Mission Impossible Pilots? [Archive]

Otleaz

2012-07-02, 09:14 AM

Lol. Is it this? That guy had to do a bunch of attempts to just get those shots. Thats skill. I'm fine with this being in game.

That is skill, yes; but what about the other player? He is trying to shoot a jet down and all the sudden a guy teleports out of the jet and immediately kills him. What could he have done to avoid that?

You would be hard pressed to find a similar situation in any other aspect of the game.

Goku

2012-07-02, 09:15 AM

Given the probability of some attempting this and then pulling it off is pretty slim IMO. That is more then enough. Was it confirmed you can kill people like that in PS2 yet?

Otleaz

2012-07-02, 09:19 AM

Given the probability of some attempting this and then pulling it off is pretty slim IMO. That is more then enough. Was it confirmed you can kill people like that in PS2 yet?

No, I don't think so.

I don't really care either way about this topic since it would be rare, but figured it would be worth pointing out that every encounter involves at least two people. The loser should always be able to ask himself what he did wrong and come up with a solution.

Goku

2012-07-02, 09:23 AM

Yes I know, just one of those rare instances you can't I guess. But yeah this entirely depends on killing people in vehicles already.

Mirror

2012-07-02, 09:32 AM

since you could only get back in a friendly plane I honestly dont see what the problem is.

now 2 friendlies hot swapping planes while taking something down would be a sight to see.

roguy

2012-07-02, 09:33 AM

The loser should always be able to ask himself what he did wrong and come up with a solution.

While i disagree considering the amount of skills and risk involved, its not like you'll be able to bail out of your reaver > snipe scythe pilot > hack his aircraft in mid air > enter scythe anyway. So the subject is moot.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 09:37 AM

I dont believe its going to be possible in PS2. It will be fun bailing out of my reaver and sliding into a friendly galaxy in mid flight.

DOUBLEXBAUGH

2012-07-02, 09:42 AM

Should have used this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI&feature=player_embedded

or this as examples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-wFI9vTqto

We saw in the E3 footage that atm it is possible to exit and enter a moving plane, and with them being made of paper this time, those could be possible in PS2.

Goku

2012-07-02, 09:42 AM

since you could only get back in a friendly plane I honestly dont see what the problem is.

now 2 friendlies hot swapping planes while taking something down would be a sight to see.

Yeah...I can't believe we missed this lol.

Pyreal

2012-07-02, 09:45 AM

When you bail you shouldn't have a weapon out.

ChipMHazard

2012-07-02, 09:48 AM

While i disagree considering the amount of skills and risk involved, its not like you'll be able to bail out of your reaver > snipe scythe pilot > hack his aircraft in mid air > enter scythe anyway. So the subject is moot.

Aye it just seem like a rather pointless thing to do in PS2, so I don't personally care either way.

Littleman

2012-07-02, 09:51 AM

I really hope the devs make this impossible. I can imagine a lot of cheap maneuvers beyond hopping out, firing a rocket, and ducking back inside. Boarding a gal while it skirts the earth at full speed. Or heck, boarding a tank as it whizzes on by.

I don't think we can call for E/E animations if we don't require vehicles to come to a damn near crawl as the fastest speed before one can enter the craft. There's a difference between skill, and bull-$#!%. These videos display people dancing on the edge of that difference.

Oryon22

2012-07-02, 10:02 AM

If you equip your aircraft with the ability to eject, then you should not have your weapons drawn, nor be able to hop in the seat of another vehicle. It's kind of a bullshit move.

IgloGlass

2012-07-02, 10:05 AM

Since it would require so much skill to pull of succesfully I'd really want to see it in game. Not because I would try to do it myself - Okay maybe a few times - but because it would be so awesome to shoot down the people that try doing it and ultimately fail at it.

I'm probably going to play Light Assault which means lots of flying for me. If I ever encounter this and kill the guy who's trying to do it mid-air then I would literally scream at my monitor out of pure joy!

xSquirtle

2012-07-02, 10:08 AM

I think something like this should be rewarded! The luck and skill involved is astounding. Chances of people doing this on a regular bases and being successful, are really low.

kertvon

2012-07-02, 10:13 AM

I think it's lame. I know its a game and all so not EVERYTHING should be realistic, but really... I certainly hope the devs are concerned about making a bit more of a combat sim than following suit with silly stuff like the jet exit, rpg, jet enter. Yea it takes skill I suppose, but just... no.

Satch

2012-07-02, 10:15 AM

At the end of the day, im not worried. If I was playing PS2 and flying after somone trying to kill them and they did that to me, i would totaly take it on the chin, give them around of applause, respawn and carry on. Kudos to somone who kills me like that :)

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 10:20 AM

We need a poll asking whether or not we need more polls.

DOUBLEXBAUGH

2012-07-02, 10:24 AM

I think there was one and Goku closed it... we need a poll about goku closing threads!

Littleman

2012-07-02, 10:28 AM

Oryon22

2012-07-02, 10:39 AM

I think there was one and Goku closed it... we need a poll about goku closing threads!

Hahaha

Geist

2012-07-02, 10:43 AM

I dont believe its going to be possible in PS2. It will be fun bailing out of my reaver and sliding into a friendly galaxy in mid flight.

Miss your Gal? Not to worry! With Nanite Systems patented mid-air entry system, you no longer have to worry about missing your flight. :D

Seriously, with the level of skill it takes, I don't care and actually respect the people who are able to do it.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 10:43 AM

I think the bigger concern would be those that won't take this kind of maneuver very well. It's one thing for the enemy pilot to bail because you're successfully tailing and shooting down his craft, but he denies you the kill because he bailed. It's another when he both denies you the kill and successfully shoots you down in return before going splat. You need only look at Planetside 1 to realize this is a common frustration among pilots. I know PS2 plays fairly differently, but the concept of winning the dogfight but going down to the pilot remains the same.

Really, I just don't think it should be possible to enter or exit any vehicle without a fitted apparatus (ejection seat) unless it has come to a halt. Even then, the ejection seat should make it impossible to draw a weapon until touch down.

If you bail out as a LA you should have your weapon drawn because you are still capable of powered flight. Plus it should take almost fourteen seconds to hit the ground if you fall from 3000 feet http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_to_fall_3000_feet. Thats plenty of time for a HA to pull out a weapon and start blasting away. You really need to consider this wouldnt ever happen irl but this is on a planet where all of the combatants can never truly die. If there is one thing that would keep a guy cool while he is hurtling to the ground to certain death is that he will be back in good shape in thirty seconds.

Geist

2012-07-02, 10:50 AM

If you bail out as a LA you should have your weapon drawn because you are still capable of powered flight.

Ya, TBH a light assault with a jump pack is a much more believable candidate for killing someone mid-flight then a BF3 pilot. At least a LA is used to fighting mid-air.

Seagoon

2012-07-02, 10:53 AM

Just as long as PS2 dogfights do not devolve into people just bailing the second they get someone on their tail to avoid giving them the kill then its fine.

ChipMHazard

2012-07-02, 10:56 AM

Just as long as PS2 dogfights do not devolve into people just bailing the second they get someone on their tail to avoid giving them the kill then its fine.

Well you will be able to do that anyway. There's nothing, as of yet, preventing you from jumping out of your aircraft, it's getting in again that's the topic:D

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 11:04 AM

If someone bails you should get full value for killing them and there airplane. Double xp for shooting them out of the sky after they have bailed.

kadrin

2012-07-02, 11:26 AM

I just see this happening.

Battlefield 3: Don***39;t need no damn plane to dogfight - YouTube

Pretty easy to pull off.

Mirax

2012-07-02, 11:32 AM

Personally I feel that jet hopping or even shooting people out of jets is a bug and or exploit and IMHO the only way to get out of a moving fast mover should be ejection seat and you don't get a rifle or weapon to come up till you hit the ground. In PS I think the only way out should be the Alt-G way unless you're landed and not moving.

Also, isn't there vehicle entry/exit delay in PS2? I thought I saw this dicussed somewhere...

/$.02

Luieburger

2012-07-02, 11:34 AM

This doesn't happen all that often in BF3, but it should never happen in PS2. It's funny and cute and what not, but it doesn't fit in PS2.

Geist

2012-07-02, 11:37 AM

I just see this happening.

Battlefield 3: Don't need no damn plane to dogfight - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJurYPXA_uw)

Pretty easy to pull off.

Except in PS2 only HA get missile launchers and I don't think they'll be able to pilot aircraft.

Canaris

2012-07-02, 11:39 AM

I like to think of these BF3 videos as exactly what not to have in PS2 :D

kadrin

2012-07-02, 11:39 AM

Except in PS2 only HA get missile launchers and I don't think they'll be able to pilot aircraft.

Currently only MAXs cannot use vehicles. But we'll see what gets changed in beta.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 11:40 AM

Except in PS2 only HA get missile launchers and I don't think they'll be able to pilot aircraft.

The HA missile launcher seems pretty ineffective. Just so long as I get exp for destroying the plane and get xp for killing the pilot when he bails then Im ok with everything else.

Poser

2012-07-02, 11:40 AM

since you could only get back in a friendly plane I honestly dont see what the problem is.

now 2 friendlies hot swapping planes while taking something down would be a sight to see.

I'd pay to watch that!

Littleman

2012-07-02, 11:45 AM

If you bail out as a LA you should have your weapon drawn because you are still capable of powered flight. Plus it should take almost fourteen seconds to hit the ground if you fall from 3000 feet http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_to_fall_3000_feet. Thats plenty of time for a HA to pull out a weapon and start blasting away. You really need to consider this wouldnt ever happen irl but this is on a planet where all of the combatants can never truly die. If there is one thing that would keep a guy cool while he is hurtling to the ground to certain death is that he will be back in good shape in thirty seconds.

Lol, I'll give you most of that truth, but I won't give you the 3000 feet thing. Barring virtual metrics, our "continents" ARE only 64km². Our moon is MUCH bigger even with 10 continents (contrast 640km² + oceans vs roughly 37,000,000km².) Realistically, we should be floating away, or merely bumping into a tank sends it flying. Firing our gun should send us into orbit after the first round. Never mind safely taking a step forward.

If you're going to bring in realism, I'm gonna fight fire with fire!

Though it's a game, so we can let the existence of Earth-like gravity slide. I still see the bail>rocket>re-enter act as something closer to a dick-move that few will really learn to appreciate.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 11:50 AM

Lol, I'll give you most of that truth, but I won't give you the 3000 feet thing. Barring virtual metrics, our "continents" ARE only 64km². Our moon is MUCH bigger even with 10 continents (contrast 640km² + oceans vs roughly 37,000,000km².) Realistically, we should be floating away, or merely bumping into a tank sends it flying. Firing our gun should send us into orbit after the first round. Never mind safely taking a step forward.

If you're going to bring in realism, I'm gonna fight fire with fire!

Though it's a game, so we can let the existence of Earth-like gravity slide. I still see the act as something closer to a dick-move that few will really learn to appreciate.

We had this really nice discussion going on about how Auraxis is really a moon, will have to dig up the link... Anyways its my opinion that Auraxis has an artificial earthlike gravity offsetting the lack of mass on our lil old planetoid. Of course I dont know if the gaming environment has the same gravity as earths if its less then it would take longer to fall from the 3000 foot flight ceiling.

Sabot

2012-07-02, 11:52 AM

Please nerf this game more, I don't want anything that's fun to happen. It needs to be a military simulator so geriatrics can keep up too.

Ironicly, if it was a pure simulator, it'd be the hardest game you've ever played.. ;P

I do agree with you though on the point of keeping the game fun. Doing stunts like this is fun. This is an extreme tbh, but if you pull it off (or indeed have it happen to you), you can't do anything but applause either yourself or the dude who did it.

Xaine

2012-07-02, 12:02 PM

I think I'd rather to wasn't in the game.

But if it is, not too bothered.

Anderz

2012-07-02, 12:02 PM

Why inhibit amazing one-in-a-million moments from happening? This is hardly an gameplay breaking situation. You guys are spoilsports.

zomg

2012-07-02, 12:08 PM

I can't believe it that people actually get annoyed by something like this...

Seagoon

2012-07-02, 12:09 PM

This specific stunt is not annoying, its rather based on luck.

But being able to consistantly bail and fire guided missiles like that other vid would be very annoying, why should the winner of the dogfight be the one at a disadvantage?

Also the whole denying the winner the reward is kind of annoying too, just bad sportsmanship. Fair enough if you have the ejection seat upgrade and you might survive, but if you are bailing to suicide on the ground, then that is just lame.

Simple solution to all this:

1. Stop Heavy Assult from flying (really they should not be driving non open topped vheicles either, same in PS1, would give a good reason for the buggies)

2. give credit to any suicide to the player who last shot the pilot or the pilots vehicle for 1 min. For example, the player A or his aircraft is shot by player B, player A bails, when he dies from hitting the ground player B gets the kill. Or player A's aircraft or himself gets shot and he bails but survives, if he kills himself via boomer or somthing within 1 min of landing, then player B gets the credit. If player C kills player A before player A can suicide, then only player C gets the credit.
this suicide rule should apply to everything, not just aircraft.

wraithverge

2012-07-02, 12:38 PM

this was done by the scythe pilot who was killing everyon in one of the tb videos, either 2-3 not day 1.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-02, 12:41 PM

Was the guy who did this in the tb vid able to kill another aircraft while free falling or did he just bail then get back into his own aircraft before it hit the ground?

Dreamcast

2012-07-02, 12:51 PM

Some dude already did that at e3......He bailed out then got back in and never crashed:D

Everybody worshiped him.

Zar

2012-07-02, 12:52 PM

inless it's changed the planes can take quite a bit of dmg one missile from a sky ninja will not kill them inless they have taken ton's of dmg id just boost and ram him in mid air >.< np with this

Mastachief

2012-07-02, 01:01 PM

ummmm Some one does this in one of the planetside2 videos using a light assault (could be E3)

Baneblade

2012-07-02, 01:25 PM

Well I made the poll as a joke, but clearly it's being taken seriously.

If dogfighting turns into an infantry game, I think we will need to stop this from happening. I don't like the immersion break this will add, but PS2 pretty much put immersion out on the street corner and beats it half to death if it pulls in less than a grand a day.

Raymac

2012-07-02, 02:31 PM

1. Stop Heavy Assult from flying (really they should not be driving non open topped vheicles either, same in PS1, would give a good reason for the buggies)

Problem solved.

Policenaut

2012-07-02, 02:35 PM

Why would you want to take something like that out? It's something a very small percentage of people would try, and an even smaller percentage would be able to master.

Bravix

2012-07-02, 02:57 PM

We had this really nice discussion going on about how Auraxis is really a moon, will have to dig up the link... Anyways its my opinion that Auraxis has an artificial earthlike gravity offsetting the lack of mass on our lil old planetoid. Of course I dont know if the gaming environment has the same gravity as earths if its less then it would take longer to fall from the 3000 foot flight ceiling.

Simple. Auraxium, in regards to mass, is very dense and heavy.

The planet's/moon core contains a lot of Auraxium.

This would allow for the relatively small moon to have a mass similar to Earth.

Same concept as a neutron star, kinda.

Eyeklops

2012-07-02, 03:07 PM

The stunts are cool to see, but yea, leave that for the BF3.

If they implement some realistic physics and the ejection seat does it's job correctly, ejecting you away from the aircraft, the likely hood of re-boarding is pretty damn low, if not impossible. PS1 did suffer from the "I am a pilot with a bazooka in the cockpit, if I lose I will bail and shoot it at you" mentality on occasion.

I think any AV should be "stowed" automatically when I pilot gets in, and cannot be accessed again until the aircraft lands properly and the pilot "retrieves it from the trunk". Not a trunk like in PS1, just an icon on the body of the plane that reactivates the usage of AV. This way HA can fly planes without everyone bitching about the "bazooka in cockpit" events.

However, if you bail and manage to kill the other plane with your beamer, which I have seen done, GOOD FOR YOU!! :)

archaonn

2012-07-02, 03:08 PM

I would like to kill people when they are on a vehicle. If you shoot a cockpit with aircraft ammo you should be able to kill the pilot.

And i dont mind having the posibility of swaping the aircraft, is something thatll probably never happen, so i dont mind.

Zalmoxis

2012-07-02, 03:13 PM

First off, if anybody can do this then they are skilled enough to kick his/her opponent's ass with the aircraft they were piloting. So, why not do it with style? Plus, no PS2 infantry launcher can OHK any vehicle at full health. They did discuss this in a E3 coverage I saw on youtube and a developer said that the reason for this is that it's due to the sheer amount of players.

SO this can never actually happen here and if it does, then it would be extremely awesome.

Baneblade

2012-07-02, 03:29 PM

I'm just trying to imagine Tom Cruise ejecting from his F-14 and still managing to remember his lines and then pull out his Stinger and shoot down the MiG.

Oh right, and then getting back in and closing the canopy that didn't get ripped of.

Zalmoxis

2012-07-02, 03:34 PM

Steven Seagal would just stare at the enemy aircraft until it destroyed itself. He wouldn't need lines.

Baneblade

2012-07-02, 03:38 PM

Chuck Norris will be shooting down Reavers and Scythes from WoW.

shadowsfm

2012-07-02, 03:46 PM

with his own spit

BigBossMonkey

2012-07-02, 03:47 PM

That is skill, yes; but what about the other player? He is trying to shoot a jet down and all the sudden a guy teleports out of the jet and immediately kills him. What could he have done to avoid that?

You would be hard pressed to find a similar situation in any other aspect of the game.

Well since you can't kill pilots in aircraft, it would have to be a Rexo flying it with a rocket launcher, the guy in the other aircraft would have to be then be low enough to have a single (or two) rockets kill him.

Plus if you see someone bail out like that and they're above you, you could always just afterburn into them and splat them on your windshield.

Bravix

2012-07-02, 03:48 PM

Imagine chasing someone and he pulls up, only to do that trick. You're both at 25% health and he pulls out a rocket launcher. What do you do? Let him kill you and then whine on the forums, or figure out a way to turn the tables? Difference in mentality here. How about bailing yourself and pulling out your rifle, killing him in mid-air as you both fall down. Afterwards you'd exchange tells about how awesome that was, both laughing. That kind of stuff is way more appealing to me than nerfing it tbh.

No, I wouldn't be sending tells laughing. I just lost the aircraft that I enjoy flying because some tool lost the dogfight and bailed and tried killing me with his rocket launcher mid-air.

And no I can't pull another aircraft, I'm all out of resources.

I just think it's absurd. Not the end of the world, but if people continually bail out and try killing me, I won't be playing aircraft in PS2. Just like I stopped flying aircraft (as much) in PS1.

ThGlump

2012-07-02, 04:18 PM

This is one of the reason i want enter/exit animations back. Not for feel or immersion, but for mechanic that it enforce - one of it is that vehicle must be stationary to enter (quite needed for animations).
But it would be fine just with those restrictions. Same on the ground. Its silly to enter vehicle when its running around you at max speed.

GreatMazinkaise

2012-07-02, 05:22 PM

Stuff like this is fine to copy from Battlefield... Rule of Cool > all other considerations.

Azren

2012-07-02, 05:59 PM

Did this in PS1. Had a bunch of guys in a phantasm, following a damaged GG. We all bailed and started shooting him down mid air. I am sure they were happy to get killed this way.

As long as you can not enter a moving vehicle, this should be fine.

kertvon

2012-07-02, 10:28 PM

I don't see why people think that these stunts will barely be attempted if they are possible. Lack of skill aside, there will be the ability to spawn vehicles on demand notwithstanding the necessity for the resources to do so. Silly stuff like this is a waste of resources for people attempting it that can't, and even if they have a relative idea of where to aim, it is still a large amount of luck involved in pulling it off. I am not trying to be a kill joy or anything, but I would be much more impressed if I was chasing another pilot who managed to get the upper hand in the dogfight and take me down than I would some guy exploiting lack of vehicle initialization and unrealistic mechanics. If you can't out maneuver another pilot, you should have to face the facts and eject or go down in flames.

SKYeXile

2012-07-02, 10:34 PM

Please nerf this game more, I don't want anything that's fun to happen. It needs to be a military simulator so geriatrics can keep up too.

Needs more cockpit view, I'm not immersed enough.

on the thread though i would have thought the Window licker and mouth breather options would have been next to the yes vote.

Kran De Loy

2012-07-02, 11:25 PM

Mouth Breather is someone that keeps their mouth open all the time. Typically thought of as moronic, stupid or retarded.

I have no idea what a Winder licker is tho. Maybes something to do with buttholes. Idk.

noxious

2012-07-02, 11:28 PM

I love that even with the OP's attempt to frame the question to get the response he wanted, the response he didn't want is winning.

I hope stuff like this is possible. It's extremely improbable, but when it happens, it's the sort of thing that people talk about for years.

Airanuva

2012-07-02, 11:36 PM

Honestly, leave it in. If he is lucky/skilled enough to pull it off, he deserves the kill. If he isn't, then you get an easier kill.
Now any attempts to avoid giving credit should be squashed, I won't argue with that. But this isn't avoiding credit, this is using a very unusual and quite awesome tactic to beat you.

If this sort of thing ends up happening a lot, you'll just have to look for the signs he's going to attempt it, and counter. Not that hard to counter either, a couple rounds from any of the ship's weapons would kill him.

Electrofreak

2012-07-02, 11:39 PM

Brusi

2012-07-02, 11:42 PM

I don't know if i really care about if this is possible in PS2 or not, BUT I FUCKING WANT TO SEE IT IN THE NEXT JAMES BOND FILM!!!!

Rago

2012-07-03, 01:48 AM

I don´t Like James Bond,--> but i like Stunts like that in Games.Hate me for that if you want.(Chance of Success is 1/40 anyway,..)
It´s Fun, and Yes Your poll sucks.I wont Vote :)

Malorn

2012-07-03, 02:02 AM

I wonder how many people try this and miss their connecting flight, or get run over by it.

Baneblade

2012-07-03, 08:53 AM

Hotdropping surgiles weren't immediately commonplace either, but if it works you can bet your ass it will be. TribeSide could be fun, but overall it won't make the game better. If I best someone as a pilot, they need to fucking die, not get a free life and a lame kill. Airchavs wouldn't like it when someone bails from a tank and shoots them down. So why should they get to do it. It's bad enough in PS1 when they can second life an AA Max and kill it, but the MAX can't do the same to the pilot.

I'm not making a statement about surgiles. I just want parity.

Rivenshield

2012-07-04, 03:31 AM

It's a goddam exploit and has no business in *any* game.

TeaLeaf

2012-07-04, 04:39 AM

What kind of joyless humbug would actually be opposed to people occasionally pulling off amazing shit like this?

It'll happen maybe 5 times in the entire lifetime of planetside 2, it won't be the standard method of dog fighting.

drennam

2012-07-04, 04:48 AM

your all forgetting the fact that hand launched anti-vix weps are pretty weak in ps2, and to do this to get one shot off is a very wasted amount of time

Karrade

2012-07-04, 06:46 AM

I don't fly much, so if the pilots find blowing each other up out of their aircraft fun, and not needing a plane so much, more power to em. I voted no, but yes was just as valid for me. This way galaxy drops will be able to deploy AA as soon as they jump, so it'll make my own playstyle more powerful. - If that is what people want :D

BattsTR

2012-07-04, 12:40 PM

Preemptive whining about getting killed in "unique" ways. "Ban it before it can hurt me" mentality which ruins games.

UrbanDenim

2012-07-04, 01:29 PM

Everyone that wants this banned just sounds like a middle aged guy with very little FPS skill and doesn't like younger more skilled players pulling out some impressive moves. The chances of anything like this even happening are very... VERY slim. You should appreciate the fact that people on the enemy team will try things like this.. and kill themselves in the process. I see no issue here, it just brings another element of fun to a "game".

Baneblade

2012-07-04, 04:43 PM

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-04, 04:56 PM

More like we want a more believable game... which is why I don't play those silly FPS session games much. I remember when FPSes were trying to be as realistic as possible.

Would it be more believable if it was a light assault bailing out of a mossie and then jet packing to a friendly galaxy with an open spot?

DOUBLEXBAUGH

2012-07-04, 05:07 PM

Would it be more believable if it was a light assault bailing out of a mossie and then jet packing to a friendly galaxy with an open spot?

Why would he not stay in his skeet and escort the gal?

Baneblade

2012-07-04, 05:10 PM

Would it be more believable if it was a light assault bailing out of a mossie and then jet packing to a friendly galaxy with an open spot?

Maybe a zipline from one Gal or another Gal. That might be plausible.

Tatwi

2012-07-04, 05:13 PM

That is the stupidest thing I have seen since you guys posted posted a video of dolphin diving.

I am so happy that I haven't wasted any money on consoles or "modern shooters" (or any shooter other than Planetside in the last decade).

Froglicker

2012-07-04, 06:07 PM

Would it be more believable if it was a light assault bailing out of a mossie and then jet packing to a friendly galaxy with an open spot?
He has a jetpack, so yes, it would be more believable. Its not like Galaxys travel at supersonic speeds that prevent any of its hatches from opening.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-04, 06:09 PM

A more realistic game in a sci fi shooter where tanks float and no one can ever die.
/facepalm

Froglicker

2012-07-04, 07:02 PM

A more realistic game in a sci fi shooter where tanks float and no one can ever die.
/facepalm
Magnetic levitation using super conductors today IS real. So floating tanks 600 years in the future that utilize the natural magnetic fields of Auraxis is concievable.
Boaz Almog "levitates" a superconductor - YouTube

But yeah, people never really dying is still a stretch, but here's my take on it:
Its estimated the human brain stores about 1000 terabytes of information.
Scientists have already developed a wifi technology that can transmit 2.5 terabits/sec, 8000 times faster than the fastest consumer landline (thats like 7 full bluray movies per sec fast) so its concievable the tech would be faster and longer range 600 years from now. Scientists Develop SUPER FAST Wifi! - YouTube
Tech could wirelessly beam new brain information to be stored along with prestored DNA to spawn soldiers using nanites.

So yeah those are both theoretically possible 600 years+ years from now. Do keep in mind that wireless hand held phones and doors that opened themselves were also once considered impossible and unrealistic only 40 years ago (think Star Trek)

Baneblade

2012-07-04, 07:03 PM

A more realistic game in a sci fi shooter where tanks float and no one can ever die.
/facepalm

Oh right, because we are so totally going to invent teleportation technology to allow us to teleport out of a fighter to shoot another fighter with a gun and then teleport back into our fighter.

Why don't we just teleport the enemy fighter into a bridge.

There is a point at which suspension of belief is not possible. Technology is plausible and floaty tanks are entirely possible... not to mention likely at some point.

LexTalionis

2012-07-05, 01:42 PM

all i can say is that was freaking amazing. I don't care how unrealistic it was. Ive played BF3 a few times, and I know that was some crazy shizite.

TheDAWinz

2012-07-05, 01:50 PM

Oh right, because we are so totally going to invent teleportation technology to allow us to teleport out of a fighter to shoot another fighter with a gun and then teleport back into our fighter.

Why don't we just teleport the enemy fighter into a bridge.

There is a point at which suspension of belief is not possible. Technology is plausible and floaty tanks are entirely possible... not to mention likely at some point.

I agree, but if you are looking for the end all be all for realism, play ARMA 2.

Sledgecrushr

2012-07-05, 04:13 PM

I agree, but if you are looking for the end all be all for realism, play ARMA 2.

ARMA2 doesnt realistically potray todays advanced body armors. Read this wiki on dragonskin armor. Http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=how%20effective%20is%20todays%20best%20body%20ar mor&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CF8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDragon_ Skin&ei=Z_T1T9WmKYac2QWRnbjjBg&usg=AFQjCNG6MmChd1cu1EvWarE8431WGmQnig

Froglicker

2012-07-05, 04:56 PM

I agree, but if you are looking for the end all be all for realism, play ARMA 2.
No one's arguing for absolute realism, but rather for at least plausible realism. I wouldn't have a problem at all with midair entry/exits if there were short animations that went with it. Hell, that'd only make it more difficult to do those types of maneuvers, and thus, more impressive. They'd be crazy, but still plausible. Teleporting instantaneously to driver's seats is not.

TheDAWinz

2012-07-05, 05:05 PM

ARMA2 doesnt realistically potray todays advanced body armors. Read this wiki on dragonskin armor. Http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=how%20effective%20is%20todays%20best%20body%20ar mor&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CF8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDragon_ Skin&ei=Z_T1T9WmKYac2QWRnbjjBg&usg=AFQjCNG6MmChd1cu1EvWarE8431WGmQnig

Dragon skin isn't in service yet.

Talek Krell

2012-07-05, 05:22 PM

My keen senses detect some bias in the poll options. :p

For me the concern is less about people jumping in and out of aircraft and more about whether they're allowed to carry the missile launchers while flying. It's the same principle behind not letting MAXes drive tanks, nobody appreciates chasing down an MBT in a Reaver and having an AA Max jump out.

Without the missile launcher the loopzook is just a cute party trick.