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Pella
2012-06-10, 06:58 AM
Will planetside 2 allow customized Logos for there outfits? Instead of the premade ones.

Like EvE online Alliances, It will add another dimension to the game. And certainly bring some ownership of being in a outfit.

Only down side, it takes dev time to add them in. EvE online takes about 6 months for a logo to go through a full check list.

I hope to see this.

Zhane
2012-06-10, 09:22 AM
I would be a fan. And it would be a good revenue source - surely the larger outfits would pay cash to do it.

Miir
2012-06-10, 09:25 AM
It does seem like a good avenue to make some money. I know our outfit would chip in to buy a custom logo.

I really hope they consider this.

kaffis
2012-06-10, 09:30 AM
I keep mentioning Flying Labs Studios' system for user submission in SOE-published game Pirates of the Burning Sea. It's effective, efficient, and works great at giving the community self-policing tools during the submission process to take the load for vetting submissions off of developer shoulders.

The planetside developers should totally go over to FLS, club their guys over the head with a few E3 Best in Show plaques, and make off with the system wholesale. ;)

Hamma
2012-06-10, 09:44 AM
Higby has mentioned they do want to do this although I think it would probably be an after release thing.

Qel
2012-06-10, 09:46 AM
I keep mentioning Flying Labs Studios' system for user submission in SOE-published game Pirates of the Burning Sea. It's effective, efficient, and works great at giving the community self-policing tools during the submission process to take the load for vetting submissions off of developer shoulders.

The planetside developers should totally go over to FLS, club their guys over the head with a few E3 Best in Show plaques, and make off with the system wholesale. ;)

I was going to mention this as well when I saw the thread title, it worked really well and for making outfits feel unique it would definately add a lot.

Fara
2012-06-10, 09:47 AM
Higby also said he had reservations because of the obvious abuse of trust & power at adding custom decals and the need for monitoring.

aka Penis Filter

Hamma
2012-06-10, 09:49 AM
Indeed :lol:

Too many dick outfit logos = bad

Gandhi
2012-06-10, 09:51 AM
I can only imagine the technical challenges of loading 500 outfit logos into GPU memory alongside all the other textures the game and various customizations use. :eek:

Qel
2012-06-10, 10:06 AM
Higby also said he had reservations because of the obvious abuse of trust & power at adding custom decals and the need for monitoring.

aka Penis Filter

This is why something like what Flying Labs did with Pirates of the Burning Sea would be needed.
You would create your logo and submit it to the system, players would then vote yes/no to it. Once it receives enough yes votes an SOE staff member would give it a final check to make sure it is suitable content and either ok it for addition to the game or delete it as needed.

Or like someone else mentioned for money making purposes they could make it a function the outfit would need to club together to buy for a reasonable fee and then a logo can be submitted to SOE for approval. I would hope in that situation that people having paid for the privilege of having a custom outfit logo they would only be looking to submit things that would be suitable for approval. Of course you'd get idiots either way, you always do, but for the sake of a CSR checking things as they're submitted it would add so much to being in an outfit.

ElectroEsper
2012-06-10, 10:41 AM
I totally agree, we need to have custom logo for our outfits, I would enjoy drawing my archangel for ours. Add to this a reasonable price or something and bam, great system to give a welcome customization and a sideline profit.

But it still need an efficient way of filtering those... akward content...

BuzzCutPsycho
2012-06-10, 10:42 AM
Cocks and Swastikas on day one. Perhaps even a combination of the two. A "Cwokstika" if you will.

ArcIyte
2012-06-10, 10:44 AM
Cocks and Swastikas on day one. Perhaps even a combination of the two. A "Cwokstika" if you will.

I would wear it with pride, mein fuhrer

ElectroEsper
2012-06-10, 10:44 AM
Yeah that hindou logo (its for luck just to say ) is way overrated as "bad" :lol:

willaguy
2012-06-10, 11:37 AM
Yeah that hindou logo (its for luck just to say ) is way overrated as "bad" :lol:

The hindou "swastika" logo is white with black outlines, not purely black. So yes there is a difference.

Daffan
2012-06-10, 11:49 AM
EVE Online has Custom Alliance logo's that need to be approved by the game admins or game masters before they are accepted. They all look very nice on the info tabs and etc ( Not on actual ships, but eventually i suppose )

Good for income and buying if Sony wants to do it like that too. (The wait in EVE for a logo can take forever)

Malstrum
2012-06-10, 12:09 PM
Customised outfit logo's would be a great implementation to the game, it would create a decent amount of revenue on Sony's part and also help characterize different outfit's from each other, which would be fantastic.

I hope more outfit like features are implemented as well, but we'll see :)

ElectroEsper
2012-06-10, 12:18 PM
I wonder, how will the outfit creation being handle, will it cost some points or something. Dont know how this work in PS1.

Top Sgt
2012-06-10, 12:23 PM
Indeed :lol:

Too many dick outfit logos = bad

true you'll get a ton of pornografic type stuff

Also alot of the hate crap Swastika's and other loser stuff.

Would need somebody monitoring it for sure because we don't need that crap in the game.

ElectroEsper
2012-06-10, 12:30 PM
Or maybee, just a report system for logos ? Like that, we dont overload the dev with logo verification, but only those who really needs attention ?

LegioX
2012-06-10, 12:44 PM
Can i have a vanu of southpark logo?

julfo
2012-06-10, 12:48 PM
definitely a feature I would like to see, although as already mentioned there could potentially be issues. Maybe whenever you create a custom insignia it has to be submitted for review first? Or maybe some sort of community vote... I think the planetside community is probably mature enough to reject silly insignias... although this is the internet, so who knows?

Also, let's face it: who is actually gonna pay to have a dick as their outfit logo? Seriously?

ElectroEsper
2012-06-10, 01:46 PM
Also, let's face it: who is actually gonna pay to have a dick as their outfit logo? Seriously?

You'll always find somebody :lol:

willaguy
2012-06-10, 01:50 PM
For the people that think it's a good idea to give total freedom to the players to create their outfit logos, I shall direct you to the COD Black Ops emblems.

MrMorton
2012-06-10, 01:59 PM
I keep mentioning Flying Labs Studios' system for user submission in SOE-published game Pirates of the Burning Sea. It's effective, efficient, and works great at giving the community self-policing tools during the submission process to take the load for vetting submissions off of developer shoulders.

The planetside developers should totally go over to FLS, club their guys over the head with a few E3 Best in Show plaques, and make off with the system wholesale. ;)

I would agree, potbs's flag/sail system is great, but the community has to be willing to man the system.

bpostal
2012-06-10, 02:11 PM
connotations, denotations, semantics...It's a good idea just need implentation to keep the dicks and hate out.

TurelSun
2012-06-10, 02:15 PM
EVE Online has Custom Alliance logo's that need to be approved by the game admins or game masters before they are accepted. They all look very nice on the info tabs and etc ( Not on actual ships, but eventually i suppose )

Good for income and buying if Sony wants to do it like that too. (The wait in EVE for a logo can take forever)

My suggestion would be to have something more like the logos for EVE's corporations. You have a bunch of pre-made options and ways to combine them, and they take effect instantly. Maybe have both methods, so someone can get a logo right away and then apply for a custom logo.

Top Sgt
2012-06-11, 12:07 AM
hamma is correct

I just watched a video interview where highby said you can put on outfit logo's with station cash etc.

it may or may not make it in for release.. but it def will be in the game at some point. Click the video it's set right where he states this.

http://youtu.be/5ZFb62WIS6k?t=6m12s

Xyntech
2012-06-11, 12:21 AM
It's an awesome enough feature that I think players and outfits would put up some substantial cash to get their custom logo.

If it requires valuable man hours to screen, charge us for them, and then double it or more so you make a profit. Put a disclaimer that A) it will take up to x amount of time to be approved (2 weeks tops maybe?) and B) that inappropriate content will be discarded and the purchase price will NOT be refunded. Just make those points very clear, and make them sign something that says they can not dispute what SOE defines as inappropriate, and it should be good.

Provide some free or cheaper premade logos for outfits who don't want to spend the money, like the outfit logo system from the first game.

Pella
2012-06-11, 03:48 AM
Yip, there's a whole new market place for SOE right there.

Troscus
2012-06-11, 04:40 AM
I'm REALLY hoping that it goes in. That's be a great way to add a united feel among outfits.

Daffan
2012-06-11, 04:54 AM
If there is money to be involved there sure as hell wont be a 6 month waiting period. :)

It's a surefire idea too.

SKYeXile
2012-06-11, 05:03 AM
Higby also said he had reservations because of the obvious abuse of trust & power at adding custom decals and the need for monitoring.

aka Penis Filter

he also claimed he was against"bloody screen, so real" and instant medic revives, both are in.

Shade Millith
2012-06-11, 10:26 AM
he also claimed he was against"bloody screen, so real" and instant medic revives, both are in.

Don't think instant medic revives are in from what I've seen and heard?

Either way, I'm for custom logos. Take these ones from EVE Online.

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/be/bef78f076a16af5bf495ba998061e5fe8cd2248d_full.jpg
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/c/cb/Goonswarmlarge.png
http://couldhavetakenitsolo.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/selogo.jpg
https://image.eveonline.com/Alliance/288377808_128.png
http://image.igxe.com/EVE10.jpg


With a selection process (Hopefully faster than CCP's), you can get some really nice logos ingame.

Top Sgt
2012-06-11, 10:32 AM
he also claimed he was against"bloody screen, so real" and instant medic revives, both are in.

there is no instant medic revives.... the current process takes over 5 secs as it stands now

kaffis
2012-06-11, 11:12 AM
I would agree, potbs's flag/sail system is great, but the community has to be willing to man the system.
PotBS solved this by requiring votes to submit. Or was it after one submission, you needed to put votes in to earn another? Either way.. it can be done. Then, of course, you get the people who are actively involved in the submission community that do way more than the voting required to keep their own submissions going in. I used to like doing a few rounds of votes to kill time at lunch from work -- I got to see a bunch of cool art people'd done!

FastAndFree
2012-06-11, 11:32 AM
Wouldn't making it so outfits need a certain amount of outfit points before they could submit a logo (still for a fee) be enough to reduce the manpower required to oversee the logos?

Optionally, if your logo gets rejected you have to wait before you can submit another one

AnamNantom
2012-06-11, 11:56 AM
Higby has mentioned they do want to do this although I think it would probably be an after release thing.


Yes! I created a logo that was recently put in-game in Eve and it gives me a sense of accomplishment as an inter-galactic artist. Good to see they like the idea in PS2!

AnamNantom
2012-06-11, 11:59 AM
Don't think instant medic revives are in from what I've seen and heard?

Either way, I'm for custom logos. Take these ones from EVE Online.

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/be/bef78f076a16af5bf495ba998061e5fe8cd2248d_full.jpg
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/c/cb/Goonswarmlarge.png
http://couldhavetakenitsolo.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/selogo.jpg
https://image.eveonline.com/Alliance/288377808_128.png
http://image.igxe.com/EVE10.jpg


With a selection process (Hopefully faster than CCP's), you can get some really nice logos ingame.

Here's one I did.. lettering was beat up, but the alliance liked it that way :)

https://image.eveonline.com/Alliance/99000949_128.png

Oh and CVA can kiss it :P (Long live the Minmatar)