Get rid of the New Motto, bring back the old

[Geist]

Anyone else find the new Motto "Size Always Matters" rather dumb? I've always felt that the Planetside 1 Motto was perfect, nothing came close to the amount of excitement I had when I first read the line:

For Land, For Power, Forever

I actually really wishing they'd use that again, anyone else agree?

[SKYeXile]

i like Markov forums PS2 motto "Massive disappointment on an epic scale"

[Greeniegriz]

I'm not a huge fan of "Size Always Matters" though i get it.

I'm good with "For Land, For Power, Forever"

I guess this go-round they are focusing on the size and not the persistence? Even though they seem to be hammering both. /shrug

Cheers,

GG

[The Kush]

Yea size always matters blows (no pun intended haha) I like the old motto a lot better. But this new motto is a lot easier for CoD and other noobs to understand. (they aren't the brightest)

[Ailos]

I think the new motto is much more suiting to the scale of the game today. Its just more suiting in any situation. We Texans actually live by that motto.

[Bags]

I like both

[Otleaz]

I can't help but interpret it as "Zerg them and you win"

[zomg]

I suggest "Always bet on Duke"

[WNxThentar]

Anyone else find the new Motto "Size Always Matters" rather dumb? I've always felt that the Planetside 1 Motto was perfect, nothing came close to the amount of excitement I had when I first read the line:

For Land, For Power, Forever

I actually really wishing they'd use that again, anyone else agree?

No, I don't find it rather dumb. I find it a bit cheeky and very applicable to the game. In PS1 and PS2 the size of the battles is mainly what it is about and this moto clearly presents this idea to people new to the idea of a MMOFPS.

The "For land, for power, forever" sounds very dated to me.

[The Kush]

Now with the poll I chose something else:

"massive combat on an unprecedented scale"

Idk came up with this off the top of my head I will update if I can think of something better

[captainkapautz]

i like Markov forums PS2 motto "Massive disappointment on an epic scale"

I'm, personally, a fan of "Battlefield Auraxis. Coming to a console near you."

[Blackwolf]

No, I don't find it rather dumb. I find it a bit cheeky and very applicable to the game. In PS1 and PS2 the size of the battles is mainly what it is about and this moto clearly presents this idea to people new to the idea of a MMOFPS.

The "For land, for power, forever" sounds very dated to me.

It also doesn't speak much for PS2 while it did say much about PS1.

PS1 had lots of land. PS2 is shooting for big battles, not so much space to battle on.

[Trafalgar]

Leading poll title and post is leading.

[Envenom]

My girlfriend tells me size does matter. So imma go with that one.

[Mordelicius]

The Devs ought to send PSU a dozen beta keys. Then PSU run a Best PS2 Motto/Tagline contest in the forum :D The Devs will pick the best 12 entries.

Run the contest up to 1 week before closed beta. Maybe PS2 can even use the very best one in any future trailer :groovy:

[GreatMazinkaise]

It also doesn't speak much for PS2 while it did say much about PS1.

PS1 had lots of land. PS2 is shooting for big battles, not so much space to battle on.

They need to fix that bit right quick... incidentally, didn't know there was a tagline for the original game. Guess it was kind of like the backstory...

Who cares why we're here? We're red and they're blue and purple; none of us can ever really die, so let's fight to the death FOREVER!

[xnorb]

IMO the size motto simply doesn't cut it.
It might be somewhat fun for those running around "hehe, penis, hehe" but
i'd like to have something on a more epic and patriotic scale than that.

In the end, i don't give rats, as it's only a motto :)
Just don't want CoD kiddies running around yelling "mine is bigger than yours"
every time after they killed me. I'd rather have someone yelling "For Power"
when they drop me :)

[Vancha]

Size always matters ranks anywhere from mildly amusing to funny for a lot of people, but it'll have gotten old by release. It's cool until then though.

I voted for the old motto, but to be honest, it'd probably be better to have something that'd make people identifiable as Planetside players would be good. Bonus points if it can be put on a shirt with out sounding cheesy out of context, or if it's good to chant as a crowd at E3/Fan Faire etc.

For example, if I'm wearing an Alliance shirt and someone says "For the Horde!", I know exactly what they mean. If I'm wearing an NC shirt, I can't imagine someone reciting "For land, for power, forever" in my general direction, or "Size Always Matters", for that matter.

[GreatMazinkaise]

IMO the size motto simply doesn't cut it.
It might be somewhat fun for those running around "hehe, penis, hehe" but
i'd like to have something on a more epic and patriotic scale than that.

In the end, i don't give rats, as it's only a motto :)
Just don't want CoD kiddies running around yelling "mine is bigger than yours"
every time after they killed me. I'd rather have someone yelling "For Power"
when they drop me :)

Don't worry... they won't be yelling "mine is bigger than yours"...

"Your best is my worst!" "Best you can do?" "I dunno..." "Fabulous!" "Not good but it happened." and of course:

"MAN A TURRET!"

[SKYeXile]

Don't worry... they won't be yelling "mine is bigger than yours"...

"Your best is my worst!" "Best you can do?" "I dunno..." "Fabulous!" "Not good but it happened." and of course:

"MAN A TURRET!"

You'll get better in time.

[GreatMazinkaise]

I will cry bloody tears if I can't hear those words over my mangled corpse.

<- literally listened to a third of the master .wav file of Planetside two nights ago

[Otleaz]

Attack, retrieve, capture

One million internets for all who know the reference.

[Mr DeCastellac]

It's funny because penis.

[Sabrak]

Planetside 2
All your base are belong to us

[I SandRock]

It's marketing. The number 1 key feature that separates PS2 from games like BF3 and CoD is it's size, more vehicles, more players, more space etc. It's not about what sounds cool it's about what sells.

[Deezy]

PlanetSide 2
Massive combat, because nothing else matters.





:shrug:Or something like that.

[Canaris]

Something else, I'd go for motto that encompasses all three factions - For our Freedom/ For Unity / For the future
Or similar

[Zekeen]

Can't we just have the old motto AND the new motto?

[Dagron]

I don't really care for either, they're not bad but... meh.

[ChipMHazard]

My girlfriend tells me size does matter. So imma go with that one.

Since you're a fellow TR I will resist the urge to post a not entirely witty remark.:p

I don't really feel that this motto really indicates what the game is about, unless you argue that size/scope really is what they want to push this time around.

[ringring]

The old motto was always a bit 'meh', the new one speak more to the angle SPE want to push with PS2 especially in relation to BF, Modern Warfare, namely size really does make a difference - and what's more it really does.

[Stew]

My girlfriend tells me size does matter. So imma go with that one.

Are you trying to say something about your genitals size ?

[Stew]

Size always matters is all about the Scales of planetside 2 even planetside 1 was a skirmish game compare to planetside 2 we talk about 2000 players not 300 !

And this motto is about the scales of the game only to show people thas planetside is about Massive scales !

because for most people shooters are shooters no matter whats and people must understand thats the only way to experience a scales like this is in planetside 2

So SIze always matter fit perfectly in thats marketing optic !

For land for power forever do not make a huge point of the scales and its more confusing for new people to the franchise !

Anyway my own Motto is »» Failure is not an option ««« and the old ps1 motto is also true for planetside 2 but the marketing is mostly around the scales and it must be thats way ! For now

[Stew]

i like Markov forums PS2 motto "Massive disappointment on an epic scale"

So for you this game is a disapointement ... Ok enough said ;)

[SztEltviz]

Both good, but i like the original more.

[Sledgecrushr]

With a motto like "Massive Three Ways" we could easily get the internet porn crowd.

[Lorgarn]

I kind of like it quite honestly. It emphasizes the... well, the size that is PlanetSide. Nuff said! :)

[Fab]

I like the new one, especially because of the sexual reference. Keep it!
(they'll keep it anyways coz it must have cost them millions of dollar in market studies)

[tomogaso]

Yea size always matters blows (no pun intended haha) I like the old motto a lot better. But this new motto is a lot easier for CoD and other noobs to understand. (they aren't the brightest)

Calling CoD players noobs and dumb doesn't really make you bright or good at games....
U just hate when people generalize.....

[MacXXcaM]

Are you trying to say something about your genitals size ?

Yes, Stew... that's the whole joke about it... :rolleyes:

I'd prefer "Size does matter." over "Size always matters."

Simply sounds better and seems more logical. Size wouldn't matter in every game at any time. It does however in an MMO.

They shouldn't exaggerate it though. Maybe in 2 few more teasers, and that's it then.

It's still funny now, but not for long.

[NewSith]

For Land. For Power. Forever. And Ever After.

I really like the last line, kinda gives a hint that it's a sequel. (Yeah, yeah, reimagining, not sequel, I know)

[kaffis]

"For Land. For Power. Forever." was a great tagline for Planetside 1. It emphasized the strongest, most unique point about Planetside at the time, in the market it emerged from. Persistence was a big deal, and nobody else really had it in a PvP environment.

Persistent PvP doesn't stand out as much anymore, since there are other games that offer it. EVE, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Perpetuum Online, even Global Agenda can be argued to have it.

"Size. Always. Matters.", on the other hand, definitely highlights Planetside 2's stunning achievement. The biggest PvP game from a "size of battles" perspective I can think of are things like Battlefield or Pirates of the Burning Sea, which support on the order of 25-50ish players per side. And Planetside 2 blows that away by an order of magnitude. That's significant. That stands out. And you should highlight your strengths when marketing.

[Greeniegriz]

For Land. For Power. Forever. And Ever After.

I really like the last line, kinda gives a hint that it's a sequel. (Yeah, yeah, reimagining, not sequel, I know)

What about:

For Land. For Power. Forever. Soon™

Eh? Eh?

/sigh

Cheers,

GG

[NewSith]

What about:

For Land. For Power. Forever. In a few weeks.(c)

Eh? Eh?

/sigh

Cheers,

GG

/fixed

[kaffis]

With a motto like "Massive Three Ways" we could easily get the internet porn crowd.
Lol.

I'd prefer "Size does matter." over "Size always matters."
This would've been fine, too.

[Conq]

The motto isn't for you/us, they already know we'll be playing PS2. It's for a broader, general audience and it works.

[GhettoPrince]

I think the new motto is much more suiting to the scale of the game today. Its just more suiting in any situation. We Texans actually live by that motto.

Yeah, that's actually a huge problem in Texas, seriously, walk down the street in San Antonio and every third person is a massive lardass. Dallas is even worse.

[The Degenatron]

"Epicly Massive. Massively Epic."

"Three Empires. One World."

"You're Not Ready."

"We put the 'Global' in Global Domination."

"You won't believe it until you see it."

"Beyond The Horizon Await A Thousand Enemy"

"Load up. Drop in. Kick ass."

[NewSith]

"You're Not Ready."

http://i.qkme.me/35wqdx.jpg

[polywomple]

this should be it


Planetside 2

My body is ready.

[Graywolves]

Size. Always. Matters. Feels like someone tried really hard to hit a sexual inuendo while at the same time making the game appear to be shallow.

People get it, the game is huge. The catch phrase isn't going to be that lightbulb over their head that goes "Oh so 1000s of people on a battlefield."


It makes it sound like PS2 is saying "Hurrdurr, Zergfest!!!!"


Even if the game is to be a massive zergfest of throwing bodies against each other (which I hope not...) do we really want to advertise it like that?





I seriously just can't express how lame "Size. Always. Matters." is. It feels like someone forgot to do their job and on the last minute someone said "oh yeah what's our catch phrase?"

Like, I see that catchphrase show up at the end of the trailer and I forget how excited I am to play the game for a brief moment. It's that bad.

[PoisonTaco]

Maybe it's because I'm a big Star Wars nerd, but I look at it as a counter to Yoda's, "Size matters not."

Everything about this game is huge, and they've got to push it. Like CoD? BF? Then check out PS2 because it's bigger and better.

[p0intman]

Old motto > new one. New one I'll have to agree is only dumbing the game down further with the appeal to CoD and BF2/3 idiots. Thats fine though if they're only capable of getting that much.

[Pillar of Armor]

"Load up. Drop in. Kick ass."

This^

[Dagron]

To poke some fun at borderlands 2: "87 bazillion guns are more effective in the hands of 87 bazillion players!"

Make that catchier and you're golden. :D

[Trafalgar]

Blood calls out for blood.

(Borrowed from Babylon 5's Londo Mollari)

[Gandhi]

Planetside 2: "WE ARE TOMORROW" :lol:

[Zolan]

Both sounds pretty dumb to be honest.

Pick something simple and to the point.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/230/497/2ca.jpg

[Baneblade]

There can be, only One!

[ItsTheSheppy]

I thought the motto was the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

"Oh!" I'm supposed to say. "Tee hee! That reminds me if things people say about penises!"

Give me a break. Marketing team must have wanted an early lunch when they came up with that one.

[Dagron]

Pick something simple and to the point.

"PS2, it's bigger than a bread basket!"

:D

[Hamma]

I'm not a huge fan of the new motto but overall it's not that bad.. definitely will get some attention. :lol:

[Hosp]

I'm not a huge fan of "Size Always Matters" though i get it.

I'm good with "For Land, For Power, Forever"

I guess this go-round they are focusing on the size and not the persistence? Even though they seem to be hammering both. /shrug

Cheers,

GG

Agreed

[Oty]

I Like the new one, and you know what they say, sex sell :P

[UFN]

Size Always Matters sounds just...awful. Planetside 2 doesn't need, and doesn't suit, the COD Dudebro player and the only people who are going to chuckle or "Appreciate" "Size always matters" are going to be people who chuckle at it loudly and then yell "YEAH JUST LIKE WITH MY DICK. AMMIRIGHT BRO?"

It's also fucking easy as shit. "For Land, For power, Forever" sounds at least like someone thought about it.

[TheDAWinz]

Old motto blows, SIZE ALWAYS MATTERS FOOL

[Sledgecrushr]

I like the new motto just fine. If they come up with something better then that would be ok too. Maybe we need a thread where we can brainstorm new mottos.

[Hermes]

Not a fan of the new motto, if that is what it shall be. A one off tag for a video and it's quirky and light hearted.

As an ongoing phrase it feels too quirky. Like something I would expect at the end of YouTube-Battlefield Heroes Trailer 2008.

IMHO - something with a bit more gravity and less smirk factor would mesh better with advertising PS2's epic scale. :(

So, at least to me....I preferred the old but would welcome a different new one equally.

[Rago]

For Land, For Power, Forever... Forgot to post here ;)

[Shlomoshun]

My girlfriend tells me size does matter. So imma go with that one.

be careful what you bank on. There's always a bigger fish.... ;)

[MrMorton]

the logo change is such a let down.

How am I supposed to play this game, knowing it has such a crappy logo

if they don't change the logo back, I am selling my beta key

[Zaerath]

PS2. BALLS. DEEP.

Short, memorable, fits on a tshirt.

You have no idea how hard that made me laugh.

[Warborn]

Is that really the tagline for the game? Size always matters? A dick joke, basically?

[Winfernal]

Planetside: you are babies

[Dagron]

IMHO - something with a bit more gravity and less smirk factor would mesh better with advertising PS2's epic scale.

About the new one, ^this.

The old one had the right tone i guess, but it's a little boring.

[Warborn]

Smirk factor. I like that. You need to remember they're shooting for roughly the same level of seriousness as Team Fortress 2. Smirk factor, as you might call it, is not out of place here. I think making the game's tagline a dick joke with no subtlety is pretty tacky, but having a game where you cover yourself in little hearts and put spinnas on your tank take itself too seriously would be pretty out of place, too.

[Dagron]

You need to remember they're shooting for roughly the same level of seriousness as Team Fortress 2.

This would suck, because that's not the mood they conveyed to me at all so far...


a game where you cover yourself in little hearts and put spinnas on your tank

Despite all this zebra'n junk silliness, i thought PS wasn't supposed to be comical.
I assume they're putting that stuff in but don't really want the wackyness to get out of hand (like TF2 did).

[Talek Krell]

I voted for the old motto, but to be honest, it'd probably be better to have something that'd make people identifiable as Planetside players would be good. Bonus points if it can be put on a shirt with out sounding cheesy out of context, or if it's good to chant as a crowd at E3/Fan Faire etc.Pretty much this. I just hope their marketing didn't spend a lot of time researching their current tagline. :rolleyes:

[Noivad]

For Land. For Power. Forever. Is a powerful statement.

As far as size goes.

"It's not the size of the DOG in a fight, it's the size of the fight in the DOG"

But I would support the following statement .

For Land. For Power. For Greed. Excluding God, For Land. For Power. For Greed. is the cause of most wars. And Planetside is about War. Never ending, vicious, cycled death.

Thats what brings people into FPSMMOs - Not the Size of a map or the number of people. (Note: Number of People does help though ) But is not the only thing that attracts FPS player to a game. :evil:

[Hmr85]

I have to agree with the op. I much prefer the old PS1 motto over the new one. It just sounds better.

[Russ]

I dont really like the motto. I feel its too much of a innuendo and doesnt really capture what the game is about. Feels like it should be a Katamari game motto.

[EVILPIG]

I'm happy to see a motto that recognizes my gift. ..and I'm not talking about the outfit!!

Oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhh!!!! :cool:

[Highwind]

Anything but " Free to Play. Your Way.™ "

Which I remember seeing a few places around the pre-E3 screenshots, but luckily it didn't seem to be front and center, but rather was replaced with size always matters for the main trailer.

Some people say that Free to Play. Your Way.™ is the global SOE F2P tag line, fine whatever but keep that away from Planetside because it made me cringe 100 times more then any innuendo ever did.

[TheBladeRoden]

"How can we cram so many players into one game?"
http://i.qkme.me/35yioj.jpg

[Badjuju]

I like the old motto better, yet if I had to guess the new one is primarily for marketing purposes. What they are trying to push about this game and what makes it distinct from the current FPS games out there is its size. Again I like the old motto better, but they think this one will attract more players then I am all for it.

[cryosin]

I love the original but "Size always matters" is also very good.

Something about the old saying turns on the "C&C" Nostalgia. But Size always matters is very good, im okay with either.

[Geist]

I like the new motto just fine. If they come up with something better then that would be ok too. Maybe we need a thread where we can brainstorm new mottos.

Do it here, what do you think the third option is for? Although I suppose I could change the title of the thread to make it more obvious...

[Marsgrim]

I think the new motto is fine, it's intended as a selling point to communicate the scale - it actually tells those not familiar with the game that it's massive in scal, I think that's the aim.

[Baneblade]

Shoot, Maim, Kill!

[TeaLeaf]

Size Always Matters is fine. The thing is, PS2 is fairly "generic" if you ignore the scale. That's not a bad thing inherently but the game's motto should should focus on the USP. BF3 and many other games have combined arms warfare and classes and persistance isn't exactly a rare thing in today's shooters.

The only other aspect they could play up is the persistant battlefield but its hard to convey that in a single sentance.

[AxeGaijin]

For Pony!

[berzerkerking]

I didn't even know they changed it. I like the old one better

[Figment]

In 7 pages nobody pointed out the actual motto, or rather, descriptor is:

"Massive combat on an epic scale"

Source: top image of http://www.planetside2.com/

>.>

[Graywolves]

In 7 pages nobody pointed out the actual motto, or rather, descriptor is:

"Massive combat on an epic scale"

Source: top image of http://www.planetside2.com/

>.>

That's not what we're angry about!!!

Don't distract the war path!