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jepaul
2012-06-16, 12:52 AM
For me it is some really important things that I feel will make or break the game and causes thousands of people to play or not to play and really decide whether this game is a success or not. Because, like the music, these are things that I hear or see every second I'm playing the game. In fact, for me, I turn the volume down on everything except the music while playing an fps.

So, besides the music, these are other things I dislike and will cause me not to play the game...

1. The official ps2 website runs at a ratio that is not optimized for my 30 in monitor.
2. The color scheme in the back ground of the squad screen from what I could tell on the vids clashes with the wall behind my monitor.
3. There is not an option to turn anti aliasing to .5 because 1 just doesn't run well and 0 means my rig sucks.
4. I don't have in game voip whispers.
5. There isn't an 800x300 resolution because although that would be dumb I need something to complain about.

So what other things like bad music do you feel are incredible important and things the devs should be spending time on?

Zekeen
2012-06-16, 12:54 AM
Music isn't even done. Those are test tracks, not even orchestrated or decided on.

jepaul
2012-06-16, 12:58 AM
Music isn't even done. Those are test tracks, not even orchestrated or decided on.

Perfect because I really hope they drill down on the important stuff like music and spend money and resources there before any of the game play type stuff because, at least for me, the music is way more important than other in game sounds for an fps.

Thelionheart
2012-06-16, 12:59 AM
Music isn't even done. Those are test tracks, not even orchestrated or decided on.

This is a satirical post. Just in case you didn't read the entire OP.

@ OP :rofl:

AvacadoEight
2012-06-16, 01:01 AM
So, why exactly does music even matter? I know it can improve the moment, but I dont mind the music the way it is. That's just my opinion, and that being said, some improvements can be made, sure. Sounds are very important, but not necessarily music. Whenever I play a shooter, the musical aspects of the game aren't high on my priority list. I don't think it'll be a deal breaker for, really anyone if they don't change the music at all. I know for me it wont be, at least. I could care less if they they don't change it. I wanna make Pew Pew.

Timealude
2012-06-16, 01:02 AM
Perfect because I really hope they drill down on the important stuff like music and spend money and resources there before any of the game play type stuff because, at least for me, the music is way more important than other in game sounds for an fps.

No judging you but your saying if the music sounded awesome but the expolsion and gun fire sound fx sounded horrible you'd be ok with that?

Vancha
2012-06-16, 01:02 AM
Music isn't even done. Those are test tracks, not even orchestrated or decided on.
Oh very dear...


Edit: ...and another two. At this point my biggest concern for PS2 is the average intelligence of the player-base.

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:03 AM
This is a satirical post. Just in case you didn't read the entire OP.

@ OP :rofl:

What? you don't know me. Like everyone, and all the others complaining in other thread music is very very important to any great FPS. For competitive play nothing is more a factor in the win loss or kd of individual players than music. In fact it is 100% known that all great FPS players play with the music at full volume while turning down all the other sounds. Because of this the quality of the music is the most important thing and one that should have the most resources and time devoted to it.

AvacadoEight
2012-06-16, 01:04 AM
And, yeah. What Time said. The actual SOUNDS of the guns and explosions make the game, not the music. ( Sorry, had to add that in :p )



Wait a tic. Could it be possible he's trolling? So many people complain about this its hard to know whether or not he's serious ._.

Fylix
2012-06-16, 01:04 AM
As satirical as the post was, I think music is actually far more important in games than people think. It probably doesn't greatly affect sales, but it can really make the game more enjoyable, and at least for me can cause me to go play a game more.

I can get a tune going through my head out of nowhere and just have this urge to play the game, even if I haven't in a long time.

Just think of Mario, Zelda, Halo, and a other games that have incredibly iconic music and you may know what I mean.


Also, first post! Hi everyone!

LayZ
2012-06-16, 01:04 AM
Well *huff puff* I don't like how the VS music reminds me of certain Linkin Park songs. Linkin Park sucks.

GreatMazinkaise
2012-06-16, 01:05 AM
So, why exactly does music even matter? I know it can improve the moment, but I dont mind the music the way it is. That's just my opinion, and that being said, some improvements can be made, sure. Sounds are very important, but not necessarily music. Whenever I play a shooter, the musical aspects of the game aren't high on my priority list. I don't think it'll be a deal breaker for, really anyone if they don't change the music at all. I know for me it wont be, at least. I could care less if they they don't change it. I wanna make Pew Pew.

The music is the MOST IMPORTANT THING though, because we already have faith that the devs will clone all the game mechanics from some awful console shooter. That way we know we'll have both great music and a great game.

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:06 AM
So, why exactly does music even matter? I know it can improve the moment, but I dont mind the music the way it is. That's just my opinion, and that being said, some improvements can be made, sure. Sounds are very important, but not necessarily music. Whenever I play a shooter, the musical aspects of the game aren't high on my priority list. I don't think it'll be a deal breaker for, really anyone if they don't change the music at all. I know for me it wont be, at least. I could care less if they they don't change it. I wanna make Pew Pew.


If you've seen all the other threads complaining about music you would realize that for everyone and all great gamers the music is the most important thing about and FPS. What else could possibly be more important

Thelionheart
2012-06-16, 01:07 AM
And, yeah. What Time said. The actual SOUNDS of the guns and explosions make the game, not the music. ( Sorry, had to add that in :p )



Wait a tic. Could it be possible he's trolling? So many people complain about this its hard to know whether or not he's serious ._.

It's satire, not trolling.

Ironside
2012-06-16, 01:08 AM
ahh that's where i've been going wrong, i always turn the bleeding music off ;)

QuantumMechanic
2012-06-16, 01:09 AM
Wow. And here I thought that I was the only guy that turns down all sound except the music in FPS games!

Bags
2012-06-16, 01:09 AM
As satirical as the post was, I think music is actually far more important in games than people think. It probably doesn't greatly affect sales, but it can really make the game more enjoyable, and at least for me can cause me to go play a game more.

I can get a tune going through my head out of nowhere and just have this urge to play the game, even if I haven't in a long time.

Just think of Mario, Zelda, Halo, and a other games that have incredibly iconic music and you may know what I mean.


Also, first post! Hi everyone!

Those are SP games, most people turn off the music in MP shooters so they can hear footsteps and voice.

AvacadoEight
2012-06-16, 01:09 AM
It's satire, not trolling.

I feel so stupid now ._.

Its just hard to know anymore, with the way some people complain about everything...

Xeller
2012-06-16, 01:09 AM
Satirical or not, the music for PS1 was one of the most unique soundtracks of its time and was very memorable. That said, I am happy with the music so far in PS2. I'm just pissed that the TR got the main PS1 theme for their soundtrack :P

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:11 AM
No judging you but your saying if the music sounded awesome but the expolsion and gun fire sound fx sounded horrible you'd be ok with that?

For sure and I think everyone else agrees with me from the other threads. I don't know anyone that doesn't blast FPS music at full volume. I could care less about someone sneaking up on me or the aerial vehicle coming down on me. I just want great music and I can tell that the masses agree with me by the number of threads talking about music. I really don't think anything else should be talked about on these forums until the devs answer the single most important question. And that is, will the music be epic or not? Because without epic music the game cannot, and will not, succeed

Dagron
2012-06-16, 01:11 AM
Music is the single most important aspect of everything in life. See, i love music so much that this is my browser's home page:

Music is my LIFE!

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:13 AM
Music is the single most important aspect of everything in life. See, i love music so much that this is my browser's home page:

Music is my LIFE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XZGHOxnCto)

I lol'd. or trololled?

WildEagle
2012-06-16, 01:14 AM
If you've seen all the other threads complaining about music you would realize that for everyone and all great gamers the music is the most important thing about and FPS. What else could possibly be more important


Don't play the game then if it's that serious. I don't understand why people are always crying about an Alpha build they haven't even played yet. Any other person that has played the first iteration of PS will happily play the second, regardless of the music.

Phellix
2012-06-16, 01:14 AM
I approve of this thread. Music or bust

Naz The Eternal
2012-06-16, 01:14 AM
Music is the single most important aspect of everything in life. See, i love music so much that this is my browser's home page:

Music is my LIFE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XZGHOxnCto)

Too soon... He JUST died man...

http://www.theamotimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/tollollo-man1.jpg

iburnmycd
2012-06-16, 01:16 AM
Don't play the game then if it's that serious. I don't understand why people are always crying about an Alpha build they haven't even played yet. Any other person that has played the first iteration of PS will happily play the second.

Obviously you don't understand the concept of gaming then... do you think anyone remembers the gameplay of Grand Theft Auto? No! They remember the sound track. You wouldn't know that though... with your XBox experience

Dagron
2012-06-16, 01:17 AM
Too soon... He JUST died man...

Yet, through us, his spirit lives on. :)

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:18 AM
Don't play the game then if it's that serious. I don't understand why people are always crying about an Alpha build they haven't even played yet. Any other person that has played the first iteration of PS will happily play the second, regardless of the music.

I don't know though man. the music in an FPS is so important for so many people. I dont' know of any great gamer that doesn't hum the theme song to bf2 or codmw. Those sound tracks are what made those games great and I know in my heart of hearts that is what could make ps2 great also. The music must be epic and from what i can tell so far people don't think it is epic.

We must have epic music!

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:20 AM
I work out to fucking zelda man. Games may come and go but the music never dies man.

WildEagle
2012-06-16, 01:21 AM
Obviously you don't understand the concept of gaming then... do you think anyone remembers the gameplay of Grand Theft Auto? No! They remember the sound track. You wouldn't know that though... with your XBox experience

I understand that you have a strong opinion toward music in games but that has nothing to do with my casual interests in gaming. You obviously don't care about playing the game at all. You're just one of those people that has nothing to do but complain until Beta starts.

Dagron
2012-06-16, 01:22 AM
All kidding aside, i agree: a game's soundtrack needs to ROCK!

Not because it'll make the game better or worse, but because all music should be awesome or gtfo. :rock:

Edit: ok, going a little overboard with the video links. :P

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:24 AM
I understand that you have a strong opinion toward music in games but that has nothing to do with my casual interests in gaming. You obviously don't care about playing the game at all. You're just one of those people that has nothing to do but complain until Beta starts.

But man it's about the music man. You only have one chance to get the music right. You can't redo the sound track after release. It is a one shot deal. It must be EPIC. Epic music or fail game. there is no grey area here.

Otleaz
2012-06-16, 01:24 AM
Music isn't needed but it can make an average game fantastic if done properly. I haven't seen a western game nail it yet though.

Pretty much any successful Japanese game relied on good music.

Legend of Mana OST - Legend of Mana ~ Title Theme - YouTube

iburnmycd
2012-06-16, 01:25 AM
I understand that you have a strong opinion toward music in games but that has nothing to do with my casual interests in gaming. You obviously don't care about playing the game at all. You're just one of those people that has nothing to do but complain until Beta starts.

Casual? You were proud enough to post your rank (124th on XBox live)...

That being said, if you've spent that much time playing XBox games you must have learned to love the music! Unless... your mommy makes you turn down the volume... in which case shame on her. Music enriches lives and creates a more productive work force.

We the masses demand epic music.

Naz The Eternal
2012-06-16, 01:26 AM
I dont' know of any great gamer that doesn't hum the theme song to bf2 or codmw. Those sound tracks are what made those games great and I know in my heart of hearts that is what could make ps2 great also.

DUDE! TOTALLY! MUSIC ALL THE WAY BRO! :dance:

A little insight into a music related story. During the Alpha testing stages of BF2142, a whole group of close testers began to boycott 2142 because the sound track had been changed from the original tune.

A week later a new version was released and sounded amazing!

Zebasiz
2012-06-16, 01:28 AM
All kidding aside, i agree: a game's soundtrack needs to ROCK!

Edit: ok, going a little overboard with the video links. :P

Agree.
Trolling aside, Music is an important part of the game, and when done right can nicely blend into the background with the other sound effects.

We will just have to wait for the finished product before we try and get the "feel" of it.

Additional: Throw ALL the development money at the music! Infact, To make this the BEST FPS you should only be able to fire in time with the music. That will provide an even deeper connection between gameplay and music that I believe we can all love.

WildEagle
2012-06-16, 01:29 AM
Oh. I get it now -_____-

You two can eat a dick by the way.

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:30 AM
I have also always felt that petitions are a great way to get devs to change things about there games. I mean, how can people that do this for a living know more about how to make money developing a game than people living in their mom's basement and only friend are people they talk to via a headset.

So, because of that, and while talking via a headset, I think unless the Dev's change the music to epic standard we will be forced to start a petition. I know that is drastic but it will be done if needed. The music must be defended.

Dagron
2012-06-16, 01:32 AM
Oh. I get it now -_____-

:lol:

iburnmycd
2012-06-16, 01:32 AM
You two can eat a dick by the way.

I don't get what
http://spotteddick.net/spotted-dick.jpg

Has to do with the need for epic music. Care to explain, or is it your bed time?

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:33 AM
The game either meets these 5 requirements or puppy mad!

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/12/29/129065758837901884.jpg

See dev's, without epic music puppies are mad. Do you really want to be the reason for mad puppies. Say it ain't so! Defend the music.

FPClark
2012-06-16, 01:34 AM
The way the plasma shoots from the magrider is totally unrealistic! Gosh! havnt the devs ever shot a magrider in real life?

Trafalgar
2012-06-16, 01:35 AM
You don't have to have a high gamerscore, or even care if anyone else has a higher one, to link your xbox live profile to the forums here...

Agree.
Additional: Throw ALL the development money at the music! Infact, To make this the BEST FPS you should only be able to fire in time with the music. That will provide an even deeper connection between gameplay and music that I believe we can all love.

(The music will be the three full released albums by E.S. Posthumus, of course)

utshost
2012-06-16, 01:36 AM
http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/internet-troll-were-all-gonna.gif

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:37 AM
The way the plasma shoots from the magrider is totally unrealistic! Gosh! havnt the devs ever shot a magrider in real life?

This is what I'm talking about. the community must come together and encourage the devs to fix these types of things that are so incredibly important to the success of the game.

Gabage
2012-06-16, 01:38 AM
Don Ferrone, the composer for the original Planetside, has only had two jobs before he was brought on, yet again for Planeside 2.

He worked on the movie Inside Man and Faith Hill's Joy to the World: A Soundstage Special.

How can this ever produce good music.

Petition Signed!

Dairian
2012-06-16, 01:45 AM
People play with music on? Geez

iburnmycd
2012-06-16, 01:46 AM
Don Ferrone, the composer for the original Planetside, has only had two jobs before he braught on, yet again for Planeside 2.

He worked on the movie Inside Man and Faith Hill's Joy to the World: A Soundstage Special.

How can this ever produce good music.

Petition Signed!

You only need GarageBand and a few dubstep beats to rock out an epic soundtrack, amirite?

jepaul
2012-06-16, 01:54 AM
Don Ferrone, the composer for the original Planetside, has only had two jobs before he braught on, yet again for Planeside 2.

He worked on the movie Inside Man and Faith Hill's Joy to the World: A Soundstage Special.

How can this ever produce good music.

Petition Signed!

Wholly shit, and promoted CPT Gabage. CO Intel. I bow to you sir.

O, and that brings up a good point, if you can't bow in this MMO it will be a complete flop.

Luieburger
2012-06-16, 01:56 AM
I think this game needs to be on console.

Phellix
2012-06-16, 01:57 AM
I think this game needs to be on console.

Well, this thread was funny, until this.

duomaxwl
2012-06-16, 01:59 AM
I think this game needs to be on console.

Too far.

jepaul
2012-06-16, 02:00 AM
I think this game needs to be on console.

See man that is what I'm talking about. thank you for joining the thread man. Dev's read this man's post and see what your community wants. Console man. The masses want console and epic music.

Defend the music! (and the console?)

Zebasiz
2012-06-16, 02:01 AM
I think this game needs to be on console.

That's a bad miss... :nono:

jepaul
2012-06-16, 02:05 AM
to my fellow music, plasma ray, and console lovers. I bid you good night. We shall continue our epic struggle for epic fps music on the morrow. Until then, stay strong, fight the fight, and remember, just because you died because your fps music was to loud doesn't make you a bad player. It just means you love the music man.

Defend the Music!

http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=43116

iburnmycd
2012-06-16, 02:05 AM
That's a bad miss... :nono:

Actually... he might have a good idea here... I need a reason to dust off my...

http://www.computercloset.org/SegaGenesis132X.jpg

I'm sure the devs can find a way to get it to work with SegaNet and make it enjoyable for everyone

Dagron
2012-06-16, 02:12 AM
I think this game needs to be on console.
Too far.

Agreed.

You can't go out dropping the C-bomb every time you want to shock people. I mean, insulting us is one thing... but this?

:lol:

Serotriptomine
2012-06-16, 04:24 AM
Mute the music, load up a radio, have fun.

Mepper
2012-06-16, 04:33 AM
There are two things I want to say:

1: You say all the best gamers turn down all the sounds and turn the music loud? That is nonsens, ever played a game competitively, or met someone who did?
Whenever you do so, you should ALWAYS turn off the music and ambient sound. You just wanna hear footsteps, shots, explosions, hitsounds etc. Saying else is just bulls***

2: The current music sounds awesome.

JimmyOmaha
2012-06-16, 04:35 AM
There are two things I want to say:

1: You say all the best gamers turn down all the sounds and turn the music loud? That is nonsens, ever played a game competitively, or met someone who did?
Whenever you do so, you should ALWAYS turn off the music and ambient sound. You just wanna hear footsteps, shots, explosions, hitsounds etc. Saying else is just bulls***

2: The current music sounds awesome.

Round 2




FIGHT!

sumo
2012-06-16, 04:38 AM
music is something i always turn off in ANY game because it is just a distraction. if someone is shooting at me and i don't know from where i dont wan't music while trying to use sound to locate the shooter.
so please don't waste to much resources there.

indirect
2012-06-16, 04:46 AM
So what other things like bad music do you feel are incredible important and things the devs should be spending time on?

Well since devs have NOTHING to do with music...

Dagron
2012-06-16, 04:59 AM
Round 2

FIGHT!

:lol:

Dart
2012-06-16, 05:10 AM
How can you guys NOT see the satire dripping from this thread? If you really think the OP is being serous your not ready for the internet, cancel you're contract with your ISP and go read a few books! Start with Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. It'll teach you something about satire.

I only hope Stew, presumably the intended 'target', read this thread. Although he probably missed the joke too and just thinks he has a kindred spirit!

SniperSteve
2012-06-16, 09:01 AM
Actually the music sets the tone for the entire game, so yeah, it is crazy important!

MayPeX
2012-06-16, 09:24 AM
The music is for added immersion, it's entirely possible to create a game with very little music. Music in game is dependant on the type of game as well.

Look at RTS's, most if not all feature in-game music consistently playing. Titles like the Total War series, Starcraft series, Age of Empire series, Supreme Commander series and Company of Heroes series. (For starters.)

First person shooters in particular don't feature music in the same way as RTS's, most of the time your main menu, loading screens and cinematics feature music. Maybe at key points in the game music will be played, but most of the time it's just you, the ambience and the sounds of war.

Some shooters will feature more music than others, again depends on the style of the game. Unreal Tournament, an arena shooter often comes equipment with music in the action. Other shooters like Arma 2, the Battlefield series and Call of Duty don't generally have music while in-game. (Multiplayer wise.)

Then we come across RPG's, this applies to all RPG's. Music is taken more seriously here, because the music fits the mood and atmosphere of any given point in an RPG. Namely titles from Bioware and Square Enix do this well in their own way.

Namely the Mass Effect series from Bioware, it's a shooter, but it's also an RPG. Being an RPG, the music needs to capture the mood of the player during the game. It's like an attempt to make you care more about what's happening in the game, thus trying to affect decisions and actions you make.

One shooter though, did things a little different.

Red Orchestra 2, one of the many shooters I know to feature music consistently when in-game. Some can argue the music doesn't fit the nature of the game, you generally have quite minor toned string quartets and symphonies playing in a war environment. Given it's a World War 2 themed game, based around the Russian front. So this could be just what you interpret.

Now for Planetside 2, what we seen so far is not finished content. It's very clear by now. It's a shooter MMO with RPG elements, I think it's nice to give each faction their own theme and style of music. Personally that's great, it separates any similarities from each of them.

I'm going to leave this part short and sweet, so thank you if you actually bothered reading any of the garbage above.

If you don't like the music, it's simple... Mute and create your own playlist. I personally find the current ideas fit the factions and look forward to the finished product.

jepaul
2012-06-16, 09:56 AM
We have no been move to the boils of the lounge. They don't want our voices to be heard. We must wave our arms higher and higerh until the silent majority is heard. The music can not defend itself so we must defend it! Music is all that matter in an FPS. Damn the man and lets fight on.

Defend the Music@

http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=43116

MayPeX
2012-06-16, 09:58 AM
We have no been move to the boils of the lounge. They don't want our voices to be heard. We must wave our arms higher and higerh until the silent majority is heard. The music can not defend itself so we must defend it! Music is all that matter in an FPS. Damn the man and lets fight on.

Defend the Music@

http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=43116

Cool story bro.

iburnmycd
2012-06-16, 11:58 AM
1: You say all the best gamers turn down all the sounds and turn the music loud? That is nonsens, ever played a game competitively, or met someone who did?
Whenever you do so, you should ALWAYS turn off the music and ambient sound. You just wanna hear footsteps, shots, explosions, hitsounds etc. Saying else is just bulls***

music is something i always turn off in ANY game because it is just a distraction. if someone is shooting at me and i don't know from where i dont wan't music while trying to use sound to locate the shooter.
so please don't waste to much resources there.

Toxin as played in TWL and CAL and proved to be a force to be reckoned with. I played in CAL years ago for a number of years and we played very well with music screaming in the background. It kept us pumped and in the battle. If you have to listen for footsteps, shots, explosions, hit sounds, and etc then you aren't a very good twitch player. Work on your skills and let the music fly. It's a shame you guys rely on your ears so much... what would happen if you went deaf? You'd beg to be able to hear music again.

I dislike music in general.

This makes me a

http://ismyipv6working.com/sad-panda-because-v4.jpg

Your life is empty my fellow player

If you don't like the music, it's simple... Mute and create your own playlist. I personally find the current ideas fit the factions and look forward to the finished product.

How can we create our own playlist? It's not like we can just download music that fits our tastes and play it in the background... that would be copyright infringement and against the law. Therefore, we must rely on PS2 to provide us with epic music to keep us going and immersed in battle.

MayPeX
2012-06-16, 01:06 PM
How can we create our own playlist? It's not like we can just download music that fits our tastes and play it in the background... that would be copyright infringement and against the law. Therefore, we must rely on PS2 to provide us with epic music to keep us going and immersed in battle.

Just about every piece of music uploaded/used on youtube breaks many copyright infringements. I also never promoted the idea of downloading music, but no one will stop you.

As to creating your own playlist? I'll help you.

Step 1: Get Itunes.

Step 2: Creating a Planetside 2 playlist, or multiple of em.

Step 3: Add music/downloaded-music to playlist.

Step 4: Shuffle that shizz.

Step 5: Press play.

Step 6: Play Planetside 2.

If you are cool you'll find epic music that is released for free LEGALLY, or you may buy some cool tunes either way is cool.

But totally watch out for the cyber police!

PS: You can totally download music that fits your taste.