PS2 confirmed to only have servers in one area of USA [Archive] - Page 2

Kran De Loy

2012-06-13, 09:06 AM

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Ping won't be an issue if they make a server on both the west coast NA and the east coast NA. However ping will always be an issue if they have only one server cluster, no matter where they put it.

PlaceboCyanide

2012-06-13, 09:16 AM

Figment

2012-06-13, 09:19 AM

Germany.

Most likely yes. Though they were still pondering about that I think. Could be Amsterdam again.

Monkey

2012-06-13, 09:30 AM

Germany.

Thats cool, thanks :)

Kalbuth

2012-06-13, 09:31 AM

Most likely yes. Though they were still pondering about that I think. Could be Amsterdam again.

Amsterdam ftw. Better connectivity toward all europe

Kran De Loy

2012-06-13, 09:51 AM

Yeah the NA server thing was all blown up from one comment about that Servers 'were almost certainly going to be all in one place' and many people just assumed that since SOE already has a lot of servers based out of San Diego that all the servers would be there.

Also

iirc months back while the Region Lock thread was still getting action there was a comment from some blue named about the servers were not going to be germany, but they also may not necessarily be in Amsterdam (were many of SOE servers are/used to be). But I remember some blue saying they wont be in Germany.

I'm dead tired atm, or I'd actually try to find the post or article or twit or whatever it was.

wraithverge

2012-06-13, 12:00 PM

California just makes sense for servers for half the world. America from one end to the other is not bad lag usually, and China routes almost all of their traffic through LA, assuming the same from Korea, but haven't seen a tracert from there. I just feel sorry for the EU and African crowd.

Hamma

2012-06-13, 12:04 PM

I give up on you guys. I get paid to tell people who pay the company I work for millions of dollars how to configure their WAN infrastructure for their branch offices across the US and the world, and I'm ignored on a thread where everyone is freaking out about fictitious ping times.

Now you know how I feel in the beta thread :lol:

Traceroute to SOE Forums:

3 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms las1-ar2-xe-1-0-0-0.us.twtelecom.net [66.192.250.254]
4 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms te4-2.las-core2-1.switchnap.com [66.209.64.125]
5 34 ms 34 ms 101 ms te2-6.las-agg7s1-1.switchnap.com [66.209.64.34]
6 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms demarc1.soe.switchnap.com [216.115.64.74]
7 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms forums-lvs.station.sony.com [64.37.171.27]

Vegas - likely where the PS servers are. Anyone the IP address to the PlanetSide 1 login Servers or even better the Server IP itself?

EDIT: I also find it amusing that people often seem to think MMO Servers is just one server sitting in a rack somewhere when in fact it's likely a network of 10's to 100's of servers and databases.

Mirror

2012-06-13, 12:07 PM

Bags

2012-06-13, 12:08 PM

Now you know how I feel in the beta thread :lol:

Traceroute to SOE Forums:

Vegas - likely where the PS servers are. Anyone the IP address to the PlanetSide 1 login Servers or even better the Server IP itself?

EDIT: I also find it amusing that people often seem to think MMO Servers is just one server sitting in a rack somewhere when in fact it's likely a network of 10's to 100's of servers and databases.

I don't believe I ever said that.

wraithverge

2012-06-13, 12:10 PM

the server you pointed to is in san diego hamma.

http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=64.37.171.27&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7

Hamma

2012-06-13, 12:19 PM

I don't believe I ever said that.

I didn't say "Bags" did I? :D

I was not referring to you. ;)

RadarX

2012-06-13, 12:19 PM

Hamma

2012-06-13, 12:21 PM

the server you pointed to is in san diego hamma.

http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=64.37.171.27&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7

That does not indicate the IP is actually in SD. It's just ARIN information:

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-64-37-128-0-1/pft

However it does appear the PlanetSide Server itself is in fact in San Diego.

So much speculation! PS1 is very low requirement and is not necessarily indicative of where we keep most of our hardware. All I will say is most of our existing live games for our N. American community are located in the Las Vegas area.

He speaks! ;) That would be indicative of what I found with checking out SOE's various web services.

The Janitor

2012-06-13, 12:22 PM

So much speculation! PS1 is very low requirement and is not necessarily indicative of where we keep most of our hardware. All I will say is most of our existing live games for our N. American community are located in the Las Vegas area.

Heh, somehow Vegas seems most appropriate for this kind of crazy awesome.

Kayos

2012-06-13, 12:34 PM

Vegas would be a good spot. Not to far away at all :)

xSquirtle

2012-06-13, 12:42 PM

except I live nearly on the complete opposite side of the cont -.-

Electrofreak

2012-06-13, 12:47 PM

The ignorance in this thread still has me fuming. So many people who have no idea what they're talking about...

:furious:

EDIT - I guess I shouldn't expect people to understand WAN networking, but I do expect if you don't know what you're talking about to stop misinforming others.
:rant:

Hamma has the right to talk because he works in the hosting industry. He has a pretty sweet job, or did last I checked.

proxy

2012-06-13, 12:48 PM

Hmm my wife is in Vegas right now... maybe some covert action is needed...

Hamma

2012-06-13, 12:56 PM

Hamma has the right to talk because he works in the hosting industry. He has a pretty sweet job, or did last I checked.

Still do! :D

Electrofreak

2012-06-13, 01:13 PM

Still do! :D

Wasn't sure since I heard you were moving into a new house... but I heard you're ballin' now so that makes sense. :D

Bags

2012-06-13, 04:35 PM

I didn't say "Bags" did I? :D

I was not referring to you. ;)

Sorry, was up too late I guess (couldn't sleep so I kept coming back), thought you quoted me or something. :doh:

Bags

2012-06-13, 04:37 PM

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 04:40 PM

I guess 160 ping is better than 170 ping... (170 being Sandiego). :doh:

Nobody is making you play in the US. (Just like nobody is making me play in the EU. Yet I will. And I won't cry about ping.)

Bags

2012-06-13, 04:44 PM

Nobody is making you play in the US. (Just like nobody is making me play in the EU. Yet I will. And I won't cry about ping.)

As an Ohioan I don't see where else I would play. :doh:

Phellix

2012-06-13, 04:59 PM

I guess 160 ping is better than 170 ping... (170 being Sandiego). :doh:

How do you get 170 from Ohio?

Bags

2012-06-13, 05:00 PM

How do you get 170 from Ohio?

Because Ohio is very far from Nevada.

Phellix

2012-06-13, 05:03 PM

Because Ohio is very far from Nevada.
Most people get ~80-90 coast to coast, i just got 70 to Columbus from LA, Whos your provider?

Eyeklops

2012-06-13, 05:06 PM

So much speculation! PS1 is very low requirement and is not necessarily indicative of where we keep most of our hardware. All I will say is most of our existing live games for our N. American community are located in the Las Vegas area.

Other than Planetside 1, which originally had region located hardware, what other FPS games does SOE host solely from a single geographic location? I am talking strictly about North American servers here.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 05:12 PM

Because Ohio is very far from Nevada.

No. Moscow (the one in Russia, not Idaho) is very far from Nevada.

As I pointed out, I get under 100 ping to pretty much everywhere (conus) from San Diego.

I think perhaps your biggest issue is that you need better internet. So instead of asking SOE to put servers closer to you, do some research on ISPs and find one that doesn't route your traffic through China.

Notser

2012-06-13, 05:46 PM

No. Moscow (the one in Russia, not Idaho) is very far from Nevada.

As I pointed out, I get under 100 ping to pretty much everywhere (conus) from San Diego.

I think perhaps your biggest issue is that you need better internet. So instead of asking SOE to put servers closer to you, do some research on ISPs and find one that doesn't route your traffic through China.

You act like all areas have options for ISP, in many areas they have been bought out and there is only one ISP available.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 05:56 PM

You act like all areas have options for ISP, in many areas they have been bought out and there is only one ISP available.

No, I act like people allow their companies to foist off crap service on them all too often.

I had a friend who complained madly about his terrible internet. He had a DSL connection that was rated at 12MBPS. His speeds never got above 6 or 7, and he had intermittent disconnection issues. He raged for months with me telling him to call the company and not get off the phone until he had an answer, or a tech visit schedule.

He didn't do anything for a long time. Until one day he'd finally had enough and he took my advice. He ended up on a long service call and they ended up swapping out parts at the exchange.

After that day he got pretty much his full speed, and the disconnects were gone.

If someone is getting 170 ping to the coasts from the middle of the country there is something really wrong with their ISP's service in general or to them in specific. My suggestion stands: do some research into ISP options (most people have at least 2 decent options unless they're extremely rural, contrary to your statement) or get in touch with your provider and get them to fix your service.

(But, in general, the point is: just because your internet is crap doesn't mean companies should start placing their datacenters closer to YOU in specific.)

Crator

2012-06-13, 06:02 PM

Better close the thread... It's starting to get too long with too many of the same posts, and we can't have that now!

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 06:35 PM

I guess 160 ping is better than 170 ping... (170 being Sandiego). :doh:

wtf son, i get 170 and im across the pacific.

Kayos

2012-06-13, 06:57 PM

I'm getting 38ms to San Diego from Vancouver, Canada and Vegas is a bit closer so I should be good :)

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 06:59 PM

I'm getting 38ms to San Diego from Vancouver, Canada and Vegas is a bit closer so I should be good :)

eh it really more depends on where the backbone is laid, given its America..probably everywhere...and your ping would be better :P

jepaul

2012-06-13, 07:13 PM

Please be west coast. Will pay double for anything sold.

Thanks in advance

diLLa

2012-06-13, 07:18 PM

edit: nevermind this post, alcohol doesn't improve reading skills.

Electrofreak

2012-06-13, 07:34 PM

No, I act like people allow their companies to foist off crap service on them all too often.

I had a friend who complained madly about his terrible internet. He had a DSL connection that was rated at 12MBPS. His speeds never got above 6 or 7, and he had intermittent disconnection issues. He raged for months with me telling him to call the company and not get off the phone until he had an answer, or a tech visit schedule.

He didn't do anything for a long time. Until one day he'd finally had enough and he took my advice. He ended up on a long service call and they ended up swapping out parts at the exchange.

After that day he got pretty much his full speed, and the disconnects were gone.

If someone is getting 170 ping to the coasts from the middle of the country there is something really wrong with their ISP's service in general or to them in specific. My suggestion stands: do some research into ISP options (most people have at least 2 decent options unless they're extremely rural, contrary to your statement) or get in touch with your provider and get them to fix your service.

(But, in general, the point is: just because your internet is crap doesn't mean companies should start placing their datacenters closer to YOU in specific.)

This, coming from a data tech at an ISP.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 07:41 PM

There's your problem. You need to move from Ohio. Your carrier is shitty.

I know a lot about shitty carriers → Time Warner.. but thanks to (who the fuck knows what) they upgraded their pipes.

My ping from NYC to very very far London is 80. Your high ping is an Ohio problem.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2d1mn3q.png

You know you can click a share this result button and have it displayed like this:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007440970.png
right?

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 07:53 PM

You know I don't give a fuck, right?

You should get more mad at people trying to help you.

I would have said nerdrage, but the term nerd implies some sort of intelligence.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:01 PM

You should get more mad at people trying to help you.

I would have said nerdrage, but the term nerd implies some sort of intelligence.

You know that supposedly trying to help is more believable when you don't come across sounding like a wanker, right? YOU DO KNOW THAT, RIGHT? DON'T YOU?

Khrusky

2012-06-13, 08:07 PM

popcorn:

Bags

2012-06-13, 08:09 PM

There's your problem. You need to move from Ohio. Your carrier is shitty.

I know a lot about shitty carriers → Time Warner.. but thanks to (who the fuck knows what) they upgraded their pipes.

My ping from NYC to very very far London is 80. Your high ping is an Ohio problem.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2d1mn3q.png

My friend in Maryland has comcast and gets similarly high pings. I have TW.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 08:12 PM

You know that supposedly trying to help is more believable when you don't come across sounding like a wanker, right? YOU DO KNOW THAT, RIGHT? DON'T YOU?
Force of habit.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:13 PM

Force of habit.

I know. It can be very hard not to sound like a wanker.

Otleaz

2012-06-13, 08:21 PM

It looks like I should give up on playing this with my friends then, since not a single one will look at this game now.

This is a huge disappointment.

I know. It can be very hard not to sound like a wanker.

I think it is just hard to care when almost every NC acts like a total dumbass. It makes it easy to generalize.

Phellix

2012-06-13, 08:21 PM

My friend in Maryland has comcast and gets similarly high pings. I have TW.

Then there's something wrong somewhere, I also have TW, i'd recommend calling them and complaining

Phellix

2012-06-13, 08:22 PM

It looks like I should give up on playing this with my friends then, since not a single one will look at this game now.

This is a huge disappointment.

Guess so.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:23 PM

It looks like I should give up on playing this with my friends then, since not a single one will look at this game now.

This is a huge disappointment.

I think it is just hard to care when almost every NC acts like a total dumbass. It makes it easy to generalize.

We won't miss you, Barney.

commiedic

2012-06-13, 08:24 PM

Gotta Love living in the Center of the US =P

UMAD?

http://speedtest.net/result/2007482970.png
http://speedtest.net/result/2007482019.png
http://speedtest.net/result/2004753762.png

Otleaz

2012-06-13, 08:25 PM

We won't miss you, Barney.

Oh, I'll be playing. Just not with my friends.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:26 PM

Gotta Love living in the Center of the US =P

UMAD?

http://speedtest.net/result/2007482019.png

Your ping is above 50, you are doomed.

YOU WILL DIE BECAUSE THE SERVER IS NOT IN DALLAS.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:26 PM

Oh, I'll be playing. Just not with my friends.

Imaginary ones don't have hands for the mouse and keyboard.

Phellix

2012-06-13, 08:28 PM

Oh, I'll be playing. Just not with my friends.

Lol, glad you speak for your friends

Otleaz

2012-06-13, 08:29 PM

Imaginary ones don't have hands for the mouse and keyboard.

You are so cool. If you want you can have my pudding cup at lunch.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:30 PM

You are so cool. If you want you can have my pudding cup at lunch.

I wish. Is it low fat? Doc put me on a diet. :(

Electrofreak

2012-06-13, 08:30 PM

People in this thread gotta chill out. The quality of your internet connection is basically a lottery if you're a residential customer. If you're paying for some uber connection, well, then, you get what you pay for.

The customers for the ISP I work for pay us often hundreds of thousands of dollars a month to get a lot of bandwidth and low latency. Even so, there's a ton of factors that play into whether or not that happens. Ultimately, we're always considered responsible, even if another ISP decides to push the traffic we hand them over a copper bundle wrapped in paper sitting in a wet NYC subway tunnel. True story, by the way.

Shade Millith

2012-06-13, 08:37 PM

So much speculation! PS1 is very low requirement and is not necessarily indicative of where we keep most of our hardware. All I will say is most of our existing live games for our N. American community are located in the Las Vegas area.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007487521.png

Is this even going to be playable anymore for Australian's?

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 08:38 PM

I know. It can be very hard not to sound like a wanker.

Looks like you're speaking from experience.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:44 PM

Looks like you're speaking from experience.

What else would I be speaking from?

But I'm well aware of when I'm being a jerk, and I don't try to pretend that my words weren't crappy when I'm called on it.

Better to proudly be offensive than try and make it sound like you were only trying to help.

Not that I expect Vanu to have much in the way of honor. :)

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:45 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007487521.png

Is this even going to be playable anymore for Australian's?

I assume your bandwidth is piped through your didgeridoo? :)

Phellix

2012-06-13, 08:46 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007487521.png

Is this even going to be playable anymore for Australian's?

Wow are you watching a stream or downloading something because that's insanely high, I don't get why Aussies would complain about West coast servers anyway, it doesn't get any better for you

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 08:47 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007487521.png

Is this even going to be playable anymore for Australian's?

That server is fucked, I ping 330 from a data centre . 170 to Gemini.

You should expect 250 tops if their netcode ain't shit from east coast Au

Lol at the vultures coming out though because your pinging a shit server/getting routed bad.

Hmr85

2012-06-13, 08:52 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007510290.png

From Atlanta, GA... I figured it would be a tad faster than that.

AvacadoEight

2012-06-13, 08:57 PM

I got this.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007514857.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I don't think that's too bad, is it? I know its not the best. But hey, its all we have. Should be fine to play a game.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 08:57 PM

For the record that server in LV isn't very good.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 09:13 PM

What else would I be speaking from?

But I'm well aware of when I'm being a jerk, and I don't try to pretend that my words weren't crappy when I'm called on it.

Better to proudly be offensive than try and make it sound like you were only trying to help.

Not that I expect Vanu to have much in the way of honor. :)

Sounds like you're a poser to me, attempting to act tough on the internet.

SgtMAD

2012-06-13, 09:16 PM

So much speculation! PS1 is very low requirement and is not necessarily indicative of where we keep most of our hardware. All I will say is most of our existing live games for our N. American community are located in the Las Vegas area.

HA HA mother f%&^#,I told ya so.

4 miles from my friggin house,Ill go drill a hole in the wall and run some cable LOL

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 09:17 PM

Sounds like you're a poser to me, attempting to act tough on the internet.

I'm a poser because I pointed out that you were a jerk and tried to pretend you weren't?

Your logic is spectacular.

xSCORPIONx

2012-06-13, 09:19 PM

I'm with some others and dont like this that much. Here is some pings with that speedtest site. This is with 25Mbps Down and 4Mbps up.

Pennsylvania(My area) 9ms
New York 51ms
Chicago 47ms
Florida 49ms
Texas 55ms
Las Vegas 219ms
San Diego 205ms
----------------
London 101ms
Italy 125ms
Japan 201ms
australia 255ms

Oh also when playing any game online i always list by ping and join servers below 50ms. Never would i join a server over 200ms. Hopefully they have other server locations.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 09:22 PM

I ping under 100 to Pittsburgh from San Diego.

maradine

2012-06-13, 09:25 PM

Yeah, I'm not getting how you're pinging worse to LV than SD.

The Internet! Behold its mysteries! Curse BGP!

Toppopia

2012-06-13, 09:25 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007539163.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007541011.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Huh. Not much different to east or west coast for me. I shall throw in a Europe test just to see what it looks like.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007544205.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

So... no choosing Europe for me. So West Coast is my best option. Obviously. But seems not much difference if its east coast. So i'm sweet.

Bags

2012-06-13, 09:26 PM

Yeah, I'm not getting how you're pinging worse to LV than SD.

The Internet! Behold its mysteries! Curse BGP!

My friend in MD with 15 megabit comcast pinged 30 higher to LV than SD.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 09:26 PM

I'm a poser because I pointed out that you were a jerk and tried to pretend you weren't?

Your logic is spectacular.

no your a poser because you aware of your actions but you continue to be a jerk like i said... probably because you're attempting to look tough on the internet.

Looks like you want to be like me, thing is, as you pointed out, i do it naturally, i don't have to put on an act to impress the internet.

Crator

2012-06-13, 09:27 PM

no your a poser because you aware of your actions but you continue to be a jerk like i said... probably because you're attempting to look tough on the internet.

Looks like you want to be like me, thing is, as you pointed out, i do it naturally, i don't have to put on an act to impress the internet.

Maybe you are just both the same. :) Love the new sig btw SKYeXile!

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 09:30 PM

no your a poser because you aware of your actions but you continue to be a jerk like i said... probably because you're attempting to look tough on the internet.

Looks like you want to be like me, thing is, as you pointed out, i do it naturally, i don't have to put on an act to impress the internet.

You are obviously aware that you are a jerk.

By your own logic this makes you a poser.

I'm confused, but people who wear purple never did make much sense to me.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 09:31 PM

Maybe you are just both the same. :) Love the new sig btw SKYeXile!

Thanks, Xyntech made the butterfly look good though, im just toying around with the base, it still needs a little bit more work though. i think im gonna reskin out site with the blue instead of its current purple, more of a tron sorta feel...the purple looks a little tacky and it wasn't the best finish anyway :/ (site link via clicking sig) i need some better vanu PS2 pics FFS...tray has been ignoring my tweets.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 09:32 PM

You are obviously aware that you are a jerk.

By your own logic this makes you a poser.

I'm confused, but people who wear purple never did make much sense to me.

Oh i'm aware, but i try not to be, still get hated though. though you could be right, im trying to decide which is worse though, jerk posing a nice guy or nice guy posing as a jerk.

Crator

2012-06-13, 09:33 PM

Thanks, Xyntech made the butterfly look good though, im just toying around with the base, it still needs a little bit more work though. i think im gonna reskin out site with the blue instead of its current purple, more of a tron sorta feel...the purple looks a little tacky and it wasn't the best finish anyway :/ (site link via clicking sig)

Tron look sounds nice... That neon pink on the site is hurting my eyes... :D

Shade Millith

2012-06-13, 09:34 PM

That server is fucked, I ping 330 from a data centre . 170 to Gemini.

You should expect 250 tops if their netcode ain't shit from east coast Au

Lol at the vultures coming out though because your pinging a shit server/getting routed bad.

330 isn't too bad. Net code had better be up to snuff though. I'm intending to spend $100 to support the game, but like I said before, if I'm not happy, I'm not spending shit.

SKYeXile

2012-06-13, 09:38 PM

Tron look sounds nice... That neon pink on the site is hurting my eyes... :D

you should have seen it before i toned it down!

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v629/SKYeXile/?action=view&current=fcforum.jpg

but 330 is shit shade, i pinged 280 to emerald(on residential connection), worse than that IMO, is shit.

duomaxwl

2012-06-13, 09:43 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007559256.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007560691.png

That LV server sucks about as much as my ISP. :(
I'm sure SOE will make server magic. Hopefully.

Toppopia

2012-06-13, 09:47 PM

What i don't understand, how do i have faster upload times then download times? Isn't it always download is faster and upload slow?

Edit: Nevermind, just looked it up, its because downloading is more important than uploading so more priority is put to the downloading packets than the uploading packets.

Landtank

2012-06-13, 09:48 PM

Oh i'm aware, but i try not to be, still get hated though. though you could be right, im trying to decide which is worse though, jerk posing a nice guy or nice guy posing as a jerk.

I read everything you say with an Australian accent.

Ahem: My ping to SD was ~160 from New York, and 210 to Las Vegas from New York, soooooooo screw Las Vegas.

Eyeklops

2012-06-13, 09:49 PM

Yea, no situation ever favours the people with high pings, that just a typical terabad excuse for being bad.

That is simply not true in my eyes. High ping favors the player in motion.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 09:49 PM

What i don't understand, how do i have faster upload times then download times? Isn't it always download is faster and upload slow?

It's one of the mysteries of the universe. :)

maradine

2012-06-13, 09:49 PM

Doesn't have to be, but yes, generally. Sometimes you can suck harder than they can blow. As it were.

duomaxwl

2012-06-13, 09:49 PM

What i don't understand, how do i have faster upload times then download times? Isn't it always download is faster and upload slow?

Er. I'm not sure. Maybe you left the pr0nz downloading?
I'm quite jelly of your upload though.

THrONeBeaST

2012-06-13, 09:50 PM

get back on topic :)

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 09:50 PM

I read everything you say with an Australian accent.

Ahem: My ping to SD was ~160 from New York, and 210 to Las Vegas from New York, soooooooo screw Las Vegas.

My ping to New York is 91 from San Diego.

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-13, 09:51 PM

Doesn't have to be, but yes, generally. Sometimes you can suck harder than they can blow. As it were.

Ok I like your explanation better.

Artimus

2012-06-13, 10:08 PM

If its only one server it should be placed in the midwest, Chicago. To me thats the most logical fairest way its a huge hub basically in the center of the USA.

WNxThentar

2012-06-13, 10:27 PM

1.) raise legitimate concern and ask for clarification
2.) fanboys arrive and call us immature kids and tell us to stop crying because we dared to question SOE
3.) :rolleyes:

What happened to this site?

No this is what happens

raise legitimate concern and ask for clarification
Answer given that explains why concern is invalid
same concern is raised agian
Expanded answer is given explaining why concern isn't an issue
same concern is raised again
vets start bitching because people are either to stupid to read the previous post or to stupid to comprehend the previous posts.

WNxThentar

2012-06-13, 10:28 PM

The real reason I want to play on US servers is to avoid Russians tbh.

Don't play during prime time in Russia.

Landtank

2012-06-13, 10:33 PM

My ping to New York is 91 from San Diego.

Well it looks like I'll be getting a new ISP :cry::cry::cry:

Ragefighter

2012-06-13, 10:35 PM

well the server in LV doesn't seem to be that great (from speedtest) unless there is some kind of bottleneck there idk...
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007598393.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007589952.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007599993.pnghttp://www.speedtest.net/result/2007613000.png

Phellix

2012-06-13, 10:46 PM

If its only one server it should be placed in the midwest, Chicago. To me thats the most logical fairest way its a huge hub basically in the center of the USA.

You have an interesting view of where the center of the USA is

Landtank

2012-06-13, 10:49 PM

You have an interesting view of where the center of the USA is

Yes indeed, some people have a funny sense of geography. Chicago is a major internet hub though.

Tarconus

2012-06-13, 10:56 PM

-- PING soe.com (64.37.171.32) 56(84) bytes of data. ---
64 bytes from 64.37.171.32: icmp_req=1 ttl=116 time=172 ms
64 bytes from 64.37.171.32: icmp_req=2 ttl=116 time=172 ms
64 bytes from 64.37.171.32: icmp_req=3 ttl=116 time=172 ms
64 bytes from 64.37.171.32: icmp_req=4 ttl=116 time=172 ms
thats if there web server is in the same location and I am in seattle.

The speed test to san diego was only 60 ms though so that's kinda wonky.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007669320.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2007669320.png
129 to vegas yep that's a good choice let me tell you lol Everyone is getting screwed by vegas Mines not terrible but wtf

dsi

2012-06-13, 11:01 PM

There need to be East(NY), West(SD), and North(Chicago)/South(Dallas) Central servers at minimum.

SirDart

2012-06-14, 01:58 AM

I am not sure is accurate that their will be only one single server once it is released. There may be one 'login' server, or one 'player validation' server, which would track who is active online, and to inform users the general status events the bases and resources, but I believe the server communication will be much more localized when it comes to the actual movement and fire interaction.

We live in a cloud computing world now, and there could be players logging in from UK, that are in the vicinity of other players from the EU and East coast. Fair enough, have a cloud server running to manage these players who are nearest each other so the ping time is 'on average' low for everybody, and no one is bad off. If there is one player in LA and 50 others in Aussieland, but all are in line-of-sight to one another in game, it may actually be the guy in LA who may experience a slight lag (maybe not in reality, I am only speculating).

You kinda see an example in PS1, with the 'Blue waypoint', when a squad or platoon is running, it shows a waypoint where the center of the squad/platoon is. Just choose the nearest server on the global map to take advantage of the speed.

Servers are becoming ubiquitous, similar to how having a network hub or switch have become. Sure, the software is specialized for use in that area, but it can be cloned at will, as needed, where the demand is greatest at any time. The future is technology!

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-14, 02:42 AM

If its only one server it should be placed in the midwest, Chicago. To me thats the most logical fairest way its a huge hub basically in the center of the USA.

No, we need to make it fair and put it in the middle of the US, in Kansas.

(I am obviously joking. I have to say that because too many people miss the obvious.)

Karmic Revenge

2012-06-14, 02:44 AM

129 to vegas yep that's a good choice let me tell you lol Everyone is getting screwed by vegas Mines not terrible but wtf

a) That server is bad.
b) If we're all getting screwed, at least that's a level playing surface.

GuyFawkes

2012-06-14, 02:56 AM

Just from a game perspective , I feel they took this decision to have more chance of filling servers 24/7 with a spread of players.
They are selling the game on the idea of massive constant war .Splitting the fight into timezones defeats this in many ways .
Other than obvious and quite legitimate concerns by posters about ping/lag I wonder if they have thought how this will play out when it comes to maintenance and patching. It could be 2am in san diego but a full firefight may be going on for players from another zone in their primetime.

Envenom

2012-06-14, 02:59 AM

west is best ;)

StumpyTheOzzie

2012-06-14, 07:13 AM

Best of 3:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2008212930.png

Oh yeah! you're all going down!

(Interestingly:
Pinging soe.com [64.37.171.32] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 64.37.171.32: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=118
Reply from 64.37.171.32: bytes=32 time=194ms TTL=118
Reply from 64.37.171.32: bytes=32 time=193ms TTL=118
Reply from 64.37.171.32: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=118)

exLupo

2012-06-14, 07:22 AM

Austin or Dallas

That would make everyone happy, and make me really happy.

Austin routes through Dallas to get on major lines. Going to put in another for Dallas or Chicago.

Xyntech

2012-06-14, 08:18 AM

I'm in Utah, and I get better pings to New York than to Las Vegas.

Intradesting.

Electrofreak

2012-06-14, 10:32 AM

Gentlemen, I present to you the solution to all of your problems:

http://downloadmorebandwidth.com/

Crator

2012-06-14, 10:46 AM

Nash

2012-06-14, 11:12 AM

Brusi

2012-06-14, 11:14 AM

no, thread title missed the part about EU having it's own.

wasdie

2012-06-14, 11:17 AM

Everybody here is terribly underestimating modern networks. It will likely not be a problem.

Mechzz

2012-06-14, 11:26 AM

I'm sorry if this has been answered already but i really don't have the time to search trough 26 pages.

Anyways, what about the EU players? Will we have EU servers or are we forced to play on the US servers aswell?

Thanks in advance :)

no, thread title missed the part about EU having it's own.

Bags already apologised for the title, he ran out of space :)

Players in Europe will have the choice to play on either European or US servers and vice versa.

ezekiul

2012-06-14, 11:29 AM

Really hope this isn't true. 50-60ms is an eternity in most FPS games. This could possibly give west-coast players a noticeable advantage, although it remains to be seen how the client is affected by ping differential.

In PS1 its acceptable to have between 50-100 ping, however I do live on the west coast and dropped down to 20-40 ping when servers moved so I got a little spoiled. But I also noticed people warp a lot more D:

archaonn

2012-06-14, 12:50 PM

Lol, i see a lot of people complaining about 100-150 ms. I live in South America, and playing blacklight west/east server I get like 200 ms, and I do great.

Otleaz

2012-06-15, 09:07 PM

This is still a problem, I believe.

Phellix

2012-06-15, 09:09 PM

This is still a problem, I believe.
Really. There is no problem because we have no confirmed information, STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD.

Otleaz

2012-06-15, 09:16 PM

Really. There is no problem because we have no confirmed information, STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD.

How are we going to get confirmation if they don't know we want it?

Inverness

2012-06-15, 10:38 PM

What we need are servers on the west coast, gulf coast (or in Dallas or something), and east coast when considering the US. I live in Houston and I wont have it as bad as people on the opposite coast of the servers but it is still pretty annoying.

Though I don't expect any of this to be too much of an issue due to improvements in networking code nowadays.

Top Sgt

2012-06-15, 11:23 PM

If its only one server it should be placed in the midwest, Chicago. To me thats the most logical fairest way its a huge hub basically in the center of the USA.

it's not quite in the dead middle of the US but he's right tho Chicago is one of the 3 main hubs in the USA and it is "central" united states still.

kansas is dead center but nothing in kansas but missile installations and plenty of them.

EightEightEight

2012-06-19, 11:41 AM

SOE currently has their server farm in Las Vegas and is supporting at least DC Online there if not many other games

Artimus

2012-06-22, 10:58 PM

Anyone from Chicago will say its the center and that we have the most normal voices/accent :p

Artimus

2012-06-22, 11:03 PM

You have an interesting view of where the center of the USA is

If you know a bigger hub thats closer to the center then plz share otherwise you comments are pointless

james

2012-06-22, 11:07 PM

If thats the case, this hurts the game, despite what some people say. Ping does matter in a game were people die quickly. There is a reason why there is ping kick on most severs. If you want to be cheap and only have severs in one place, please put them in the middle so its fair for both the east and west coast.

indirect

2012-06-22, 11:08 PM

If you know a bigger hub thats closer to the center then plz share otherwise you comments are pointless

Dalas, OKC, KC, St. Louis...

Just to name a few that are very well known for having great speeds and a numerous amount of farms.

AThreatToYou

2012-06-23, 12:23 AM

I ping great to Dallas. If the servers were all in Dallas, I think I would be OK.
But in San Diego? PLEASE OH LAWD NO

I understand that there is no literal need for regional servers any more. However, if the game is going to have multiple servers, they should seriously consider placing them in three regional locations across the US: Some in Cali, some in Dallas, some on the east (like chicago or virginia).

..

And isn't there a big net hub in TN?