so many old outfits? [Archive] - PlanetSide Universe

Krawanan

2012-06-29, 02:02 PM

maradine

2012-06-29, 02:10 PM

It isn't? I've been running with my crew since the 90s.

Jomo

2012-06-29, 02:13 PM

A lot of us just formed some tight knit groups playing PS over the years. A lot of us decided to take it out into different games, different areas of life. Basically, the outfits grew with the members and got to where they are today. I know my outfit has gone into several games since PS and even stepped out into the paintball world and now has a scenario paintball team.

Edit: Geist flew in behind me. The outfit I speak of is BWC

Krawanan

2012-06-29, 02:20 PM

haha that's awesome!

Geist

2012-06-29, 02:21 PM

Hey guys,

i was just curious, how come so many outfits have sticked together for so long?

i see alot of outfits attending to the planetside day which were started in 2003. aren't the teenagers from then grown ups now? or did they give the family business over to there children ; P

also it is not really common for people who met each other over the internet to keep in contact for so long

BWC has been together since before release, around 2002, and although I personally wasn't a part of the BWC back then, many of the officers have stuck around the entire time.

TBH, I think the longer you keep in contact, the harder it is to leave, and it helps a lot if you try to contact each other in RL. BWC has a Paintball Division that anyone is welcome to join, and twice a year they go to a paintball scenario on the east coast(West Point Combat Classic). Everyone is welcome to come and participate, if you have the means to get there, and we get to actually meet the people we talk to on TS.

If anyone is interested, BWC is recruiting: http://www.the-bwc.com/

Haro

2012-06-29, 02:21 PM

Hey guys,

i was just curious, how come so many outfits have sticked together for so long?

i see alot of outfits attending to the planetside day which were started in 2003. aren't the teenagers from then grown ups now? or did they give the family business over to there children ; P

also it is not really common for people who met each other over the internet to keep in contact for so long

It's a couple things, I think. First, Planetside is a very unusual, unique game. A fairly small group of people absolutely love it, faults and all, and stay in for a very long time. If you really like Planetside, you stay in it, because there's no substitute.

Second, outfits are practically necessary. This is something I've noticed getting back into the game for the free play period and playing without an outfit for the first time in years. Outfits offer the coordination, camaraderie, and resources that make Planetside fun. Even if someone loved planetside, I don't think they could really take playing alone for very long. It really puts you at a disadvantage, and keeps you from experiencing the best parts of the game. Hopefully, PS2 improves upon this.

Finally, as PS1's population shrank, a lot of outfits have died out. Those that remain can absorb other people, and the strongest guilds are often very popular because they are large, effective, social, or famous. That popularity in turn can maintain their fame, size, power, etc.

ringring

2012-06-29, 02:29 PM

The other thing is that it's wrong to think computer gamers are only for teenagers. (the non-gaming media do this a lot)

My outfit has a wide range of ages....... and it's not as if people just became older in the outfit, it always has had a range of ages tbh.

Mirax

2012-06-29, 02:32 PM

Planetsides "core" players are of an average age group that I would bet is higher than any other FPS. By this I mean the base is more likely to be mature responsible players that are invested in the game and the people they play it with. Rather than a younger "twitch" gamer who is just looking for the next newb he can smash in whatever game is "best" at the time. Add to this it is a persistent world and arguably less about competition and more about teamwork.

/$.02

Krawanan

2012-06-29, 02:33 PM

It's a couple things, I think. First, Planetside is a very unusual, unique game. A fairly small group of people absolutely love it, faults and all, and stay in for a very long time. If you really like Planetside, you stay in it, because there's no substitute.

Second, outfits are practically necessary. This is something I've noticed getting back into the game for the free play period and playing without an outfit for the first time in years. Outfits offer the coordination, camaraderie, and resources that make Planetside fun. Even if someone loved planetside, I don't think they could really take playing alone for very long. It really puts you at a disadvantage, and keeps you from experiencing the best parts of the game. Hopefully, PS2 improves upon this.

Finally, as PS1's population shrank, a lot of outfits have died out. Those that remain can absorb other people, and the strongest guilds are often very popular because they are large, effective, social, or famous. That popularity in turn can maintain their fame, size, power, etc.

i think this goes for any game, playing with a cordinated team/friends is always more fun since you feel attached to the game then and more important since you are part of something

i hope that in 10 years i can say on these forums: my outfit was made with the release of planetside 2 in 2012, we are attending to planetside 2 day and are looking forward seeing you in the ps 3 beta!

haha

Zar

2012-06-29, 02:40 PM

It isn't? I've been running with my crew since the 90s.

same since i was about 13 built my first rig been running with the same guys some new we found along the way that was 2001 =3. I will say this tho god I hate w2 forms wanna be 13 again not know what taxes are XD.

DirtyBird

2012-06-29, 02:41 PM

AlterElectus hails from Tribes back in the 90's and although people come and go it still has a small core group of originals.
Our youngest member back then was 16 who slipped past our old 18+ rule. He still plays with us today.
We have members offspring gaming with us now and then there is Myr who is known as Methuselah for very good reason.

Planetside was just one of many games along the way but, like Tribes, brings back many memories of good times.
Even after 9yrs we are noticing old faces logging back in to see what we are up to for Planetside 2 and I think that is a great sign for the game.
You wont see us spamming "sanc" for new members but hopefully we pick up a few along the way or form new alliances for years to come.

Atlas

2012-06-29, 03:15 PM

Hey guys,

i was just curious, how come so many outfits have sticked together for so long?

i see alot of outfits attending to the planetside day which were started in 2003. aren't the teenagers from then grown ups now? or did they give the family business over to there children ; P

also it is not really common for people who met each other over the internet to keep in contact for so long

...It's not just Planetside where outfits/communities stick together for so long...

I started playing with an online community (originally SWG) when i was 13...Im 23 and i still play with these guys and girls in games where they have a presence...Some of the members have kids that i've seen baby-scans of, and heard how their first day in primary school went etc.

Basically - If you find a community that 'clicks' with you, you tend to stick with it.

EDIT: I used to get help with my homework during schoolnights so i could help them dungeon run the DWB and 'Vettes, when i was the only maxxed out Combat Medic/Rifleman in the guild at one point :D

Pancake

2012-06-29, 03:21 PM

Though my outfit has only recently been formed for PS2, the gaming community we are a part of has been around since 2004. We really are just a community of like-minded people who share an enjoyment for team based gaming.

Hamma

2012-06-29, 03:22 PM

My outfit was established before PS1 I've been with them over 10 years now.

TheApoc

2012-06-29, 03:42 PM

yea some of my friends are way older than ps1, i would say mid 90s.. not many of us left but a few for sure.. Ive seen some of my guys go from not even driving to wife & kids.

a couple of us started out with total annihilation, old school

vVRedOctoberVv

2012-06-29, 04:00 PM

Some of the folks I met online years ago I still talk to... Even though we no longer play games together. People/outfits stick around for the same reason any other group of people hangs together... They like each other.

Note: TRG seems a good bunch of coconuts, for example.

kertvon

2012-06-29, 04:37 PM

No disrespect at all to the OP, but questions like these make me worry a bit about the community in PS2. I will stay optimistic as PS has always had a great community, but when did online gaming become more about being the best than connecting with other people that you enjoy playing games with. I played FFXI with a group online for about 2 years and it was one of the hardest things for me to say goodbye.

To answer the question as to why... Good online communities are like families, and most people will do what they have to do to keep those friendships.

Krawanan

2012-06-29, 04:58 PM

I understand your concern, but i think i dont ever found a community that good, the longest i stayed with a community was a year and that was with cod 1. I hope that planetside will give me some nice buds to play with :)

But great stories here, shows another great part about online gaming :)

Sephirex

2012-06-29, 05:09 PM

but when did online gaming become more about being the best than connecting with other people that you enjoy playing games with.

Back when developers rose their flag against dedicated servers, banishing players to 15 minute match-ups and then never seeing each other again.

Aldman

2012-06-29, 05:49 PM

Well, Sturmgrenadier started in the early days of WWIIOL beta and we've remained focused on playing games with persistent worlds in all of the time since then. I think that this is true of most of the old outfits. There's a lot of large gaming groups that have focused on games like EvE online, WWIIOL, WOT, etc, etc.

On a side note, we weren't a bunch of teenagers back then, and we still aren't. Funny how that happens.

maradine

2012-06-29, 06:02 PM

On a side note, we weren't a bunch of teenagers back then, and we still aren't. Funny how that happens.

I'd be worried if you weren't a bunch of teenagers back then, but now you are. Easy on the kombucha and mud baths, mate.

Wait a tic . . . screw that, hook me up.

Soyokaze

2012-06-29, 07:17 PM

Like everyone's said: community. You end up spending hours upon hours with the same people, and NOT like in other MMOs. It's hard to explain, but suffice to say PS is my fav PC game of al time PURELY because of those social interactions.

Maybe part of it is the scale. I don't care how pro you are. 1 man can not stand alone against the kinds of #s one sees in even PS1. You NEED teamwork, and not just a small insular group, but a larger, inevitably diverse, community - within outfits let alone the larger game.

Shinjorai

2012-06-29, 08:29 PM

I didnt really play ps1 but some in the reserve program back in the day, but I have a group ive been gaming with since 2007 who im bringing into the game with me, we joined a what i hope is a great old outfit. And im really looking forward to the spirit of community you guys are talking about. It may sound strange but im more excited about that aspect of the game than all the technical marvels and the feat of fitting 6000 people onto one server.

Im 37 years old have teenage kids so im way past that teenage age group you were mentioning OP. I remember playing games like utlima online, and my very first online shooter unreal 2 XMP. Not unreal tournament, it was a free multiplayer addon. Best game ever for its time in my book. Played it for years. Met some really great people during that then went through a dryspell with gaming and 2007 hits with the release of enemy territory quakewars, thats where i met my current group of gaming friends. Weve played numerous games through the years including COD, Battlefield, some mmorpgs, and its just really awesome having those friends to go into a game with. That feeling of teamwork and comeraderie is unmatched.

Im hoping PS2 brings back some of the old school teamwork aspects that team based multiplayer shooters used to be about. Like somebody said now adays it only seems to be about proving youre the best of the best. It was kindve like that a few years back but people genuinely cared about teamwork and comeraderie too. The thing is when everybody in the game has that kindve mentality the game community suffers and you get what Cod and BF's communities have devolved into today. A bunch of trash talking potty mouth angry internet tough guys who dont give a damn about teamwork or any of that stuff i mentioned above. Basically im trying to say I hope planetside keeps it oldschool somewhat and keeps it about teamwork and fun. I think the way the game is designed itll promote that, and all those lonewolfs will find themselves wanting if they try to play this game like that. For that im thankful.

Mr DeCastellac

2012-06-30, 12:29 AM

Hey guys,

i was just curious, how come so many outfits have sticked together for so long?

i see alot of outfits attending to the planetside day which were started in 2003. aren't the teenagers from then grown ups now? or did they give the family business over to there children ; P

also it is not really common for people who met each other over the internet to keep in contact for so long

As a grammar/spelling nazi, I'm kind of irritated by this post. Allow me to correct some things:

"Hey guys,

I was just curious why so many outfits have stuck together for so long?

I see a lot of the outfits that are attending Planetside Day were started in 2003. Aren't the teenagers from then grown-ups now? Maybe they gave the family business over to their children. ;P

Also, it is not very common for people who met each other over the internet to keep in contact for so long."

I know people hate being corrected or seeing someone correct others, but hey, I'm making the world a better place. One post at a time.

maradine

2012-06-30, 01:47 AM

I ask this out of curiosity, with no implied malice of any kind -

Was that actually the most valuable thing you could contribute to this thread?

Soyokaze

2012-06-30, 02:09 AM

As a [...] nazi

:huh:

Mr DeCastellac

2012-06-30, 02:31 AM

I ask this out of curiosity, with no implied malice of any kind -

Was that actually the most valuable thing you could contribute to this thread?

What exactly was I expected to say? The op didn't specify any specific question except "How many old outfits are sill around?" I didn't, nor am I going to, count how many outfits from 2003 are still active today.

Either I correct some grammar/spelling, or I don't post at all. Though you may not understand this, helping others improve their skills is more productive than ignoring them.

Krawanan

2012-06-30, 02:37 AM

As a grammar/spelling nazi, I'm kind of irritated by this post. Allow me to correct some things:

"Hey guys,

I was just curious why so many outfits have stuck together for so long?

I see a lot of the outfits that are attending Planetside Day were started in 2003. Aren't the teenagers from then grown-ups now? Maybe they gave the family business over to their children. ;P

Also, it is not very common for people who met each other over the internet to keep in contact for so long."

I know people hate being corrected or seeing someone correct others, but hey, I'm making the world a better place. One post at a time.

I really don't understand why people do this, I am doing my best to start a discussion here and to get a question answered that i'm interested in(while english is not my native language and i'm fairly young) think about it as that you had to learn a foreign language as a teenager.

And also, my DOTA 2 match was starting in 20 seconds so i had to type it really fast :P

But anyways, if you don't have anything usefull to contribute to this thread, please don't say anything at all.
If you do, i'm happy to hear your opinion on this.

PS. is this good enough for Mr. Grammar Nazi?

Mr DeCastellac

2012-06-30, 02:48 AM

I really don't understand why people do this, I am doing my best to start a discussion here and to get a question answered that i'm interested in(while english is not my native language and i'm fairly young) think about it as that you had to learn a foreign language as a teenager.

And also, my DOTA 2 match was starting in 20 seconds so i had to type it really fast :P

But anyways, if you don't have anything usefull to contribute to this thread, please don't say anything at all.
If you do, i'm happy to hear your opinion on this.

PS. is this good enough for Mr. Grammar Nazi?

'Usefull' should only have one L. Oop, bad DeCastellac! *hits self with rolled up newspaper*

Anyways, I apologize, as I didn't realize English wasn't your natural tongue.

I did have to learn a foreign language as a teenager, and I understand it can be difficult. My bad.

Krawanan

2012-06-30, 02:50 AM

What exactly was I expected to say? The op didn't specify any specific question except "How many old outfits are sill around?" I didn't, nor am I going to, count how many outfits from 2003 are still active today.

Either I correct some grammar/spelling, or I don't post at all. Though you may not understand this, helping others improve their skills is more productive than ignoring them.

I understand what you were trying to do, but it didn't come over as really nice.
For the sticked=stuck issue, I should have known that ;) but it are those verbs that are pretty hard to do right when a language is not your native language. But then again, I'm adjusting myself to your language, i would like to see you speak mine, or at least i expect not someone to say he gets irritated by me while I'm trying to do my best.

'Usefull' should only have one L. Oop, bad DeCastellac! *hits self with rolled up newspaper*

Anyways, I apologize, as I didn't realize English wasn't your natural tongue.
I did have to learn a foreign language as a teenager, and I understand it can be difficult. My bad.
Ok, no hard feelings ;)

I can kinda understand that you guys get irritated by all those 'privates'. But i know alot more of planetside/planetside 2 than the average newcomer. I had played the original planetside for a few months also, but never got involved in an outfit/community since my english was not good enough back then, and I hadn't heard about this forum until recently.

But hey, without us planetside 2 would be empty right?

SergeantNubins

2012-06-30, 05:32 AM

Planetside encpuraged such team play mentality and so much time spent gibbering away to eah other on teamspeak that I think if you are were in a decent outfit it would be impossible not to form long lasting bonds with the others in it.

You often see in films about soldiers that "band of brothers" mentality. Whilst im not pretending that PS is anything like a real combat experience, so far its the closest most of us will ever get to experiencing it. My outfit started as a group of randoms who happened to be squadded on the day of release, the squad leader invited everyone to an outfit he was making called nordic assualt (he actually spelled it that way and we had to wait about a month for the CSR's to be able to correct his spelling). It wasn;t meant to be serious but we kept playing together, the numbers grew and whilst not everyone stayed, those at the core never left and are still good friends to this day (holding yearly meet ups as well).

Once you spend a lot of time doing galaxy hotdrops, holding a cc/gen or rushing to resecure as a team, relying totally on your team mates to make things happen.. when they are always there for you and you can always rely on them.. it just makes you close to them. Much closer than in any other game ive played. Everyone in our outfit was advanced med+engineer, so you got used to them picking you up and dusting you off when you went down, you got used to one of them always being in the right place at the right time with the galaxy ready to load up, and you got used to hurling yourself out of that galaxy into the maelstrom below, with your buddies landing next to you. Its a unique experience.

ComerEste

2012-06-30, 02:17 PM

I have been friends with the core group of guys from LiquidForce since we created it in 2004. We we're a part of Digital Marines before that went south. The bond that was formed is similar to the bonds formed during wartime with soldiers in the trenches with each other. We could depend on one another to get the job done. It was a very tight knit community that I have only experienced one other time in my MMO experiences. Which was in WoW with a guild called Team B on Bloodhoof during the old honor system days trying for High Warlord. I got up to Lt. General before they took the system out.

It's also the outfit rivalries that were instilled into us all. To this day, we curse those speed hacking SoB's in the NC outfit Serious Gamers. You bastards can go to hell!:D

WaryWizard

2012-06-30, 04:18 PM

It isn't? I've been running with my crew since the 90s.

My comment is pointless (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BJ0xBCwkg3E#t=61s)

maradine

2012-06-30, 04:40 PM

My comment is pointless (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BJ0xBCwkg3E#t=61s)

Inasmuch as you consider good faith, anecdotal counterpoints to generalizations pointless, yes - completely.

edit: lol, priceless.

Electrofreak

2012-06-30, 10:33 PM

Even after I stopped playing PS1 regularly, I went on to play alongside many of my PS1 friends in other games, like EVE Online.

Lets see:

CDLHamma
CDLPeacemaker
CDLMarsman
CDLBlack
Sobekeus
SecondRaven
Rbstr
xmodum
xnerd
QuakCow
1024
Sentrosi
Everay
EiinE
Infernus
Jaged
Corrosion
Chronosphere
DHoff
Shootx
ShadowRhino

...and even Dharkbayne, though killing him was more my intent.

I may have even forgotten a few. Some I played alongside in PS, some I just knew from this forum. Many have just kind of disappeared over the years, and I'd love to see their names pop back up again in PS2. :)

Was_Ash_Emerald

2012-07-01, 06:23 PM

I'm way too much of a curmudgeon to last in any outfit/clan, but I've been playing video games since the original 1977 Atari.

Heck, AARP will be sending me an invite pretty soon.

Seriously.

maradine

2012-07-01, 07:42 PM

Heck, AARP will be sending me an invite pretty soon.

Seriously.

Fry: Professor, when did you become so obsessed with voting?
Professor Farnsworth: The very instant I became old.

SKYeXile

2012-07-01, 07:44 PM

Satch

2012-07-01, 07:46 PM

Yeh, mid 90s aswell for alot of my crew. Loads of real solid bonds are formed over the net, playing games 2getha and getting 2 know one another through teamspeak etc. My original Team fortress classic friends are still with me and we have played so many FPS games together as a team we are now really good as we all know eachother and how eachother plays inside and out which makes tactics very fluid and easy :)

MooK

2012-07-02, 12:37 AM

I don't know if I'll be able to find a veteran outfit that can put up with me. Lul.

My old outfit, while some of us are still in communication, started to break apart after WoW. That game is a killer, I would never recommend it.

SG Gonad

2012-07-02, 01:39 AM

Well my outfit, Sturmgrenadier has gone far beyond the bond of gaming together. We have had several real life gatherings. We have many people that have become close friends. We have had many members, myself included, share very real, very emotional real life issues on our boards seeking advice.

It really has become a family.

KiddParK

2012-07-02, 10:58 AM

I'm way too much of a curmudgeon to last in any outfit/clan, but I've been playing video games since the original 1977 Atari.

Heck, AARP will be sending me an invite pretty soon.

Seriously.

likewise... I remember typing in code from C O M P U T E mag to get to play a game on the Commodore 64... good times.. well, not really. Mostly annoying times when you messed up one line of an if/then statement

I've played on and off with the same group of people for a decade now. And before that i was with the same crew for 5 yrs. And it's odd, you hang with someone every day on line, then one day you don't.. and never see them again... or catch up years and years later.

Planetside feeds outfit loyalty with faction loyalty and people are just crazy about it. Also it's such a friendly community it seems.