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Goku
2012-06-09, 09:40 PM
Looking for opinions as to whether or not your desktop or laptop will run PS2? Well ask here. Please at least provide your specific CPU, GPU, and resolution so people can help. These are only educated guesses as we do not have any kind of system requirements from SOE yet.

From Smedley's Twitter:
John Smedley ‏@j_smedley

It is fair to say this is going to be a higher spec game than most. A core 2 duo with an 8800gt isn't going to be fun

Some of you may be needing a upgrade that we previously said would be manageable.

What configurations have been confirmed to run the game:

Higby noted that the game was running good on a Intel Core i5 quad core and a GTX 560.

Totalbiscuit was playing the game smoothly on a laptop with two Nvidia video cards in SLI. I haven't seen specific specs for this laptop unfortunately.

At E3 the systems were running a GTX 670 and playing great on 2560x1600. If I had to guess it was either a i5 or i7 in the system too.

If you have seen any other references to performance of components stated from a official source please PM me, so I can add it here.

Here is a table showing the best to worse GPUs out there currently:

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5936/requirementspeculation.jpg

Credit to Duddy for the picture.

Bags
2012-06-09, 10:03 PM
670 isn't on there.

Oh and another note, is 2500x1600 is 2x the pixels as 1900x1080 and still ran well on a 670!

Rbstr
2012-06-10, 12:20 AM
The 670 pretty much goes in that first open space on the nVidia side.

Duddy
2012-06-10, 05:18 AM
The 670 pretty much goes in that first open space on the nVidia side.

Pretty much, this was basically adapted from Tom's Hardware's May Review (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32442-7.html) of the "best" GPUs for your money, so the 670 just missed out (As they did it a little early).

So credit to Tom's for the table, I just added an arrow.

As an addition, I'd like to point out the lowest card we've actually heard the team say was the 9800 GTX, I included some lower GPUs as they can probably run the game, but the experience probably would be sub optimal.

Bags
2012-06-10, 05:42 AM
Fixed: http://i.imgur.com/R3VrH.png

Baneblade
2012-06-10, 11:54 AM
Even if my laptop does play PS2, it is going to suck balls.

Athlon 2000+, GeForce 9500M, and 3 Gb of RAM.

Been getting delayed in building a new machine :(

Shott
2012-06-10, 03:50 PM
Bought this desktop in 2010. Didn't know much about computers then or I would have just built my own.

Gateway SX2840: http://reviews.cnet.com/computer-sys...-33963397.html

Everything is stock except the GPU. So that means,
6GB memory
1 TB HD
Intel i3 2.93 GHz

The GPU was purchased a year or so ago. Because the PC is slim, I had to get a low-profile card. I went with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102875

What are the chances I'll be able to play on low-medium? If not, is there any way that I can upgrade to be able to? There's not a lot of room in the case as is... but I'll try anything!

Also, I can run Tribes Ascend fine on medium settings with this computer.

Goku
2012-06-10, 03:57 PM
Going with the five year base mark they talked about I'm assuming a high end rig from back in 2006. That would be a 8800 GTX along with a C2D.

Your CPU should easily meet the requirements of running the game, though the GPU is a bit weak. Probably going to be playable on at least lower settings with the resolution around 1280x1024 or 1280x720. What resolution do you run tribes?

As for upgrading low profile really is a pain to get a good video card. Probably best off upgrading to a new computer when PS2 finally comes out in my opinion.

somers
2012-06-10, 05:02 PM
I'm not too smart when it comes to PC upgrading so I will post my specs and hopefully you can tell me what needs upgrading... (also tell me if i need to post any more info about my system)

Motherboard: Manufacturer- Pegatron Corp, Model- Benicia, Version- 1.01, serial#-MS1C8AR51604185
Processor: Intel Core Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
RAM: 4 sticks of DDR2 memory (4 GB)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 240
Monitor: HP w1907 Wide LCD (1440x900)

NivexQ
2012-06-11, 01:53 AM
I'm not too smart when it comes to PC upgrading so I will post my specs and hopefully you can tell me what needs upgrading... (also tell me if i need to post any more info about my system)

Motherboard: Manufacturer- Pegatron Corp, Model- Benicia, Version- 1.01, serial#-MS1C8AR51604185
Processor: Intel Core Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
RAM: 4 sticks of DDR2 memory (4 GB)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 240
Monitor: HP w1907 Wide LCD (1440x900)

GPU, then CPU. Memory should be ok, but it couldn't hurt to get more (It's real cheap nowadays). Monitor is irrelevant.

At it's current state, I don't think your PC will run PS2. If it does, it will pushing it.

somers
2012-06-11, 12:24 PM
GPU, then CPU. Memory should be ok, but it couldn't hurt to get more (It's real cheap nowadays). Monitor is irrelevant.

At it's current state, I don't think your PC will run PS2. If it does, it will pushing it.

Edit: Screw it im moving this to a different thread... :lol:

Shott
2012-06-11, 02:02 PM
Going with the five year base mark they talked about I'm assuming a high end rig from back in 2006. That would be a 8800 GTX along with a C2D.

Your CPU should easily meet the requirements of running the game, though the GPU is a bit weak. Probably going to be playable on at least lower settings with the resolution around 1280x1024 or 1280x720. What resolution do you run tribes?

As for upgrading low profile really is a pain to get a good video card. Probably best off upgrading to a new computer when PS2 finally comes out in my opinion.


Thank you for your assistance. I'll definitely be purchasing a new computer once the game officially releases. I play Tribes in 1360/768 on Medium.

Duke
2012-06-11, 05:53 PM
Here's a ~$300-350 build by Logan from teksyndicate, modified by a guy on the buildapc subreddit. I only want a budget PC for playing PS2, and not much else, which is why I found this build interesting. All in all, I'm looking for the absolute minimum you could go, while still playing PS2 relatively well.

I'm still doing my research to catch up on 10 years of advancements in PC's (last build was in 2003 for PS1), so I wanted some input from other PS players more knowledgeable on the subject regarding the quality of a budget rig like this. Chances are I'll lean more towards his $550 rig with the i3, unless PS2 really doesn't need a more expensive build.

Completely disregard my post if this build is laughable in the face of PS2! Without an official word on the minimum from soe, I'm quite clueless.

The video
Kill Your Console! Build a $350 Gaming Rig - June 2012 - YouTube

The reddit post
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/uwmhr/kill_your_console_heres_my_350_gaming_pc/

The modified build (see vid or article in reddit post for original $350 build)
CPU: Intel Celeron G540 2.5GHz Dual-Core
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6570 1GB
Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155
Power Supply: Antec 380W ATX12V / EPS12V
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333

other stuff in the build, think an SSD would be better suited:
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5900RPM
Case: Apex SK-393-C ATX Mid Tower Case
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer
Total Price: $308.08

Goku
2012-06-11, 06:16 PM
6570 is a pretty low end card and I would never recommend that for anyone looking to game. If someone does they should be looking at the 7700 series or GTS 450/GTX 550 Ti minimum these days.

Rbstr
2012-06-11, 06:33 PM
Why would you add and SSD that, in appreciable size, costs %50 of the build?
I find it hilarious that $310 machine uses $90, ninety dollars, on a 1.5tb hard disk!

Hard disk speed is about the last thing you put in the upgrade priority if you're looking for game performance (obviously, if you're just screwing around on the internet or doing spreadsheets this is different). A Graphics card is #1, CPU and ram are next depending.

It's one thing to build a full-spec ~1k machine for PS2 right now, that'll play PS2 unless nothing current plays PS2.
Going bargain basement before we have experience with it is begging to have a crap experience. Not to mention if you need a PC for PS2 you're always going to get a better machine cheaper the closer to release you get.

Exmortius
2012-06-12, 12:16 PM
i'll have to look at home what my new rig is specifically but it's incredibly stable for most stuff imo. never crashed once playing bf3 surprisingly so should be able to handle this i'm hoping.
8 core amd bulldozer 3.6.....stock speed and fan atm i know i'm lazy never upgraded. originally purchased a zalman fan but had issues with it and just returned it. thing was such a pain in the arse to mount to the mb i said f this and sent back lol. probably just get a water cooler eventually and go nuts on this if we get a beta launch date i might look into dropping one of those on prior to launch.
think i only got a 1 gig ati card atm but i forget the model # if i upgrade anything probably just be my vid card.
16 gig of ram currently should be enough >.>
2 - 1 TB 7200 spin seagates....never got ssd cause i just thought they were stupid overpriced atm and i currently don't really pc game much at least not til ps2 beta happens.

figure i'll roll with what i got til beta happens and see if there is anything i can tweak to make it run better after beta launch.

i always run ubuntu 10.10 linux unless i play bf3 atm just fyi. although i've had to manually configure the dual nic in that version of ubuntu anytime i update my os lol. just one of those quirks. if i get a ssd drive though i will probably drop win7 and planetside 2 beta on that and then dual boot and test drive the new version of mint or ubuntu. i pretty much avoid windows anymore like the plague unless i need it. my laptop is a mac book pro bout 2 years old now running logic pro....all i use that for is recording cause the apps are much more stable and easy to use. pc sucks for recording audio from my experience.

Barb
2012-06-12, 05:22 PM
Where do you guys think a top of the line mobile card like the Radeon 7970m or Geforce 680m will fit on that list?

Vancha
2012-06-12, 05:35 PM
Where do you guys think a top of the line mobile card like the Radeon 7970m or Geforce 680m will fit on that list?
No idea, but they should both play PS2 comfortably.

Edit: I think this probably qualifies as the least helpful, most worthless post I've ever submitted in the tech forum.

Goku
2012-06-12, 05:39 PM
Where do you guys think a top of the line mobile card like the Radeon 7970m or Geforce 680m will fit on that list?

7970M is 7800 series desktop level. The 680M is GTX 570 level, but below the GTX 580.

Rbstr
2012-06-13, 01:31 PM
Hehe, first faction to bribe me at the proper threshold shall receive bonus folding@universityscientificcomputercluster

;)

Hmr85
2012-06-13, 04:32 PM
My setup below is:
Mobo: ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Processor:AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Ram: 8gb of Gskill Ripjaws memory DDR3 - 1600mhz

Should I be able to Play PS2 with my current setup? My biggest fear out of all of it is my Graphics Card. Do you think I will need to upgrade it?

Bags
2012-06-13, 04:34 PM
Probably on low/med if you're on a low resolution.

Hmr85
2012-06-13, 05:05 PM
Dam, Looks like I am going to be upgrading my graphics card then. Any recommendations on what I should get with my current setup?

Goku
2012-06-13, 05:13 PM
HMR your setup should be ok. I would expect medium settings at least. Potential upgrades in the future? You would be looking at getting a Vishera PileDriver octo core from AMD coming this fall. As far as GPU? What resolution are you playing?

Hmr85
2012-06-13, 05:24 PM
Hey Goku, I usually play on 1680X1050 resolution because that is the max that I can set it at.

Also, I will definitely look into the octo core.

Goku
2012-06-13, 05:42 PM
Still awhile till release, but I would look into that verse going for say a 8120/8150. It will likely have far higher clocks, improved ipc, and wattage. Basically what BD should of been.

1680x1050? I would wait out for the GTX 660 brings personally. 670 would be way over kill and a waste of money imo. AMD you would be looking at a 7850.

Hmr85
2012-06-13, 06:03 PM
Thanks for the help Goku. I really appreciate it. :rock:

Ailos
2012-06-13, 07:27 PM
Just installed this on my work PC. Kinda weird to see all 4 cores and both GPUs at 100% load, but eh, I got plenty of fans in the case.

Greeniegriz
2012-06-13, 07:29 PM
Just installed this on my work PC. Kinda weird to see all 4 cores and both GPUs at 100% load, but eh, I got plenty of fans in the case.

Great! Thanks for participating.

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Ailos
2012-06-13, 08:06 PM
I just throttled it back a little bit to be just on the GPUs, but now I noticed that it doesn't actually run on the second GPU - a Radeon HD 4350. Any clue how I can fix that?

EDIT: I read into it, and they just don't have any more job assignments for those Core 11 ATI GPUs.

Loomx
2012-06-13, 08:16 PM
I've always wanted to be a part of Folding@home, and it'll be great to help out the PSU team. This is truly awesome work anyone with a gaming PC can do when they're not using it.

Greeniegriz
2012-06-13, 08:17 PM
Ah yes, if there's no work it will sit idle. One of my computers does that from time to time.

Also I assume your using one worker slot for each gpu?

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Greeniegriz
2012-06-13, 08:27 PM
I've always wanted to be a part of Folding@home, and it'll be great to help out the PSU team. This is truly awesome work anyone with a gaming PC can do when they're not using it.

Oh yea, even a few hours of folding a day can make a difference.

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Ailos
2012-06-13, 10:26 PM
Ah yes, if there's no work it will sit idle. One of my computers does that from time to time.

Also I assume your using one worker slot for each gpu?

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Yeah, I have 3 slots (2 GPUs and 1 quadcore), but the older HD 4350 is sitting on standby because they don't have any work for it right now, so only 2 slots are active. Still, I'm gonna be letting it run 24/7, so I'll be posting that rig's scores soon.

Greeniegriz
2012-06-13, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I have 3 slots (2 GPUs and 1 quadcore), but the older HD 4350 is sitting on standby because they don't have any work for it right now, so only 2 slots are active. Still, I'm gonna be letting it run 24/7, so I'll be posting that rig's scores soon.

Roger that. Should get decent PPD with that setup.

I'll keep an eye on the Team Stat page, you should show up once it updates (provided a work-unit is completed).

Cheers,

GG

CardiffGreens
2012-06-14, 12:28 PM
Ah, I got Folding@Home on my PS3 - I'll see if I can join in the fun through there as well =)

Boom! Done and done, now to sit and watch my PS3 fry itself, and watch my electricity bill skyrocket =D

Greeniegriz
2012-06-14, 12:37 PM
Ah, I got Folding@Home on my PS3 - I'll see if I can join in the fun through there as well =)

Boom! Done and done, now to sit and watch my PS3 fry itself, and watch my electricity bill skyrocket =D

Welcome aboard! Curious to see how well it works PPD wise.

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Lazaruz
2012-06-15, 05:58 PM
I'm not the most tech-savvy guy out there, nor am I made of money, so I'm even afraid to ask what my verdict is with this laptop:

i5 480M 2.67 GHz
GeForce GT 540M
8G RAM

I'm just hoping that I will be able to run the game with the lowest possible settings available.

Edit: I remember that someone compared PS2 to Crysis or whatnot, so I found a vid that uses the same specs as I have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129h4iaGVcI

Shiftfaced
2012-06-15, 06:05 PM
Good to see the 560 ti is only a few levels down from the top. I should have a nice looking experience by the looks of it. My tv is only capable of 1080p so I can't run it at the max res but hopefully I can run mostly everything else at high settings.

Vancha
2012-06-15, 07:22 PM
I'm not the most tech-savvy guy out there, nor am I made of money, so I'm even afraid to ask what my verdict is with this laptop:

i5 480M 2.67 GHz
GeForce GT 540M
8G RAM

I'm just hoping that I will be able to run the game with the lowest possible settings available.

Edit: I remember that someone compared PS2 to Crysis or whatnot, so I found a vid that uses the same specs as I have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129h4iaGVcI
I'm confident that your laptop will run PS2 with decent settings in qVGA.

PvtHazard
2012-06-15, 10:12 PM
I have a PC with specs like this

FX-4100 3.6GHz
8GB DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB

Will this run PS2 at least on medium settings?

Goku
2012-06-15, 10:54 PM
Due to the weaker CPU and low range GPU I would say low settings, maybe some medium in there if you are lucky.

julfo
2012-06-16, 08:23 AM
Just installed this thing and joined the team, i think. I'm getting around 5500 ppd, dunno if that's good. That's running on my old Sapphire 6790.

Greeniegriz
2012-06-16, 10:37 AM
Just installed this thing and joined the team, i think. I'm getting around 5500 ppd, dunno if that's good. That's running on my old Sapphire 6790.

Welcome aboard! That's pretty good I think for a 6790.

Cheers,

GG

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Goku
2012-06-16, 12:22 PM
This thread is only for seeing if your computer can potentially run PS2 and possible upgrades. If you want full out advise on new parts, please don't clutter this thread with that. Make your own.

VOWS Flawless
2012-06-17, 02:17 AM
My setup below is:
Mobo: ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Processor:AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Ram: 8gb of Gskill Ripjaws memory DDR3 - 1600mhz

Should I be able to Play PS2 with my current setup? My biggest fear out of all of it is my Graphics Card. Do you think I will need to upgrade it?

-My CPU is a 955 3.2 phenom quad core
-My GPU is an evga gtx 550 Ti fpb

I've played Battlefield 3 with everything maxed out on a 64 person server at 1600x900 resolution. My frames per second almost never dropped below 40. I suspect you'll be able to play at high-max settings if Planetside 2 requirements are similar. Don't waste money on a new card just yet.


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/mike433/flawsigbanner1.jpg

Hmr85
2012-06-17, 08:04 AM
Thanks for the update VOWS Flawless, I was waiting for beta myself before I hit go on any purchases. But yeah I run pretty much the same as you in BF. So I was hoping for the same.

Goku
2012-06-17, 09:27 AM
The 955 is a stronger quad core vs the 4100 as much as that sounds to be wrong. The cores in the 4100 are a lot weaker due to AMD's new design they took on with BD. There probably be a noticable difference between your cpus if this game only uses two cores.

Ruffdog
2012-06-18, 03:58 PM
My setup, if anyone can comment on potential settings I could reach:

CPU: Intel i5-750 at 3.2GHz (160MHz*20)

RAM: Ripjaw 8GB DDR3 (1600 MHz)

GPU: HD 5770 1GB

Hard Drive: OCZ-VERTEX2 SSD

Many thanks :)

Vancha
2012-06-18, 04:28 PM
My setup, if anyone can comment on potential settings I could reach:

CPU: Intel i5-750 at 3.2GHz (160MHz*20)

RAM: Ripjaw 8GB DDR3 (1600 MHz)

GPU: HD 5770 1GB

Hard Drive: OCZ-VERTEX2 SSD

Many thanks :)
I think we need people to start including their resolution...

At 1280x1024 you'll probably be fine, at 1900x1080 you might need to turn off some of the extravagant stuff.

Ailos
2012-06-18, 06:25 PM
You should be able to run on at least medium preset at 1080p. I've got a 5770, too, so also waiting to see how it does.

Goku
2012-06-18, 06:29 PM
I think we need people to start including their resolution...

At 1280x1024 you'll probably be fine, at 1900x1080 you might need to turn off some of the extravagant stuff.

Agreed. Updated OP.

Magpie
2012-06-18, 08:18 PM
I use macs now adays but using my old PC, dont think it will play ps2.

CPU: intel core 2 duo

Ram: 2gb

Geforce 8400

thanks

Rbstr
2012-06-18, 09:26 PM
I use macs now adays but using my old PC, dont think it will play ps2.

CPU: intel core 2 duo

Ram: 2gb

Geforce 8400

thanks

Maybe on low settings and resolution...but yeah, you're boned.
You could run Windows on the Mac...but you aren't looking at a great gaming machine unless you spend your kidney on a Mac Pro.

Magpie
2012-06-18, 09:36 PM
Maybe on low settings and resolution...but yeah, you're boned.
You could run Windows on the Mac...but you aren't looking at a great gaming machine unless you spend your kidney on a Mac Pro.

Don't think a mac air 2011 gonna cut it :/

Cheers hoping I can run it can run call of duty 4 but not tryed anything stronger

Greeniegriz
2012-06-18, 09:57 PM
Closing in on our first 100k points. More folders welcome! Just a few hours a day can make a difference!

Cheers,

GG

Ailos
2012-06-19, 02:05 PM
Don't think a mac air 2011 gonna cut it :/

Cheers hoping I can run it can run call of duty 4 but not tryed anything stronger

MacBook Air can barely run YouTube... you're going to need some stronger hardware there, mate.

Goku
2012-06-19, 02:24 PM
You could maybe get away with a GPU upgrade on that C2D to make PS2 playable on at least minimum Magpie. There are some factors however. If and when you want more advice feel free to make a thread on it.

Ailos
2012-06-19, 02:44 PM
Toms' Hardware has posted another one of their handy hierarchy charts, which I've marked up for our purposes here.

The Low-Med-High-Ultra scale is somewhat of a guess on my part right now, and is by no means what the game may actually require (it may turn out that only the very top tier is high/ultra, and the one below it is already medium).
http://www.planetside-universe.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=669&stc=1&d=1340131460

Your CPU should be able to bear with the load, but your GPU would be causing you to scrape the bottom of the setting scale. It would probably be playable if you upgraded the GPU to something like an HD 6770.

Rbstr
2012-06-19, 04:41 PM
Honestly, I don't think the CPU is going to matter that much for graphics scaling.

You can't turn gameplay physics off so, if your CPU can't handle it, it won't matter what your graphics settings are.


I find it super funny that AMD's best only stacks up with 4 gens ago's i5/i7s

Greeniegriz
2012-06-19, 09:58 PM
Congratz on 100K+ points team.

One Million here we come!

Cheers,

GG

Ailos
2012-06-19, 10:02 PM
Honestly, I don't think the CPU is going to matter that much for graphics scaling.

You can't turn gameplay physics off so, if your CPU can't handle it, it won't matter what your graphics settings are.


I find it super funny that AMD's best only stacks up with 4 gens ago's i5/i7s

True, PS2 will probably be much more of a CPU-bottlenecked game than a GPU one... perhaps even the most CPU-bottlenecked of all given how many players SOE is aiming for.

Also, not only is AMD pretty low on that list, but I think it's quite disappointing that even its own modern architecture isn't at the top of the list.

The Kush
2012-06-20, 12:26 PM
Intel Core i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.8GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1066 FSB)
6 GB DDR3 System Memory (3 Dimm) (expandable to 16 GB)
500GB (7200RPM) Hard Drive (SATA)
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
15.6" Diagonal Full High Definition LED HP Ultra Brightview Widescreen Display (1920x1080)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830 (M97) witth up to 3835MB total graphics memory with 1 GB dedicated

Processor, Memory, and Motherboard-
Hardware Platform: PC
Processor: 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7
Number of Processors: 4
RAM: 6 GB
RAM Type: SODIMM
Hard Drive
Size: 500 GB


Can anyone tell me if this will be good? That chart says my graphics card is the minimum but the AMD site says my graphics card is really good. This laptop was $2000+ so I hope it will be good. Thanks for the help!

Goku
2012-06-20, 12:35 PM
Graphics card was higher end back in 2009 when it released. Now however not so much hence why its low on the chart. However on a lower res like 1280x720-1600x900 I would expect a mix of low and med setting. 1920x1080 I see it starting to choke.

The Kush
2012-06-20, 12:52 PM
Graphics card was higher end back in 2009 when it released. Now however not so much hence why its low on the chart. However on a lower res like 1280x720-1600x900 I would expect a mix of low and med setting. 1920x1080 I see it starting to choke.

Okay thank you Goku!

Rbstr
2012-06-20, 03:28 PM
Can anyone tell me if this will be good? That chart says my graphics card is the minimum but the AMD site says my graphics card is really good. This laptop was $2000+ so I hope it will be good. Thanks for the help!

You think they'd tell you it was a shit card?
It was ok even though it was mobile, now it's both old and mobile so it's fallen quite far.

TheBladeRoden
2012-06-20, 08:52 PM
OS
Windows 7 64-bit

CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 GHz

Motherboard
Intel DP35DP

Memory
4 GB PC2-5300 667 MHz

Graphics Card(s)
Asus ENGTX460

Sound Card
Creative Xtreme Fatality

Monitor(s) Displays
Acer V193w

Screen Resolution
1440x900

Hard Drives
Samsung HD502HJ
Seagate Barracuda 320GB

PSU
Startech ATX2PW550PRO

Goku
2012-06-20, 09:02 PM
I will say high settings with yours.

Bags
2012-06-20, 11:10 PM
I will say high settings with yours.

Yeah my 460 did BF3 on high/medium at 40-50 fps.

Zaerath
2012-06-21, 10:18 AM
I'm thinking I might be able to get away with high settings on this rig (I built it back in 2010). I'll probably need a GPU upgrade to run it on ultra-high. Confirmation anyone?

CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Thuban 45nm Technology)

RAM
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 535MHz (8-8-8-20)

Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 (AM3)

Graphics
1023MB GeForce GTX 460 (PNY)
1920x1080 (the same res I prefer to game at)

Goku
2012-06-21, 10:24 AM
Your processor is still good as is the GTX 460. If you want to run max you may need a GPU upgrade to may it tolerable (50+ FPS average).

Mutant
2012-06-21, 11:27 AM
True, PS2 will probably be much more of a CPU-bottlenecked game than a GPU one... perhaps even the most CPU-bottlenecked of all given how many players SOE is aiming for.

GPU vs CPU bottleneck is highly user case dependent, since resolution/setting can be changed to move the GPU demand, the CPU demand is generally fixed.

In essence once you have a CPU that meets the games demand having higher CPU performance wont yield much improvement.

for GPU there is almost no limit to how high you can keep pushing demand by increasing the settings and resolution.

Similarly you can remove demand by reducing the resolution / settings and in doing so you could prob push GPU requirement so low that for a lot of user cases the CPU becomes the bottle neck but most people like to play with settings set a high a possible.

so to complete my ramblings;
It is very important to have a good enough CPU but once you cross that threshold GPU is king.

I suspect and decent quad core from ~Q6600+ and almost certainly a Q9400+ would not be a bottleneck




Also, not only is AMD pretty low on that list, but I think it's quite disappointing that even its own modern architecture isn't at the top of the list.

Bulldozer looks more favorable (though in general still behind intel) when you look at modern game engines designed to use all the cores. BF3 and DE:HR for example. I would hope PS2 can use more than 4 cores well.

Ailos
2012-06-21, 06:46 PM
It is very important to have a good enough CPU but once you cross that threshold GPU is king.

That depends on the game, and in some cases, even how you play it. Skyrim doesn't have a significant multiplayer component or stuff blowing up ALL the time (like we would expect of PS2), it's built much more for eye-candy and pretty scenery, so it tends to be more taxing on the GPU than just about any other game.

WoW on the other hand, has pretty rudimentary graphics, not the least because it was originally released back in 2004. But it IS an MMO, which means the CPU has a lot more work to do tracking all the players' actions (which aren't scripted, so have to be done real-time), and is a lot more taxing on the CPU. You could have a GTX 690, but if you've got a Celeron, you're still going to be stuck at med-high settings and 40 FPS in a raid.

BF3 has both of those put together, which is why it requires such a high-end system to run it well.

We're expecting PS2 to be taking both of those issues out of proportion. The textures that they've showed us so far look GORGEOUS. And because it's a game that is truly massively multiplayer, you're going to have at least hundreds of people fighting within drawing distance. The high-level physics, ballistics, and logistical tracking HAVE to be done by the CPU, outright. AND the textures are incredibly high-detail, as is the geometry. So to play on ultra settings, you're going to need cutting edge of both GPU and CPU here. "Good enough" will not apply to PS2 like it does to WoW.




Bulldozer looks more favorable (though in general still behind intel) when you look at modern game engines designed to use all the cores. BF3 and DE:HR for example. I would hope PS2 can use more than 4 cores well.

Bulldozer isn't slow because it has too many cores, it's slow because its architecture is simply inefficient at getting data from point A to point B. If cores were everything, BD would have been better than SB-E. And is it?

Rbstr
2012-06-21, 07:56 PM
WoW on the other hand, has pretty rudimentary graphics, not the least because it was originally released back in 2004. But it IS an MMO, which means the CPU has a lot more work to do tracking all the players' actions (which aren't scripted, so have to be done real-time), and is a lot more taxing on the CPU.

I disagree with this. Path finding for an AI is WAY more taxing than someone, or a dozen, running around.

Player input, that is movement, looking ect. is easy because it's on human time scales and a CPU is just way beyond that.

The issue is what calculations the inputs spawn. BF3's sound system is pretty involved for instance, latency-compensation for player movement, physics for the dozen objects an explosion spawned.

If these things are game-play important and not optional, every system has to do them. That's why you need "good enough" and after that it doesn't matter much at all.
The northwood-Celeron with a 690 would be able to run at high nearly as well as it would run on low - it would run like crap in all settings.
Something in the last 3 gens of i5 or better probably will probably be above the bar and the graphics card will be the main differentiation in performance.

Ailos
2012-06-21, 08:07 PM
Path finding for an AI is WAY more taxing than someone, or a dozen, running around.

Exactly. This is why SC2 is usually a CPU-bottlenecked game.



Player input, that is movement, looking ect. is easy because it's on human time scales and a CPU is just way beyond that.

The northwood-Celeron with a 690 would be able to run at high nearly as well as it would run on low - it would run like crap in all settings.


That's true, except the issue here with a true MMO is that your and the hundreds of others' input has to be processed pretty pretty quickly for everyone to see the same stuff on the screen. And this has to go through the communication protocol that is usually managed by your OS (i.e. your CPU) since it needs to go out the ethernet cable and to the server. Server-side processing can help here, but it can't do 100% of the load and you need some client-side calculations to cope with the packet nature of the internet. Perhaps WoW wasn't the best choice for an example on my part here, but it's a pretty universal truth that the slowest experiences you have in WoW is in the capitals, where everyone likes to hang out (and not out in the dungeons or raids).

The problem with MMOs (esp. true MMOs like PS1/2) here isn't that stuff has to be processed quickly, it's that a LOT of stuff has to be processed simultaneously. That's why PS1 was always gasping for extra resources back in 2003, and that's why PS2 is going to be such a demanding title.

Perhaps that's where properly threading a game like PS2 will enable it to run well, but as McHurtz is quick to point out, not everything can be threaded.


Something in the last 3 gens of i5 or better probably will probably be above the bar and the graphics card will be the main differentiation in performance.

Agreed. My point here is that sadly, AMD's current flagship is only really competetive compared to the 1st gen i5. And that's a shame, 'cos I can't help but feel somewhat ripped off as a consumer.

Bags
2012-06-21, 10:44 PM
Watch out, there's someone in main discussion telling people off for GUESSING how well their video card will run it. Hopefully he doesn't find this thread or he'll aneurism.

Goku
2012-06-21, 11:04 PM
Hopefully he won't cause anymore ruckus over this.

Zaerath
2012-06-22, 12:52 PM
The high-level physics, ballistics, and logistical tracking HAVE to be done by the CPU, outright.

This is not actually true.... Most of the ballistics and physics are controlled by the GPU. Look up the PhysX technology that nVidia purchased and puts in their cards now.

BulletExodus
2012-06-22, 01:48 PM
Do you guys think that video cards such as these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121434

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127573

would be able to run the game on decent settings given that all the other specs on the computer (Processor, RAM, Memory) passed well?

Bags
2012-06-22, 02:51 PM
Wouldn't a 460 be better buy?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130750

Roughly the same price, better performance in games. Anyway, if you get either you should see good fps on low/med, depending on resolution.

Goku
2012-06-22, 02:58 PM
Bullet if you want full out advice please make your own thread, since you are looking to buy parts. I need to know your computer specs and PSU before I recommend anything.

Rbstr
2012-06-22, 03:36 PM
Yes...but I'm not terribly enthusiastic about cards in the price range/once you get below the x60 level. I'd guess medium, maybe some low.

BulletExodus
2012-06-22, 07:16 PM
Well I'm sorry for throwing all that out there, I'm just not familiar with current market graphics cards since I've been using a laptop for 3 years, haha.

Goku
2012-06-22, 07:44 PM
Thats totally fine. We are here to help :D.

Bags
2012-06-23, 10:32 PM
I'd join in, but I don't think I could stand any more heat. Maybe in the fall / winter. :)

slackr
2012-06-24, 10:13 AM
Sager np8150
i7 2760qm
amd 6990m - 1920x1080
500gb hybrid hd
8gb ddr3
windows 7 ult

I should be fine, yes? I could always upgrade the video card if needed... gotta love sager laptops

Electrofreak
2012-06-24, 10:48 AM
Even if my laptop does play PS2, it is going to suck balls.

Athlon 2000+, GeForce 9500M, and 3 Gb of RAM.

Been getting delayed in building a new machine :(

Right there with you Sobe. The gaming desktop is down (bad mobo and little chance for replacement any time soon what with the fact I'm buying a house) and my laptop is pretty piss-poor.

Intel T4300 dual-core at 2.1 GHz apiece, 4 GB of DDR2 RAM, and the integrated (shudder) Intel GMA 4500M.

:( Looks like I'm going to be bottoming out the graphics and crossing my fingers when Beta hits.

Goku
2012-06-24, 10:59 AM
Sager np8150
i7 2760qm
amd 6990m - 1920x1080
500gb hybrid hd
8gb ddr3
windows 7 ult

I should be fine, yes? I could always upgrade the video card if needed... gotta love sager laptops

Yes you will be fine. Not sure on maxing out the game, but you will certainly be above default settings.

Right there with you Sobe. The gaming desktop is down (bad mobo and little chance for replacement any time soon what with the fact I'm buying a house) and my laptop is pretty piss-poor.

Intel T4300 dual-core at 2.1 GHz apiece, 4 GB of DDR2 RAM, and the integrated (shudder) Intel GMA 4500M.

:( Looks like I'm going to be bottoming out the graphics and crossing my fingers when Beta hits.

I can tell you right now a GMA 4500M will not run this game in any fashion. I think you are screwed unfortunately.

What mobo do you need to replace on your desktop?

Aaramus
2012-06-24, 11:05 AM
(unsure of model name)
AMD Anthlon IIx4 640 3.0ghz
Quad core
8GIG RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6450
Win 7 Ult

Will this at least be able to run PS2 on medium? If not I'm looking into a GTX 550ti to give it a bit more power.

Goku
2012-06-24, 11:09 AM
Normal settings? I don't think so. Don't bother with the GTX 550 Ti however. GTX 460 is a stronger card for a cheaper or similar price. Do not let the 5XX branding trick you into that. I think the GTX 650/660 is being released tomorrow, so that maybe open up more options to you. Make sure you have the proper PSU to be putting in a higher power graphics card. I'm assuming the one you have now is prebuilt.

Vamoozi
2012-06-24, 11:41 AM
What about this? Really rough specs, i cant renember them right now and im not on my PC (wich is kinda old now.)

2,7 GHz Dual core thingy
NVidia 9800 GT with 512mb ram.
2GB RAM
WIndows XP
Resolution is 1024:768


I;m able to run Tribes: ascend on low graphics and I hear that PS2 will have a bit lower requirements, so, will it be enough? (enough to run the game reliably, even on lowest graphics possible)

Aaramus
2012-06-24, 11:49 AM
Yeah it was from a pc building company local to me, I had an awful pc before and they built me my current one for a reasonable amount.

I will look into the 460 then. Do you know how much the 650/60 will be as I have a relatively low budget (just finished A levels).

Goku
2012-06-24, 11:54 AM
What about this? Really rough specs, i cant renember them right now and im not on my PC (wich is kinda old now.)

2,7 GHz Dual core thingy
NVidia 9800 GT with 512mb ram.
2GB RAM
WIndows XP
Resolution is 1024:768


I;m able to run Tribes: ascend on low graphics and I hear that PS2 will have a bit lower requirements, so, will it be enough? (enough to run the game reliably, even on lowest graphics possible)

Given your resolution and card you will be able to run the game. Not exactly sure of the settings, but some varation should be playable.

Yeah it was from a pc building company local to me, I had an awful pc before and they built me my current one for a reasonable amount.

I will look into the 460 then. Do you know how much the 650/60 will be as I have a relatively low budget (just finished A levels).

Any idea on the PSU?

The 650/660 will be ranging from $150 to $250 I think.

Aaramus
2012-06-24, 12:20 PM
Any idea on the PSU?

The 650/660 will be ranging from $150 to $250 I think.

I just opened it up to have a look, for like the first time.
Wasn't quite sure on what you wanted so I wrote some stuff down.

Casecom Model: ATX 350W

115/230V 10A/5A 60/50Hz

yeah thats around what I'm looking to pay, do you know if they will be released in the UK as well?

Goku
2012-06-24, 12:22 PM
350W? Regardless of quality you are going to at least one a 500W PSU to be running a 460. Probably recommend the same for these upcoming cards as well.

Aaramus
2012-06-24, 12:24 PM
Crap so I need to get a new PSU as well?

Do you think I'll be able to run PS2 smoothly at all on my current set up, even on the lowest settings?

Goku
2012-06-24, 12:29 PM
You can get this GTX 460 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130749) and this 520W PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030) for $200.

For me a 8800 series card is the bottom of the barrel that this game may run at for a good experience. You maybe able to run this game 800x600 on low settings, but its going to suck. I would advise upgrading still.

Aaramus
2012-06-24, 12:34 PM
I think I will upgrade, as the PSU's I've been looking at are relatively cheap (around £20/$30) and I was going to get a £150ish card anyway.

Thank you so much for the help, otherwise I probably would have gotten the card without a new psu.

Akrasjel Lanate
2012-06-24, 12:46 PM
Wonder will my GT 220 will be enough so far i don't have no problem with it and he games i play.

Goku
2012-06-24, 12:55 PM
I think I will upgrade, as the PSU's I've been looking at are relatively cheap (around £20/$30) and I was going to get a £150ish card anyway.

Thank you so much for the help, otherwise I probably would have gotten the card without a new psu.

When you are ready to finally order please make a thread. That way we can sort you with the proper parts. I don't advise getting a cheap PSU either. If that blows it can take your whole system with it.

Wonder will my GT 220 will be enough so far i don't have no problem with it and he games i play.

What are the rest of your specs and resolution?

Aaramus
2012-06-24, 01:00 PM
When you are ready to finally order please make a thread. That way we can sort you with the proper parts. I don't advise getting a cheap PSU either. If that blows it can take your whole system with it.

I will most likely get a 1gig GTX460 from amazon and this PSU

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/ocz-zs550w-uk-atx-psu-550w-11342068-pdt.html

Reason I'm looking at these is that Newegg doesn't seem to ship to the UK, which is a shame as the prices are fantastic.

Akrasjel Lanate
2012-06-24, 01:08 PM
What are the rest of your specs and resolution?

NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Windows XP
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)
2046MB RAM
1440 x 900

Mepper
2012-06-24, 02:29 PM
My specs:

Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT
2.4 Gigaherz quadcore processor
2 gigs of RAM.

Do you think this will be enough? The computer is 5 years old, and at that time this was the best. And SOE said PS2 should run on a 5 year old machine. I don't care about which graphics, just interested if this will work. (My videocard wasn't in the list.)

Goku
2012-06-24, 02:54 PM
@ Aaramus

That PSU is a good choice. I'm not the best on Euro pricing though. Vancha is better with that.

NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Windows XP
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)
2046MB RAM
1440 x 900

Personally I don't see this graphics card being that good for this game. If it has a chance you will be doing a low resolution and low graphics. Not too enjoyable IMO. CPU is ok. You would probably need a GPU upgrade. Nothing too fancy unless you are planning on a new rig in the next year. You could also use a bit more ram imo.

My specs:

Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT
2.4 Gigaherz quadcore processor
2 gigs of RAM.

Do you think this will be enough? The computer is 5 years old, and at that time this was the best. And SOE said PS2 should run on a 5 year old machine. I don't care about which graphics, just interested if this will work. (My videocard wasn't in the list.)

8600 GT actually wasn't that good of a card even back then. The 5 year quote in my opinion is referring to a higher end system from back then. Like a 8800 GTX. With that this really isn't a good computer to be playing the game with. I could see you benefiting from a GTX 460. If that is a Q6600 you have that is still a OK processor. Just depends on your PSU.

If any of you want actual upgrade advice for specific parts please post a thread. I will need to know the PSU model you have, type of case, and if its prebuilt what one it is. I don't want to clutter this thread up with going through parts and such. It will be harder to keep track of everyone as well.

Maniox
2012-06-24, 03:24 PM
Running a 2.9 ghz AMD athlon quad core 635.

16gb dual channeled ram

HDD 5770 512mb vram version.

Think i'll run it at medium with a 1440x900 monitor?
Thinking of upgrading to either an 6950 2gb, but they dont sell those here anymore, or a gtx 560TI 2gb.

Bags
2012-06-24, 03:46 PM
What about this? Really rough specs, i cant renember them right now and im not on my PC (wich is kinda old now.)

2,7 GHz Dual core thingy
NVidia 9800 GT with 512mb ram.
2GB RAM
WIndows XP
Resolution is 1024:768


I;m able to run Tribes: ascend on low graphics and I hear that PS2 will have a bit lower requirements, so, will it be enough? (enough to run the game reliably, even on lowest graphics possible)

That's probably bare minimum, but since your resolution is small you might be able to run it low with good fps.

Running a 2.9 ghz AMD athlon quad core 635.

16gb dual channeled ram

HDD 5770 512mb vram version.

Think i'll run it at medium with a 1440x900 monitor?


Most likely.

Goku
2012-06-24, 03:51 PM
GTX 560 Ti 2GB isn't a good option as it doesn't have the power to even drive 2GBs of vram. If you really want a 2GB card look at the 7850 imo.

Grognard
2012-06-24, 04:14 PM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @2.83
GPU: PNY GeForce GTX460 1024MB GDDR5
RES: 1920x1080 native on Samsung SyncMaster B2430
(I am ok with lower resolution, perhaps 1600x900)
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 7 64BIT

I will need to by a second computer for my daughter to play PS2 also, so I need this one to run it pretty decent. Am I good to go with this thing? Im pretty sure I can run it, just concerned about lots of people on screen being tactical with smoke effects... etc.

Goku
2012-06-24, 04:21 PM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @2.83
GPU: PNY GeForce GTX460 1024MB GDDR5
RES: 1920x1080 native on Samsung SyncMaster B2430
(I am ok with lower resolution, perhaps 1600x900)
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 7 64BIT

I will need to by a second computer for my daughter to play PS2 also, so I need this one to run it pretty decent. Am I good to go with this thing? Im pretty sure I can run it, just concerned about lots of people on screen being tactical with smoke effects... etc.

Your system is still pretty up to date to be honest. The game should be playable above normal setting even at 1920x1080, likely not max. 1600x900 probably can max it out though.

Grognard
2012-06-24, 04:33 PM
Your system is still pretty up to date to be honest. The game should be playable above normal setting even at 1920x1080, likely not max. 1600x900 probably can max it out though.

Very happy to hear, thank you Goku.

Sephirex
2012-06-24, 07:08 PM
I'm a little nervous. It's been some time since I upgraded.
Just hoping its playable on low settings.

4 gb ram
32-bit windows
2.4 quad-core
ATI Radeon HD 5700
1280 x 1024 Monitor

Goku
2012-06-24, 07:50 PM
I'm a little nervous. It's been some time since I upgraded.
Just hoping its playable on low settings.

4 gb ram
32-bit windows
2.4 quad-core
ATI Radeon HD 5700
1280 x 1024 Monitor

At your resolution you can do normal with ease.

Sephirex
2012-06-24, 07:55 PM
At your resolution you can do normal with ease.

Much appreciated.

Maniox
2012-06-25, 09:25 AM
7850 it is then, it's at the same price as the 6950 but runs cooler, quieter and faster :)

hwcompare misled me into thinking it was not worth it...

Ailos
2012-06-25, 10:52 AM
I'd join in, but I don't think I could stand any more heat. Maybe in the fall / winter. :)

Gonna do that with my home computer come October. My apt heater less powerful than my PC.

Rbstr
2012-06-25, 11:17 AM
You can get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130620
for 260 with a mail in rebate.

Better deal than a $250 7850, IMO considering the PhysX/PS2's nVidia ties.
But really, either one will be a decent choice.

Goku
2012-06-25, 11:25 AM
7850 has a lot of pros going for it. The lower power usage, 2gb vram, good performance out of the box, and high overclock potential. If he overclocks that it will go by a 570 no problem.

PsychoXR-20
2012-06-26, 02:00 AM
Only two games have ever concerned me on whether or not my computer could play them, PS1 and now PS2:

CPU: Core2Duo E7200 (Dual Core) 2.53 GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560ti 1GB
RAM: 4GB
Resolution: 1920x1080

I'm not overly concerned with the graphics, I have no problem turning those settings down, it's mainly my CPU that I am worried about.

Mepper
2012-06-26, 04:42 AM
@


8600 GT actually wasn't that good of a card even back then. The 5 year quote in my opinion is referring to a higher end system from back then. Like a 8800 GTX. With that this really isn't a good computer to be playing the game with. I could see you benefiting from a GTX 460. If that is a Q6600 you have that is still a OK processor. Just depends on your PSU.



I looked everything up, this are my specs:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (So that should be fine :))
500 GB HDD
2GB DDR II RAM
Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT up to 1020 MB (What does that mean? I looked on another site and it said the memory of the 8600 GT was just 256 MB.)

Would this be enough to run the game on the lowest possible settings, I mean EVERYTHING turned down, even by console if the menu doesn't allow it. Could I than get a reasonable fps?

Mutant
2012-06-26, 05:23 AM
I looked everything up, this are my specs:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (So that should be fine :))
500 GB HDD
2GB DDR II RAM
Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT up to 1020 MB (What does that mean? I looked on another site and it said the memory of the 8600 GT was just 256 MB.)

Would this be enough to run the game on the lowest possible settings, I mean EVERYTHING turned down, even by console if the menu doesn't allow it. Could I than get a reasonable fps?


the 8600 GT came in 3 versions 256MB, 512MB and 1GB, it also came in DDR2 or DDR3. yours will be 1 of these.

But that's a bit academic since i doubt 8600 will run the game smoothly no matter your settings.
To put it into perspective the 8600 was about 25-33% as powerful as the 8800GTX
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-2008-q3/Sum-of-FPS-Benchmarks-1920x1200-AA,801.html


I think you may also have problems with only 2GB of ram, I suspect PS2 has been coded with a minimum of 3-4GB in mind.


If you can get something like a GTS 450 you could prob play on minimum settings on a low resolution. (There should be plenty of cheap 2nd hand ones about)

If you can find another 2 GB of ram and something like a GTX 460 to throw in your box you should be good to go on med settings.

Goku
2012-06-26, 09:45 AM
Only two games have ever concerned me on whether or not my computer could play them, PS1 and now PS2:

CPU: Core2Duo E7200 (Dual Core) 2.53 GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560ti 1GB
RAM: 4GB
Resolution: 1920x1080

I'm not overly concerned with the graphics, I have no problem turning those settings down, it's mainly my CPU that I am worried about.

GPU you are all set. CPU is actually bottlenecking that card I bet. You will be able to play the game, but not as well as some else with say a Core i5 2500+GTX 560 Ti.

Ailos
2012-06-26, 11:07 AM
Only two games have ever concerned me on whether or not my computer could play them, PS1 and now PS2:

CPU: Core2Duo E7200 (Dual Core) 2.53 GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560ti 1GB
RAM: 4GB
Resolution: 1920x1080

I'm not overly concerned with the graphics, I have no problem turning those settings down, it's mainly my CPU that I am worried about.

GPU you are all set. CPU is actually bottlenecking that card I bet. You will be able to play the game, but not as well as some else with say a Core i5 2500+GTX 560 Ti.

The only thing that may or may not suck about it is that you need to swap out your motherboard for one with a newer socket to upgrade to anything more modern. Otherwise, your only real upgrade is to a C2Q-Q9550 ($380): http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-2-83GHz-1333MHz-BX80569Q9550/dp/B0012WDMNC/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340722692&sr=1-11&keywords=core2+quad+socket+775

It'd be actually slightly cheaper for you to buy a new motherboard and processor for it, and that would put you very high up on the CPU scale. If you're interested in doing that, feel free to make your own thread, so we can help you pick out the parts and sort any compatibility issues.

Mutant
2012-06-27, 05:50 AM
Only two games have ever concerned me on whether or not my computer could play them, PS1 and now PS2:

CPU: Core2Duo E7200 (Dual Core) 2.53 GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560ti 1GB
RAM: 4GB
Resolution: 1920x1080

I'm not overly concerned with the graphics, I have no problem turning those settings down, it's mainly my CPU that I am worried about.

The only thing that may or may not suck about it is that you need to swap out your motherboard for one with a newer socket to upgrade to anything more modern. Otherwise, your only real upgrade is to a C2Q-Q9550 ($380): http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-2-83GHz-1333MHz-BX80569Q9550/dp/B0012WDMNC/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340722692&sr=1-11&keywords=core2+quad+socket+775


If it was me i would keep a eye on ebay for one of the following CPUs for a direct replacement into your current PC. This will be your cheap option. (check your motherboard that any CPU is supported though, some 775 boards don't support all 775 socket CPUs)

Q9450 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Q9450&_sacat=164&_odkw=Q9550&_osacat=164)
Q9550 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/CPUs-Processors-/164/i.html?_nkw=Q9550) <- best that you have a good chance of getting at ok price
QX9650
QX9750

These would also go but you are starting to get a bit weak.

Q9300 <-- Quad version of the Dual you currently have
Q9400
Q9500

You also have the Q8x00 quads and E8x00 duels that would be an upgrade but hardly worth it.


I have generally had good experiences with used CPUs but its always a little risky.

JoeBro
2012-07-02, 10:10 AM
Here's what I've got.

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

CPU
Intel Core i7 960 @ 3.20GHz 135 °F
Bloomfield 45nm Technology

RAM
12.0 GB Triple-Channel DDR3 @ 531MHz (7-7-7-20)

Motherboard
DELL Inc. 0X501H (CPU 1) 106 °F

Graphics
DELL U2410 (1920x1200@59Hz)
1024MB GeForce GTS 240 (nVidia) 148 °F

Hard Drives
977GB Western Digital WDC WD1001FAES-75W7A0 ATA Device (SATA) 110 °F

Audio
Creative X-Fi Audio Processor (WDM)

I got this as a graduation present in 2010 (Yes, it's a Dell :doh:)
I'm able to run BF3 at all medium settings on a lowered resolution 1280x800 and it runs around 45 fps. I want to be able to run this game on highest settings around 60fps. My monitor is a Dell 24 inch monitor - native res. is 1920 x 1200. Can anyone help me out?

Goku
2012-07-02, 10:36 AM
Depends on your PSU and budget. If you can throw money around I would look into a GTX 670 for $400. The GT 240 I wouldn't even try playing BF3 with that lol.

JoeBro
2012-07-02, 11:42 AM
I'm trying to aim for a GTX 560 ti - but I don't know much about PC parts, so I'm not sure if my PSU would be able to handle it, and I don't even know if my motherboard would let it connect. How can I find those out first?

Goku
2012-07-02, 11:45 AM
Motherboard is all set. Can you link me to your dell from their support site?

JoeBro
2012-07-02, 11:55 AM
Motherboard is all set. Can you link me to your dell from their support site?

Not sure if this will work but I looked it up by service tag.
http://www.dell.com/support/troubleshooting/us/en/19/index?c=us&s=dhs&cs=19&l=en&servicetag=GZ6XJM1

EDIT: Here's the other page I was looking for: http://www.dell.com/us/en/bpi/desktops/desktop-studio-xps-9000/pd.aspx?refid=desktop-studio-xps-9000&s=bpi

Goku
2012-07-02, 02:13 PM
Looks like a 475W PSU. I would be looking into a new one then. Between a 600W and GTX 560 Ti you are looking at around $300 to upgrade. If you want further advice on this please make your own thread. Just trying to avoid cluttering this thread up too much.

mobiusonegto
2012-07-02, 08:44 PM
I have not built a computer since i got back from iraq in 2006....i just bought a new asus ROG laptop....here are the specs

Intel [email protected] Ghz
16 Gb of ram
NVidia GeForce GTX 560M

if yall can give me an honest thought and opinion of if you think this well be good to play, i have been reading yalls post...and everything yall are saying is so lost on me...im in afghanistan for the next 2 months...or i would look it up myself...i just dont have the time...please help....
if yall could give me like a scale of 1-10 of how well you think this will do say with all settings and stuff set to 3/4 or so

Ailos
2012-07-02, 09:11 PM
I have not built a computer since i got back from iraq in 2006....i just bought a new asus ROG laptop....here are the specs

Intel [email protected] Ghz
16 Gb of ram
NVidia GeForce GTX 560M

if yall can give me an honest thought and opinion of if you think this well be good to play, i have been reading yalls post...and everything yall are saying is so lost on me...im in afghanistan for the next 2 months...or i would look it up myself...i just dont have the time...please help....
if yall could give me like a scale of 1-10 of how well you think this will do say with all settings and stuff set to 3/4 or so

At medium setting, your laptop should be fine, especially if you run it at less than full HD. The 560 M is the weak link, but its several tiers above where we think will be the minimum.

mobiusonegto
2012-07-02, 09:25 PM
At medium setting, your laptop should be fine, especially if you run it at less than full HD. The 560 M is the weak link, but its several tiers above where we think will be the minimum.

If i wanted to upgrade the graphics in my Asus, would it be possible, what could my laptop handle, and where would i go to do it??

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G74SX-AH71-17-3-Inch-Gaming/dp/tech-data/B005UUS6MO/ref=de_a_smtd

ASUS Republic of Gamers G74SX-AH71 17.3-Inch Gaming Laptop

any help you could give me would be great

Goku
2012-07-03, 08:45 AM
If i wanted to upgrade the graphics in my Asus, would it be possible, what could my laptop handle, and where would i go to do it??

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G74SX-AH71-17-3-Inch-Gaming/dp/tech-data/B005UUS6MO/ref=de_a_smtd

ASUS Republic of Gamers G74SX-AH71 17.3-Inch Gaming Laptop

any help you could give me would be great

Most hear probably know just about as much as you concerning upgrading a laptop's GPU. I recommend searching around if its possible and if it is going to notebookreview.com forum to see what the best option for you is.

Ailos
2012-07-03, 09:24 AM
If i wanted to upgrade the graphics in my Asus, would it be possible, what could my laptop handle, and where would i go to do it??

http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G74SX-AH71-17-3-Inch-Gaming/dp/tech-data/B005UUS6MO/ref=de_a_smtd

ASUS Republic of Gamers G74SX-AH71 17.3-Inch Gaming Laptop

any help you could give me would be great

Though your laptop has extra space for additional hard drives, upgrading a gpu on any laptop isn't that easy, and not really something that can be done on your specifically. Each laptop is designed with a specific processor's heat output in mind, and swapping a component can disturb that balance. Also, modern laptops will actually have the gpu soldered onto the motherboard, so replacing it means replacing the mobo, too.

The other aspect about any upgrade path for your laptop is the fact that the best mobile graphics from NVidia are currently the 580M (with the 680M too new to be viable yet). It's not that much more of upgrade in performance, especially if we consider the fact that it will cost at least $700.

Your laptop looks like it was designed to dissipate heat well. If your experience supports this (I.e. you don't notice overheating often), you could try overclocking it a bit to regain some of that performance that was lost when they dialed everything down to fit inside a laptop's thermal design. To do this, you need a cooling pad that helps the fans move more air through the vents, and probably a beefier power supply. But if done right, you could move to the performance of the 580M at about $200.

Otherwise, I recommend saving your cash and effort until you get stateside. For about $1000 we could spec you a gaming desktop that will be capable of running the game on high settings.

mobiusonegto
2012-07-03, 06:31 PM
Though your laptop has extra space for additional hard drives, upgrading a gpu on any laptop isn't that easy, and not really something that can be done on your specifically. Each laptop is designed with a specific processor's heat output in mind, and swapping a component can disturb that balance. Also, modern laptops will actually have the gpu soldered onto the motherboard, so replacing it means replacing the mobo, too.

The other aspect about any upgrade path for your laptop is the fact that the best mobile graphics from NVidia are currently the 580M (with the 680M too new to be viable yet). It's not that much more of upgrade in performance, especially if we consider the fact that it will cost at least $700.

Your laptop looks like it was designed to dissipate heat well. If your experience supports this (I.e. you don't notice overheating often), you could try overclocking it a bit to regain some of that performance that was lost when they dialed everything down to fit inside a laptop's thermal design. To do this, you need a cooling pad that helps the fans move more air through the vents, and probably a beefier power supply. But if done right, you could move to the performance of the 580M at about $200.

Otherwise, I recommend saving your cash and effort until you get stateside. For about $1000 we could spec you a gaming desktop that will be capable of running the game on high settings.


thanks for you help, but with the arrangement that my wife and i have are that its one computer at a time. I still have my desktop that I built back in 2006, so it's a nogo for the new desktop. However, I have not had any issues with overheating on this Beast of an Asus out here in the 'Ghan...but then i havent really gamed on it yet. I will check out overclocking it once i get home. Again, thanks for your help.

Landtank
2012-07-03, 06:51 PM
Here's my specs:

Operating System: Windows 7

Processor: i5 2410m 2.4ghz overclock to ~3.0ghz

Video Card: Nvidia GT 540m

RAM: 6GB

Motherboard: Asus K53sv something or another.

Goku
2012-07-03, 11:31 PM
Here's my specs:

Operating System: Windows 7

Processor: i5 2410m 2.4ghz overclock to ~3.0ghz

Video Card: Nvidia GT 540m

RAM: 6GB

Motherboard: Asus K53sv something or another.

I would say you are going to be on lower settings. GPU is the issue not CPU. Gonna have to wait for beta for a proper feel out.

nattpyre
2012-07-04, 04:18 AM
Got the following (lower budget) gear, assembled about a year ago.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
Mainboard: Asus M4A87TD (AMD 870 chipset)
8 GB RAM (DDR3)
Nvidia GeForce GTX460

I guess this should be good enough to get 1080p in a decent quality.
What do you think? I'm not into that tuning and pimping for ultra superperfect quality at 200fps, but e.g. BF3 is running great at Very High quality in 1920x1080.

Ailos
2012-07-04, 11:41 AM
Yeah that should be good.

Duke
2012-07-05, 02:29 PM
What's psu's take on AMD's Trinity APU? Could it potentially be a cost effective way to play decently?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-trinity-apu,3241-11.html

Goku
2012-07-05, 02:41 PM
What's psu's take on AMD's Trinity APU? Could it potentially be a cost effective way to play decently?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-trinity-apu,3241-11.html

I wouldn't TBH. If you are really crash strapped this CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399) and GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127606) will give a better PS2 experience I am almost sure of. Comparing the current pricing on the top of the line AMD CPU for $120 vs this combo for $150 will net you a lot better performance for $30 more. I would only be looking into a Trinity for a cheap laptop that can play games ok to a a wicked small form factor case that you cannot use a regular gpu with. Desktop doesn't really have space for these IMO.

Ailos
2012-07-05, 02:54 PM
I wouldn't TBH. If you are really crash strapped this CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399) and GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127606) will give a better PS2 experience I am almost sure of. Comparing the current pricing on the top of the line AMD CPU for $120 vs this combo for $150 will net you a lot better performance for $30 more. I would only be looking into a Trinity for a cheap laptop that can play games ok to a a wicked small form factor case that you cannot use a regular gpu with. Desktop doesn't really have space for these IMO.

I agree. The only place an AMD APU really makes sense is a laptop, or something that is otherwise in a quite tiny form factor. Trinity improves on what AMD has learned from Llano, but if you're serious about gaming, almost any entry-level discrete card will give you better performance. I guess, in a way, you could think of the APU as being THE most entry-level graphics you can have, but what makes it attractive as a mobile solution is the fact that it doesn't get gimped anywhere near to the same extent as what the discrete mobile chipsets do.

Mutant
2012-07-06, 04:19 AM
I wouldn't TBH. If you are really crash strapped this CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399) and GPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127606) will give a better PS2 experience I am almost sure of. Comparing the current pricing on the top of the line AMD CPU for $120 vs this combo for $150 will net you a lot better performance for $30 more. I would only be looking into a Trinity for a cheap laptop that can play games ok to a a wicked small form factor case that you cannot use a regular gpu with. Desktop doesn't really have space for these IMO.

I totaly agree Trinity really is a laptop/small form factor chip only (wins this segment hands down in my eyes)

I don't think it will play PS2 in anything other than low/rock bottom settings.

But If you really only have $120 for CPU+GPU it is the best.

I think for $120 you cant get a better CPU and a better GPU from an intel+nvidia combo.

Most review/previews I have seen show you need a Intel Core i3-2100 before you beat Trinities CPU That i3 is $120 for just the CPU. (although the G850 for $90 can do better in single thread).

Trinities GPU is about the same as a Radeon HD 6570, a GTS 430 /620 gets beaten by the 6570 for $60, a GTS 450 should beat trinity for $70


So $150 (125%) to be on par with trinity and $190 (158%) to convincingly beat it.


So Trinity is great for $120 But yeh who cant find another $50 to then blow it out the water.

Shadows
2012-07-06, 11:11 AM
ASUS P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI x 16 ATX Intel Motherboard
core 2 duo E6700 conroe 2.66GHz
9800GTX
4 gigs DDR2 800

Haven't played any games on it in a few years so I can't say how it holds up with anything new...just hoping it doesn't choke on ps2.

Is my motherboard too old for any upgrades that are worth a shit?


Using a 22 inch tv for a monitor right now, but when I set it to 1920x1080 it just looks...off. Been keeping it at 1360x768 and it looks good. My last display was the same size, but a monitor, and looked great at 1680x1050 (think that was the res). Are TVs not as good as a PC display or am I doing something wrong?

I also have my old 8800gt laying around. Would I see any benefit throwing it in there and running it SLI with the other card? I've heard mixed opinions on running non-identical dual video cards. I've never done anything but single cards myself though.

Thanks for any advice.

*edit* using XP 32 bit

Ailos
2012-07-06, 11:41 AM
ASUS P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI x 16 ATX Intel Motherboard
core 2 duo E6700 conroe 2.66GHz
9800GTX
4 gigs DDR2 800

Haven't played any games on it in a few years so I can't say how it holds up with anything new...just hoping it doesn't choke on ps2.

Is my motherboard too old for any upgrades that are worth a shit?


Using a 22 inch tv for a monitor right now, but when I set it to 1920x1080 it just looks...off. Been keeping it at 1360x768 and it looks good. My last display was the same size, but a monitor, and looked great at 1680x1050 (think that was the res). Are TVs not as good as a PC display or am I doing something wrong?

I also have my old 8800gt laying around. Would I see any benefit throwing it in there and running it SLI with the other card? I've heard mixed opinions on running non-identical dual video cards. I've never done anything but single cards myself though.

Thanks for any advice.

*edit* using XP 32 bit

Your system is what will probably end up being listed as the minimum requirements. You'll be able to try out the gameplay, but not much else.

Your direct upgrade paths include a Core2 Quad Q8300 (or better) and pretty much anything up to a GTX 570 - at $180+ for the CPU and $150+ for the GPU. This would not require that you buy anything other than the CPU and GPU. Often times, the power supply is also something that ends up being replaced, but if you already have a 9800 GTX in there, it can probably handle anything else we throw at it with no sweat. If you're considering an upgrade, feel free to make your own thread so we can help you find the right parts and make sure everything will fit before you order.

As far as SLI: there's a couple things you have to watch out for here.

First, there's microstuttering - a phenomenon that happens on both SLI and Crossfire; read about it here (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995-15.html). In a nutshell, in an SLI/XFire configuration, each card is tasked with rendering alternating frames, and sometimes, one card can take longer to render the frame than the previous card, making each frame's screen time unequal. E.g. at 100 fps, each frame should occupy the screen for 10 ms, but due to microstuttering, frame 1 might stay there for 15 ms while frame 2 appears for only 5 ms. The average is still 100 FPS, but to us humans, it appears as much lower. This issue is more aggravated when the two (or three) GPUs are dissimilar.

Second, both of those cards are pretty big power hogs. I wouldn't recommend having both of them in there unless you have a 750+ W power supply.

If you're wanting to put both of them to work (and have the PSU to do it), I'd recommend using the 8800GT as a dedicated PhysX card rather than an SLIed mate. Alternatively, you can do the same with the 9800 GTX and a new GPU (if you end up upgrading).

Goku
2012-07-06, 12:04 PM
9800 GTX and 8800 GT cannot be SLIed. Two different GPUs. Best case is using the 8800 GT as a ded physx card if PS2 makes use of it.

Shadows
2012-07-07, 11:32 PM
Your system is what will probably end up being listed as the minimum requirements. You'll be able to try out the gameplay, but not much else.

Your direct upgrade paths include a Core2 Quad Q8300 (or better) and pretty much anything up to a GTX 570 - at $180+ for the CPU and $150+ for the GPU. This would not require that you buy anything other than the CPU and GPU. Often times, the power supply is also something that ends up being replaced, but if you already have a 9800 GTX in there, it can probably handle anything else we throw at it with no sweat. If you're considering an upgrade, feel free to make your own thread so we can help you find the right parts and make sure everything will fit before you order.

As far as SLI: there's a couple things you have to watch out for here.

First, there's microstuttering - a phenomenon that happens on both SLI and Crossfire; read about it here (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995-15.html). In a nutshell, in an SLI/XFire configuration, each card is tasked with rendering alternating frames, and sometimes, one card can take longer to render the frame than the previous card, making each frame's screen time unequal. E.g. at 100 fps, each frame should occupy the screen for 10 ms, but due to microstuttering, frame 1 might stay there for 15 ms while frame 2 appears for only 5 ms. The average is still 100 FPS, but to us humans, it appears as much lower. This issue is more aggravated when the two (or three) GPUs are dissimilar.

Second, both of those cards are pretty big power hogs. I wouldn't recommend having both of them in there unless you have a 750+ W power supply.

If you're wanting to put both of them to work (and have the PSU to do it), I'd recommend using the 8800GT as a dedicated PhysX card rather than an SLIed mate. Alternatively, you can do the same with the 9800 GTX and a new GPU (if you end up upgrading).

Thanks a lot for the information...I really appreciate it. The same goes to you, Goku. I've made a post about some tech issues i'm having and questions about possible upgrades and would love you guys' input here: http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?p=773131#post773131

NumbaOneStunna
2012-07-09, 06:44 PM
Some new info:

John Smedley ‏@j_smedley

It is fair to say this is going to be a higher spec game than most. A core 2 duo with an 8800gt isn't going to be fun

Alot of people better start upgrading if they want to have an enjoyable experience.

Goku
2012-07-09, 06:58 PM
Thank you Numba! I am glad SOE is taking advantage of hardware...

NumbaOneStunna
2012-07-09, 07:01 PM
Thank you Numba! I am glad SOE is taking advantage of hardware...

Amen.

Bags
2012-07-10, 01:16 AM
So much for it running well on 4 - 5 year old rigs then. That's exactly the specs of the pc I got 5 years ago.

NumbaOneStunna
2012-07-10, 02:24 AM
So much for it running well on 4 - 5 year old rigs then. That's exactly the specs of the pc I got 5 years ago.

I don't believe they ever said "run well", I think they said run. It will probably run fine at 1024x768 and all graphics settings on low.

Its clear to see from the screenshots of Planetside 2 that this game would never "run well" on 5 year old hardware.

Hell, I doubt it will even run well on 2 year old hardware. I consider "running well" being 1920x1080 on medium to high settings.

Planetside 2 has AMAZING graphics, and if they need to sacrifice some playerbase because of underpowered computers then I feel it is a choice worth making.

Bags
2012-07-10, 05:48 AM
I don't believe they ever said "run well", I think they said run. It will probably run fine at 1024x768 and all graphics settings on low.


But that's perfectly playable, which contradicts Smedley's statement of it not being fun. :confused: :confused: :confused:

I don't think anyone expects a 5 year old PC to run it on anything other than low, so I'm not sure why you assumed I thought it'd be running on high.

Hell, I'm sure a PC like mine will have trouble on higher settings than med/low given the pop #s.

NumbaOneStunna
2012-07-10, 03:28 PM
But that's perfectly playable, which contradicts Smedley's statement of it not being fun. :confused: :confused: :confused:

I don't think anyone expects a 5 year old PC to run it on anything other than low, so I'm not sure why you assumed I thought it'd be running on high.

Hell, I'm sure a PC like mine will have trouble on higher settings than med/low given the pop #s.

I don't consider low resolutions "perfectly playable". Playable yes but its not going to be fun. At low resolutions the GUI/HUD takes up so much of the screen and it looks like crap on LCD monitors because its not in the monitors native resolution. Again, not fun.

On the other hand, another tweet in regards to system specs:



Jordan Hokanson ‏@vanu_conpublic

@j_smedley will my intel core 2 duo e8400 be able to run this?


John Smedley ‏@j_smedley

@vanu_conpublic it's not great yet on a core 2 duo. We're working on it. Just want to be straight with you.

Goku
2012-07-10, 04:11 PM
That means you are looking at a highly clocked two core CPU, two core CPU w/ HT, or a quad core. This is getting interesting.

BNuts
2012-07-10, 07:07 PM
Asus g73Sw

OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
System RAM: 8169 MB
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz
CPU Speeds: 2001
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 8
Video Card Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
VRAM: 1535 MB
Primary Display Resolution: 1920x1080
Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution: 1920x1080
Microphone: True
Language: English (United States)
Free Hard Drive Space: 20939 MB
Total Hard Drive Space: 119233 MB
Windows Experience Index Rating: 5.9


I hope this works, lol. I cant afford another computer for at least 6 more months.

Goku
2012-07-10, 07:55 PM
It will likely play the game. Probably around normal. I wouldn't count on anything higher and you may have to lower the resolution.

Minigun
2012-07-11, 11:40 AM
q6600 quadcore @ 2.4ghz
Nividia GTS250 -DX10
3GB ram - (may upgrade) would rather just buy a new cpu though

runs battlefield on medium around 25-40 fps runs battlefield on low* around 40-100

Ailos
2012-07-11, 11:54 AM
q6600 quadcore @ 2.4ghz
Nividia GTS250 -DX10
3GB ram - (may upgrade) would rather just buy a new cpu though

runs battlefield on medium around 25-40 fps runs battlefield on low* around 40-100

Will probably run PS2, but with mostly low settings.

Goku
2012-07-11, 11:56 AM
q6600 quadcore @ 2.4ghz
Nividia GTS250 -DX10
3GB ram - (may upgrade) would rather just buy a new cpu though

runs battlefield on medium around 25-40 fps runs battlefield on low* around 40-100

Ailos hit it run on the head. Is this a prebuilt or did you build it yourself? You could potentially get away with overclocking that Q6600 to 3 GHz and many do 3.6 GHz if you have the right stepping. That would put off a CPU upgrade allowing you to do the GPU instead. You need a proper CPU coller though.

Ailos
2012-07-11, 12:45 PM
I think the cheapest, easiest, and best upgrade for that machine is double it to 6 GB ram, honestly. That and step it up to a GTX 460/AMD 7700 series.

Minigun
2012-07-12, 11:34 AM
thanks, i'll look into doubling the ram its a prebuilt machine from 07 that i've steadily kept up over the years. time to start saving for a new machine i really need a new base to start from as everything is pretty outdated.

My tech guy from work builds them wholesale what i really want to work with is an [email protected]+,GTX560ti, and 8+gb of ram. I'll see what magic he can work

NumbaOneStunna
2012-07-12, 03:29 PM
thanks, i'll look into doubling the ram its a prebuilt machine from 07 that i've steadily kept up over the years. time to start saving for a new machine i really need a new base to start from as everything is pretty outdated.

My tech guy from work builds them wholesale what i really want to work with is an [email protected]+,GTX560ti, and 8+gb of ram. I'll see what magic he can work

For gaming, don't go with the i7 unless you just have money to waste.

Get an i5, use the saved money to buy a better video card. Honestly a 560ti isn't good, its worse than a GTX480. A 570 and a 480 are comparable.

Minigun
2012-07-12, 06:02 PM
Hmm. If you guys were going to build a machine for a grand with an nvidia chipset and win7 what would you recommend? Also I wouldn't mind looking into a guide for overclocking my current CPU if somebody wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction. It's an HP Elite m9040n with a gts250, I've already read some people clocking the processor to 3.0ghz with standard built in cooling with no problems but I'm not very knowledgeable in that area.

Thoughts?
Thanks.

Ailos
2012-07-12, 07:39 PM
Hmm. If you guys were going to build a machine for a grand with an nvidia chipset and win7 what would you recommend? Also I wouldn't mind looking into a guide for overclocking my current CPU if somebody wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction. It's an HP Elite m9040n with a gts250, I've already read some people clocking the processor to 3.0ghz with standard built in cooling with no problems but I'm not very knowledgeable in that area.

Thoughts?
Thanks.

With the right motherboard, putting a small overclock on your CPU is as easy as changing a few numbers on the BIOS screen. However, the motherboard that HP came with is not the right one for that task. (That MB has a G33 chipset, while the higher-end P35 chipset of the same era is the one that enables easy overclocking.)

That said, your HP will probably run PS2 as is. You'll probably have to stick to lower resolutions (1280x720ish) and lowered details, but it should run.

If you'd like for us to help you source and price together a PC build, make your own thread, with these questions answered (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=37183). But in general, all of our community builds for your price range feature these core components:

Core i5 3450 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506) or its +$30 overclockable brother
A Z77 chipset motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293)
An NVidia GPU that is somewhere between a560 Ti (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121445) and a GTX 670 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782), mostly depending on how flexible you budget is, and how many other whistles you want.

Exodan
2012-07-13, 04:00 AM
I'm fairly certain my PC will run PS2, my only concern is will it run on ultra high graphics?:

Intel core i7 3.06Ghz
Nvidia Geforce GTX 470 1.2GB
6GB RAM
2 x 1TB HDD

Bags
2012-07-13, 04:21 AM
Probably not on ultra; smedley recently tweeted that ultra is designed for graphics cards that don't currently exist.

zhurkov
2012-07-13, 05:28 PM
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
System RAM: 3071 MB
CPU Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz
CPU Speeds: 2158
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 2
Video Card Description: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
VRAM: 256 MB
Primary Display Resolution: 1280x800
Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution: 1280x800
Microphone: True
Language: Portuguese (Portugal)
Free Hard Drive Space: 349096 MB
Total Hard Drive Space: 476837 MB
Windows Experience Index Rating: 3.6

Do you guys think it could run PS2?

Vancha
2012-07-13, 06:01 PM
Nope.

Ailos
2012-07-14, 01:31 AM
Video Card Description: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series

Do you guys think it could run PS2?

That GPU is what breaks the camel's back.

Unfortunately, this being a laptop means there are no upgrade paths for you.

Meatballs
2012-07-15, 04:33 AM
What about this:

OS: Windows 7 Home 64bit
Ram: 4GB
Processor: Intel Core i3-2120 @ 3.3GHz
GPU: VTX radeon HD 7750 (Best available low profile card)
Monitor: 1680x1050 @ 60Hz

Benchmarks:
Team fortress 2 stuck at around 60-125 frames per second
Tribes runs at 24-30 fps at 1680x1050 in High
League of legends runs at 60fps locked and at highest detail on everything.
Blacklight stays around 30 fps when on high.
Minecraft hits 180 fps.

Not tried a lot else with my new card. Will it be ok?
Meatballs

Ailos
2012-07-16, 12:02 AM
What about this:

OS: Windows 7 Home 64bit
Ram: 4GB
Processor: Intel Core i3-2120 @ 3.3GHz
GPU: VTX radeon HD 7750 (Best available low profile card)
Monitor: 1680x1050 @ 60Hz

Benchmarks:
Team fortress 2 stuck at around 60-125 frames per second
Tribes runs at 24-30 fps at 1680x1050 in High
League of legends runs at 60fps locked and at highest detail on everything.
Blacklight stays around 30 fps when on high.
Minecraft hits 180 fps.

Not tried a lot else with my new card. Will it be ok?
Meatballs

Should run as long as you don't get greedy with eye candy.

fb III IX ca IV
2012-07-17, 01:35 PM
That depends on the game, and in some cases, even how you play it. Skyrim doesn't have a significant multiplayer component or stuff blowing up ALL the time (like we would expect of PS2), it's built much more for eye-candy and pretty scenery, so it tends to be more taxing on the GPU than just about any other game.

Skyrim was poorly optimized, and it uses an old engine that apparently can't take advantage of more than 2 threads. You should read the Toms Hardware article on Skyrim, they had it running on an i5 2500k and GTX 580 and the performance just kept on increasing the further they raised the CPU clock speed.

Ailos
2012-07-17, 07:52 PM
Skyrim was poorly optimized, and it uses an old engine that apparently can't take advantage of more than 2 threads. You should read the Toms Hardware article on Skyrim, they had it running on an i5 2500k and GTX 580 and the performance just kept on increasing the further they raised the CPU clock speed.

Not arguing about that. The intended emphasis here was:
That depends on the game, and in some cases, even how you play it. Skyrim doesn't have a significant multiplayer component or stuff blowing up ALL the time (like we would expect of PS2), it's built much more for eye-candy and pretty scenery, so it tends to be more taxing on the GPU than just about any other game.

That doesn't mean it's light on the CPU. Just means that you need more graphics muscle to run Skyrim on ultra than BF3 on ultra.

Mutant
2012-07-18, 08:55 AM
Probably not on ultra; smedley recently tweeted that ultra is designed for graphics cards that don't currently exist.

Yep the new previews have stuff from higby giving a tad more detail.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/planetside-2/1225448p1.html
I was a little surprised to hear Higby boast that PlanetSide 2 had graphical settings built in that can bring any modern PC to its knees. "We have a shadow distance setting. If you go in and crank that up to ultra or max, which aren't even available in our UI right now, it does shadow rendering for your entire view distance. Being able to have shadow rendering going out two kilometers at stencil level is something that you just can't do," he said.

Ever since Crysis took a lot of hate for building in an "ultra" graphics setting that was unplayable on the gaming hardware of the time (and thus becoming the butt of the "But can it run Crysis?" gag), we haven't heard too many developers proudly talk about how our PCs can't possibly handle their game. But Higby's approach is smart: those options are only available via text commands, only to be enabled in the menu (along with uber-high-resolution, 8096x8096 textures) when GPUs catch up to SOE's future proofing in a few years. The first thing I think I'll crank up is the draw distance -- I did notice a bit of terrain pop-in as I flew over bases that I'd like to eliminate.

also

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-17-planetside-2-preview-tomorrows-shooter-today
"The engine right now has options that we can't even turn on," he says. Crikey. "Our goal has been to build a scaleable engine, something we can continue to add features to seamlessly, without having to do an engine revamp like we've done for several of our other games." He goes on to explain how the engine is prepared for much higher resolution textures, for far greater draw distances, for more detailed environmental effects. "It's impossible to be future-proof because who knows what the future's going to bring, but the ability to have graphical features that are going to be relevant in the future, that's something we've included very intentionally."

Goku
2012-07-18, 09:31 AM
Yeah I'm getting a GK110 on release day.

Rbstr
2012-07-18, 09:53 AM
In games that have the potential it is probably smarter to have the nicer assets from day one than to have to go and rewrite the engine like others have (...EVE is the only one I really know of...did EQ at some point?)

I'm certainly sticking to my gtx570 for now, I just can't justify upgrading a single generation for one game...but I may bump up my CPU/motherboard plans from haswell to IB. We'll see.

Goku
2012-07-18, 09:56 AM
I don't see myself getting rid of my 2500K anytime soon unless Haswell is just that good. I may just wait for the enthusiast line of that.

Ailos
2012-07-18, 11:19 AM
I don't see myself getting rid of my 2500K anytime soon unless Haswell is just that good. I may just wait for the enthusiast line of that.

Personally, I'm early anticipating to see how Haswell overclocks. I want my next build at 5 GHz+, but that can be tricky with IB, and it's not that much better anyway, so I reckon I shall save up the dough for a serious cooling system later on.

Rbstr
2012-07-18, 11:39 AM
Well, I'm on an i5 750, the math is different.

Who cares what it overclocks too? If it's faster it's faster. It could run at 100hrz for all I care, as long as it's better

Greeniegriz
2012-07-18, 01:26 PM
Team now listed on Extreme Overclocking! Nice work all!

Link: ExtremeOverclocking Team: 219453 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=219453)

Cheers,

GG

GTGD
2012-07-18, 11:38 PM
Gonna give it a go with this system during the beta and then decide whether I want to upgrade it a bit:

i5-750 @ 3.6GHz
GTX 460
4GB DDR3 RAM

Though it will most likely be a CPU-intensive game so I'll have to make the big decision of if it's worth it to upgrade to a GTX 670 or just do an overhaul

Goku
2012-07-19, 12:31 AM
The i5 750 won't have any issues with the game. Worse case your 460 may not fully max it out. If you really want a upgrade 670 would do the job.

GLaDOS
2012-07-20, 06:20 PM
What about mine? I plan to run it on lowest possible settings, by the way, with everything turned all the way down or off.

AMD Turion II P520 (2 CPU's) ~2.3 GHz
4 GB RAM
AMD M880G with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250, Approximate Total Memory 1913 MB (not sure if that's necessary to say)
Display: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Rbstr
2012-07-20, 06:21 PM
I doubt it. The CPU is a low-power part

...have you played anything modern on it?

GLaDOS
2012-07-20, 06:25 PM
Um... Not really. I can play Crysis Warhead well enough on the lowest settings, but that game is getting pretty old. It's worth it to point out, though, that I'm not going for a really high framerate or anything. I was an only console gamer until about a year ago, and I hear those have low framerates compared to high quality computers.

EDIT: I'd also be fine with lower-than-console framerates, which I'm used to in PC games. I just don't want anything unbearable.

Goku
2012-07-20, 08:14 PM
I'm 100% sure that is not going to even be playable at all. I'm talking even on low setting plus low resolution. Time to start saving up for a new laptop I think.

GLaDOS
2012-07-20, 08:17 PM
Okay, thanks for the info. It is starting to fall apart anyway. It did serve me pretty well (cost $350 pretty much exactly 2 years ago, straight off the shelf from Best Buy). I'm thinking of building my next one, if that's even feasible for a laptop.

Goku
2012-07-20, 09:32 PM
If you are on a tight budget ($750 or less) I would recommend looking into building a system yourself verse a laptop. You will get way more performance verse what a laptop will yield at the same price.

Rybka
2012-07-20, 11:42 PM
Intel i7 870 Quad Core Processor 2.93 GHZ
NVIDIA GeForce 310
6 GB RAM
1920x1080 Display
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

My rig can run SC2 smoothly at medium settings (pretty sure it works on high also, haven't checked in a while), my only concern is the graphics card atm. What do you guys think?

GLaDOS
2012-07-21, 12:30 AM
If you are on a tight budget ($750 or less) I would recommend looking into building a system yourself verse a laptop. You will get way more performance verse what a laptop will yield at the same price.

That is pretty much the budget I'm on, and I've thought of it, but I really do need a laptop for the portability. Does anyone by any chance know a decent laptop around that price that I should look into?

Rbstr
2012-07-21, 01:10 AM
Intel i7 870 Quad Core Processor 2.93 GHZ
NVIDIA GeForce 310
6 GB RAM
1920x1080 Display
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

My rig can run SC2 smoothly at medium settings (pretty sure it works on high also, haven't checked in a while), my only concern is the graphics card atm. What do you guys think?

Nope.

You need a new graphics card, the 310 is horrible. But the rest is alright.

That is pretty much the budget I'm on, and I've thought of it, but I really do need a laptop for the portability. Does anyone by any chance know a decent laptop around that price that I should look into?

Why not continue to use the old laptop for the portability? Or do you not have a constant living space?

Wooley
2012-07-21, 05:09 AM
i5 2500K Quad Core 3.3GHz 6MB (Overclocked to either 3800 or 4200 (I think :rolleyes:))
8GB DDR3/1333mhz Kingston Hyper X Blu Series
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB 16X
Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Intel Z68 Chipset ATX Mainboard
CoolerMaster 850watt Silent ProModular Gaming Power Supply
Windows 7 Home 64bit
1920x1080 Display

Now its fair to say I know absolutely nothing about computers, I think I had this built for me back in January/Febuary.

Hoping it will run PS2 somewhat OK but I'm not too sure.

What do you think?

Goku
2012-07-21, 09:52 AM
That is pretty much the budget I'm on, and I've thought of it, but I really do need a laptop for the portability. Does anyone by any chance know a decent laptop around that price that I should look into?

If you want further advice please make your own thread and we'll figure out something for you.

Goku
2012-07-21, 09:53 AM
i5 2500K Quad Core 3.3GHz 6MB (Overclocked to either 3800 or 4200 (I think :rolleyes:))
8GB DDR3/1333mhz Kingston Hyper X Blu Series
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB 16X
Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Intel Z68 Chipset ATX Mainboard
CoolerMaster 850watt Silent ProModular Gaming Power Supply
Windows 7 Home 64bit
1920x1080 Display

Now its fair to say I know absolutely nothing about computers, I think I had this built for me back in January/Febuary.

Hoping it will run PS2 somewhat OK but I'm not too sure.

What do you think?

You will be fine with that. Higby has stated test rigs have run with this setup and manage to run the game on higher settings I think.

Wooley
2012-07-21, 11:17 AM
Oh good the only thing that concerns me is the x hundred vs x hundred battles and how my computer will cope with so much going on!

Ailos
2012-07-21, 01:43 PM
Oh good the only thing that concerns me is the x hundred vs x hundred battles and how my computer will cope with so much going on!

We're all in that boat, buddy. But your hardware is towards the upper end of the chain, so I feel confident in telling you you'd have a satisfactory experience.

Rybka
2012-07-21, 01:59 PM
Nope.

You need a new graphics card, the 310 is horrible. But the rest is alright.




What would you recommend I upgrade to? I don't want to blow to much money on it, as I plan to build a new desktop within the next 1-2 years or so when the next-gen consoles come out (assuming that PC's get better gear in tandem when that happens).

Goku
2012-07-21, 02:19 PM
What would you recommend I upgrade to? I don't want to blow to much money on it, as I plan to build a new desktop within the next 1-2 years or so when the next-gen consoles come out (assuming that PC's get better gear in tandem when that happens).

Please make your own thread, so we can help you with that. This thread is only for asking if your current rig can handle really. I don't want to clutter it with upgrade advice.

Ailos
2012-07-21, 11:58 PM
What would you recommend I upgrade to? I don't want to blow to much money on it, as I plan to build a new desktop within the next 1-2 years or so when the next-gen consoles come out (assuming that PC's get better gear in tandem when that happens).

PC hardware steadily advances every year and has absolutely no relation to console cycles. Also, if the rumors about the next-gen consoles are anything to go by, they'll actually be just using upper-mid range of today's PC hardware. Translation: today's top hardware on PC is better than the next-gen consoles that will come out a year from now. This also means that if you're planning on playing PS2 more than once a month, it's worthwhile for you to make the investment on a whole new machine now and save yourself 2 years of miserable framerate: today's PC will run all of your favorite console ports two years from now with no sweat.

SlaughtrPope
2012-07-22, 04:43 PM
I am thinking about buying a new laptop. My current one is almost 5 years old so it's about time for a replacement. How do you think would a laptop with specs like these perform in ps2?

CPU: Intel Core i7 3610QM, 4x 2,30 GHz
RAM: 8192 MB DDR3 SDRAM, PC3 12800 (1600 MHz)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M, 2048 MB GDDR5

thx!

Joomba
2012-07-22, 06:23 PM
Looking for opinions as to whether or not your desktop or laptop will run PS2? Well ask here. Please at least provide your specific CPU, GPU, and resolution so people can help. These are only educated guesses as we do not have any kind of system requirements from SOE yet.

Hi all, I built a budget gaming computer a few months ago designed to be quiet and relatively energy-efficient (and thus runs cool with only fans). If it makes any difference, I'm running Tribes: Ascend on highest settings.

CPU: i3-2120 3.3GHz Sandy Bridge
GPU: MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GD5 Power Edition/OC (http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R6850-Cyclone-1GD5-Power-Edition-OC.html)
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz
HDD: Samsung 830 SSD
Resolution: 1680x1050 (Samsung SyncMaster 2233rz, a 3d gaming monitor)

Goku
2012-07-22, 08:35 PM
I am thinking about buying a new laptop. My current one is almost 5 years old so it's about time for a replacement. How do you think would a laptop with specs like these perform in ps2?

CPU: Intel Core i7 3610QM, 4x 2,30 GHz
RAM: 8192 MB DDR3 SDRAM, PC3 12800 (1600 MHz)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M, 2048 MB GDDR5

thx!

If you want advice on this please make your own thread. This thread isn't intended for this type of discussion.


Hi all, I built a budget gaming computer a few months ago designed to be quiet and relatively energy-efficient (and thus runs cool with only fans). If it makes any difference, I'm running Tribes: Ascend on highest settings.

CPU: i3-2120 3.3GHz Sandy Bridge
GPU: MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GD5 Power Edition/OC (http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R6850-Cyclone-1GD5-Power-Edition-OC.html)
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz
HDD: Samsung 830 SSD
Resolution: 1680x1050 (Samsung SyncMaster 2233rz, a 3d gaming monitor)

You will be able to run the game for sure. Probably normal settings with a few bump ups.

Joomba
2012-07-22, 10:04 PM
Thanks Goku!

Bokkaveli
2012-07-22, 10:38 PM
Here's what I currently have, and I can run Tribes: Ascend on High settings.

CPU: AMD Athlon IIx4 620 processor
GPU: Nvidia 250 GTS 1024mm GDDR3
RAM: 4.00 GB

Goku
2012-07-22, 11:08 PM
Here's what I currently have, and I can run Tribes: Ascend on High settings.

CPU: AMD Athlon IIx4 620 processor
GPU: Nvidia 250 GTS 1024mm GDDR3
RAM: 4.00 GB

You are in the middle ground. CPU will likely be able to handle the game, but I'm more concerned about the GPU. Maybe a bit weak if you are looking for a enjoyable experience. I would say you are probably looking at lower settings plus something like 1440x900 and 1680x1050.

Mythoclast
2012-07-24, 06:23 PM
CPU: Intel Core i7-3610QM 2.3GHz (I think someone said it can be upped to 3.3GHz)
GPU:2GB video memory NVIDIA GTX 660M
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
HDD: Not sure on the exact one but 7200 RPM
Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Here is the link. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2819131

Murph
2012-07-24, 11:28 PM
HP EliteBook 9630p

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @2.8GHz
RAM: 4 GB DDR2
GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400

SlaughtrPope
2012-07-25, 09:19 AM
CPU: Intel Core i7-3610QM 2.3GHz (I think someone said it can be upped to 3.3GHz)
GPU:2GB video memory NVIDIA GTX 660M
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
HDD: Not sure on the exact one but 7200 RPM
Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Here is the link. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2819131

I asked ppl in this forum about the exact same specifications. I am not enough of a tech guy to help you out, but you can refer to the thread I started to see what ppl have to say:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45674

Goku
2012-07-25, 10:01 AM
CPU: Intel Core i7-3610QM 2.3GHz (I think someone said it can be upped to 3.3GHz)
GPU:2GB video memory NVIDIA GTX 660M
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz
HDD: Not sure on the exact one but 7200 RPM
Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Here is the link. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2819131

Game probably will be playable on that. Not sure on settings unfortunately, but I it may struggle at the 1920x1080.

HP EliteBook 9630p

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @2.8GHz
RAM: 4 GB DDR2
GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400

I don't see that happening. Smed said the C2D line will be hard hit by this game and the 3400 is way too low end of a GPU to even bother attempting.

I asked ppl in this forum about the exact same specifications. I am not enough of a tech guy to help you out, but you can refer to the thread I started to see what ppl have to say:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=45674

Sounded like you had a more flexible budget, so thats why I suggested getting something higher end. Not saying the GTX 660M isn't any good.

Mythoclast
2012-07-25, 11:12 PM
For a friend

CPU: AMD A6-3400m 1.4 GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6520G
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
HDD: WD My Passport 0748 external 5400 RPM
Resolution: 1366x768

Could it make it to 20FPS at everything lowest?

Goku
2012-07-26, 12:17 AM
For a friend

CPU: AMD A6-3400m 1.4 GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6520G
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
HDD: WD My Passport 0748 external 5400 RPM
Resolution: 1366x768

Could it make it to 20FPS at everything lowest?

I honestly don't know how that APU is going to handle the game. Going with a educated guess I don't see it really being playable. Probably going to just have to test the rig and see if he can put up with the lag.

Ailos
2012-07-26, 04:22 PM
For a friend

CPU: AMD A6-3400m 1.4 GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6520G
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
HDD: WD My Passport 0748 external 5400 RPM
Resolution: 1366x768

Could it make it to 20FPS at everything lowest?

I've had pretty decent experience with the APUs. Certainly better than Intel HD graphics. However, that being a mobile model, when on battery, everything is slowed down significantly (the graphics core drops to 350 MHz and the CPU is at 1.4 GHz). On desktops, that APU can push itself up to 2.3 GHz for the CPU and 1+ GHz for the graphics, so in that guise, that APU should be able to scrape the bottom of the settings scale to give you a taste of the game, but depending on the exact restrictions your laptop manufacturer imposed on the motherboard, that may not happen. You can try to run the game with the laptop plugged in, but don't hold your expectations up high.

FrankTheTank
2012-07-27, 04:30 PM
Will this run it and on what settings. What would need upgrading to get high/ultra graphics.

EVGA GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (2 of them in SLI)

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80

ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930

kingston 16GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory

Resolution is 1920x1080

These are my current specs. From what i have read on the cpu is that it can be overclocked close to 4ghz if properly cooled

Goku
2012-07-27, 08:16 PM
Frank, your computer isn't bad right now. CPU is still good though you will likely need to upgrade the cards to have any chance at ultra. If the 9800 GT you probably will find it playable on some graphic setting however. Smedley stated current gen card (single I'm assuming) cannot max this game out on ultra. I can't give a clear answer on that as result. What you could do is get a 670 for now and buy another later if it isn't running the game as you wish it too. Next gen GPUs from both Nvidia/AMD are still about 6 months out.

Ait'al
2012-07-29, 02:55 AM
OS(s):
Ubuntu 12.04 64bit 250GB solo drive
Windows xp 32bit 10GB partition
240GB(hopefully)neutral disk if I can get it setup properly.

CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1100T
Memory: 2x4GB 2000DDR3 (1600mhz)
Mobo: GB 970A-D3
Video: GeForce GTX 560 Ti 256bit 384 cores 1 or 2gigs mem.
Resolution: 1920x1080

KimJongLulz
2012-07-29, 03:33 AM
OS: Vista 64bit SP1 (I cant get SP2...at all...)

Mobo: MSI MS-7309 (K9N6PGM2-V)

CPU: Athlon II X2 250 (3.01ghz Dual Core)

Video: 9800gt 1gb

Resolution: 1680x1050

RAM: DDR2 4gb

PSU: 750w

(just because)

Ecinev
2012-07-29, 08:06 AM
Asus P8Z77-V LX (Intel Z77) - VGA/DVI
Intel i7 3770 - (4 x 3.5 GHZ) - Ivy Bridge
1TB Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda 7200.14 SATA 6Gb/s 7200rpm 64mb Cache 8ms NCQ OEM
Zotac GeForce GTX 670 (2GBDDR5) Graphics Card PCi-E
Corsair 16GB PC3-12800 1600 MHz (4x4GB) DDR3
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT

Have plenty of cooling ( including HAF case compounds and artic freezers.)

Was going to go for 32GB ram but decided against it at last moment as I can always switch out for it another time.

Thankyou for opinions.
I have already bought this and thus won't be changing anything anytime soon but just be nice to know the general thought.

Goku
2012-07-29, 10:02 AM
OS(s):
Ubuntu 12.04 64bit 250GB solo drive
Windows xp 32bit 10GB partition
240GB(hopefully)neutral disk if I can get it setup properly.

CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1100T
Memory: 2x4GB 2000DDR3 (1600mhz)
Mobo: GB 970A-D3
Video: GeForce GTX 560 Ti 256bit 384 cores 1 or 2gigs mem.
Resolution: 1920x1080

Higby stated the game ran good on the 560 Ti. Not sure of settings, but you will be all set going off from that comment.

OS: Vista 64bit SP1 (I cant get SP2...at all...)

Mobo: MSI MS-7309 (K9N6PGM2-V)

CPU: Athlon II X2 250 (3.01ghz Dual Core)

Video: 9800gt 1gb

Resolution: 1680x1050

RAM: DDR2 4gb

PSU: 750w

(just because)

CPU is weak. The Athlon II X2 is right around the level of the C2D. I would aspect these two CPUs to have a similar performance. Smedley stated this game is not going to be fun on a C2D/8800 GT, your rig is pretty close to that as the 9800GT is simply a rebranded 8800 GT. You will likely be faced with lower setting coming off from that. No idea if this will fit you bill as to being the experience you want however.

Asus P8Z77-V LX (Intel Z77) - VGA/DVI
Intel i7 3770 - (4 x 3.5 GHZ) - Ivy Bridge
1TB Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda 7200.14 SATA 6Gb/s 7200rpm 64mb Cache 8ms NCQ OEM
Zotac GeForce GTX 670 (2GBDDR5) Graphics Card PCi-E
Corsair 16GB PC3-12800 1600 MHz (4x4GB) DDR3
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT

Have plenty of cooling ( including HAF case compounds and artic freezers.)

Was going to go for 32GB ram but decided against it at last moment as I can always switch out for it another time.

Thankyou for opinions.
I have already bought this and thus won't be changing anything anytime soon but just be nice to know the general thought.

Not sure why you are asking. If your rig can't handle this we are all in trouble.

opticalshadow
2012-07-29, 12:24 PM
im pretty sure im in the clear, but i remember my system made the recommended specs for ps1 and it ddint play it well at all.

win7-64
gtx 560
i5 2500k @ 3.3GHz
8 gigs ram

Slickdc
2012-07-30, 04:02 PM
I am wondering if it will be fun to play on my computer.

System:
i7 3010QM (2.3 GHz)
Nvidia GeForce GT 650M (1 GB GDDR5 vram)
750GB 5400 RPM HDD
Windows 7 64-bit
1080p max resolution

Goku
2012-07-30, 10:13 PM
im pretty sure im in the clear, but i remember my system made the recommended specs for ps1 and it ddint play it well at all.

win7-64
gtx 560
i5 2500k @ 3.3GHz
8 gigs ram

Yeah you are all set. Your rig is from just last year.

I am wondering if it will be fun to play on my computer.

System:
i7 3010QM (2.3 GHz)
Nvidia GeForce GT 650M (1 GB GDDR5 vram)
750GB 5400 RPM HDD
Windows 7 64-bit
1080p max resolution

You probably can play fun. Not sure on settings however.

Crimsonsoldier
2012-07-31, 12:02 AM
2~ year old gaming laptop from Sager.

Intel Core i7 Q 740
AMD Radeon HD 5650
1920/1080 Res

I have 1500~ saved up for my desktop for real gaming, but I was wondering how long this will tide me over.

Thanks.

XxMrShinyxX
2012-08-01, 12:16 AM
I need to know, so if sombody answers this plz do it in a PM
Proccessor: Intel i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz
RAM: 8.00 GB
64 bit
radeon switchable graphics

Goku
2012-08-01, 12:56 AM
2~ year old gaming laptop from Sager.

Intel Core i7 Q 740
AMD Radeon HD 5650
1920/1080 Res

I have 1500~ saved up for my desktop for real gaming, but I was wondering how long this will tide me over.

Thanks.

Thats going to be close. Will likely come down to if you can tolerate the settings/fps I guess.

Tactical Pony
2012-08-01, 12:31 PM
im not sure if a 550Ti or a 560SE is better.

Right now im running a 9800GTX I know you have 560 above the 550Ti but im talking about the 560 "special" edition >_>

I would love to get a 670, a new processor, motherboard, and ram to just call it a day, but im a lil on the cheap end right now I havent gotten any contract work in about 2 years and regular work, in the security industry, is barely livable income in south florida. >_<

Goku
2012-08-01, 12:34 PM
im not sure if a 550Ti or a 560SE is better.

Right now im running a 9800GTX I know you have 560 above the 550Ti but im talking about the 560 "special" edition >_>

I would love to get a 670, a new processor, motherboard, and ram to just call it a day, but im a lil on the cheap end right now I havent gotten any contract work in about 2 years and regular work, in the security industry, is barely livable income in south florida. >_<

Quick reply: Get a GTX 460 if you can find it or the GTX 560 336/256-bit. If you need further advice please a topic on this.

Gojira Prime
2012-08-01, 02:47 PM
Just getting into PC gaming and wanted to know if my laptop would be able to play this game.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AS5560-Sb613-15-6-Inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B005J2JNDE

Goku
2012-08-01, 03:01 PM
Just getting into PC gaming and wanted to know if my laptop would be able to play this game.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AS5560-Sb613-15-6-Inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B005J2JNDE

My concern with these APUs are really the lower clocks on them. The GPU isn't the strongest either. Probably going to be a toss up and you will have to test on your own.

Joltin Joe
2012-08-01, 08:33 PM
Approximately what settings will I be able to play PS2 on? And what should I look to upgrade if I can?

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
4GB RAM
1920x1080 screen resolution

Thanks in advance!

Goku
2012-08-01, 08:49 PM
Approximately what settings will I be able to play PS2 on? And what should I look to upgrade if I can?

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
4GB RAM
1920x1080 screen resolution

Thanks in advance!

No idea on specific settings. Video card is weaker, so I wouldn't expect anything above normal. If anything lower settings, especially with Smed saying it isn't looking good for a 8800 GT. You will likely have to tweak to see if its up to your liking.

For a upgrade the over all system is ok, but the video card has to go. I wouldn't get anything higher then a GTX 560 Ti however unless you plan on upgrading everything within the next year. If you want more help on this please make your own thread.

TitanX
2012-08-02, 12:09 AM
Will my 2010 15" Macbook Pro run the game. i5 2.4ghz, 4gb RAM, 256mb gt 300m card

Salad Snake
2012-08-03, 06:47 AM
i5-2500K @ 3.30GHZ
Nvidia GTX 560
4 gigs of RAM

I run Battlefield on mostly high at 60+ FPS, but I've heard that PS2 will be processor-intensive instead of gfx card, and even the best rigs today won't be able to handle ultra. What will I most likely be able to run, and are there any others out there with a similar specs as I?

To be honest I would have thought that PS, as a F2P game, would attempt to be easily runable with lower-end rigs in an attempt to get as much playerbase as possible, especially 1st-time PC gamers and casuals. Have they said anything concrete about this?

Coreldan
2012-08-03, 06:50 AM
You will be playing perfectly fine.

The reason rigs today wont run it on ultra cos they designed it for the future, for components that don't exist yet. This way, when the technology allows for it, they will still have a fresh looking game in a few years cos people can crank up the ultra settings.

If anything, if your OS allows (64 bit), I would get 2-4gb more RAM, simply cos it's cheap and 4GB will still fairly easily run out in a modern game + Win 7 64 bit + decent amount of background applications.

Xyntech
2012-08-03, 06:53 AM
You should be fine. I'd guess anywhere from medium to high settings will run alright on that.

According to smedley on reddit yesterday, they don't even have minimum specs nailed down internally yet, so we're still waiting on that information ourselves.

AtlantisThief
2012-08-03, 06:53 AM
So i jump on the threat-train and ask the same question:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (2x3Ghz)
6GB DDR2
Radeon HD 6870

Im just asking if you think the game will run at all (low settings but +~25fps), aswell i would like to ask what you guys think about an I5 3450 as a new CPU, i currently look for it and just grabbing some recommendation here and there.

TheApoc
2012-08-03, 06:54 AM
you will be fine, 8 gigs of ram would be sweet. as far as the OP, im not use to amd & ati specs

Warruz
2012-08-03, 07:07 AM
So i jump on the threat-train and ask the same question:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (2x3Ghz)
6GB DDR2
Radeon HD 6870

Im just asking if you think the game will run at all (low settings but +~25fps), aswell i would like to ask what you guys think about an I5 3450 as a new CPU, i currently look for it and just grabbing some recommendation here and there.

I dont mean to sound rude as i dont know your level of tech savyness but you will also need a New MB if you make that move which means new ram also(as you will need DDR3 then).

On the other note you Graphics card should be plenty but that Processor is about 5 years old, i would just wait till some info comes out before making a decision but i would not be surprised if a new processor is in order.

Duddy
2012-08-03, 07:07 AM
I'd just like to point out that there is an entire thread (http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=42501) dedicated to this question on the Tech forum.

Katanauk
2012-08-03, 07:10 AM
I can't find the source but I've heard it said this won't be as intensive as Battlefield 3 currently is, but as above says, is designed with the future in mind so they can upgrade down the line when the technology caters for it, much in the way Planetside 1 was, remember the square trees and squareish guns during release? haha!

Salad Snake
2012-08-03, 07:33 AM
Thanks for the quick answer guys and gals, that helped allay my fears. I know I need some more RAM, just got to get off my seat and order it already. :D

maddoggg
2012-08-03, 08:00 AM
Hey guys i wanted to ask aswell how do you think it would run on my rig:
GTX 560ti
Q8300 quad core 2,5ghz.
4 gig ram
My power supply is exactly 500W and it's the very minimum for a GTX560 ti and i think this might be causing some performance issues i have with bf3 for example.
I am seriosly considering to changing it to 700W,but i wanted to see how ps2 would run on it first.

Mutant
2012-08-03, 08:47 AM
Hey guys i wanted to ask aswell how do you think it would run on my rig:
GTX 560ti
Q8300 quad core 2,5ghz.
4 gig ram
My power supply is exactly 500W and it's the very minimum for a GTX560 ti and i think this might be causing some performance issues i have with bf3 for example.
I am seriosly considering to changing it to 700W,but i wanted to see how ps2 would run on it first.

You should be ok for PS2 med settings 1080p, your CPU might be a little weak.


500W should be fine for your rig if it is a high quality PSU.

If it is a 'cheap' PSU that has had a long hard life it may not give you anything like 500W now.

If you have always had issues with your graphics card make sure it is on its own power rail if you have multiple power rails on your PSU. (I doubt it but worth eliminating)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1036

AtlantisThief
2012-08-03, 09:42 AM
I dont mean to sound rude as i dont know your level of tech savyness but you will also need a New MB if you make that move which means new ram also(as you will need DDR3 then).

On the other note you Graphics card should be plenty but that Processor is about 5 years old, i would just wait till some info comes out before making a decision but i would not be surprised if a new processor is in order.

I know that i would need a lot more thatn just a CPU. I have planed on taking a new MB (cant find the link anymore) and around 4gb DDR3. Not sure if i should even take 8GB, sounds too much at the moment.

Gojira Prime
2012-08-03, 02:45 PM
what about this.

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Mage_D415/w/129473,

Rbstr
2012-08-03, 04:14 PM
Not a particularly good buy. If we're talking no other options but to buy something premade:
The only AMD CPU worth buying in a gaming PC is that FX-4100 ($50 cheaper than that 6-core), but it still gets beat by an Intel i3 2120.
That graphics card is pretty low on the totem pole. Have a look here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
as far as ibuypower: Use that $50 to upgrade to the AMD 6870.

Best option? Put together a computer yourself.

KimJongLulz
2012-08-06, 12:14 AM
I honestly wish I could stop using beta drivers from 2011 for my 9800gt...but all the 2012 drivers so far have been garbage for me.


At least my new Phenom II X4 945 is on the way this week...

Razorhard
2012-08-06, 04:46 AM
Just for curiosity's sake.

Win7 Ultimate

Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.3GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT

snaffe
2012-08-06, 05:43 AM
I ordered my new PC on Satuday. 3570K + GTX 560 Ti (the 384 version).

In two minds if my gfx card is decent enough or not, but really I've spent 200 more on the computer than I was supposed to already.


CPU: NEW! Intel Core i5 3570K
Included
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Loki SD-S963
£16.99
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Included
Motherboard: NEW! Asus P8Z77-V LX
Included
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1333mhz (2x 4GB)
Included
Hard Drive: Corsair 60GB Force3 SSD S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
£10.20
Optical Drive: 22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
Included
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB
£88.30
Sound card: Onboard 7.1 Audio
Included
Case: NEW! Xigmatek Asgard Pro
£8.90
PSU: NEW! 600W Xigmatek
£21.30
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Warranty
Included

Pella
2012-08-06, 06:02 AM
Nvm noticed you had a SSD