Moar vehicles

[IHateMMOs]

Considering that the Devs want to bring back most of the vehicles from Planetside, what new vehicles do you think they will create just for PS2, what will they do, and what are its benefits and weaknesses? Personally, I hope they'll add empire specific troop transports that are more in line with their empire. So that the VS's transport hovers, and the NC's transport is falling apart.

[Dougnifico]

BFRs!!!! Lol. JK.... please don't hurt me...

[Tatwi]

I'd be satisfied with more chassis that simply looked different, but were otherwise the same as any other vehicle of their type. So another type of visual customization basically. This would automatically be "balanced", while also being fun to use.

Hmmm... That said, I think it would be cool to have a MAX suit (for all factions) that could travel quickly under water, have a 50% slower land walking speed, but a 150% faster land sprint speed (same duration). I'd spec mine dual flame throwers. lol...

[LordReaver]

I think the AMS will make a comeback in one form or another. Sure the Galaxy spawns people, and you can fly it, but you don't always need mobility. Sometimes you just need to get into really weird places, and the AMS was amazing at that.

Assuming the devs could come up with a way for artillery to be fun and not overpowered, there will always be a spot for it in PS2.

I can't picture the router making a return. While fun things did happen due to it, it did kind of break gameplay. One cloaker sneaks past, and an entire empire can follow.

There is always naval and space combat, but each of those deserve their own topics.

I think everything else can be solved with variants and modifications.



One a side note.... Why does everybody assume the NC tech isn't functional? Just because it is repurposed, doesn't mean it doesn't work. WWII people... WWII!

[disky]

I just want to know what that transport thing they showed but never talked about was for. Is it just a civilian vehicle for the urban stuff they've mentioned? Is it some kind of ANT-like vehicle?

I must know.

[IHateMMOs]

I think the AMS will make a comeback in one form or another. Sure the Galaxy spawns people, and you can fly it, but you don't always need mobility. Sometimes you just need to get into really weird places, and the AMS was amazing at that.

Assuming the devs could come up with a way for artillery to be fun and not overpowered, there will always be a spot for it in PS2.

I can't picture the router making a return. While fun things did happen due to it, it did kind of break gameplay. One cloaker sneaks past, and an entire empire can follow.

There is always naval and space combat, but each of those deserve their own topics.

I think everything else can be solved with variants and modifications.



One a side note.... Why does everybody assume the NC tech isn't functional? Just because it is repurposed, doesn't mean it doesn't work. WWII people... WWII!

I really doubt they'll bring back the AMS, the Galaxy is so much more fun, the AMS would just be taking up space. What I really want to see again is the buggies, not just 1 common pool buggy, but empire specific, like in Planetside.
Speaking of the router, I hope they don't add any of the Ancient Technology vehicles, they were so out of tune from the rest of the vehicle.

[Shade Millith]

Personally, I'm hoping for a decent field artillery (Not Flail) vehicle.

Wouldn't be too hard to make it unspamable.

[Canaris]

I see plans within plans!

seems maybe the first "light" troop transport might be NS common pool, Deliverer style but probably with interchangeable weapon hard points.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120409_4f83072b82973.jpg

for faction buggies we'll need to wait a bit longer but so far all signs point to their return in the near future

[Anderz]

Boats!

[IHateMMOs]

One thing I noticed is that there's no weapons on that thing.

[Canaris]

One thing I noticed is that there's no weapons on that thing.

there was no weapons on the Flash when we first saw it, now it has Grenade Launcher! :D

[CutterJohn]

One thing I noticed is that there's no weapons on that thing.

They didn't have weapons on the first sunderer screens either. They'll just be addon turrets.



For ground vehicles:

- A light recon vehicle. PS1 buggies, but I hate the term buggy, so I'm not calling it that. I'd definitely love if they all hovered and had battlezone 2 style handling. TR/NC can have thruster graphics to differentiate them from vanu tech. This would give all factions some hover capability.

- A heavy tank.


For aircraft

- A 2 man attack helo type vehicle. Very slow, always in vtol mode, so no transition to level flight. Built like a tank and meant for close in air support.

- A 5 man transport aircraft

- Possibly a vehicle transport.

[Xaine]

Something that takes 4/5 people to operate. Some sort of giant Baneblade tank, or a rebalanced BFR.

Or just something heavier than an MBT.

Come at me bro(s).

[exoteror]

Along with the deliverer type vehical I would like to see a hovercraft. This would be good on water, less good on land but is able to strafe and fast, downside is it would be abit more difficult to steer than other vehicals.

[Eggy]

I'd be satisfied with more chassis that simply looked different, but were otherwise the same as any other vehicle of their type. So another type of visual customization basically. This would automatically be "balanced", while also being fun to use.


I had this exact discussion with some of my outfit while playing at the weekend.
Whilst maybe not being the most combat effective vehicles, the assault buggys, the mini transports and there variants were great funto play and "most" of the them were deadly in specific situations. Adding lots of them would take a while though so as you say variants that do the same but look different adds variety on the battle field.

[Kran De Loy]

Along with the deliverer type vehical I would like to see a hovercraft. This would be good on water, less good on land but is able to strafe and fast, downside is it would be abit more difficult to steer than other vehicals.

Wait so you're going to Vanu and use a MBT? 'Cause we've got those.

I'd like to see Nanite Systems buggies, Driver + 1 Passenger that can shoot his weapons from the passenger seat + 1 Turret Gunner on the back.

Otherwise I really can't think of anything else that the game could use that isn't covered by a possible variant of one of the existing vehicles.

That said I'd love to see the Flash get models that would be like motorcycles.

[disky]

I see plans within plans!

seems maybe the first "light" troop transport might be NS common pool, Deliverer style but probably with interchangeable weapon hard points.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120409_4f83072b82973.jpg

for faction buggies we'll need to wait a bit longer but so far all signs point to their return in the near future

That's the one I was talking about. Maybe a command/recon vehicle?

Boats!

I really want a water-based game, and I think the game absolutely needs some amphibious craft.

That said I'd love to see the Flash get models that would be like motorcycles.

I've posted this before, but I feel like they could do a lot more with the Flash. Ever seen the Tesseract? It's a quad/motorcycle hybrid built by Yamaha:

http://ali786.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/tesseract.jpg

[IHateMMOs]

Mobile Artillery which can be customized to be an AA Flak Cannon, or maybe a heat seaking missile launcher. And all that implemented onto boats in case Cyssor has more rivers and lakes.

[Astrok]

Mobile Artillery which can be customized to be an AA Flak Cannon, or maybe a heat seaking missile launcher. And all that implemented onto boats in case Cyssor has more rivers and lakes.

Yeah good idea .1 mobile thing that u can either use for artillery or costumize it to use it as a flak gun.

cool to have flak turrets. especially at night scenes it would be epic looking to see all those guns shooting trough the air.

[Canaris]

I've posted this before, but I feel like they could do a lot more with the Flash. Ever seen the Tesseract? It's a quad/motorcycle hybrid built by Yamaha:

http://ali786.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/tesseract.jpg

wow that thing is savage looking

[Tikuto]

Warship/Airship to replace 'Galaxy Gunship'.

[IHateMMOs]

wow that thing is savage looking

Too bad Nanite System replaced Yamaha, would have loved to drive that as opposed to the flash.

[disky]

Too bad Nanite System replaced Yamaha, would have loved to drive that as opposed to the flash.

Only downside: the front fenders look like high heels.

YOU CAN'T UNSEE IT

[IHateMMOs]

Only downside: the front fenders look like high heels.

YOU CAN'T UNSEE IT

Lol that's an extra seat for your hoe.

[Karrade]

Order of preference

1, AMS - Badly needed as Galaxy is too big a target for many situations and playstyles, and not everyone likes to fly to set up spawn points!
2, Heavy 3 Man Tank/Vehicle - +1 Man the bigger the tank or vehicle gets, keeps things balanced, and ensure a more even spread of vehicles rather than just the biggest.
3, Router - Great tactical vehicle (Don't know if this in or not)
4, Artillery - Opens up more gameplay scenarios. If balance is an issue, simply don't have it firing as far! Also make it tougher if it's to be closer in, or fitted with an anti infantry weapon.
5, Light Troop Transport - Small Spec Ops Transport. Hard to spot, fast, light.
6, Galaxy Gunship replacement - Great idea above, not a galaxy but something big, menacing and that draws a lot of fire.

[IHateMMOs]

Order of preference

1, AMS - Badly needed as Galaxy is too big a target for many situations and playstyles, and not everyone likes to fly to set up spawn points!
2, Heavy 3 Man Tank/Vehicle - +1 Man the bigger the tank or vehicle gets, keeps things balanced, and ensure a more even spread of vehicles rather than just the biggest.
3, Router - Great tactical vehicle (Don't know if this in or not)
4, Artillery - Opens up more gameplay scenarios. If balance is an issue, simply don't have it firing as far! Also make it tougher if it's to be closer in, or fitted with an anti infantry weapon.
5, Light Troop Transport - Small Spec Ops Transport. Hard to spot, fast, light.
6, Galaxy Gunship replacement - Great idea above, not a galaxy but something big, menacing and that draws a lot of fire.

As long as they don't make the router look like ancient technology and make it look like a human mobile artillery I'll be fine with it.

[Goku]

All I really want to see is buggies make a return. Yet, with the new lower TTK on vehicles over all I think its going to be hard to place these in. I don't want a buggy to get blown up from one AV shot for example like in BF3 where its just a transport. I would like to see these be a viable tank/infantry/air killing potential through the use of high speed and maneuverability plus some others abilities perhaps. I mean enough speed to get away from any enemy ground vehicle instead of getting away at a snails pace like in PS. IMO the speeds were way to close in that game.

[Exmortius]

a new deliverer would be pretty sweet. also i expect loadstars to make a return eventually. i would like to see some new designs for even more air combat type of vehicles. something totally original for all 3 armies they can put in eventually maybe with an expansion add on. a TR apache style chopper would certainly be interesting or a warthog type of aircraft that just is spec'd for taking out tanks. granted i'm sure you can spec out a mossie that way....it would be cool to see some things other than the 3 vehicles we have down the road that maybe bring a slightly different playstyle. seems like we got a good dev team that can come up with some cool unique stuff. maybe some sort of support spy plane even similar to the mossie with a larger radius....maybe galaxy gunship cert.

[Sledgecrushr]

I really want a water-based game, and I think the game absolutely needs some amphibious craft.

With an endless fuel supply, water navy is kind of redundant.

[IHateMMOs]

Which brings us to another topic, an entire continent taking place in an ocean, and Oil rigs act as facilities.

[Doxy]

Some sort of Mobile Fortress for like a squad =]
http://media.desura.com/images/groups/1/3/2074/Guardian.jpg

[disky]

With an endless fuel supply, water navy is kind of redundant.

I don't understand. Please explain.

What happens when you have undersea facilities? Wouldn't you want to have something that can cover that terrain? As an infantryman, I would also appreciate the tactical options an amphibious craft can provide. I think there's a lot of potential for watercraft, you just aren't seeing the possibilities.

That said, I also wouldn't mind a Titan-style airship facility a la BF2142. They did show something of the sort in one of the concept art pieces, however it was dismissed as a concept only.

[IHateMMOs]

I don't understand. Please explain.

What happens when you have undersea facilities? Wouldn't you want to have something that can cover that terrain? As an infantryman, I would also appreciate the tactical options an amphibious craft can provide. I think there's a lot of potential for watercraft, you just aren't seeing the possibilities.

That said, I also wouldn't mind a Titan-style airship facility a la BF2142. They did show something of the sort in one of the concept art pieces, however it was dismissed.

IDK, I can see them adding boats and battleships in the future, but underwater would be too much trouble. I feel like I'm pressuring the devs enough by asking them to add buggies, considering that the game looks fantastic the way it is at the current moment.

[Eyeklops]

A larger vehicle version of the MAX suit. Maybe it can hold two people and have a rechargeable shield to better protect it.

A stealth transport aircraft with a pilot chain-gun on the front. Something that can hold 4 Heavy Assault soldiers and is flown by an infiltrator.

A large troop transport aircraft re-purposed for tank hunting & door spamming. It should carry at least 5 gunners, have about as much armor as 4 tanks, and the firepower of 8 tanks.

[lolroflroflcake]

The TR demands that their Raiders be returned to them for Planetside 2 ... well I mean I do but I'm sure its a shared sentiment.

[disky]

IDK, I can see them adding boats and battleships in the future, but underwater would be too much trouble. I feel like I'm pressuring the devs enough by asking them to add buggies, considering that the game looks fantastic the way it is at the current moment.

If they don't add underwater facilities, that's fine. It would be awesome, but I would never expect it. I just don't understand why water vehicles would be written off based on "an endless fuel supply" as there are many, many reasons to have watercraft in the game.

[Sephirex]

With an endless fuel supply, water navy is kind of redundant.

Sounds like those people in the late 1800s, who thought a flying machine would make warfare redundant and start an age of eternal peace.

[Senyu]

If it comes into more gameplay effecting mechanics, I think a recon focused vehicle would be cool. As of now (correct me if I'm wrong) the Gal and Sunderer's are really the only support type vehicles. The rest are offensive. I think more support and defensive vehicles should be in the game provided there is enough gameplay elements to warrent them. I always thought having communication outposts and radar would be a cool feature/mechanic and would have vehicles to support it.

[Sephirex]

If you get enough Vanu tanks and aircraft together, it only makes sense they would assemble themselves into a giant mechanized humanoid cyborg capable of feats of mass destruction.

[IHateMMOs]

One other thing, they did mention they were bringing the Loadstar back, but since there aren't any vehicle animations, how can you load a vehicle into it?

[Canaris]

One other thing, they did mention they were bringing the Loadstar back, but since there aren't any vehicle animations, how can you load a vehicle into it?
I'm going with magic!

that or like entering a vehicle you'll just pop inside the load bay after a short delay but magic seems most likely :D

[Kayos]

I agree with the boat idea. Boats would be a great addition. Hopefully they add a map with lots of water and maybe some islands to capture.

[IHateMMOs]

I'm going with magic!

that or like entering a vehicle you'll just pop inside the load bay after a short delay but magic seems most likely :D

How about the hatch opens up every time teh Loadstar lands, and you can dynamically drive the vehicle into it. That would be so much better.

[fvdham]

The Deliverer should be amphibious again for naval warfare.

I see plans within plans!

seems maybe the first "light" troop transport might be NS common pool, Deliverer style but probably with interchangeable weapon hard points.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/media/album/mp52rz6sp6/20120409_4f83072b82973.jpg

for faction buggies we'll need to wait a bit longer but so far all signs point to their return in the near future

That is a pretty car.

It could be an ANT or the chassis of a radar vehicle :p

[Landtank]

I remember hearing them say something about the buggies already being modeled, sorry if that was mentioned somewhere in this thread.

I believe they are waiting to include the buggies until after the game is released though, which I don't mind.

[Metalsheep]

I'd like to see:
The Phantasm
The ANT
AMS
ES Buggies and the Harasser/Skyguard
Deliverer/ES Variants
Some kind of deployable combat vehicle (Like the Switchblade/Flail)

Since Planetside 2 doesnt seem to believe in teleporters, maybe there could be a vehicle that deploys into one of those Jump Pad/Man Cannon kind of deals.

Also, what use are Boats when your aircraft have unlimited fuel and are much faster? The Aircraft Carrier killed Naval warfare. We don't even have Battleships anymore, just smaller boats to defend the Carriers. (Isnt there like one or two Battleships still in the American Navy?) Though an amphibious vehicle, like the deliverer, would be useful for river crossings.

[IHateMMOs]

Please no Ancient Technology... Please! And how about faction specific heavy fighter in which 2 people can fit in it. Maybe a tail gunner.