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Rumblepit
2012-07-07, 05:28 PM
dont tend to rage much, but im gonna speak my mind about this.

rules were most bases after 6 hrs wins, all bases were neutral to start.

so the event starts out like this, tr in a warpgate ,nc in a warpgate , and vs in a tech base???????? yup they started in a tech base. anyway we run for tech and a inerlink right off the bat. before we got past the first towers vs were showing up in mossies and started mowing us down. never the less we pushed on and so did the nc. we got a good foot in the door and started with 4 bases, nc had 3 and vs had 3. we push the vs back to 1 base with the nc. then we drop their gen and they have no spawn point... vs are gone right??????? no. Brewko gets in csr chat and says vs send me a tell if u want on old oshur. back up to full pop in no time. tr and nc push on. we get them pinned into their last bases and we are farming away waiting for the ntu to drain. it was down to 40% when brewko yet again lends a helping hand. 40% to 90% in a blink of a eye.

love to take part in community events,but the next time he has one im gonna tell him to shove that event up his purple butt.

maybe ill be the only one offended by this, im very competitive.

Lixion
2012-07-07, 05:35 PM
You do know VS lost right?

NoDachi
2012-07-07, 05:37 PM
Looks like you still got Oshurs sand still up your butt.

Rumblepit
2012-07-07, 05:37 PM
well aware of it. they should have been out along time ago. eitherway the event was bs.

and to tell ya the truth it would have been better if he was fair about it. all he did was pissoff the tr and the nc and that got the vs booted.

favoritism dosnt always work out so well.

EightEightEight
2012-07-07, 05:43 PM
I understand there may have been issues but you have to understand Brewko organized this event on his day off. Sometimes the events don't go as planned just have to roll with the events and try and enjoy them or don't and play on the rest of the map.

I mean the devs don't have to plan events for us as all but I personally appreciate that they take the time to do these things and interact with the community

Pyreal
2012-07-07, 05:48 PM
Was VS under there 150 player limit?

Zulthus
2012-07-07, 05:51 PM
What's the crying about? Each empire had a tech plant an equal distance away from their starting point. VS got Jamshid, NC got Izha and TR got Dahaka.

If anyone should be complaining it'd be us, we got double teamed. But even then it took both empires forever, with a population advantage to take us down. And it only happened when they took the gen down. If the gen was defended we'd still be holding it.

I guess the event was fun for a while nonetheless.

OnexBigxHebrew
2012-07-07, 05:51 PM
Wow. I'd just be happy that someone gave a damn about organizing an event for a decade old relic of a game. Count your blssings that anyone still logs on.

RodenyC
2012-07-07, 05:56 PM
Hmm the OP got to play yet after 4 hours I didn't.Op is either NC or TR teaming up and not killing each other so they can kick the VS off? And he's complaining? Did I miss something?

basti
2012-07-07, 06:03 PM
Obviously Rumble doesnt know what really happend, at all.


VS started in one warpgate, just as anyone else. But, for whatever reason, a good chunk of our guys got teleported to atar and not the warpgate. We told Brewko several times, but the event started anyway, and we just put our hack on atar (that was the plan all along anyway).
Some of us (ISK + VC) quickly grabbed mossys and went to Jamshid. AT maxcrashed over to Jamshid as well.

Thats why we had a tiny headstart.


Now, the NTU is a different topic. You cannot get a ANT on old Oshur, as there is no Warpgate to fill it. GMs cannot spawn filled ANTs, or teleport vehicles, means there literally is no way to get a filled ant on Old oshur.
They could only fill bases manually, and thats what they did.




I did like the event, but VS got double teamed right from the start. Im pretty sure TR will win this one, as NC suck way to much to pull anything good off.

Having Instant action working on Old Oshur would have helped a ton, but sadly that didnt seem possible. :(

Vere
2012-07-07, 06:10 PM
The three empires started on even grounds, even if the quickness of the first hacks on all sides surprised me. The pop was 33% for the first hour, then as it became clear that VS was getting doubleteamed, the VS pop dropped. I think that was the cause for the late invitations to some VS, if there really were any.

Thanks to the devs and all who organized this event, and for the nice "loser commendation" :p

GTGD
2012-07-07, 06:16 PM
All I can see are TR and NC tears and the refusal to take responsibility for forming another lame alliance.

The bases were filled because it would be impossible to fill them otherwise. The warp gates didn't work. If the bases were drained, would that mean "oh well, nobody can use this base anymore"?

Brewko let the VS back on Oshur because when you cooped the gen, it booted a whole bunch of people who were spawning back to the sanctuary. It's not like they could have gotten back by going through a warp gate or HARTing in. So sweet, because you double teamed the generator, any VS that was in the middle of spawning deserves to be kicked out of the event that was still going on! Totally, bro.

And finally, I can't speak for Jamshid but I know a ton of VS and some TR were teleported directly to Atar's air pad and told not to move from their starting positions or else they'd be removed from the event. That was definitely a screw up. Not a reason for the TR and NC to make an alliance though. Last thing I saw before I left was a prowler shooting at an NC AMS, but when it saw the color scheme it stopped shooting and turned around to head to the backdoor and farm any VS trying to push out.

It's pretty sad when the two empires who bitch the most about blown generators cooperated to blow Atar's gen at least 6 times, all while not fighting over any other base. Not to mention that after losing tech, the VS weren't even a threat since pushing another base meant losing Atar. It would have been nice to see all the bases and terrain on Oshur, but instead the VS got to stare at the floorplans of a dropship center for a couple hours before being muscled out by double the population of crybabies.

Effective
2012-07-07, 06:31 PM
I'll be honest, it makes sense to push the VS off first. Neither the TR or the NC can pull so many maxs in such a short amount of time. You may not have figured this out, but fighting constantly against a flood of maxs IS NOT FUN.

Zulthus
2012-07-07, 06:38 PM
I'll be honest, it makes sense to push the VS off first. Neither the TR or the NC can pull so many maxs in such a short amount of time. You may not have figured this out, but fighting constantly against a flood of maxs IS NOT FUN.

I know. We have to do it ALL THE TIME against the NC. :(

Jamini
2012-07-07, 06:41 PM
I know. We have to do it ALL THE TIME against the VS. :(

Fixed that for ya.
The NC have less than half the number of maxes that most VS zergs run. It's not even funny.

Zulthus
2012-07-07, 06:43 PM
Fixed that for ya.
The NC have less than half the number of maxes that most VS zergs run. It's not even funny.

Why would the VS have to fight against hordes of VS MAXes?

The amount of Falcons and Scatmaxes I see running to gens during a farm is overwhelming. I've never seen such a problem from the TR though.

SixShooter
2012-07-07, 06:44 PM
we push the vs back to 1 base with the nc.

This is what kills me. NC and TR cooperating on an epic scale to boot the VS and yet they still complain that it's not fair. VS got owned because the NC and NC refused to attack each other. At one point I died on the rooftop of Atar and had a great view of the courtyard and watched in wonder as TR and NC shelled the doors together. Sure there were a few that killed each other but for the most part it was a team effort to get rid of the VS.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I actually had a lot of fun. The OP just really made me laugh. Hell the event started while they were still pulling in VS and Brewko did the /tell me thing for the NC as well with the TR having the largest pop.

Bravix
2012-07-07, 06:45 PM
Fixed that for ya.
The NC have less than half the number of maxes that most VS zergs run. It's not even funny.

LMAO you also have the Jackhammer. We wouldn't need so many MAXs if we had that.

Instead we have the orb gun (It doesn't really lash, so you can't call it the Lasher. If anything, it gives people around it a static shock).

Baneblade
2012-07-07, 06:45 PM
I still think they should just swap out Ish and swap in Oshur.

GTGD
2012-07-07, 06:46 PM
I'm with you Effective (although AT MAX crashes are more a danger to themselves than anything else). It was even fun defending Atar against two different factions. But the fun stopped when it was clear that there was no Red kills Blue or Blue kills Red spam going on. I would have been content with defending Atar until we got kicked off by Brewko. The fact of the matter is that the NC and TR downright colluded to rob any fun from a helpless VS.

We lost the event when we lost Jamshid. Without tech or any way to pull it, and with a single base, it would have been impossible to take anything without losing our last base. Whatever, we got slammed, OK. Attacking the generator is a lame but effective tactic. But intentionally teaming up because of idiots who thought the VS cheated, and destroying any fun that could have been had, now that is in poor taste.

Landtank
2012-07-07, 06:48 PM
I was more pissed over the fact that the TR had 42%, NC had 29%, and VS had 29% for a decent chunk of time, then it started to even out and the NC started wooping ass. I left right after Yazata fell to the TR though.

Bravix
2012-07-07, 06:51 PM
I was more pissed over the fact that the TR had 42%, NC had 29%, and VS had 29% for a decent chunk of time, then it started to even out and the NC started wooping ass. I left right after Yazata fell to the TR though.

That was quite ridiculous. It wasn't resolved for a long time either. I don't think anyone ever got up to the pop TR had after that.

jangio
2012-07-07, 06:56 PM
Complain about the double team all you want, but that's what you get when you don't play by the rules... if you're getting transported to a base, then walk over to your starting point.

ringring
2012-07-07, 06:57 PM
well aware of it. they should have been out along time ago. eitherway the event was bs.

and to tell ya the truth it would have been better if he was fair about it. all he did was pissoff the tr and the nc and that got the vs booted.

favoritism dosnt always work out so well.

Not only that, but VS did not start in a tech ...

I'm with you Effective (although AT MAX crashes are more a danger to themselves than anything else). It was even fun defending Atar against two different factions. But the fun stopped when it was clear that there was no Red kills Blue or Blue kills Red spam going on. I would have been content with defending Atar until we got kicked off by Brewko. The fact of the matter is that the NC and TR downright colluded to rob any fun from a helpless VS.

We lost the event when we lost Jamshid. Without tech or any way to pull it, and with a single base, it would have been impossible to take anything without losing our last base. Whatever, we got slammed, OK. Attacking the generator is a lame but effective tactic. But intentionally teaming up because of idiots who thought the VS cheated, and destroying any fun that could have been had, now that is in poor taste.

There was no overt collusion ... I was there and there was nothing on command chat .... if it happened it happened because it was the sensible thing to do. But there was no 'agreement'.

Snorf
2012-07-07, 07:00 PM
Complain about the double team all you want, but that's what you get when you don't play by the rules... if you're getting transported to a base, then walk over to your starting point.

We told Brewko that we had people being summoned to Atar. He was too busy getting people onto Oshur to deal with it. Hell, they were still summoning in VS after it started.

If this really is the reason TR and NC double teamed us, then it's rather sad. Or just confirms that everyone know the VS are superior.

A 3 min head start in a 5 hour event isn't really something to get upset about.

Aldman
2012-07-07, 07:00 PM
Well, the server has crashed, so not much left to complain about now :D

Snipefrag
2012-07-07, 07:01 PM
Why when an empire gets double teamed does it always have to be some secret alliance? It was our strategy to leave the NC alone and focus on getting VS off cont.. In a game with three sides that's a legitimate tactic, we positioned ourselves on the cont to make this possible.

Its called tactics.

PrISM
2012-07-07, 07:01 PM
The server crashed; SOE won the event.

The Kush
2012-07-07, 07:02 PM
dont tend to rage much, but im gonna speak my mind about this.

rules were most bases after 6 hrs wins, all bases were neutral to start.

so the event starts out like this, tr in a warpgate ,nc in a warpgate , and vs in a tech base???????? yup they started in a tech base. anyway we run for tech and a inerlink right off the bat. before we got past the first towers vs were showing up in mossies and started mowing us down. never the less we pushed on and so did the nc. we got a good foot in the door and started with 4 bases, nc had 3 and vs had 3. we push the vs back to 1 base with the nc. then we drop their gen and they have no spawn point... vs are gone right??????? no. Brewko gets in csr chat and says vs send me a tell if u want on old oshur. back up to full pop in no time. tr and nc push on. we get them pinned into their last bases and we are farming away waiting for the ntu to drain. it was down to 40% when brewko yet again lends a helping hand. 40% to 90% in a blink of a eye.

love to take part in community events,but the next time he has one im gonna tell him to shove that event up his purple butt.

maybe ill be the only one offended by this, im very competitive.

Couldn't agree more, it's sad when people cheat, get what they have coming, and then the gms fuck it up

Snowfake
2012-07-07, 07:04 PM
What did you think would happen if you guys were in mossies mowing us down before we were half way out the warpgate!

Nephilimuk
2012-07-07, 07:05 PM
I would like to say thank you for running the event Brewko, I really enjoyed it.

To the posters and haters, please think before you type - people went out of their way to make this happen, that needs to be commended not condoned

Marsgrim
2012-07-07, 07:05 PM
The three empires started on even grounds, even if the quickness of the first hacks on all sides surprised me. The pop was 33% for the first hour, then as it became clear that VS was getting doubleteamed, the VS pop dropped. I think that was the cause for the late invitations to some VS, if there really were any.

Thanks to the devs and all who organized this event, and for the nice "loser commendation" :p

Afraid this isn't true, VS started at Atar and hacked it right away, as well as hacking out mozzies to go farm TR and NC who had to run from a WG to the nearest base. Check the other thread with the pic of the starting map.

Further to that, a Drop ship centre with constantly filling NTU is the easiest thing to defend in a 3way. NC and TR were fighting in CY, TR managed to sneak a router pad in which you should have defended.

BlueSkies
2012-07-07, 07:08 PM
There was no agreement between NC and TR. But when you start the event with 4 hacks running when NC have 1 and TR have 0, chances are you become the target.

Doesn't matter though. Crappy network/server pwned all 3 empires.

Bravix
2012-07-07, 07:18 PM
Afraid this isn't true, VS started at Atar and hacked it right away, as well as hacking out mozzies to go farm TR and NC who had to run from a WG to the nearest base. Check the other thread with the pic of the starting map.

Further to that, a Drop ship centre with constantly filling NTU is the easiest thing to defend in a 3way. NC and TR were fighting in CY, TR managed to sneak a router pad in which you should have defended.

Just curious there bud, where was that router pad placed? I don't suppose it was placed inside the boxes was it?

Honestly curious. I didn't see it anywhere down there, though I could have missed it. If it was 'inappropriately' placed, I don't care too much since every empire seems to have some dick who's willing to do it, but I certainly wouldn't be bragging about winning that way.

Rumblepit
2012-07-07, 07:32 PM
lol well the vs got spanked because they got help from brewko, many times... like i said if it was fair then the tr and the nc wouldnt have whipped that ass so hard.......

and i am very grateful that brewko went out of his way on a weekend to do this event... dont get me wrong. but if i knew it was a vs event i would have let someone else have my spot.


fyi the tr pop got high because we took out the atar gen and the vs had no spawn point.they got the boot and tr came in.

USCNACHO
2012-07-07, 07:34 PM
even if the server didnt go down the TR would have won they played well and instead of crying about it just try harder in the next event if you haven't seen , the TR have won almost every event so think about that

GTGD
2012-07-07, 07:37 PM
There was no agreement between NC and TR. But when you start the event with 4 hacks running when NC have 1 and TR have 0, chances are you become the target.

Doesn't matter though. Crappy network/server pwned all 3 empires.

"Maybe if we deny the collaboration enough, it will make it true! While we're at it, let's blame the server because we got farmed hardcore."

You guys did succeed in moving the map though, it got a lot redder!

Snorf
2012-07-07, 07:38 PM
Brewko only "helped" us once. But as I'm finding out all empires had issues with summoning into bases. The VS were summoned in last and told to stay where we were or else we'd get booted back to sanc. We wouldn't even have had time to run to the wg. I got summoned in and less than a minute later the even started. And other than those that grabbed aircav to mow down NC and TR running to their bases, I don't see why a 5 min head start would make you guys so butthurt.

We weren't "helped" with the NTU's because nanites were irrelevant in this event. So if you were waiting on the base to drain then you had no idea what was going on.

Overall, it was a fun event. I'm glad we were able to go back to Oshur one last time.

p0intman
2012-07-07, 07:38 PM
"Maybe if we deny the collaboration enough, it will make it true! While we're at it, let's blame the server because we got farmed hardcore."

You guys did succeed in moving the map though, it got a lot redder!
legit, there was no real communication. Think of it like this: The VS pissed both empires off. We didn't need to communicate, we both wanted the same thing.
Brewko only "helped" us once. But as I'm finding out all empires had issues with summoning into bases. The VS were summoned in last and told to stay where we were or else we'd get booted back to sanc. We wouldn't even have had time to run to the wg. I got summoned in and less than a minute later the even started. And other than those that grabbed aircav to mow down NC and TR running to their bases, I don't see why a 5 min head start would make you guys so butthurt.

We weren't "helped" with the NTU's because nanites were irrelevant in this event. So if you were waiting on the base to drain then you had no idea what was going on.

Overall, it was a fun event. I'm glad we were able to go back to Oshur one last time.
if thats the case, ohwell. still you got a headstart enough to piss everyone off.

doesn't change that it was enough to anger everyone else.

Accuser
2012-07-07, 08:38 PM
I think the obvious lesson of this is to never organize community events, since everyone will just get pissed (especially the winners, apparently).

WiteBeam
2012-07-07, 08:47 PM
I just wish the server hadn't gone out like it did toward the end. TR had a good lead on us, but by the time the server came back up, it was a lost battle because NC were almost out popped by triple TR.
And our last base went green at the end. What the hell CSRs?

Nice way to kick off beta. Lol

seqqura
2012-07-07, 09:10 PM
for the record for the person who asked: VS were about 75 under pop lock at 25 mins, and 25 under at 40 mins. I left soon after so no idea later on.

Fate
2012-07-08, 12:34 AM
dont tend to rage much, but im gonna speak my mind about this.

rules were most bases after 6 hrs wins, all bases were neutral to start.

so the event starts out like this, tr in a warpgate ,nc in a warpgate , and vs in a tech base???????? yup they started in a tech base. anyway we run for tech and a inerlink right off the bat. before we got past the first towers vs were showing up in mossies and started mowing us down. never the less we pushed on and so did the nc. we got a good foot in the door and started with 4 bases, nc had 3 and vs had 3. we push the vs back to 1 base with the nc. then we drop their gen and they have no spawn point... vs are gone right??????? no. Brewko gets in csr chat and says vs send me a tell if u want on old oshur. back up to full pop in no time. tr and nc push on. we get them pinned into their last bases and we are farming away waiting for the ntu to drain. it was down to 40% when brewko yet again lends a helping hand. 40% to 90% in a blink of a eye.

love to take part in community events,but the next time he has one im gonna tell him to shove that event up his purple butt.

maybe ill be the only one offended by this, im very competitive.

The event duration was planned for 5-6 hours. Not everyone who wanted to participate could make it at the designated start time, but there are a lot of people who want a chance to go to Old Oshur one last time. He was trying to give those people a chance to go. In the end the TR "won" the event. But really, why do you even care at all about a lame contest in a dead game?

I'll be honest, it makes sense to push the VS off first. Neither the TR or the NC can pull so many maxs in such a short amount of time. You may not have figured this out, but fighting constantly against a flood of maxs IS NOT FUN.

There are the same amount of MAX's on all three empires since BR40. You're just being an idiot. It's good to know not everything changes.

Graywolves
2012-07-08, 12:57 AM
I waited in warpgate. Saw NC hack in progress. Saw hack removed and Brewko anounced that anyone outside of the warpgates would forfeit their slot in the event.

You weren't supposed to have any vehicles in the warpgate so when the earthquake happened you had to run to your bases for the hack.

VS had 4 bases hacked before I even reached one. So I recalled and played with the rest of my outfit on normal Planetside, had lots of fun.

BigBossMonkey
2012-07-08, 03:04 AM
I waited in warpgate. Saw NC hack in progress. Saw hack removed and Brewko anounced that anyone outside of the warpgates would forfeit their slot in the event.

You weren't supposed to have any vehicles in the warpgate so when the earthquake happened you had to run to your bases for the hack.

VS had 4 bases hacked before I even reached one. So I recalled and played with the rest of my outfit on normal Planetside, had lots of fun.

Yup. I was in a MAX (the quickest way to get around with a vehicle)

By the time I got to the first base, that tech in the north, the VS had 4 hacks and the NC had two.

The TR were the only empire to follow the rules.

Kouza
2012-07-08, 03:14 AM
Were forgetting the Brewko Mentallity Rumblepit, clearly you do not remember the Desolation Event the TR won... Went like this:

1. TR owns oshur.
2. Brewko Starts Wild West Event on Desolation making all bases neutral.
3. TR win Desolation in 14 minutes.
4. Brewko Restarts the Wild West event on Desolation
5. TR win Desolation after a long grueling GRIND.
6. Brewko as a reward to the TR make desolation neutral, and proclaim that all empires have a good time fighting for it.
7. TR pop drops from 33% to 19%

Jamini
2012-07-08, 03:23 AM
LMAO you also have the Jackhammer. We wouldn't need so many MAXs if we had that.

Instead we have the orb gun (It doesn't really lash, so you can't call it the Lasher. If anything, it gives people around it a static shock).

You do have a point about the JH. Except for the part where it's crap outside of stairwells. Personally, I don't even bother with HA unless I have a locker full of MCGs. The Guass is just flat-out more useful in most situations.

On the flipside, I'm a huge fan of the pulsar's quick AV mode. :)