View Full Version : Empire Specific Rifles
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 10:11 AM
Just wondering what advantages the pulsar has compared to the gauss and the cycler.
Gauss Advantage = High damage
Cycler Advanage = High rate of fire
Pulsar Advantage = Low recoil
Pulsar Disadvantage = Fire takes longer to get to target
I really wish they'd give us an dev interview showing all the specific disadvantages and advantages of each rifle.
Flameseeker
2003-03-16, 10:17 AM
Pulsar can switch from normal shots to Armor Piercing instantly. Pulsar fires as fast as the others, the Lasher fires slowly. Gauss has farthest range, slower rate of fire, high damage.
Originally posted by Flameseeker
Gauss has farthest range, slower rate of fire, high damage.
I thought it was the opposite.
Zatrais
2003-03-16, 10:41 AM
I doubt a laser will travel anny slower than bullets, i'm guessing the pulsar has a slightly faster speed than the others if annything.
Jebus
2003-03-16, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Flameseeker
Pulsar can switch from normal shots to Armor Piercing instantly. Pulsar fires as fast as the others, the Lasher fires slowly. Gauss has farthest range, slower rate of fire, high damage.
cycler has farther range than gauss and 4x zoom
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 12:37 PM
Where the hell are you getting this shit from? Are you pulling it out of your ass?
Unless theres a dev interview that says this, i don't want to hear made up shit. Someone give me a link to your source.
All it says in the weapons info is that they all have long range capabilities, the cycler is faster firing then the gauss, the gauss does more damage then the cycler, and the pulsar has low recoil. Other then that, if you've watched any of hte videos, the pulsar's projectiles fly slower then the others. You have to lead your target at practically any range with the pulsar. I'd like to know what advantages the pulsar has, if any. I'd also like to see a dev interview on this if any.
Zatrais
2003-03-16, 12:40 PM
In what vid do you see a pulsar firering? Can see the lasher firering in alott of them but can't recall seeing a pulsar firering.
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 01:04 PM
the gamespot vid with the vanu max and the soldier with the pulsar next to him.
Zatrais
2003-03-16, 01:07 PM
Got a filename or a date on when it was released?
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 01:09 PM
Personally i prefer higher damage weapons with a lower rate of fire, to me it's like comparing an mp5 to an m4 in counter strike, except the cycler doesnt have the maneuverability of the mp5 while firing. With an m4, you can be moving alot, then stop for a second and fire off two rounds, move for a second suddenly stop, fire off two more rounds, etc. until the guys dead. Usually first two shots kill him if its a well placed hs... Too bad theres no hs's in planetside, would seperate the noobs from the pros. Don't get me wrong, i don't want 1 shot kills, I'd just want like double the damage of the gun your firing if it's a hs or just some increase in damage. Would seperate the sprayers and the people who actually aim.
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Zatrais
Got a filename or a date on when it was released?
go through the gamespot vids, can't remember which one it is. Don't have them on my comp anymore.
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 01:27 PM
Yeah I was just looking at the pics and now I see that the gauss has a 40 round clip and the cycler has a 50 round clip. http://www.planetside-universe.com/....php?img_id=445
If you look on the bottom of the screen with the picture of the highlighted gauss, you'll see a number 40 below the pic and to the left, and since the gauss is completely highlighted, not just like 1/4 or 1/2 or whatever it means that its fully reloaded, hence the 40 round clip.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/....php?img_id=383
If you look on the bottom with the picture of the highlighted cycler, you'll see a number 50 below hte pic and to the left, and since the cycler is completely highlighted, not just like 1/4 or 1/2 or whatever it means that the clip is full, hence the 50 round clip.
To the left of the cycler pic at the bottom is a pistol pic, it only has 13 rounds left in the clip, hence the pic of the pistol not being fully highlighted.
Nightmare
2003-03-16, 01:38 PM
We'll all find out when we're in the VR room testing out the weapons. What we knew for sure is that the cycler is fastest, gauss is strongest with some zoom, and the pulsar has the least recoil and is probably the most accurate. We don't know anything else for sure.
Jakal
2003-03-16, 01:48 PM
i thought the cycler had the 4x zoom? I gues it would make more sense for the gauss to have it but the wepeans section says the cyclers got it.
simba
2003-03-16, 01:57 PM
Cycler
Source: Terran Republic
Handling: Assault Rifle
Damage: Medium
Maximum Range: Long
Refire Rate: Very Fast
"The Cycler is one of the fastest firing assault rifles. It is equipped with an enhanced magnification up to 4x, allowing it to effectively target distant enemies. It uses a cylinder drum for its ammunition source."
thats exactly what it says anyways.
so jakal ur right about that
Jakal
2003-03-16, 02:02 PM
Yeah i thought so but why would the cycler have it? I mean if it has a fast fire rate it'll have a high recoil right? Most of the shots u shoot at a range where youre going to need the zoom are gonna miss. I think the NC gun should get the zoom and the Tr gun should get a huge ammo base for extended rapid fire.
Venoxile
2003-03-16, 02:14 PM
the tr gun has 10 more rounds per clip then the gauss, and why does it say the cycler is 'one of the fastest firing assault rifles'? Are there any other rifles that fire as fast as the cycler?
Nightmare
2003-03-16, 02:23 PM
I think the mini-chaingun fires faster than the cycler, but I have no way of proving, but I assume it would be fast as shit. You probably won't notice much difference between the other rifles' rate of fire, unless you notice one more bullet being shot every few seconds.
Warborn
2003-03-16, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Zatrais
I doubt a laser will travel anny slower than bullets, i'm guessing the pulsar has a slightly faster speed than the others if annything.
It's not really a laser. It's more like a generic "energy weapon". It doesn't fire light, it fires "energy". So they can fiddle with how fast the "energy stream" or "energy projectile" goes without anyone telling them otherwise, because hey, it's "energy", and if you don't like it, they'll cut you.
Zatrais
2003-03-16, 07:27 PM
Yeah you're right warborn... it could also be a particle cannon, cept they don't leave a beam trace (assuming the pulsar leaves a trail since the quasar does, and the quasar is just a souped up pulsar) so the only real option is a laser...
course thats RL physics so it's a moot point in a game.
i still think it's a laser tho ;)
Prefect
2003-03-17, 01:05 AM
Of course, a laser wouldn't leave a trail unless it passed through dust, fog, smoke, etc. So RL physics says its not a laser either.
A BEAM, on the other hand. Would leave a trail behind. As for the lasers think of the ones on starwars.
Serbitar
2003-03-17, 07:06 AM
just to say a words about starwars and reality: Lasers leave NO trace in open space. NO trace at all. And almost none (at least not visible to the human eye) in air. A Laser which is having a trail is losing energy by particles in the Lasers way doing reflections.(ie smoke, dust . . .)
zMessiahz
2003-03-17, 09:31 AM
It could easily be shooting a ball of plasma. One would have to assume it has some sort of force field (like a magnetic one) that the rifle projects in order to hold the plasma together. Its easy then to think that this containment field is imperfect and particles of plasma expace in small quantities. This could then super heat the air in the immediate vicinity and cause it to "glow". Thus you have your "beam".
NeoTassadar
2003-03-17, 11:44 AM
Or it could be a marker of some luminescent particles carried by the beam, like some people use tracer bullets.
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