HA Weapons

[dyslecix]

With closed beta coming soon, within a few weeks. When do you think the HA weapons will be added. We've already seen an MCG from a twitpic a LONG time ago. So do you guys thing they'll be in by the time Closed Beta comes out?

[SUBARU]

SOON

[Landtank]

Yeah definitely, the NC really stands no chance without a mildly overpowered Jackhammer so Higby wouldn't let the Beta start without it :P

I am curious to see how they look though, very excited to see the Lasher in action.

[Mechzz]

Yeah definitely, the NC really stands no chance without a mildly overpowered Jackhammer so Higby wouldn't let the Beta start without it :P

I am curious to see how they look though, very excited to see the Lasher in action.

The Lasher. Disco balls of doom (hopefully!). But which lasher shall it be?

[SpcFarlen]

I just want that gatling gun...

[kaffis]

I am curious to see how they look though, very excited to see the Lasher in action.
Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

[Johari]

I think it was from the Weapons podcast that TRay said that they're doing a major rethinking of how the Lasher works. I think something was said about no more disco balls but somthing else entirely. Does this ring a bell for anyone else?

[Furber]

Last I heard they're all going to be under-slung 'chain guns' of some sort (Lasher probably still shoots energy balls). That was a long time ago so things may have changed, guess we'll find out in beta.

[captainkapautz]

I think it was from the Weapons podcast that TRay said that they're doing a major rethinking of how the Lasher works. I think something was said about no more disco balls but somthing else entirely. Does this ring a bell for anyone else?

Gotta admit some kind of arc/chain lightning gun would be baller, would also fit the "Lasher" name.

...

Holy shit, what the fuck am I doing?

Why am I proposing a cool as fuck HA gun for the hated barneys?!

[kaffis]

Last I heard they're all going to be under-slung 'chain guns' of some sort (Lasher probably still shoots energy balls). That was a long time ago so things may have changed, guess we'll find out in beta.
Chain-gun energy balls! Makes wub-wub Lasher make even more sense.. each wub is an energy ball whizzing by!

This totally needs to happen.

It'll be awesome killing all the Vanu HA who are too busy dancing to fight.

[Bags]

No way will the lasher shoot orbs, it will be "too confusing" for their new target market.

[kaffis]

Hey, now, Bags.. surely we can let the seething masses arrive before we start ridiculing them.. you know, for things they've actually done, right?

[Dairian]

I am excited to have an MCG in my hands. But I think they will not add the HA till later in beta. This will force everyone to use the lighter weapons so they can be tested. When SOE has them balanced they will add HA to the mix. But this is just what I foresee. Could be wrong...

[Bags]

Hey, now, Bags.. surely we can let the seething masses arrive before we start ridiculing them.. you know, for things they've actually done, right?

I'm going by the dev team's logic. Anything that a normal shooter fan hasn't seen confuses them, apparently.

[MrMorton]

Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

best.....idea..................ever

[captainkapautz]

Could be wrong...

It is, because I somehow doubt that EVERYONE will only play HA.

[Bags]

I am excited to have an MCG in my hands. But I think they will not add the HA till later in beta. This will force everyone to use the lighter weapons so they can be tested. When SOE has them balanced they will add HA to the mix. But this is just what I foresee. Could be wrong...

How cna you balance a game with HA weapons in it before putting in the HA weapons?

[captainkapautz]

How cna you balance a game with HA weapons in it before putting in the HA weapons?

MAGIC!

[Dairian]

we can only wait.

[kaffis]

MAGIC!
Hey, if the Forgelight coders are wizards, I have full faith that the developers might be, too. Amirite?

[Ironside]

i want disco balls, it's my vanu right

[QuantumMechanic]

Nonstandard weapon projecticles confuse me.

(not)

[Littleman]

I wouldn't be surprised if the HA isn't in game when beta opens. They could still be balancing them behind the scenes, and figuring out whom all they want to wield besides the Heavy Assault guys.

For my part, I hope only the HA guys get to wield HA. I'd like my battles to involve mostly rifles and the use of cover within 75m for a change.

[captainkapautz]

Hey, if the Forgelight coders are wizards, I have full faith that the developers might be, too. Amirite?

tru dat

[SixShooter]

Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

This + coats everything it touches in glitter:lol:

[QuantumMechanic]

My biggest concern regarding HA weapons is wheather or not the HA class will be able to have two "heavy" weapons in his loadout at the same time or not.

If HA class is restricted to just one main weapon (as I believe the other classes are) then it seems to me he is significantly gimped. Speculating of course.

[Purple]

SOON

liar! i believe Higby upgraded it to Very soon.

[Bags]

My biggest concern regarding HA weapons is wheather or not the HA class will be able to have two "heavy" weapons in his loadout at the same time or not.

If HA class is restricted to just one main weapon (as I believe the other classes are) then it seems to me he is significantly gimped. Speculating of course.

As of now you can have an LMG / AV or an LMG / HA.

[Trafalgar]

How [can] you balance a game with HA weapons in it before putting in the HA weapons?

MAGIC!

A wizard spreadsheeted it!

[Xaine]

Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

I think I'm in love.

[qbert2]

I don't want another HA shotgun. :(

[Bags]

I don't want another HA shotgun. :(

Yes, we need a million boring assault rifles. :D

[qbert2]

It's because the use of a shotgun is so situational. The MCG is useful in many more places than the jackhammer. So is the lasher but less so. The jackhammer is useful indoors when they are less than 5m from you and that's about it. That's boring and a waste imho.

[Notser]

Jackhammer will be changed in my opinion, probably take away the 3 shot burst and change it to some type of tighter shotgun like the NC MAX unit could do in PS1

[Bags]

It's because the use of a shotgun is so situational. The MCG is useful in many more places than the jackhammer. So is the lasher but less so. The jackhammer is useful indoors when they are less than 5m from you and that's about it. That's boring and a waste imho.

Yeah but the gauss was better outdoors and indoors than the cycler, and all the important fighting happened indoors. I don't want every faction's HA to end up an Assault rifle.

[GreatMazinkaise]

Well, since you've got an LMG in your other slot by default, it probably doesn't matter if HA is situational.

[qbert2]

A lot of the important fighting isn't going to be indoors anymore though so I would really not like to see a faction specific HA shotgun for the NC.

I wouldn't mind seeing an automatic 50cal railgun with say 100-200rpm gun for HA. Keeps with the hard hitting slow rof mindset.

[Bags]

A lot of the important fighting isn't going to be indoors anymore though so I would really not like to see a faction specific HA shotgun for the NC.

I wouldn't mind seeing an automatic 50cal railgun with say 100-200rpm gun for HA. Keeps with the hard hitting slow rof mindset.

But your LMG is for outdoor combat =/

[captainkapautz]

automatic 50cal railgun

LOL WUT

Either high caliber OR railgun, never go full retard.

[qbert2]

But your LMG is for outdoor combat =/

The TR will have two outdoor HAs in the LMG cycler and the MCG.

[qbert2]

LOL WUT

Either high caliber OR railgun, never go full retard.

Railgun defines the mechanism for how the projectile is propelled. It doesn't have anything to do with the caliber of the projectile.

[Sirisian]

Yeah I'm thinking we're going to see a complete revamp. The balance between the different factions was way too situational. I don't think new players will be as forgiving as we were about such weapon imbalance.

Really hoping/expecting all factions to have a chaingun variant.

[captainkapautz]

Railgun defines the mechanism for how the projectile is propelled. It doesn't have anything to do with the caliber of the projectile.

I know, manportable .50 cal railgun is still full retard, even if it's half past the future.

[kaffis]

I don't want another HA shotgun. :(
Fortunately, you won't have another HA shotgun. You'll have entire squads of HA shotguns, right TR/VS Jackhammer whiners? :groovy:

[GreatMazinkaise]

Fortunately, you won't have another HA shotgun. You'll have entire squads of HA shotguns, right TR/VS Jackhammer whiners? :groovy:

QFT... as much as I hate being blasted by it, I'd miss the old "ka-chuk, ka-chuk, ka-chuk". Jackhammers are iconic and mandatory inclusions in PS2.

[Meriv]

Fortunately, you won't have another HA shotgun. You'll have entire squads of HA shotguns, right TR/VS Jackhammer whiners? :groovy:

You forgot to mention also an invisible shoutgun pointing at you(infiltrators gets them combine that with a cloack approach) ..... the first thing i am going to cert as medic is no heal, no vehicle, no weapon, i am going straight to the termal vision.

[GreatMazinkaise]

You forgot to mention also an invisible shoutgun pointing at you(infiltrators gets them combine that with a cloack approach) ..... the first thing i am going to cert as medic is no heal, no vehicle, no weapon, i am going straight to the termal vision.

We're used to that though (NC Cloakers had a choice of a shotgun PISTOL or a machine pistol that killed you about as quick).

[kaffis]

The TR will have two outdoor HAs in the LMG cycler and the MCG.
Except, I think you'll find that the MCG doesn't have the same effective ranges as before. It'll be shortened, because HA will have the LMG. Likewise, the Lasher.

Really hoping/expecting all factions to have a chaingun variant.
Jackhammer becomes chainshotgun? :rofl:

[Meriv]

We're used to that though (NC Cloakers had a choice of a shotgun PISTOL or a machine pistol that killed you about as quick).

sweet- how did you dealt with them?

[MrKWalmsley]

If that weapon is anything to go by, hopefully never.

[kaffis]

sweet- how did you dealt with them?
Darklight and/or Audio Amplifier implants.

[Sirisian]

I was thinking about this when I made my post. We could always go into speculation mode now that we have all the leaked content? Note that following text is just from one huge file so it lacks any context.

Text talking about the Lasher and variant

Lasher VSH1
The experimental Lasher VSH1 rapid fires powerful hypercompressed projectiles that expand and explode on contact, melting nearby enemies.
Triton VSH3
The Triton was developed as a point defense variant of the Lasher, featuring a higher rate of fire than the original.

Text mentioning an "MCG":


T7 Mini-Chaingun
The sound of the menacing T7 MCG firing strikes fear into the heart of its enemies. It is capable of sustained fire that can tear apart entire squads.
MCG-2 Nailstorm
The remarkable engineering of the powerful MCG-2 Nailstorm has caused it to be referred to as "the TR's mobile turret."



Jackhammer:

NC5 Jackhammer
The legendary NC5 Jackhammer heavy shotgun's stopping power and sustained fire capabilities make it a frightening weapon in close quarters combat.
LA2 Rampart
Liberty Arsenal's hefty LA2 Rampart is their take on the basic Jackhammer design. Re-envisioned to be better suited for point defense, the Rampart can lock down high priority locations with ease.

:lol: Rampart

[captainkapautz]

"Behemoth"[...]lightweight

wat?

[Sirisian]

wat?
Usually monstrous means large in size. It has no connotation toward the weight of the object.

If you view the file a lot of the text is simply filler text it seems like. (It's a massive file). It's possible someone just typed this stuff in quickly to get a general idea into the game. Could also be referring to a different MCG in the game.

[Kriegson]

I was thinking about this when I made my post. We could always go into speculation mode now that we have all the leaked content? Note that following text is just from one huge file so it lacks any context.


Well, one thing to take away from this is how there are variants of the HA's with some different effects...at least for the lasher they describe "A higher rate of fire" for one variant.

It sounds like there could be 3 variants of the MCG, but doesn't explain them very much. And nothing at all about the jackhammer....but I like the idea of HA variants.

[captainkapautz]

Usually monstrous means large in size. It has no connotation toward the weight of the object.

I dunno, where I come from huge, monstrous and enormous usually go hand in hand with "fucking heavy".

[Sirisian]

Wait nvm. The Behemoth is a different gun. Updated the details. This is confusing trying to match up random statements in a file with their weapons. Might not be related to the TR MCG. It has a different label. "LRC"
LRC5 Behemoth
The Light Rotary Cannon "Behemoth" utilizes lightweight alloys to allow for a more maneuverable MCG.

[captainkapautz]

Wait nvm. The Behemoth is a different gun. Updated the details. This is confusing trying to match up random statements in a file with their weapons. Might not be related to the TR MCG. It has a different label. "LRC"

Well "Light Rotary Cannon" is just a fancy way of saying "Mini Chain Gun".

P.S.: Just switch LRC5 "Behemoth with MCG-2 "Nailstorm" and it'd make sense, description and name wise.

[wraithverge]

shotguns still fine, just need solid slugs not buckshot for outdoors. Triple shot of a weapon that can one hit destroy shields? yeah I'm down.

[Blackwolf]

This + coats everything it touches in glitter:lol:

The glitter can stand out in daylight too...

What's with the torches and pitchforks?

[SKYeXile]

We require vortex whip you bitches.

[RNFB]

Is there anything hinting about the Lancer in those leaked files?

[Sirisian]

Is there anything hinting about the Lancer in those leaked files?
Yeah:

PS1 Lancer (Test Weapon)
Lancer V2
Lancer VS22 Anti-Materiel Plasma Rifle
Lancer VS22 Extra Ammo
The Lancer VS22 is capable of punching through enemy armor with frightening speed, giving it the reputation as one of the Vanu Sovereignty's most lethal weapons.

[Mr DeCastellac]

Yes, we need a million boring assault rifles. :D

For choosing the non-laser faction, you deserve boring weapons.

[Bags]

For choosing the non-laser faction, you deserve boring weapons.

I'm not seeing much in the form of lasers. Maybe laser dots?

[Sabot]

For choosing the non-laser faction, you deserve boring weapons.

This.

[Bags]

This.

Did you guys watch E3? There are no lasers... lol. Honestly, the NC tracers look pretier than the VS lasers.

[Mr DeCastellac]

I'm not seeing much in the form of lasers. Maybe laser dots?

There are probably more screens, but here are a few.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/427070_10150652052558604_443073358_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/425970_10150652052663604_1321854917_n.jpg

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/69204_10150894288858604_195539102_n.jpg

[Sabot]

Did you guys watch E3? There are no lasers... lol. Honestly, the NC tracers look pretier than the VS lasers.

Yeah, I don't mind if my ammunition doesn't look pretty.... you're meant to die from them, not go; "awwwwh... :love:".

[Mr DeCastellac]

Yeah, I don't mind if my ammunition doesn't look pretty.... you're meant to die from them, not go; "awwwwh... :love:".

Well, you know the NC, man. They always have to have the prettiest things. ^.^

[Bags]

There are probably more screens, but here are a few.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/427070_10150652052558604_443073358_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/425970_10150652052663604_1321854917_n.jpg

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/69204_10150894288858604_195539102_n.jpg

Those are staged screenshots, not in game footage.

[Mr DeCastellac]

Those are staged screenshots, not in game footage.

I'm really in no mood to start a big firefight on a video game forum right now, or ever.

Suffice it to say, a staged screenshot typically is "in game footage."
Hence, the screenshot part. It's staged so that they can make it look good easily, without having to catch it at the perfect moment in a real battle.

[Bags]

I'm really in no mood to start a big firefight on a video game forum right now, or ever.

Suffice it to say, a staged screenshot typically is "in game footage."
Hence, the screenshot part. It's staged so that they can make it look good easily, without having to catch it at the perfect moment in a real battle.

I watched all of the GDC/E3 footage, none of the lasers looked like that.

And if you're "not in the mood to start a big fight" why even post on a discussion board? Isn't the point to discuss?

[Sabot]

No he's right... they don't look like that. But still.. energy discharge > projectiles. And I do believe the Lancer is described as a 'beam weapon'.

[Furber]

Imo: TR get the Mini-Chaingun, and the NC get the Not-so-Mini-Chaingun. I can see it being a much bigger and bulky chaingun, fitting the NC's art style versus the more slick look of the TR. It would be a slower firing MCG that does more damage per hit (fits the NC style). Hopefully things end up balanced.

Oh, and the VS would probably just be an under-slung lasher. Maybe compared to the current Lasher in PS1, it would have a faster projectile to be more on par with the other HA, but do less damage per hit than it does now. If they can make the "lash" mechanism balanced, then I'm fine with them keeping it. After all, it wouldn't be a "Lasher" if it didn't lash.

[captainkapautz]

But still.. energy discharge > projectiles. And I do believe the Lancer is described as a 'beam weapon'.

I agree with this.

The more of a disco lightshow you guys put out, the easier it is to home in on you.

[Shade Millith]

Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

Like the Rave Gun? Starts at 0:40
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[Ironside]

why is everyone saying all HA is gonna be underslung?
from the vid i watched higby said HA wasn't in yet cos they hadnt done the underslung animations for the MCG, he never mentioned lasher or noobhammer, did i miss summat?

[SKYeXile]

why is everyone saying all HA is gonna be underslung?
from the vid i watched higby said HA wasn't in yet cos they hadnt done the underslung animations for the MCG, he never mentioned lasher or noobhammer, did i miss summat?

yes, all HA weapons are under slung now.

[Mr DeCastellac]

And if you're "not in the mood to start a big fight" why even post on a discussion board? Isn't the point to discuss?

There is a big difference between a fight and a discussion. It started out as a discussion, and you're turning it into a fight.

I'd also like to point out that nothing about a laser specifies that it has to be a solid, continuous beam.

I'll try to keep this informative.
L.A.S.E.R. stands for "Light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation".
Nothing about that says it can't be a circular emission. As we all know, the speed of light is the absolute limit of speed, and thus is extremely fast. In theory, if you were to slow down a 'video' of a laser, and have a mechanism that would turn the laser on for a miniscule fraction of a second (so that it stops emitting almost immediately after it starts), you would observe that the laser does indeed shoot out as just a "laser dot", as you would say. (Though 'dot' implies a two-dimensional space. I would call them laser spheres or orbs.)

So yes, to end this little fight before it grows any larger, we DO have laser guns. They just might not fire a continuous beam.

[dyslecix]

Like the Rave Gun? Starts at 0:40
Tribute to Battlezone: RAVE GUN! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cXc4nW6wmw)
Haha ya cool - I'm a battlezone 2 veteran. Those were the days - I remember great fun with that thing man :)

[dyslecix]

why is everyone saying all HA is gonna be underslung?
from the vid i watched higby said HA wasn't in yet cos they hadnt done the underslung animations for the MCG, he never mentioned lasher or noobhammer, did i miss summat?

I can't imagine them being anything else. I think they will all be Underslung. And I think there will also be a serious drawback to them, I think you'll have to run alot slower when carrying it, but that's my speculation. I don't think there's any other way of balancing these weapons without doing something like this - At the current state of the TTK that is.

[Trafalgar]

In case you haven't noticed, you can't see laser beams in the air without a fair amount of particles for them to collide with, so if it was a laser, even fired in pulses or 'bolts' or whatever you want to call it, it wouldn't be visible unless you were firing in something like a fog or some kind of ash/sand/whatever storm (which would reduce its effectiveness, in addition to making it visible).

[Badjuju]

In case you haven't noticed, you can't see laser beams in the air without a fair amount of particles for them to collide with, so if it was a laser, even fired in pulses or 'bolts' or whatever you want to call it, it wouldn't be visible unless you were firing in something like a fog or some kind of ash/sand/whatever storm (which would reduce its effectiveness, in addition to making it visible).

This isn't true for all lasers depending on the beams characteristics. Regardless I believe they had said they were "energy" weapons and not lasers. So they could be some super charged/ionized particles or something, who knows. I would like to see them call it plasma or give a side grade option for plasma rounds that would retain their damage but suffer from bullet drop.

[Trafalgar]

I'd like to see lasers used to ionize the air between the gun and the target, and then throw out an electric charge to zap whatever it's targeting into submission

Edit: I think my brain is starting to malfunction from lack of sleep. I wrote a second sentence completely unrelated to the first, which had nothing to do with anything and sounded like it should have come after something else, and I couldn't figure where it came from.

[Top Sgt]

yes, all HA weapons are under slung now.

ohh wow I didn't know this I thought heavy's would have a choice between the underslung and standard assault rifle's etc

[GreatMazinkaise]

ohh wow I didn't know this I thought heavy's would have a choice between the underslung and standard assault rifle's etc

Heavy Assault is a weapon type designation... unfortunately they decided to name a class this as well in PS2, hence the confusion.

HA refers specifically to the respective BFGs of all three empires, the instagibbing Jackhammer, the versatile Lasher, and the bulletspamming Mini-Chaingun.

[Professor Frink]

Id be happy with them transferring the 3 HA weapons from PS1 as they are right now. Each of them is far from perfect. The Lasher will look much less goofy underslung than it did before.

[SKYeXile]

ohh wow I didn't know this I thought heavy's would have a choice between the underslung and standard assault rifle's etc

err sorry change in terms. I was refering to the lasher, JH and MCG as HA weapons. :/ their LMGs would still be shoulder fire.

[SKYeXile]

Heavy Assault is a weapon type designation... unfortunately they decided to name a class this as well in PS2, hence the confusion.

HA refers specifically to the respective BFGs of all three empires, the instagibbing Jackhammer, the versatile Lasher, and the bulletspamming Mini-Chaingun.

should have named the heavy assault like reinforced assault.

[The Kush]

Maybe lasher orbs will make dubstep "wub wub" sounds as they float past...

Lol

[Mongo]

best.....idea..................ever

Agree'd that is so funny.

[IHateMMOs]

They might already have them, just didn't put them out for the E3 coverage because they're not finished, but E3 was 2 weeks ago, and they do work really fast. I think we'll have the weapons in the Closed Beta, but the question is, what weapon will the NC have. We've seen the TR mini chaingun, and the VS Lasher in one of the screenshots, but no jackhammer. Although there was a screenshot of the NC minigun.

[ThermalReaper]

As long as underslung means the stance that the hoovy wields his chaingun and not a mini nuke that you can use with your assault rifle I'm fine.
I'd be also fine if:
With the NC Jackhammer would display "BANHAMMA" every time someone dies with it just to annoy Hamma and his TR mates.
With the VS Lasher it has wub wub sounds.
With the TR MCG you are able to use SoEmote to go YATATATATATA every 10 seconds you're using the damn thing.

In case you are too much of a "Hurr this is a fial thread" person, this is a joke.

[Deadeye]

If I have one thing to add to this thread : at least it takes more than a mirror to stop a bullet as opposed to a laser.

[lolroflroflcake]

Wasn't there also a picture of a jackhammer a while back? It looked like a big low-carried railgun if i remember correctly.

[IHateMMOs]

Wasn't there also a picture of a jackhammer a while back? It looked like a big low-carried railgun if i remember correctly.

You mean this old thing?

[xRidick]

You mean this old thing?
I feel that all of the factions will have underslung weapons. Which Sucks. Also I think they will have a drawback of going really slow when carrying them. Kind of sucks as i miss the old HA weapons :(

[Kalbuth]

I feel that all of the factions will have underslung weapons. Which Sucks. Also I think they will have a drawback of going really slow when carrying them. Kind of sucks as i miss the old HA weapons :(

Aww dear, I really really won't miss them. Done with winning through certs! Efficiency difference between HA and MA was far too high in PS1.

[GreatMazinkaise]

Aww dear, I really really won't miss them. Done with winning through certs! Efficiency difference between HA and MA was far too high in PS1.

Come now, the Sweeper wasn't that much worse than the Jackhammer... if you were in Agile...

[SKYeXile]

i cant way to see HA weapons just ohn nom nom nom nom through packs of people :D

[GreatMazinkaise]

i cant way to see HA weapons just ohn nom nom nom nom through packs of people :D

I'd hope so... the MAX weapons can already do that pretty efficiently.

[SKYeXile]

I'd hope so... the MAX weapons can already do that pretty efficiently.

i also want to see an MCG face fuck a MAX.

[WildEagle]

We've seen the TR mini chaingun, and the VS Lasher in one of the screenshots, but no jackhammer. Although there was a screenshot of the NC minigun.

Would it be possible for you to post the pic of the Lasher?

[GreatMazinkaise]

i also want to see an MCG face fuck a MAX.

Yes... this will be a TR-only ability, of course. Dual-Cycler MAX units will be immune to Lashers and Jackhammers.

[SKYeXile]

Would it be possible for you to post the pic of the Lasher?

Yea, i have seen no such lasher.

[Kalbuth]

Come now, the Sweeper wasn't that much worse than the Jackhammer... if you were in Agile...

don't know if they changed much stats, but I remember very slight difference between both, like 75% TTK difference on rexo. Yes.... Not "that much worse". Just takes 3/4 longer :rolleyes:

[IHateMMOs]

Would it be possible for you to post the pic of the Lasher?

Yea, i have seen no such lasher.

The lasher is in the yellow box.

[IHateMMOs]

I feel that all of the factions will have underslung weapons. Which Sucks. Also I think they will have a drawback of going really slow when carrying them. Kind of sucks as i miss the old HA weapons :(

I personally like underslung weapons, they give you the feeling of something heavy and powerful. Something uncontrollable.