly based around console games. So the fact that PS2 did as well as it did with the majority of the people there looking more at console games is awesome.

headcrab13
2012-06-09, 10:43 PM
Actually I think PS2 garnered an impressive amount of attention at E3 and I've been blown away for the last few days visiting IGN, Gamespy, Gamespot, PCGamer, etc and seeing all these new articles about E3 impressions and preview videos of the game. Great job SOE and PS2 team!

Stew
2012-06-09, 10:47 PM
All the nominations and prizes are great and Purrfectstorm looks so good with all those badges on their wall, but the game went pretty unnoticed...

If you google for 'best in show' or 'best of e3 2012' or similar, you hardly get an article that mentions Planetside 2. Or the game is on the list with 20 other titles (including some random lego sh*t, rayman, splinter cell, dishonored etc...).

Am I the only one disappointed with this?

I was pretty sure gametrailers and ign will mainly suport huge company tittle and multiplatform games mostly its like thats for years

Planetside was underated in my point of view but at least they win many prize !

fod
2012-06-09, 10:51 PM
Actually I think PS2 garnered an impressive amount of attention at E3 and I've been blown away for the last few days visiting IGN, Gamespy, Gamespot, PCGamer, etc and seeing all these new articles about E3 impressions and preview videos of the game. Great job SOE and PS2 team!

same here
until i saw this thread i thought planetside 2 was getting huge coverage reading all the articles thats been around the last few days

RadioFIN
2012-06-11, 01:58 PM
Maybe it's hard to realize when it's your own game we're talking about, but I think you deserved even way more. Seriously, something like Watch Dogs doesn't even compare to Planetside 2. Sure, Watch Dogs has pretty good graphics but the gameplay looked pretty boring. The player walked around pressing buttons on his phone and shot some baddies. Planetside 2 has awesome graphics too, but the gameplay seems a thousand times more fun and interesting. Really, thousands of people fighting against each other in a lasting battlefield, but the gameplay is still on par with the newest "room-based" shooters with very interesting vehicular gameplay and a shitload of customization. All that for free. How was this not the most recognized game in E3?
Planetside 2 is really something special and yet it only got moderate recognition.
Maybe most people just don't think like me then.

Trolltaxi
2012-06-11, 02:12 PM
I had a rant about it on my blog, I mostly blamed gaming press for their lack of awareness for new trends.

MMOFPS will be the trend of the second decade of the 2000s, just like WOW and the likes dominated the first. And while the gaming press is busy whining about lack of new ideas and original concepts, they remain ignorant when something is forming infront of their very eyes.

Meriv
2012-06-11, 02:17 PM
I am not a PS1 player.

I think the problem is quite bad marketing, i mean i loooked soo many times for a MMO, and sometimes specific FPS mmo, i remember how i looked like crazy in MMOHUT looking for something like PS2, i got soo frustrated that i replegated to Unity 3d games (fast ones to not get addicted :) like "begone"). I mean until 5 days ago and i looked for the top 5 of some x guy in youtube i was totaly ignorant about the existence of PS world, and it is not like i am not a gamer (even if last 3 years i droped a lot) and they got to the almost beta version withouth even having done any pubblicity, they have to learn from Wargamming they are already doing the trailer for war of battleships and they probably havent even started to put a team toghether (ok they have) but the pubblicity of war of warplanes started realy realy early with a lot of the fan support from point 0.

What i think that will make PS2 realy succesfull is the F2P, it will go crazy with the quality u got out there, u will attract a lot of new markets players (i lived in 5 different countries and i kknow what is to play in a private Wow server) like Brazilians and Turkey ppl or east europe ones. The big error that sony is doing is not doing a massive marketing advertising like the one from WOT and an ever bigger error to not make this last/final moments of PS1 free, i would surely play PS1 eventhought its graphics to learn about PS world and learn the tactics and to like prepare myself but comon 15$ for a 10 years old game?

Vanu Techpriest
2012-06-11, 02:25 PM
Because it's not Call of Warfare Modern Duty 7 or Halo 14.

Seriously though, Sony may have underestimated how popular this game would be since PS1 was somewhat of a niche game that never really saw big numbers. I expect that they will be ramping up their marketing budget especially as we get closer to release.

Zetsubo
2012-06-11, 02:36 PM
I think PS2 is already taking the correct approach in marketing. the cooperation with TotalBiscuit was brilliant: loads of content and well commentated. IMHO, marketing through Youtube channels like TotalBiscuit, Yogscast etc. is the future. These people have a reputation of being fair, even when biased, and often provide the kind of candid, straight-to-the-point reviews that official press nowadays lacks.

Also, these channels can reach a staggering amount of people. For example: Guild Wars 2. I played GW1 on and off for 3-4 years (since the release of the Factions expansion) and I never heard about a sequel until approx. 6 months ago, when I saw a preview from TotalBiscuit at Gamescom. Recognizing the potential, Anet opened up a beta event for press only, inviting TotalBiscuit, Yogscast, Gamebreaker and others to play, and after that the interest in the game just skyrocketed. If SOE continues to invite people like TotalBiscuit for testing then the interest in PS2 will drastically increase.

HalfManHalfGod
2012-06-11, 03:02 PM
E3 is like the show "American Idol", the best singer never wins.

chipshop
2012-06-11, 04:52 PM
i only read very positive feedback on PS2 from E3. the majority of journalism i have read seems to be more focused on the complete lack of originality comin from the big productions (which are havin a huge amount of money pumped into them). a powerful amount of which were cover based gore shooters - maybe that is just the sections demoed but little impressed.

anythin written about PS2 has been great - like nothin negative i have seen. its the game all PC fps shooters are gaggin for. a game which doesn't rely on cheap tactics to give a sense of excitement.