Upgrading my graphics card.

[Revelator]

Hey guys, I want to upgrade my graphics because I'm currently running an HD5750, I came across this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500231 I wanted to know your opinion on it, from some of the reviews it has cooling issues, and I'm not sure if my case which has 6 fans on the case is enough, I have a good old standard Intel fan on the CPU. Thoughts? Should I get a better cooling system?

[Mutant]

The HD5750 has a TDP ~ 90 W while the 560Ti is about 210 W. (GTX 570 ~ 220 W)

6 Case fans sounds like enough, but that depends on the actual air flow you are achieving. 6 120x120mm fans set up well to maximize airflow should be more than enough for any non overclocking setup.

Ambient conditions will make quite a difference to the maximum required cooling, is your computer in a nice 23 C Air con room? or is it often in a 40 C + room?

The Intel cooler that came with the CPU are OK but you sure can do better for not a lot of $$.


It would help a lot if you have some numbers for the temperatures you are currently achieving.
If you don't have any software for reading your temp sensors get this;
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/pc-wizard.html

This would be a better card for less $. (So you could buy BF3 and still come quids in)
GTX 570, cores: 480 , 800 MHz Vs GTX 560 Ti, cores: 448, 765 Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162087 or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130620

[Revelator]

I am running at 45C idle at around 36% power to the graphic card fan, I'm sure I could mess around with the fans if i had to.

[Mutant]

What position of measurement is that, seems to be your GPU?

Also any chance of getting some temp under heavy load?

Your PC will throttle back fans to try to maintain a given temperature,
what is important to know is can your PC maintain a reasonable temperature when fully stressed.

The GPU will get hotter, what would be telling is the ability of your case fans to maintain an OK ambient temperature inside your case.

I like to keep my case temp < 40C in a room temp of 22 C.


The GTX 570 has a max temp rating of 97 C.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-570/specifications

An i5 2500K Max temp 100 C.

It would be a good idea to keep all chips below 80 C.

[Vancha]

Just to be clear, those 6 case fans have the front/side ones as intakes and the rear/top ones as exhaust, correct?

[Rbstr]

You'll be fine on cooling. I've got two 120mm fans + the PSU fan with an older i5 (same TDP as a 2500K) and a GTX570. No problems with over heating at all.

Just make sure that you're got fans arranged in a manner that has air flowing through the case. In general you want to have more exhaust volume than intake volume and you want exhaust fans located toward the rear and top of the case.

As long as the chip is operating within it's specifications you don't have anything to worry about. They are specifically engineered to run at those temps.

Don't buy the 560Ti when you can get a 570 for the same price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130620

[Goku]

I don't know why no one asked, but what PSU, resolution, and CPU do you have Revelator?

[Revelator]

What position of measurement is that, seems to be your GPU?

Also any chance of getting some temp under heavy load?

Your PC will throttle back fans to try to maintain a given temperature,
what is important to know is can your PC maintain a reasonable temperature when fully stressed.

The GPU will get hotter, what would be telling is the ability of your case fans to maintain an OK ambient temperature inside your case.

I like to keep my case temp < 40C in a room temp of 22 C.


The GTX 570 has a max temp rating of 97 C.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-570/specifications

An i5 2500K Max temp 100 C.

It would be a good idea to keep all chips below 80 C.

Yes that is my GPU. I will try and stress test it later see if I can get a temp but just going off memory I use to get up to 78C in COD4.

Just to be clear, those 6 case fans have the front/side ones as intakes and the rear/top ones as exhaust, correct?

Yes, this is the case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047 NZXT Tempest

I don't know why no one asked, but what PSU, resolution, and CPU do you have Revelator?

I am running a 950W(CUG 950B I believe) I only run at 1360 x 768(dont think thats an issue) and my CPU is a Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200(this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115055)

[Goku]

570 is a overkill fir that resolution I would go for the 560 ti 384 instead.

[Ailos]

Why so low at 1360x768? (Connected to a projector?)

I would consider going for just a normal 560 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162091) and putting the leftovers to a monitor upgrade (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266). Comes out slightly more expensive, but you'll be able to enjoy more of the eye candy more of the time.

Anything above a 560 Ti won't be much of an improvement in my opinion, since you'll start bottlenecking your CPU.

[Revelator]

Why so low at 1360x768? (Connected to a projector?)

I would consider going for just a normal 560 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162091) and putting the leftovers to a monitor upgrade (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266). Comes out slightly more expensive, but you'll be able to enjoy more of the eye candy more of the time.

Anything above a 560 Ti won't be much of an improvement in my opinion, since you'll start bottlenecking your CPU.

It's a 32in tv that I hooked up to my pc but it lacks resolution even though its 1080p

[Rbstr]

It's a 32in tv that I hooked up to my pc but it lacks resolution even though its 1080p

It's not 1080p if it's 1360x768.
1080p is 1920x1080.

If it really is a 1080p monitor, you should be able to tell your computer to output that resolution.

[Revelator]

It's not 1080p if it's 1360x768.
1080p is 1920x1080.

If it really is a 1080p monitor, you should be able to tell your computer to output that resolution.

Whenever I run my Xbox 360 on it I can run in 1080p(It quite litterally says 1080p in the top right corner), but when I go to change my resolution its max setting is 1360x768.

[Goku]

I have a 32 inch that is only 1360x768 as advertised. However I have the option for 1920x1080 on it the few times I hooked it up to my computer. When I go and put it to that resolution everything looks like shit, so obviously the panel is doing something weird saying it can. Just saying it may say it can do it, but it can't.

Was the the TV actually advertised for 1080P?

[Ailos]

My home projector is advertised as "HD", but reading more carefully tells you it's only 720P. It CAN take in signal for up to 1920x1080, but it has a converter that changes it back to the native 1280x720. But it was never advertised as "Full HD" or "1080P".

It saying "1080p" in a corner could mean that's the signal it is receiving, not what it's actually displaying. I'm guessing you don't have your Xbox connected through HDMI, but through the RGB cable.

[Revelator]

I don't recall it being advertised as 1080p.

I am running with an HDMI cable.

[Ailos]

I don't recall it being advertised as 1080p.

I am running with an HDMI cable.

So then unless you're going to get a new monitor, too, just save the money and get a 560 (or 560 Ti).