How will you play - Competitively or Casually?

[Zulthus]

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

[Aurmanite]

I don't think you have to pick either one.

Even during my more relaxed play sessions I'm still going to be doing work, and when I'm being serious I'm still just gonna be having fun.

[NewSith]

Hint - Both can also be applied, but I guess it's "other".

[Stew]

Competitive all the way !

[Zulthus]

Hint - Both can also be applied, but I guess it's "other".

Yeah true... didn't think of that.

[ArmedZealot]

I will likely be playing for 30min-1hr sessions during the work week. On free weekend days 7+ hours.

So mostly casual.

[Timealude]

depends on how much time i have to play

[PrISM]

LOL @ the casuals

[maradine]

LOL @ the casuals

I suspect that the casuals probably feel the same way about you.

[Phellix]

I suspect that the casuals probably feel the same way about you.

qft

[NewSith]

LOL @ the casuals

You better not be on the other side of my Liberator gun when I play casually...

You see, a support dude can't really competitively play to 100%. But 80/0 killcount for my BF3 chopper gunner on a normal server with normal tickets in what you call a "casual" game session speaks for itself, doesn't it? ;)

[Zolan]

I chose other since there was no option for Commando.

[Aurmanite]

Casual vs Hardcore in video games is mostly a measurement of time spent playing.

Hardcore players like to think it's a measurement of skill and awesomeness.

It isn't.

[ArmedZealot]

tro-lolololololol successful.

I chose other since there was no option for Commando.


agreed.

[Zulthus]

Casual vs Hardcore in video games is mostly a measurement of time spent playing.

Hardcore players like to think it's a measurement of skill and awesomeness.

It isn't.

That

[NewSith]

tro-lolololololol successful.

Stop calling every joke a troll. This is getting annoying. That's even more trolly than actual trolling.

[Ghstmarauder]

Casual vs Hardcore in video games is mostly a measurement of time spent playing.

Hardcore players like to think it's a measurement of skill and awesomeness.

It isn't.

So much truth it needs to be quoted twice

[ArmedZealot]

Stop calling every joke a troll. This is getting annoying. That's even more trolly than actual trolling.

Sorry but on this forum everyone is serious business. "LOL CASUALS" still gets a few feathers ruffled.

[indirect]

Stop calling every joke a troll. This is getting annoying. That's even more trolly than actual trolling.

He's a WoW baby, doesn't actually know what trolling is.

[Aurmanite]

Sorry but on this forum everyone is serious business. "LOL CASUALS" still gets a few feathers ruffled.

LOL Feathers

[NewSith]

Sorry but on this forum everyone is serious business. "LOL CASUALS" still gets a few feathers ruffled.

Whose? Mine or Aurmanite's? I mean we said what was needed to be said, we could've said it without Prism's post....


But anyway. Competitive play is something I feel I'll be more diverted into, due to (now) being a member of Werner's ehm.. "finest"???

[Vexus]

Even if I end up being unable to put enough time into it to be considered competitive I'm sure I will be trying to further team goals, capturing/defending points, and trying to help my faction get stuff done. Can I play 8-10 hours a day M-F? No. But I can probably put in a good 2 hours during the week and big days on the weekends. Am I casual because of my amount of playtime? Does my team-focus change that?

[Sirisian]

I'm probably going to grab a Liberator and just let people gun for me like I did in PS1 and rack up the experience casually. It was relaxing in the first game once you memorized where everyone would be during a battle.

That and sit back and play the game slowly for maximum k/d. Good times. :)

[SixShooter]

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

Where is the option for COMPULSIVELY like a crack head hittin that rock? I really hope that we get a fair amount of warning so I can schedule some time off for release and live and breath all that is PS2.

Guess I'll just choose other ;)

[Sledgecrushr]

Casually competitive.

[Bags]

How do you play planetside competitively?

I don't think there's gonna be sponsors.

[PrISM]

You see, a support dude can't really competitively play to 100%. But 80/0 killcount for my BF3 chopper gunner on a normal server with normal tickets in what you call a "casual" game session speaks for itself, doesn't it? ;)
Sounds an awful lot like something you're trying to prove?

[SKYeXile]

omg tards, Hardcore is how you spend your time playing its requires some dedication, yes because you need knowledge and you don't get that by playing for 5 minutes every day, you need to put sometime into the game or be actively reading up on the game.

There are some people who play games for 18 hours a day, they spend their time prancing around doing daily quests, slowy grinding up their mounts or in the case of planetside, sit around in sanc and take screenshots of their zerg outfit in formation. These players arnt hardcore, dispite their playtime.

Hardcore is playing with a purpose and spending your time wisely, I only play PS for about 4-6 hours per night, in that time, i dont stop, i would read some stuff during the day on breaks to confirm I'm running the right loadouts so when i play there is no messing around, there is just killing.

You casuals dont understand the hardcore mindset and never will or perhaps you are more hardcore than you think, you are after all on a pre release game forum, there is nothing casual about that.

[ArmedZealot]

omg tards, Hardcore is how you spend your time playing its requires some dedication, yes because you need knowledge and you don't get that by playing for 5 minutes every day, you need to put sometime into the game or be actively reading up on the game.

There are some people who play games for 18 hours a day, they spend their time prancing around doing daily quests, slowy grinding up their mounts or in the case of planetside, sit around in sanc and take screenshots of their zerg outfit in formation. These players arnt hardcore, dispite their playtime.

Hardcore is playing with a purpose and spending your time wisely, I only play PS for about 4-6 hours per night, in that time, i dont stop, i would read some stuff during the day on breaks to confirm I'm running the right loadouts so when i play there is no messing around, there is just killing.

You casuals dont understand the hardcore mindset and never will or perhaps you are more hardcore than you think, you are after all on a pre release game forum, there is nothing casual about that.

Hey guys! I'm Hardcore!

[TazmamzaT]

I'm going with other because I go through stages when I play video games. When I start off during the day I get really competitive and tryhard, but then as time goes on my effort varies inversely to the point where I'm not playing, I'm just existing.

Edit: [Afterthought] This is just for playing during the day and not in a specific group. If I were to be in a competitive group then I would give it my all.

[BattsTR]

Competitive when I have time to play. Though not as much as I use to be able to. :(

[Aurmanite]

omg tards, *self-aggrandizing nerd rant*

You're half right, but about 3/4 wrong.

You are trying to re-define what hardcore means. The problem is, hardcore has already been defined.

[SixShooter]

Hey guys! I'm Hardcore!

Softcore is for pussies!

[Aurmanite]

Softcore is for pussies!

I love pussy.

[Phellix]

How do you play planetside competitively?

I don't think there's gonna be sponsors.

You don't need a sponsor to play competitively, If my friends/clanmates made an outfit we'd compete to be the best just because that's how we like to play.

[TazmamzaT]

You don't need a sponsor to play competitively, If my friends/clanmates made an outfit we'd compete to be the best just because that's how we like to play.

Hey that's the spirt! Play well because you want to, not because you have monetary gain.

[Phellix]

You're half right, but about 3/4 wrong.

You are trying to re-define what hardcore means. The problem is, hardcore has already been defined.

Not really, everyone has their own definition/opinion of hardcore based on what they've seen and/or been apart of.

[Aurmanite]

Not really, everyone has their own definition/opinion of hardcore based on what they've seen and/or been apart of.

What the...

You can't redefine a word to your liking. That would be insanity.

[Greeniegriz]

Other/Both. Sometimes you just want to run around with only a pistol and see how many kill you can get that night.

Cheers,

GG

[maradine]

What the...

You can't redefine a word to your liking. That would be insanity.

A very good point. As such, I'm sure you'll be happy with the original, circa 1935 definition of the word:

hard core 
noun
1.
the permanent, dedicated, and completely faithful nucleus of a group or movement, as of a political party.
2.
an unyielding or intransigent element in a social or organizational structure, as that part of a group consisting of longtime adherents or those resistant to change.
3.
those whose condition seems to be without hope of remedy or change.


See? Everyone here's hardcore. You all win!

[NEWSKIS]

Competitive means playing in actually setup tournaments, otherwise you can't call it that. So you really can only play it casually lol.

[SKYeXile]

You're half right, but about 3/4 wrong.

You are trying to re-define what hardcore means. The problem is, hardcore has already been defined.

by a random nobody on PSU of all places? meaningless.

Atleast use the dictionary man, it means committed , ideology and outlook on something or particular view and committed does not translate into excessive playtime.

[Bags]

You don't need a sponsor to play competitively, If my friends/clanmates made an outfit we'd compete to be the best just because that's how we like to play.

But who doesn't play to compete with other players? If you're shooting them, you're competing. :confused::confused:

[TazmamzaT]

A very good point. As such, I'm sure you'll be happy with the original, circa 1935 definition of the word:

hard core 
noun
1.
the permanent, dedicated, and completely faithful nucleus of a group or movement, as of a political party.
2.
an unyielding or intransigent element in a social or organizational structure, as that part of a group consisting of longtime adherents or those resistant to change.
3.
those whose condition seems to be without hope of remedy or change.


See? Everyone here's hardcore. You all win!
/thread

[Phellix]

What the...

You can't redefine a word to your liking. That would be insanity.

You're joking, right?

[Aurmanite]

by a random nobody on PSU of all places? meaningless..

You're hilarious.

Atleast use the dictionary man, it means committed , ideology and outlook on something or particular view

No, it doesn't.

[SKYeXile]

You're joking, right?

Irony is awesome.

(I'm not referring to you BTW)

[Phellix]

Competitive means playing in actually setup tournaments, otherwise you can't call it that. So you really can only play it casually lol.

I'm sorry, what? So all these years where i've been playing games hardcore and strive to be the best at what i do wasn't being competitive because i wasn't in a tournament? Damn, what have i been doing this whole time.

But who doesn't play to compete with other players? If you're shooting them, you're competing. :confused::confused:
This is true to a degree yes, but there's a difference of playing the game casually, and playing the game to be the best because that's what you like to do, not everyone strives to be that way.

[NEWSKIS]

I'm sorry, what? So all these years where i've been playing games hardcore and strive to be the best at what i do wasn't being competitive because i wasn't in a tournament? Damn, what have i been doing this whole time.

How about we all agree that everyone's definition of competitive and casual are all over the place lol.

[TazmamzaT]

How about we all agree that everyone's definition of competitive and casual are all over the place lol.
Hehe yeah It's turning into a cat fight in here.

[SKYeXile]

A very good point. As such, I'm sure you'll be happy with the original, circa 1935 definition of the word:

hard core 
noun
1.
the permanent, dedicated, and completely faithful nucleus of a group or movement, as of a political party.
2.
an unyielding or intransigent element in a social or organizational structure, as that part of a group consisting of longtime adherents or those resistant to change.
3.
those whose condition seems to be without hope of remedy or change.


See? Everyone here's hardcore. You all win!

by a random nobody on PSU of all places? meaningless.

Atleast use the dictionary man, it means committed , ideology and outlook on something or particular view and committed does not translate into excessive playtime.


You're hilarious.



No, it doesn't.

And we're done here.

[Phellix]

How about we all agree that everyone's definition of competitive and casual are all over the place lol.
That's what i said before...lol, everyone has their own opinion of what hardcore is.


Hehe yeah It's turning into a cat fight in here.
Just a discussion, but it's irritating when people think that what they think is right is the only thing that's right and attack others for having an opinion

[Aurmanite]

How about we all agree that everyone's definition of competitive and casual are all over the place lol.

The problem lies in trying to sum up the entirety of the playerbase with two words.

It's not enough words.

[Vanir]

I will play for fun.

[Landtank]

Well seeing as I have 16 corporate sponsors I'll be playing competitively.

[Aurmanite]

And we're done here.

That definition you quoted completely contradicts what you tried to define the word to be.

Look, you're a dude with a my little pony avatar. You and I will likely never agree on anything.

You can be ignorant and high on yourself all you want. It ain't no thang to me. But when you start spewing crap about ideology and e-fame, expect to get checked.

It's for your own good.

[Turdicus]

I was told by a shadowy figure that if I shoot Vanu and NC I would receive a cookie. For 9 years I have been shooting these animated monsters who somehow bar me from my sugary nirvana. And I suspect it will be many more years before I am able to end this madness.

The craziest part? I don't even know what kind of cookie it will be. It could be oatmeal raisin. I hate oatmeal raisin

[Landtank]

I will play for fun.

http://narwhaler.com/img/f3/i/impossibru-F3Ie2V.jpg

[TazmamzaT]

I was told by a shadowy figure that if I shoot Vanu and NC I would receive a cookie. For 9 years I have been shooting these animated monsters who somehow bar me from my sugary nirvana. And I suspect it will be many more years before I am able to end this madness.

The craziest part? I don't even know what kind of cookie it will be. It could be oatmeal raisin. I hate oatmeal raisin
You gave me a hearty Lol and I am going to save this someplace. Perhaps quote it in my sig area or something.

[kaffis]

I'll be a hopefully successful and smart casual player, I suppose.

I like to learn the ins and outs of the games I play, and apply what I learn to increase my efficiency and inform my strategy. My twitch skills aren't what they were 15 years ago when I was playing UT. I gravitate towards squad leadership and support roles to force-multiply my squad. And I doubt I'll be able to play 3-4 hour sessions nightly, but will probably get 12-20 hours in a week and itch for more.

So.. whatever that makes me.

[Dairian]

All day every day until we sleep.

[SKYeXile]

That definition you quoted completely contradicts what you tried to define the word to be.

Look, you're a dude with a my little pony avatar. You and I will likely never agree on anything.

You can be ignorant and high on yourself all you want. It ain't no thang to me. But when you start spewing crap about ideology and e-fame, expect to get checked.

It's for your own good.

last time i checked(i actually haven't checked) dedicated, and completely faithful comes up next to committed. But cool, go back go back to Uganda or whatever the fuck 3rd world education school you went to and argue with them on what the meaning of a word in a dictionary is.

I'm bored with you and im going to go find somebody else to use the juggernaut troll on, while i watch more MLP.

http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/memes-it-has-begun-brony.jpg

[Landtank]

last time i checked(i actually haven't checked) dedicated, and completely faithful comes up next to committed. But cool, go back go back to Uganda or whatever the fuck 3rd world education school you went to and argue with them on what the meaning of a word in a dictionary is.

I'm bored with you and im going to go find somebody else to use the juggernaut troll on, while i watch more MLP.

Your absolutely absurd racism and fascism is both stunning and disgusting.

I still read that with an Australian accent, but now I am upset with you.

Here I thought you were a chick, so now the accent seems unbelievably less sexy. Needless to say I'm upset.

[ArmedZealot]

Wow. This thread went to that bad place quick.


EEEwwww.....

[SKYeXile]

Your absolutely absurd racism and fascism is both stunning and disgusting.

I still read that with an Australian accent, but now I am upset with you.

Here I thought you were a chick, so now the accent seems unbelievably less sexy. Needless to say I'm upset.

I may have gone too far with that, you think the people of Uganda will be upset with me?

also my voice is sensual and soothing, but sometimes more nasally when im giving orders or talking on vent when im trolling somebody on forums, so practically all the time, its nasally. (thats right we talk about trolling on vent and our private forums, we're that hardcore about it)

[TazmamzaT]

Your absolutely absurd racism and fascism is both stunning and disgusting.

I still read that with an Australian accent, but now I am upset with you.

Here I thought you were a chick, so now the accent seems unbelievably less sexy. Needless to say I'm upset.
Ehh don't feed the troll.

[Aurmanite]

One of the main problems we're dealing with here is your perception of yourself. You think that because you are great at playing a game you are some sort of authority on it. You aren't. There are world champions that probably can't name 1/2 of the techniques they use.

Hardcore gaming has always been about the amount of time invested. You can't be hardcore if you don't have what most people would consider an excessive amount of time to play. Hardcore players have this time so they naturally learn/master/complete games faster. Once this happens, it becomes more about using that mastery/max level/shit in a competitive way.

I ain't saying that hardcore players are the best at the game, because there are plenty of hardcore players that are bad. If you read anything other than rage comics and lolmarkovforums, you'd have a deeper understanding of this truth.

Here's a little example that may, or may not open your eyes to what the hell you're trying to agrue against but are looking like an idiot doing so.

I had several friends in WoW that almost never raided or PvP'd, but still spent 6+hours every day 7 days a week playing the game...for 5 years. They basically ran the auction houses on a couple of servers back in the day. They were slightly infamous and when people like you would inspect their gear they would have to deal with the same tripe I'm dealing with now. These guys would handle it by opening a trade with the morons and put up 50 squillion gold.

These dudes made hundreds of real dollars, but by your shitty definition they wouldn't be considered hardcore because they weren't using their ubarskillz to pwn noobs.

TLDR; You're such an average 'leet' or '1337' gamer. Good skills (supposedly), shit brains.

[Conq]

I'll play seriously enough but not for long periods and not every day. Hate to sound like a life coach or anything but I used to do that, played 6+ hours every day and it really fucked up my life and health. Casual is the only way to go unless you are stuck in a wheel chair or horrifically disfigured. :)

[TazmamzaT]

One of the main problems we're dealing with here is your perception of yourself. You think that because you are great at playing a game you are some sort of authority on it. You aren't. There are world champions that probably can't name 1/2 of the techniques they use.

Hardcore gaming has always been about the amount of time invested. You can't be hardcore if you don't have what most people would consider an excessive amount of time to play. Hardcore players have this time so they naturally learn/master/complete games faster. Once this happens, it becomes more about using that mastery/max level/shit in a competitive way.

I ain't saying that hardcore players are the best at the game, because there are plenty of hardcore players that are bad. If you read anything other than rage comics and lolmarkovforums, you'd have a deeper understanding of this truth.

Here's a little example that may, or may not open your eyes to what the hell you're trying to agrue against but are looking like an idiot doing so.

I had several friends in WoW that almost never raided or PvP'd, but still spent 6+hours every day 7 days a week playing the game...for 5 years. They basically ran the auction houses on a couple of servers back in the day. They were slightly infamous and when people like you would inspect their gear they would have to deal with the same tripe I'm dealing with now. They would handle it by opening a trade with the morons and put up 50 squillion gold.

By your shitty definition of hardcore, these guys wouldn't make the cut.

TLDR; You're such an average 'leet' or '1337' gamer. Good skills (supposedly), shit brains.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif

[WNxThentar]

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

Both. When I'm on alone and most of my outfit are asleep because they are on the other side of the world I often just flow with the zerg.

When my outfit is running squads we are very task oriented. Its kind of hard to run coordinated squads with greenies so I tend to stick to my own thing if my outfit isn't running a squad or some friendly outfit needs some help that I've run with before.

Note that casual gamers by the nature of the mission system become involved with the teamwork even if they aren't actively trying to figure out what needs to be done or even listening to the commanders over chat.

[SKYeXile]

I'm bored with you and im going to go find somebody else to use the juggernaut troll on, while i watch more MLP.


One of the main problems we're dealing with here is your perception of yourself. You think that because you are great at playing a game you are some sort of authority on it. You aren't. There are world champions that probably can't name 1/2 of the techniques they use.

TLDR; You're such an average 'leet' or '1337' gamer. Good skills (supposedly), shit brains.

This is a picture of a shocked pony, it resembles my face right about now.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/mlp/images/6/61/S02E25_Twilight_is_shocked.png

[Furber]

Casual vs Hardcore in video games is mostly a measurement of time spent playing.

Hardcore players like to think it's a measurement of skill and awesomeness.

It isn't.

Just what I was thinking.

I'll probably play the game a ton, like 3-5 hours a day and whole days on weekends. However, I don't take games as seriously as other people do. I play to have fun, not just to win.

[RandomNPC]

People are mixing up competitive with professional. Zzz

edit: Also competitive with hardcore.

The poll is asking: Are you gonna be a try hard or relax and give no shits.

[Aurmanite]

People are mixing up competitive with professional. Zzz

edit: Also competitive with hardcore.

The poll is asking: Are you gonna be a try hard or relax and give no shits.

I plan to give intermittent fucks.

Some fucks here, some fucks there, other times no fucks at all.

But rest assured...
Fucks will be given!

[captainkapautz]

Not really, everyone has their own definition/opinion of hardcore based on what they've seen and/or been apart of.

Quoting this out of context to show the juicy double entendre it contains.

[Landtank]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif

I prefer this one:

http://i.imgur.com/7coCy.gif

[GreatMazinkaise]

Hardcore - penetration and money shots

FC's got lots of that! :D

[Aurmanite]

Quoting this out of context to show the juicy double entendre it contains.

Dude

Nice catch.

We almost missed that one.

[captainkapautz]

Dude

Nice catch.

We almost missed that one.

Thank you, I aim to please.

I plan to give intermittent fucks.

Some fucks here, some fucks there, other times no fucks at all.

But rest assured...
Fucks will be given!

I'm gonna ROFLstomp people honeybadger-style.

[TazmamzaT]

I prefer this one:

http://i.imgur.com/7coCy.gif
I was going to use that one but I found the one that I used first. I like them both equally to be honest.

[Phellix]

One of the main problems we're dealing with here is your perception of yourself. You think that because you are great at playing a game you are some sort of authority on it. You aren't. There are world champions that probably can't name 1/2 of the techniques they use.

Hardcore gaming has always been about the amount of time invested. You can't be hardcore if you don't have what most people would consider an excessive amount of time to play. Hardcore players have this time so they naturally learn/master/complete games faster. Once this happens, it becomes more about using that mastery/max level/shit in a competitive way.

I ain't saying that hardcore players are the best at the game, because there are plenty of hardcore players that are bad. If you read anything other than rage comics and lolmarkovforums, you'd have a deeper understanding of this truth.

Here's a little example that may, or may not open your eyes to what the hell you're trying to agrue against but are looking like an idiot doing so.

I had several friends in WoW that almost never raided or PvP'd, but still spent 6+hours every day 7 days a week playing the game...for 5 years. They basically ran the auction houses on a couple of servers back in the day. They were slightly infamous and when people like you would inspect their gear they would have to deal with the same tripe I'm dealing with now. These guys would handle it by opening a trade with the morons and put up 50 squillion gold.

These dudes made hundreds of real dollars, but by your shitty definition they wouldn't be considered hardcore because they weren't using their ubarskillz to pwn noobs.

TLDR; You're such an average 'leet' or '1337' gamer. Good skills (supposedly), shit brains.

I don't know who you're referring to, but i hope to god it isn't me. I'd rather not knock you down off your high horse. I'd rather not waste my time because you seem like the type that doesn't know when to quit.

I will quote myself because this doesn't seem to be getting across,

everyone has their own opinion of what hardcore is.
It's just a discussion, but it's irritating when people think that what they think is right is the only thing that's right and attack others for having an opinion

[SKYeXile]

Here's a little example that may, or may not open your eyes to what the hell you're trying to agrue against but are looking like an idiot doing so.

I had several friends in WoW that almost never raided or PvP'd, but still spent 6+hours every day 7 days a week playing the game...for 5 years. They basically ran the auction houses on a couple of servers back in the day. They were slightly infamous and when people like you would inspect their gear they would have to deal with the same tripe I'm dealing with now. These guys would handle it by opening a trade with the morons and put up 50 squillion gold.

These dudes made hundreds of real dollars, but by your shitty definition they wouldn't be considered hardcore because they weren't using their ubarskillz to pwn noobs.



Oh yes, forgot about this, Gold farmers aint Hardcore mate, sorry.

[Landtank]

I don't know who you're referring to, but i hope to god it isn't me. I'd rather not knock you down off your high horse. I'd rather not waste my time because you seem like the type that doesn't know when to quit.

I will quote myself because this doesn't seem to be getting across,

everyone has their own opinion of what hardcore is.
It's just a discussion, but it's irritating when people think that what they think is right is the only thing that's right and attack others for having an opinion

I think we can all agree that Urban Dictionary is the most reliable source for all of our obscure English word needs:

Hardcore

having an intense (often excessive) interest in or enthusiasm for some particular activity, pastime or hobby
I can't believe he went to a strip club at 12:30 in the afternoon. That's pretty hard core.

[Phellix]

Quoting this out of context to show the juicy double entendre it contains.

Quote away, it's straightforward.

[Aurmanite]

I don't know who you're referring to, but i hope to god it isn't me. I'd rather not knock you down off your high horse. But i'd rather not waste my time because you seem like the type that doesn't know when to quit.

I will quote myself because this doesn't seem to be getting across,

everyone has their own opinion of what hardcore is.
It's just a discussion, but it's irritating when people think that what they think is right is the only thing that's right and attack others for having an opinion

The truth is that there is no consensus on what the definition of 'hardcore gamer' really is. Mostly because discussion on the topic ends up like this thread. Oops.

There are some things that have become accepted over the years. Do a lil Google search and there's loads of articles on this subject. Having an opinion on something is fine. People are entitled to their opinion.

The problem is when people start trying to defend an opinion that is wrong, or very close to wrong. Contrary to what we are all taught in the second grade, opinions can be wrong.

[TazmamzaT]

I think we can all agree that Urban Dictionary is the most reliable source for all of our obscure English word needs:

Hardcore

having an intense (often excessive) interest in or enthusiasm for some particular activity, pastime or hobby
I can't believe he went to a strip club at 12:30 in the afternoon. That's pretty hard core.
Oh shucks, I was almost certain that Urban Dictionary would have the porn meaning first.

[burnoutbob]

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

i enjoy playing with teamwork but i dont care about stats
i like getting shit done but im laid back and enjoy it

imo stats dont really mean shit in an mmofps (in ps1 it diddnt anyways)

[DerFurst]

Of course I'm going to be playing to do well, but that doesn't mean I have to follow the "established rules" of how to play. Part of the fun is using the unorthodox.

[SKYeXile]

I think we can all agree that Urban Dictionary is the most reliable source for all of our obscure English word needs:

Hardcore

having an intense (often excessive) interest in or enthusiasm for some particular activity, pastime or hobby
I can't believe he went to a strip club at 12:30 in the afternoon. That's pretty hard core.

shit, forgot about the urban dictionary, this always right. Speaking of that, who wants to taste the rainbow in the middle of an Eiffel tower with me?

[ArmedZealot]

Oh shucks, I was almost certain that Urban Dictionary would have the porn meaning first.

No shit. Me and you both. Is Urban actually becoming reputable?

[Saintlycow]

I plan to give intermittent fucks.

Some fucks here, some fucks there, other times no fucks at all.

But rest assured...
Fucks will be given!

Can I make that my sig?

Please:groovy:

[SKYeXile]

i enjoy playing with teamwork but i dont care about stats
i like getting shit done but im laid back and enjoy it

imo stats dont really mean shit in an mmofps (in ps1 it diddnt anyways)

Yes people say this about world of tanks too, those people typically have bad stats.

[Aurmanite]

Oh yes, forgot about this, Gold farmers aint Hardcore mate, sorry.

Way to prove that all your posturing about the amount of fuck you give about this thread, and my responses, is total bullshit.

You give fucks.

You're also wrong. Those dudes were plenty hardcore. You're just bound up by your limited view (and understanding) of the concept.

Anyways, if we keep bitching at each other like this we're gonna get in shit. There's plenty of cartoons made for tweenagers out there for you to watch, get on it.

[TazmamzaT]

No shit. Me and you both. Is Urban actually becoming reputable?
I would say so. I have gotten some useful, non dirty, information from there lately.

[Aurmanite]

Can I make that my sig?

Please:groovy:

Absolutely!

[TazmamzaT]

Yes people say this about world of tanks too, those people typically have bad stats.
That may be true, but then they obviously don't care. Why do you?

[Landtank]

I would say so. I have gotten some useful, non dirty, information from there lately.

Urban Dictionary has been awfully disappointing lately.

[GreatMazinkaise]

Yes people say this about world of tanks too, those people typically have bad stats.

<- Guilty as charged. I do play with people that DO have good stats though.

[Hamma]

I'm just going to play and enjoy the company of my friends and outfit mates. :D

[TazmamzaT]

I'm just going to play and enjoy the company of my friends and outfit mates. :D
Why would you do that when you could sit in forums and argue with people over the meaning of your statement?

EDIT: Some obvious satire

[Saintlycow]

Absolutely!

Thanks!


On topic, I'll probably play casually, but try to play with capturing and securing objective in mind instead of killing stuff like mad.

[SKYeXile]

Way to prove that all your posturing about the amount of fuck you give about this thread, and my responses, is total bullshit.

You give fucks.

You're also wrong. Those dudes were plenty hardcore. You're just bound up by your limited view (and understanding) of the concept.

Anyways, if we keep bitching at each other like this we're gonna get in shit. There's plenty of cartoons made for tweenagers out there for you to watch, get on it.

My limited view can be attributed to me been that hardcore.

hard-core (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hard-core) also hard·core (härdkôr, -kr)
adj.
1. Intensely loyal; die-hard: a hard-core secessionist; a hard-core golfer.
2. Stubbornly resistant to improvement or change: hard-core poverty.
3. Extremely graphic or explicit: hard-core pornography.

You're right, i do care, this is sort of a sport for me.

[burnoutbob]

Yes people say this about world of tanks too, those people typically have bad stats.

i dont know about world of tanks because i have never heard of it but really does it matter what my stats are if i have fun?

[kaffis]

i dont know about world of tanks because i have never heard of it but really does it matter what my stats are if i have fun?
Yes, it matters, because SkyeXile's are higher. Duh.

[Phellix]

The truth is that there is no consensus on what the definition of 'hardcore gamer' really is. Mostly because discussion on the topic ends up like this thread. Oops.

There are some things that have become accepted over the years. Do a lil Google search and there's loads of articles on this subject. Having an opinion on something is fine. People are entitled to their opinion.

The problem is when people start trying to defend an opinion that is wrong, or very close to wrong. Contrary to what we are all taught in the second grade, opinions can be wrong.

Except there's misconceptions being placed around here about being hardcore, being competitive, and being an all star player who gets paid to play.(I don't see any way of the latter being possible in PS2)

I'm not defending anything, i'm saying be realistic about others having the idea that being a "hardcore gamer" can be interpreted very differently which you seem to understand so I don't get why we're arguing about it. Also i have to say this, hardcore/=/excessive playtime *ALL the time, for some players yeah, but not everyone. Also depends on the game, i've played plenty of games over the years at different levels of "fucks given" to understand the difference. :)

[SKYeXile]

That may be true, but then they obviously don't care. Why do you?
I dont care fro them, i care for the stats though.

<- Guilty as charged. I do play with people that DO have good stats though.

thats the best way to raise your stats! though theres a point where too many good players on a team means your stats become normalised though, since normally you would have to carry the people who are bad at internet tanks further by yourself.

[GreatMazinkaise]

i dont know about world of tanks because i have never heard of it but really does it matter what my stats are if i have fun?

It depends? It doesn't matter to you, but it does impact the legitimacy of complaints you have about a game (a lot of nerfs/buffs go into a game just because players are bad). In a game with team play your stats may well indicate how much of a drag you are on your compatriots; obviously non-recorded beneficial activities negate this.

[SKYeXile]

i dont know about world of tanks because i have never heard of it but really does it matter what my stats are if i have fun?

nope! just dont say they're meaningless or try to boss me around...or be on my team when you're the top tier tank and rush of to your death in the first 15 seconds because you have no clue on what an arty is yet alone been atry safe etc... :P

world of tanks is sort of at the extreame end of things though, since others can greatly effect the result of a match, for positive or worse, you can clearly see who is or isnt pulling their weight on avg. at a glance in WOT.

[Xyntech]

I played more casual in the first Planetside, but I intend to play more competitively in PS2.

[Meriv]

nope! just dont say they're meaningless or try to boss me around...or be on my team when you're the top tier tank and rush of to your death in the first 15 seconds because you have no clue on what an arty is yet alone been atry safe etc... :P

world of tanks is sort of at the extreame end of things though, since others can greatly effect the result of a match, for positive or worse, you can clearly see who is or isnt pulling their weight on avg. at a glance in WOT.


without counting K/D ratio does ps have something like an efficiency ratio?for heal done, hack done, repair etc..etc...?

[Brusi]

I endorse this comment...

People are mixing up competitive with professional.

[Pepsi]

because you have no clue on what an arty is...You rang? German Grille, reporting in.

I think I'll choose casually competitive.

[SKYeXile]

without counting K/D ratio does ps have something like an efficiency ratio?for heal done, hack done, repair etc..etc...?

eh K/D is meaningless anyway. the only thing that resembles a skill stat in PS slightly would be kills/bep per hack. but it weighs to much on if the player is defensive or offensive.

PS2 will have better stats though, K/D is somewhat okay, kills per hour or or points per hour should be the best ones. given a raw data feed an efficiency compilation combining multiple stats could be made provided its not weights to heavily on things like hacking empty bases...zzz

[burnoutbob]

nope! just dont say they're meaningless or try to boss me around...or be on my team when you're the top tier tank and rush of to your death in the first 15 seconds because you have no clue on what an arty is yet alone been atry safe etc... :P

world of tanks is sort of at the extreame end of things though, since others can greatly effect the result of a match, for positive or worse, you can clearly see who is or isnt pulling their weight on avg. at a glance in WOT.

i never said i would boss you around or that i was a bad player i just said it diddnt matter in ps1 because there are many other teamwork things to do that dont require killing people
like pulling ams's and drivng tanks and gals and loadestars repairing vehicles and downing gens and laying defensive CE
if all that mattered was K/D then people would just do tower battles and nobody would do any teamwork, nobody would drive tanks because only gunners get kills, nobody would do gal drops because flying the gal doesnt get you a l33t k/d ratio, nobody would pull lodestars because that is wasting time that could be spent killing

anyways again i dont know about world of tanks because i have never heard of the game but in ps1 there is many things to do to help out the team that doesnt require killing

im all about the teamwork - not padding my stats

[Meriv]

eh K/D is meaningless anyway. the only thing that resembles a skill stat in PS slightly would be kills/bep per hack. but it weighs to much on if the player is defensive or offensive.

PS2 will have better stats though, K/D is somewhat okay, kills per hour or or points per hour should be the best ones. given a raw data feed an efficiency compilation combining multiple stats could be made provided its not weights to heavily on things like hacking empty bases...zzz

thanks for the info,
I hope we will be able to see stats in real time, if necessary with a mod, since I would love to see the crashing stats of the person flying 12 ppl in a galaxy before the take off.

[SKYeXile]

i never said i would boss you around or that i was a bad player i just said it diddnt matter in ps1 because there are many other teamwork things to do that dont require killing people
like pulling ams's and drivng tanks and gals and loadestars repairing vehicles and downing gens and laying defensive CE
if all that mattered was K/D then people would just do tower battles and nobody would do any teamwork, nobody would drive tanks because only gunners get kills, nobody would do gal drops because flying the gal doesnt get you a l33t k/d ratio, nobody would pull lodestars because that is wasting time that could be spent killing

anyways again i dont know about world of tanks because i have never heard of the game but in ps1 there is many things to do to help out the team that doesnt require killing

im all about the teamwork - not padding my stats

sorry i never meant to imply you were, this is what typically people with bad stats to though in WOT, die, blame others, yell at people telling them to play better as their tank lies in smoke.

as for planetside? i dont really care if your stats are bad, unless somebody has more posts than kills and they start mouthing off, in which case i will promptly tell them to STFU and play the game. but it doesn't matter, more meat shields i say!

k/d imo as a stat should be discouraged, it promotes people playing like bitches and been defensive. ill rush into a tower and push it(after spamming a clip of thumper into it, im not stupid) sure i might run in there and only kill afew and get a 2/1 k/d for my trouble, whatever, atleast im fucking doing something, not standing around like a pussy asS bitch because of some arbitrary stat people mistake as skill. oh yea, i always fall in the top 5% of players for K/D, so its not like i have a bad k/d, i just think its a bullshit stat.

[jepaul]

Competitive to a fault. I don't play golf thus gaming is my hobby. I'll spend $100 a weekend on stupid prizes just so my outfit has something to do. I'll pay people simply to kill the same person over and over, I really have nothing better to do. I'm willing to spend RL money to win a computer game, that is pretty damn competitive.

[Koosalagoosagoo]

I will play compassionately

[burnoutbob]

k/d imo as a stat should be discouraged, it promotes people playing like bitches and been defensive. ill rush into a tower and push it(after spamming a clip of thumper into it, im not stupid) sure i might run in there and only kill afew and get a 2/1 k/d for my trouble, whatever, atleast im fucking doing something, not standing around like a pussy asS bitch because of some arbitrary stat people mistake as skill. oh yea, i always fall in the top 5% of players for K/D, so its not like i have a bad k/d, i just think its a bullshit stat.

this i 100% agree

i do similar stuff - if people are just sitting at a backdoor (when attacking) shooting in and not moving ill grab a few max's and do a suicide run through the backdoor and behind the people defending and and maybe get a few kills but more importantly i weaken their defence so others can actually run though the back door instead of just sitting there like dumb shits firing in and dieing from plasma spam etc etc

[DirtyBird]

Voted competitive because thats how I like to play.
But not all of the people I play with have the time to do that so there will be plenty of casual play as well.
Friday nights with the mini fridge topped up and a full ventrilo list is the making of many lols and good times in PS2.

Dont care much for K/D but when its there I know it drives me to become better at what I do by being aware of it.

I really liked the old style Planetside stats.
Can we even access those any more?

[SKYeXile]

Voted competitive because thats how I like to play.
But not all of the people I play with have the time to do that so there will be plenty of casual play as well.
Friday nights with the mini fridge topped up and a full ventrilo list is the making of many lols and good times in PS2.

Dont care much for K/D but when its there I know it drives me to become better at what I do by being aware of it.

I really liked the old style Planetside stats.
Can we even access those any more?

i saved the top 40 of the vs markov leaderboard? :P

[Forsaken One]

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

I have to say that its stupid that you put it in a way that stated "competitive players" (and I'm assuming you mean E-sport style.) has anything to do with or even really give a rats bum about teamwork.

Most "competitive players" would rather teamwork go out the window and that they be allowed to run around like retards doing no-scope 360 bullshit.

There is a third option that everyone always overlooks really.

Its the person who "Plays to win" but doesn't give a shit about being what people call "competitive/skilled". Honestly the only reason the competitive people can even wipe their own bums is because the GAME is PROGRAMED to ALLOW them to. Its not them being good, its the game being changed/made to make them good.

[SKYeXile]

I have to say that its stupid that you put it in a way that stated "competitive players" (and I'm assuming you mean E-sport style.) has anything to do with or even really give a rats bum about teamwork.

Most "competitive players" would rather teamwork go out the window and that they be allowed to run around like retards doing no-scope 360 bullshit.

There is a third option that everyone always overlooks really.

Its the person who "Plays to win" but doesn't give a shit about being what people call "competitive/skilled" Honestly the only reason the competitive people can even wipe their own bums is because the GAME is PROGRAMED to ALLOW them to. Its not them being good, its the game being changed/made to make them good.

I dont think you're playing with competitive players, because competitive players will spend sometimes hours before or after predicting or going over what could/might go wrong and the plan should be etc, etc, teamwork and communication is very vital competitive gaming, since most are after all team based. or maybe you are playing with them, just not under proper competitive circumstances.

though hrm, i think i get what you're saying now, doing that shit is aids, but it needs to be done.

[Forsaken One]

because competitive players will spend sometimes hours before or after predicting or going over what could/might go wrong and the plan should be etc, etc, teamwork and communication is very vital competitive gaming

When its forced yes. I didn't say they didn't use teamwork when the game demands it of them. I just said they rather reflex>everything else, including teamwork.

Edit: Also to add to the point of my "full post" casuals can use a lot of teamwork too. A lot will do anything, including jump into a Gal to fill it then ride to a attack point and add their firepower.

[Zulthus]

I have to say that its stupid that you put it in a way that stated "competitive players" (and I'm assuming you mean E-sport style.) has anything to do with or even really give a rats bum about teamwork.

Most "competitive players" would rather teamwork go out the window and that they be allowed to run around like retards doing no-scope 360 bullshit.

There is a third option that everyone always overlooks really.

Its the person who "Plays to win" but doesn't give a shit about being what people call "competitive/skilled". Honestly the only reason the competitive people can even wipe their own bums is because the GAME is PROGRAMED to ALLOW them to. Its not them being good, its the game being changed/made to make them good.

I didn't mean to make it sound like casuals don't care about teamplay, I was just exaggerating the option.

[LightningDriver]

I've been playing planetside casually for 8 years, that isn't going to change anytime soon.

[Forsaken One]

I didn't mean to make it sound like casuals don't care about teamplay, I was just exaggerating the option.

Always remember that non competitive player you randomly meet that sacrificed himself in some way to save you.

That guy who ran out to piss off the tank so you could get away.

That guy who rammed his Gal into the enemy so that it couldn't destroy your vehicle so you wouldn't lose resources.

That random pubber who died to save you and would give his left virtual nut to make sure you lived.

Just because you can't see him, he has no fame, and he couldn't give a rats behind about being competitive, doesn't mean hes not there, always by your side when you need him.

[captainkapautz]

Always remember that non competitive player you randomly meet that sacrificed himself in some way to save you.

That guy who ran out to piss off the tank so you could get away.

That guy who rammed his Gal into the enemy so that it couldn't destroy your vehicle so you wouldn't lose resources.

That random pubber who died to save you and would give his left virtual nut to make sure you lived.

Just because you can't see him, he has no fame, and he couldn't give a rats behind about being competitive, doesn't mean hes not there, always by your side when you need him.

NEVER FORGET!

[Vetto]

Probably Light Competitively.

[exLupo]

I will be a casual (read: irregular) player who cares about teamwork and getting the job done. Just because someone doesn't play all the time doesn't mean they don't value excellence.

I care about what I'm doing and get annoyed when those around me don't. It's just.. my poopsocking days are over.

[Mechzz]

This thread, apart from the dip in the middle, has been comedy gold. For the late joiners, here are some highlights:

I chose other since there was no option for Commando.

Zolan, the question was about how you will play the game, not what you will be wearing when you play it.

What the...

You can't redefine a word to your liking. That would be insanity.

Aurmanite, you haven't spent much time here yet, have you?

Well seeing as I have 16 corporate sponsors I'll be playing competitively.

Landtank, just because the NC's shadowy bosses said they were "sponsoring" you to fight on Auraxis, doesn't mean your Vanny, Jackhammer and other recycled trash will be "competitive"

(jk btw, for clarity)

[Dart]

Voted competitive because thats how I like to play.
But not all of the people I play with have the time to do that so there will be plenty of casual play as well.
Friday nights with the mini fridge topped up and a full ventrilo list is the making of many lols and good times in PS2.

Dont care much for K/D but when its there I know it drives me to become better at what I do by being aware of it.

I really liked the old style Planetside stats.
Can we even access those any more?

I disagree K/D makes you a better player. K/Time is a far better indicator. Say there are two players; one is 25/1 over three hours the other is 150/60 over the same time frame. Which is helping his Empire more? That is why ever competitive player i know focuses on K/T rather than K/D. Of course the less you die the more time you have to kill but when exile says 2/1 or 3/1 is sufficient he is right. That's why, as any Outfit, we'd usually go to fights where we'd be outnumbered, because it meant we could tie up 3 or 4 times our numbers and of enemies which would usually lead to the rest of or Empire being successful elsewhere on the map.

Oh and rev (the webmaster of Planetsidestats.net) actually let me have a poke around the old site the other day, which was pretty fun.

[lawnmower]

But 80/0 killcount for my BF3 chopper gunner on a normal server with normal tickets in what you call a "casual" game session speaks for itself, doesn't it? ;)
indeed, you hit it right on the nail for the worlds most casual game mechanic

[lawnmower]

One of the main problems we're dealing with here is your perception of yourself. You think that because you are great at playing a game you are some sort of authority on it. You aren't. There are world champions that probably can't name 1/2 of the techniques they use.

Hardcore gaming has always been about the amount of time invested. You can't be hardcore if you don't have what most people would consider an excessive amount of time to play. Hardcore players have this time so they naturally learn/master/complete games faster. Once this happens, it becomes more about using that mastery/max level/shit in a competitive way.

I ain't saying that hardcore players are the best at the game, because there are plenty of hardcore players that are bad. If you read anything other than rage comics and lolmarkovforums, you'd have a deeper understanding of this truth.

Here's a little example that may, or may not open your eyes to what the hell you're trying to agrue against but are looking like an idiot doing so.

I had several friends in WoW that almost never raided or PvP'd, but still spent 6+hours every day 7 days a week playing the game...for 5 years. They basically ran the auction houses on a couple of servers back in the day. They were slightly infamous and when people like you would inspect their gear they would have to deal with the same tripe I'm dealing with now. These guys would handle it by opening a trade with the morons and put up 50 squillion gold.

These dudes made hundreds of real dollars, but by your shitty definition they wouldn't be considered hardcore because they weren't using their ubarskillz to pwn noobs.

TLDR; You're such an average 'leet' or '1337' gamer. Good skills (supposedly), shit brains.
so wheres your unfaultering proof that youre definition is the correct one

[Pella]

omg tards, Hardcore is how you spend your time playing its requires some dedication, yes because you need knowledge and you don't get that by playing for 5 minutes every day, you need to put sometime into the game or be actively reading up on the game.

There are some people who play games for 18 hours a day, they spend their time prancing around doing daily quests, slowy grinding up their mounts or in the case of planetside, sit around in sanc and take screenshots of their zerg outfit in formation. These players arnt hardcore, dispite their playtime.

Hardcore is playing with a purpose and spending your time wisely, I only play PS for about 4-6 hours per night, in that time, i dont stop, i would read some stuff during the day on breaks to confirm I'm running the right loadouts so when i play there is no messing around, there is just killing.

You casuals dont understand the hardcore mindset and never will or perhaps you are more hardcore than you think, you are after all on a pre release game forum, there is nothing casual about that.


But please explain to me how your hardcore? The above just assumes you play long hours and rack up some kills.

Every post you make indicates how good you are or how Hardcore your outfit is at FPS. Yet the Audience here are awaiting to see some sort of evidence.

Your a few streets short of professional players my friend. Your mind set is all wrong.

People play the game how they want. And not dictated by how you think they should.

As for me, and im sure all out the outfit we will be playing Competitively small scale. And hopefully contend for the e-sports which im sure SOE will bring.

[lawnmower]

I disagree K/D makes you a better player. K/Time is a far better indicator. Say there are two players; one is 25/1 over three hours the other is 150/60 over the same time frame. Which is helping his Empire more?
helping his empire? I thought the question was who was the better player

[SKYeXile]

But please explain to me how your hardcore? The above just assumes you play long hours and rack up some kills.

Every post you make indicates how good you are or how Hardcore your outfit is at FPS. Yet the Audience here are awaiting to see some sort of evidence.

Your a few streets short of professional players my friend. Your mind set is all wrong.

People play the game how they want. And not dictated by how you think they should.

As for me, and im sure all out the outfit we will be playing Competitively small scale. And hopefully contend for the e-sports which im sure SOE will bring.

Ah your back, with no new material though.

Irony is awesome, by replying to my every post you also do nothing but talk up yourself and your clan. Difference is, we actually have a reputable and flawless history in Planetside and competitive PvP in it, on the other hand you have nothing.

Do feel free to come over to my server and show me who's boss though.

[Magpie]

I play to get away from my girlfriend who I live with:lol::lol::lol: love her really tho

[Dart]

helping his empire? I thought the question was who was the better player

That question is a no-brainer! Anyone can go 25 for one in three hours. Probably less than 5% of PS could go 150/three hours. I thought that was fairly self explanatory.

[SKYeXile]

That question is a no-brainer! Anyone can go 25 for one in three hours. Probably less than 5% of PS could go 150/three hours. I thought that was fairly self explanatory.

would have been awesome if planetside recorded playtime, id love to know what people like warning drunk pilot's was.

[Pella]

Ah your back, with no new material though.

Irony is awesome, by replying to my every post you also do nothing but talk up yourself and your clan. Difference is, we actually have a reputable and flawless history in Planetside and competitive PvP in it, on the other hand you have nothing.

Sorry i was reading the thread and seen your ego post and had to reply and pull you down a peg.

And again i don't see this reputation you keep going on about. Obviously your just trying to boost your E-Peen on the interweb.

Little tip for you. Get some substance then make a post. I'm not here to big myself up or my clan or even make it a competition. I don't need to, People know who we are and the members that are part of it. Unleashed is fairly new within planetside, With most people joining from other outfits on werner like Soul reapers ect. Just look at our members list i'm sure you will know most of the PS players.

[EVILoHOMER]

I just play alone most the time and with friends when they decide to drop in. I like to have fun and grief people mainly, gonna be the worst PUG Gal Pilot EVER! :D

"what are all these mines on the floor?" BOOM!

[Pella]

People who are bad at killing like to pretend it's a meaningless stat because it makes what they do themselves look more important by comparison.

It's always the same. Arathi Basin chat:
1 (has 20 kills 1 death): You people need to start killing more, we're losing this game.
2 (has 1 kill 10 deaths): This game isn't about killing, it's about holding nodes.
1: Well how do you suppose you capture and hold nodes when you are constantly dead?
2: lol stfu sckrub wif ur 2476 raitng mele cleef team

Your avatar scares me.

[SKYeXile]

Sorry i was reading the thread and seen your ego post and had to reply and pull you down a peg.

And again i don't see this reputation you keep going on about. Obviously your just trying to boost your E-Peen on the interweb.

Little tip for you. Get some substance then make a post. I'm not here to big myself up or my clan or even make it a competition. I don't need to, People know who we are and the members that are part of it. Unleashed is fairly new within planetside, With most people joining from other outfits on werner like Soul reapers ect. Just look at our members list i'm sure you will know most of the PS players.

Take me down a peg? if it were Elcyco, Prophet or thechain etc, attempting it, there might be cause for concern. But im laughing right now, out loud.

[RSphil]

I work alot but when I am on I play to win and want to work as a team as much as possible.

The rebellion will overcome :p

[xSquirtle]

for what time I have, competitive all the way.

[diLLa]

I always play with a competitive mindset, even if something isn't a competitive game.

I like winning. And to win you need to be good. And to be good you need to improve constantly, so that's what I'm mostly focussing on.

I can't just play a game for several hours a week and just fool around during that time, I'll bore out really quickly then.

[Baneblade]

If I go a full minute without a kill, I check my internet connection to make sure I wasn't stealth booted...



lol, PS1 Old School ftw.

[Meriv]

I am a casual player

I never cared for stats, always been a casual, but be carefull higher the teamwork is required higher the stats will be representative of player behavior, even in the case of the required suicide run.

I just hope that teamwork won't be a as decisive as in WoT, I like lone wolfing (and sometimes team play too) and I hope I can get some achievmient(being capable to lone cap a facility if my hex battle is 10vs10 or around that numbers) alone and not having to rage because. 12 over 15 players are going one side and you try to defend in a light tank against 12 with just other 3players.

Edit: Wasn't refering to team as outfit, but as the faction players you will find in your hex.

[Dart]

I am a casual player

I never cared for stats, always been a casual, but be carefull higher the teamwork is required higher the stats will be representative of player behavior, even in the case of the required suicide run.

I just hope that teamwork won't be a as decisive as in WoT, I like lone wolfing (and sometimes team play too) and I hope I can get some achievmient(being capable to lone cap a facility if my hex battle is 10vs10 or around that numbers) alone and not having to rage because. 12 over 15 players are going one side and you try to defend in a light tank against 12 with just other 3players.

This is either one of the most ill-thought-out posts on this forum or one of the most poorly worded. You hope teamwork isn't decisive in PlanetSide 2 because you "like lone wolfing"? You do realise this is an MMOFPS right? If you choose to do "lone wolfing" that's your call, but if I come with my 5 Outfit-mates you'd better expect you're going to get wiped.

You're the kind of player that concerns me regarding beta feedback, please go and play Solitaire until release.

[Meriv]

This is either one of the most ill-thought-out posts on this forum or one of the most poorly worded. You hope teamwork isn't decisive in PlanetSide 2 because you "like lone wolfing"? You do realise this is an MMOFPS right? If you choose to do "lone wolfing" that's your call, but if I come with my 5 Outfit-mates you'd better expect you're going to get wiped.

sorry for the grammar, I am not using a keyboard.

I was refering to faction players, not team, because my time schedule is quite unpredictable soo I can't organize myself with an outfit. What I wanted to say is that even if I don't have an outfit I want to be able to do something usefull and competitive more than just killing, and not being penalized too much by my faction that is lemming.

[Dart]

sorry for the grammar, I am not using a keyboard.

I was refering to faction players, not team, because my time schedule is quite unpredictable soo I can't organize myself with an outfit. What I wanted to say is that even if I don't have an outfit I want to be able to do something usefull and competitive more than just killing, and not being penalized too much by my faction that is lemming.

I'm afraid to say that the days of 'solo ghost hacking' are probably at an end. Well you can still ghost in PS1 for a while but as far as PS2 is concerned the rotund female has started her warm-up. Why? Partly because of the game mechanics; bases behind enemy lines take longer to cap and are faster to resecure and partly because of the (anticipated) scale of PS2; there will be 600 slots per Continent and we have to expect those to be pretty full. As such it is HIGHLY unlikely one person will be able to move the map on their own any more. In fact I'd imagine groups of less than 20 may struggle significantly too....

I'm not sure whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but it is almost definitely a thing.

[Meriv]

I'm afraid to say that the days of 'solo ghost hacking' are probably at an end. Well you can still ghost in PS1 for a while but as far as PS2 is concerned the rotund female has started her warm-up. Why? Partly because of the game mechanics; bases behind enemy lines take longer to cap and are faster to resecure and partly because of the (anticipated) scale of PS2; there will be 600 slots per Continent and we have to expect those to be pretty full. As such it is HIGHLY unlikely one person will be able to move the map on their own any more. In fact I'd imagine groups of less than 20 may struggle significantly too....

I'm not sure whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but it is almost definitely a thing.

I understand the mechanics, i'm just worried that my gameplay will be greatly influenced by not being able to be in a outfit(time schedule reason), and having my gameplay influenced by the casual(not a bad thing but the gauss curve tells me that for a tot. occasion i will find myself with bad players/or myself playing bad and i don't want to disrupt my factionmate gameplay)

Edit: just in case to not being taken as a 100% lone wolf, in the 95% of the games i play or that i have played i almost always choose a support class/hybrid class and never pure dps(if we can use this term).

[Dart]

I understand the mechanics, i'm just worried that my gameplay will be greatly influenced by not being able to be in a outfit(time schedule reason), and having my gameplay influenced by the casual(not a bad thing but the gauss curve tells me that for a tot. occasion i will find myself with bad players/or myself playing bad and i don't want to disrupt my factionmate gameplay)

I know you're not typing on a keyboard but are you composing these posts on an Etch-A-Sketch?! I'm not saying that solo players won't be able to do ANYTHING; vehicular combat particularly seems to be tilted more towards the individual than the last game was. However until we see some more 'support' tasks for players to perform (I'm hoping they exist) your role as a solo player looks to be more as a killer or troop transport driver/pilot than anything.

[SKYeXile]

I understand the mechanics, i'm just worried that my gameplay will be greatly influenced by not being able to be in a outfit(time schedule reason), and having my gameplay influenced by the casual(not a bad thing but the gauss curve tells me that for a tot. occasion i will find myself with bad players/or myself playing bad and i don't want to disrupt my factionmate gameplay)

Edit: just in case to not being taken as a 100% lone wolf, in the 95% of the games i play or that i have played i almost always choose a support class/hybrid class and never pure dps(if we can use this term).

i still expect there to be plenty of stuff you can do in PS2 as a support player, from driving gals, laying mind fields or yea, as dart said, just solo it up in a vehicle...*shifty eyes* this isnt an MMORPG, a solo player can accomplish things, while i doubt you would takedown 5 of Darts particular people solo it was certainly possible to kill 6 or so people solo in Planetside 1 and with the lower ttk in planetside 2, it should be even easier.

Also its easy to run with the zerg in Planetsides, while in MMRPG,s you need to be in group to get heals and buffs, its not the case in this, just roll around in the blob, who cares.

[Dart]

it was certainly possible to kill 6 or so people solo in Planetside 1 and with the lower ttk in planetside 2, it should be even easier.

That is the great debate isn't it? Will the reduce ttk make it harder or easier to kill multiple enemies at once. I don't mean one after the other, of course then the reduced ttk will make it easier. I mean 3 or 4 v 1. We can't even come to a consensus in our clan, let alone as a community but it's an interesting question. One the one side you can kill people faster so, assuming you have good aim, it should be easier right? However on the flip side, assuming you're fighting against less-accurate players, they only need to get 'lucky' a couple of times and you're dead. I tend to think it'll make it more difficult however as I said, I know plenty who feel the opposite is true.

[CTheRain]

Glitch my ass to the leaderboards and just mess around until they fix the basic stuff. Then after I get back from Basic training I'll start playing competitively within my outfit.

[Senyu]

Sitting on a mountain, looking for something that moves, and sniping its head off..........alllllllll day

[SKYeXile]

That is the great debate isn't it? Will the reduce ttk make it harder or easier to kill multiple enemies at once. I don't mean one after the other, of course then the reduced ttk will make it easier. I mean 3 or 4 v 1. We can't even come to a consensus in our clan, let alone as a community but it's an interesting question. One the one side you can kill people faster so, assuming you have good aim, it should be easier right? However on the flip side, assuming you're fighting against less-accurate players, they only need to get 'lucky' a couple of times and you're dead. I tend to think it'll make it more difficult however as I said, I know plenty who feel the opposite is true.

well this is why i said should, like i do in most posts, i leave things open to change and the unknown. certainly longer TTK's and more HP etc, makes it harder to take on multiple people, for sure. im talking like WOT 30 seconds to kill something here BTW, theres simply no way i can take on 5 people at once with them all shooting at me(of the same tier..), even taking them one by one, yea it can be done, but if they have even the slightest bit of brains they will simply overwhelm you because you cant kill them fast enough.

Saying that though, i think it depends on the situation, some you might be better off some you might be worse. planetside 2 looks to have a kinda high TTK for a tactical shooter, this means it requires several well placed shots to kill somebody. if you were to fight these players so they came came in the door 2 second after one another, if would favor a faster TTK, you could kill each on individually and work them down and essentially fight them all 1v1, up the TTK though and those guys stream in at the same rate, you get overwhelmed, you cant kill them fast enough.

In a situation when you're fighting vs 5 people at once, if you COMPLETELY had the jump on them you could waste them all in quick spray if you were playing hardcore mode or something. if they saw you though, while you might be able to kill one, all they need is one of the 5 dudes to hit you once and you're fucked. but yea with a lower TTK it favours who gets the jump on who and i dont think thats the best design for a game thats about defending and holding land. but yea, in this situation i would prefer a planetside or brink TTK, where they require several shots to take me down and iv got HA and are pumping them with every shot, while they cant even see me because they're blinded by tears induced by my ADADADA mashing...ANYWAY.

So in summery, i think it depends on the situation. :P been a lasher user though, i typically found i was overwhelmed alot, you know, WHEN IM FUCKING RELOADING AFTER 2 KILLS. id never try to takeon 5 people at once unless i had them in a corridor with a lasher or i had a MCG/JH.

[Obiyer]

I want to make friends, that's my main goal PS2. I mean, I want to play well, but you know, that depends on my opponents. I could lose an arm tommorow and never play another FPS game again. In PS1 after playing a long time I get that icky feeling like I've wasted my time. I never got that while playing WoW in a guild where I was making things for guild mates, I actually felt really bad when I left. I should've stayed in the Guild.

I want to play PS2 less selfishly, where it's not always about me, and how good I am and how well I'm doing. I want my time spent playing in PS2 to matter, competitively or casual, I don't know. Whichever, I want to stick with playing PS2 over a long time and develop lasting relationships with people, as I tend to leave games after about a month or two. So that's how I plan to play PS2.

[Flaropri]

I want to play casually and get stuff done at the same time. I've very curious to see how the community mete-game will develop, including what gets carried over from PS1. In essence, I want to see how various outfits decide to function with and against each other, and how they'll decide on targets within their faction on a given continent etc. However I don't know that I'll put too much effort to get involved in it beyond doing what seems most entertaining at a given time in-game.

[Neksar]

I have a nasty habit of playing games casually and getting frustrated when the people who don't keep refusing to use nothing but the most optimized loadouts. I'm hoping PS2 will alleviate that problem with all of its pratter of 'sidegrades' and I can just find something that works for me and is fun. Games like Battlefield 3 and Dark Souls discourage finding stuff that's fun or an interesting concept in favor of optimization, and I think that is a bad thing. Why give players all of that customization if it just turns into a glorified scavenger hunt for what makes everything else obselete?

[maddoggg]

Competitive all the way :D
Although i never understood the hole playing for stats thing...
I kinda miss the old times when people played a game for fun,not for boosting a stat like K/D for example.

I am curies to see how competitive play would work in planetside 2.
It deffinetly wont be like esports or tournament ladders like i am use to,but i am guessing it would be pretty fun to have clan versus clan battles :)

[Meriv]

I have a nasty habit of playing games casually and getting frustrated when the people who don't keep refusing to use nothing but the most optimized loadouts. I'm hoping PS2 will alleviate that problem with all of its pratter of 'sidegrades' and I can just find something that works for me and is fun. Games like Battlefield 3 and Dark Souls discourage finding stuff that's fun or an interesting concept in favor of optimization, and I think that is a bad thing. Why give players all of that customization if it just turns into a glorified scavenger hunt for what makes everything else obselete?

Idk how it works in PS2 but normally you discourage that with the simple triangle of A beats B, B beats C , C beats A. That i think in PS2 will work quite well (i hope)

[Danelo]

A casual player for me is a player who doesn't adapt to the game competitively, someone who plays for himself and doesn't benefit the team at all. A reason why I stopped playing battlefield 3 is because the game was overrun by casual players.

A hardcore player likes to take the game seriously and enjoy other aspects of a game rather than just a good score.

[captainkapautz]

I don't need to, People know who we are and the members that are part of it.

So you try to take him down a peg by writing the same "WE GOTZ E-REP MAN! DUN FUCK WIT US!"-crap?

I...I don't think that's gonna help.

And for what it's worth I, personally, haven't heard of you guys, even though I have a pretty broad spectrum of games I play.

[jepaul]

I'm willing to pay my guys for wins. Is that competitive or casual! People play golf casually but they still spend money on it so it is a conundrum I guess.

[Meriv]

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[IMMentat]

not enough options, there are those who can only play for a few hours but will be focussed and competitive during that time, there are those who will play long hours and be chilled.

there's those who will do a mix of both.

personally i'm hoping to be organised when in outfit squads, chilled outside but won't have many hours to play per-day.

[RandomNPC]

helping his empire? I thought the question was who was the better player

Same thing. A player that has a large K: D ratio is not necessarily a good player in Planetside. This isn't COD, objectives are more important than stat padding. Sort of the same idea as in Battlefield games, your team could have 10x the kills and still lose by a landslide.

[Rago]

Basically Competitie, but i votet for Other, because there are Days i like to be a Explorer

[IgloGlass]

I've got so many classes in school and I have to set aside time for both going to the gym and spending time with the gf so I simply won't be able to play competitively even if I want to, however casually I might play I'll always try to play seriously I guess :shrug:

[Serotriptomine]

I don't care about stats, but I WILL be getting shit done.
Also, when I feel too tense, I'll lean back and relax. :)

[Dreamcast]

Wutever I feel like.


If Im ok with an airplane, Im not gonna not play because Im ok and Im a better sniper for example.



I wanna have fun and If I wanna do something I suck at then I am do it.


If I want to get a lot of kills then I will do what I am best at.

[GuyFawkes]

A Casual War? :rolleyes:

[Alderego]

being a student makes it a bit of a juggle between time for studies, gf and gaming: so time-wise = casual, but when online I'll be serious about the damage I cause.

Guess that classifies as other?

[ConsPark]

Both.

[cryosin]

Definitely competitive, but I could see myself just flying around the world and sight seeing.

[jepaul]

Are you more of a competitive player, caring more about stats/teamwork and getting shit done, or a casual, more laid-back and just enjoying the game once in a while?

I'm gonna throw in an 'other' option too, because I think I made that sound biased.

Well it looks like we will be in a competitive game so I'm going to play competive. Maybe all the other people can have their own server.

[jepaul]

Still playing competitive