reaver landing gear [Archive] - PlanetSide Universe

Ainte

2012-06-30, 07:08 AM

http://i49.tinypic.com/162bsl.jpghttp://i50.tinypic.com/5apegk.jpg
Check this footage: 0:51:30 0:56:33 1:08:50
Planetside 2 - Dual Commentary Livestream with Matt Higby and TotalBiscuit - YouTube
landed reaver looks totally unnatural, like it just deny the laws of physics,
devs just cant be serious with this type of design,
first iteration of reaver where far more pleasing to the eye with its tail pointed down(it make sense for the landing purposes),
i really hope they change it somehow...

Otleaz

2012-06-30, 07:13 AM

It only looks likes like it defies physics. It is actually extraordinarily front heavy. The back is pretty much made of paper.

Ainte

2012-06-30, 07:19 AM

It only likes like it defies physics. It is actually extraordinarily front heavy. The back is pretty much made of paper.
but what about weather conditions, surface angle etc, this design is just ridicilous

Lorgarn

2012-06-30, 07:21 AM

I actually agree with Ainte, it doesn't look right. While the tail of the Reaver is indeed thin, that's not really where the problem lies. If you look closely, the bulk of the reaver actually looks to be behind the cockpit.

This feels a bit more realistic, in my uneducated opinion.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x357/Lorgarn/reaverBulk.png

Canaris

2012-06-30, 07:23 AM

what do you expect from NC engineers
"Do you think we should make this thing stable to land on?"
"Nah, chances are none will make it back for a safe landing so I wouldn't bother"
"Fair enough"

lol ;)

ChipMHazard

2012-06-30, 07:30 AM

FPClark

2012-06-30, 07:30 AM

pretty sure its based off the AH-64 which has a wheel on its tail haha

Hmuda

2012-06-30, 07:40 AM

Or...*gasp*...it's an unfinished model.

It's not even E3 footage. I'm fairly sure they just didn't add the skid on the back yet.

EvilNinjadude

2012-06-30, 07:40 AM

I like the way Lorgarn drew it. Just put the landing gear where he put it, and it'll be fine.

Chowley

2012-06-30, 09:01 AM

pretty sure its based off the AH-64 which has a wheel on its tail haha

It actually reminds me a lot more of the Cobra (dont know the model number) I think its the shape of the cockpit. That actually really draws me to NC :p

Hmr85

2012-06-30, 09:05 AM

It actually reminds me a lot more of the Cobra (dont know the model number) I think its the shape of the cockpit. That actually really draws me to NC :p

I agree, and it looks like the AH-1W Super Cobra from the side to me.

http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo77/Hmr85/AH-1W-Super-Cobra-helicopter-028preview.jpg

Chowley

2012-06-30, 09:09 AM

Ya thats the bugger.
Ya the central part is very alike too, its like those vent thingys have been turned vertical on the Reaver instead of horizontal :D I love you Reaver/New Cobra

EvilNinjadude

2012-06-30, 09:28 AM

That's because the Reaver is not a chopper. What was vents on a cobra is actually the thrusters on the Reaver. Why? It's a VTOL craft. Gotta have rotating thrusters!

Pyreal

2012-06-30, 10:38 AM

Is that Reaver riding a chicken?

gufftroad

2012-06-30, 10:56 AM

The NC don't have to be oppressed by your "Physics" or "Laws of gravity" these are just made up to keep us docile

FINALCUT

2012-06-30, 11:42 AM

FastAndFree

2012-06-30, 12:37 PM

Fingers crossed that Scythe has no landing gear.

Everything must hover. EVERYTHING.

I asked Tray about this way back, he said something along the lines of "Don't worry man I got this"

Solidblock

2012-06-30, 02:56 PM

Typical T-Ray response haha!

Xyntech

2012-06-30, 04:33 PM

Bonus points if I can ride the Scythe around on the ground lake a Magrider while it's in in landing mode.

SixShooter

2012-06-30, 04:36 PM

:rofl::rofl:I asked Tray about this way back, he said something along the lines of "Don't worry man I got this":rofl::rofl:

That's just awesome.

MrKWalmsley

2012-06-30, 05:23 PM

Maybe the pull of gravity is less on Auraxis then it is on Earth. Therefor the vehicle is able to keep its ass off the ground even though it is not balanced. Think about it,does the Galaxy really look like it would ever get off the ground in normal Earth Gravity?

Either that,or when they are about to land some dude comes out and throws a chock block under the tail.lol.

Maybe they have mid air refueling from a Galaxy available so they never need to land.:lol:

Seriously? The sheer lack of gravity required to make that thing physically capable of standing would be VERY noticeable. Debris would fall far slower, drop times would be pathetically dragging, and bullet drop would practically no longer be a problem besides absolutely extreme ranges. And yeah, the galaxy does look like it's capable of flying, considering it's innards are hollow to fit troops and MAXs inside!

Murkie

2012-06-30, 06:00 PM

I don't know how accurate the video on youtube is now but that clearly shows the tail of the Reaver doubling as the part of the tricycle landing gear

47 secs in -

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dBwCE3EtUVs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Nemises

2012-06-30, 06:19 PM

yep, looks like there is a mini skid on the tail..

PS, you fools are just jealous...NC have BY FAR the coolest gear :P
-Reaver (basically a hybrid AH64 / Aliens dropship ;))
-Vanguard
-NC Max (Basically a hybrid Tractor / Power armour)

I think the Reaver looks BAD ASS

FINALCUT

2012-06-30, 08:54 PM

Seriously? The sheer lack of gravity required to make that thing physically capable of standing would be VERY noticeable. Debris would fall far slower, drop times would be pathetically dragging, and bullet drop would practically no longer be a problem besides absolutely extreme ranges. And yeah, the galaxy does look like it's capable of flying, considering it's innards are hollow to fit troops and MAXs inside!

Yea, I was making some comedy there about the gravity,but you gotta admit,the Galaxy does look like a flying cow.:lol:

Vexus

2012-06-30, 09:16 PM

I think the Reaver looks badass too. In fact, I much prefer the tail up without the tail skid. If physics bugs ya, just move the location of the two bird-feet landing gear slightly towards the rear and find a balance point.

Sheesh, when one faction gets 100% hovering tanks and jets with inertial dampeners, why would you quibble with a badass looking model for the faction of leftover & experimental parts/crafts. Lots of experimental craft have crazy looks.

RSphil

2012-06-30, 10:40 PM

id say they are still tweeking the looks. dont forget the tail has not long been moded to be ontop. if you remember all the old pics of the reaver had the tail below which would have acted as a tail support. id say they will move the landing gear so it is in the center of gravity. all work in progress peeps :)

Pancake

2012-06-30, 11:03 PM

I don't know how accurate the video on youtube is now but that clearly shows the tail of the Reaver doubling as the part of the tricycle landing gear

This video is from last year. The OP noticed a recent change to the design of the tail piece.

I personally think the under-slung vertical stabilizer looked cooler and more futuristic. Why revert to a conventional design in a sci-fi game?

RSphil

2012-06-30, 11:43 PM

This video is from last year. The OP noticed a recent change to the design of the tail piece.

I personally think the under-slung vertical stabilizer looked cooler and more futuristic. Why revert to a conventional design in a sci-fi game?

this is true. i made a thread about this a few weeks back after noticing the change. i actually liked it how it was better. made more sense and looked far better. not really sure why they changed it. could be a question to ask on the next auraxis show which is soon :)

Ainte

2012-07-01, 03:47 AM

this is true. i made a thread about this a few weeks back after noticing the change. i actually liked it how it was better. made more sense and looked far better. not really sure why they changed it. could be a question to ask on the next auraxis show which is soon :)

I really want them to revert all those changes, but it seems like lots of people here actually like current design:confused: so maybe just add old reaver as a skin so i can totally buy it.

Nemises

2012-07-01, 05:16 AM

...well, its a model, not a skin, so unlikely..

if you check out a Huey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_UH-1_Iroquois) , you'll see a configuration with skids and no tail castor / skid..

admitedly the skids are WAAY bigger, but we don't know the weight distribution of the Reaver yet, and besides, I trust the awesome SOE designers / artists (@tray) to do and awesome job of making the reaver look like a flying piece of hurt as it should

MrKWalmsley

2012-07-03, 09:15 AM

Yea, I was making some comedy there about the gravity,but you gotta admit,the Galaxy does look like a flying cow.:lol:

Yeah but if you look at the size of the verticle thrusters on the Harrier compared to it's size (bearing in mind the harrier is not nearly as hollow as the Gal) it's clear that the Gals thrusters are powerful enough to lift that thing even in 1g!

Brusi

2012-07-03, 09:25 AM

pretty sure its based off the AH-64 which has a wheel on its tail haha

It looks heaps like an ah64, and as far as I'm concerned, as long as it doesn't look like it has poor physics when it's animated, then it's perfect! It looks really cool! Although the upside down tail did really give it its own unique look...

I.m sure when it its animated landing, the hydrolics will give a little, and it will look realistic :)

disky

2012-07-03, 12:22 PM

I liked the stabilizer the way it was. I hope they bring it back.

Pancake

2012-07-03, 12:34 PM

The problem is that the new, more conventional tail design is way too modern (not futuristic) and gives the impression that the Reaver is similar to an attack helicopter.

In reality, the Reaver and the other air vehicles in its class function more like fighter jets (F-16) and attack aircraft (A-10) depending on their loadout.

Purple

2012-07-03, 12:43 PM

you guys are forgetting the awesome factor of all NC logos.

kertvon

2012-07-03, 12:44 PM

Makes me wonder what the depth of the physx engine provides. wouldn't they have to essentially make every object in the world in relation to how physx would handle it? I don't really know the inner workings, but I assume they can pick and choose who/what/when/where/how physx acts on ingame objects. If that is the case, and the physx engine let the reaver stand with the current design, then Nvidia just blew all of our minds...

+1 for the vid showing the tail support. Where is it in the recent vids though...?

yuxin

2012-07-03, 02:11 PM

I have an explanation, it's a bit of a stretch..
The vehicles in planetside are all produced by nanites. Therefore they are made, sent into combat, destroyed or disassembled by nanites again. It is also apparent that fuel is not a problem for these vehicles. It must be some sort of fuel (nuclear?) that last long enough to not to be a limiting factor.
Therefore, I think the Reavers may just leave the engine on for the entire service duration. In this case, the tail support isn't necessary.

tl;dr: Reavers never turn their engines off, no need for tail support.